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@Recursoinominado sorry, I still have to work a job enlightenment or not. How did I do it? Honesty, I didn’t do anything per se, I just became aware of what reality is. I have listened to hours, days, maybe months of no dual teachers and had glimpses here and there, predominantly on psychedelics but never “got it”. I kept waiting for a “shift” or permanent “enlightenment” but nothing ever stuck, until it just clicked that I am both the awakened and dreamer and I am now aware that I make the distinctions. so what is enlightenment? It’s this, it’s already this. Whoever reads this is enlightenment and is literally God. Because God is completely total and no dual, the only way it can create other is through thought and appearance, qualia, or mind. Reality is so total that it HAS to create an illusion of something outside of itself via thought, sensation, and emotion to trick itself that it’s not Reality. I’m really trying not to parrot Leo here, but what he says is true from the Absolute perspective and I can’t think of a better choice of words, lol. so to answer your question, in my opinion there is nothing you can do to become enlightened, because you’re already eternal awareness, AKA enlightenment, pretending that you’re not to create a sense of something outside of yourself. Just become aware that you are making the distinctions, and be willing to give up the delusions. Easy said than done I know, and it has taken me 6 years of “seeking” to realise I was what I am seeking, if that makes sense. Fuck it’s funny when you realise you were only ever seeking yourself. There is nothing outside of your perspective, contemplate how this might be true.

Regarding point 2, actually you’d be surprised. Many of the people in these communities are really conscious, they just don’t fit into societies psychosis so chose to live in Stage Green communities. And why not? the pace of life is slow, everyone is happy, fit, beautiful, and has some baseline knowledge of spirituality. You can meet some very developed people and even awakened people. I consider myself a hippie in many ways, but not like a lazy hippy, I’m super focused and disciplined. Insanely dedicated and intelligent, but my lifestyle is in sync with nature, dance, sex, and relaxation and God of course. If that makes me a hippy then sign me up I’m happy as fuck! 4- I scored an amazing job in tech out of college and spent 6 years only saving and investing. Eventually I realized I had enough to live freely in certain parts of the world. So I wake up when I want and dedicate my time to spirituality. It’s fucking amazing. my advice: save and invest like nobody’s business. 5- totally agree. I think it’s a good rule in general in life to actually not depend on anyone for anything. The second you depend on people, they own you in a way

I could take an experience of a simple headache and turn it into a fantastical story where I'm either a hero, a victim, etc. When having a headache: "I feel my kundalini awakening, it's real and it's my baseline, I feel it, it is prior to my brain, my body resists the experience, I can't do anything about it. But what does it mean? My third chakra has awakened. It feels like my sense of self is concentrated on the back of my head and might dissolve in one and a half weeks. The sensation is caused by my intense meditation session that I did yesterday, and because I ran naked on the street on a cold winter evening. My self is expanding into infinity, and I know it's real because it's there, I feel it, even though there's pain. My body loves the energy that's being rushing to my brain, and it seems to sustain it. Feels good." And I might well experience that as real. Thanks to the cosmology that I hold, I turned a headache into a wonderful kundalini awakening. Now I'm this higher being, able to expand my self thanks to that remarkable realization. And it was just a headache to begin with.

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You helped me, so now I want to help you. it doesn’t matter how Leo thinks the universe was created. Nothing he says matters at all. Debating about it to make ourselves look more awakened than someone else is what the ego wants, anything to stay relevant. After all, we’re talking about God, how could this possibly be the work of the Devil? *wink wink* If finding the ultimate Truth is the one and only thing we want, we will sit still in a room with no distractions, for as long as possible, as consistently as possible. You will be more willing to do this when you realize that this Life and everything in it will never fulfill you. It is only a persistent, ingenious distraction from what you are really supposed to do. After you’ve accepted and sat through a significant amount of suffering (approx 3 days worth of stillness), your journey begins and everything will be explained to you in perfect order. Everything Leo knows, you will begin to understand for yourself as it relates to your life, not just as a cool concept. This is helpful as a reference point, but you realize you never needed him to tell you anything anyways, because it’s all being disclosed to you as long as you’re willing to sit down and be a student.

@Vrubel @Nivsch Agreed theirs plenty wrong within Arab societies and they need to do their own work. The external environment amplifies this. But it’s difficult to know whether a certain group is truly developed or ‘civilised’ or that certain groups are just wealthy enough to pretend to be. If Americans were put in Gazans situation would it be any different. Even Ehud Barack said “If I was [a Palestinian] at the right age, at some stage I would have entered one of the terror organizations and have fought from there.” Even if they are less developed and it’s not entirely Israel’s fault for how they are - it doesn’t justify or make Israel’s actions right. Stages of development doesn’t make one group or person a different species that are inherently evil. It just means one group has developed more but those elements of other stages are still there lying dormant. Culture evolves faster than biology, and whilst we are in biological form we are chained or grounded by biology. Stage yellow and turquoise sages are still susceptible to biological reality as Osho was to his ill health despite being awakened or ‘developed.’ Developed groups still have the ancient instincts we finger point less developed groups for acting upon, and the more developed groups can just pull at those instincts in different ways. You can be a stage green eco terrorist for example - growth can also be a cancer. Is a broken orange/green society still better than a healthy red/blue society? Possibly, but a more developed society has more powerful tools with more leverage and potential for destruction which could make them more of a threat. A stage red primitive tribe might be sick and dangerous but their destruction will only be localised to their village surroundings whilst a stage orange techno-capitalist superpower though having more inclusive and broader values including democracy and science can inflict a negative global impact if this stage becomes sick, pathological or unhealthily manifest. A highly developed society generally has more powerful instruments / tools, but if the individuals of that society become unhealthy their potential for chaos is greater. The individual and wielder of the tool needs to be just as developed - a parrallel match because the stakes are higher. A sick red society may only cause ripples on the world stage due to their limited tools of power but a developed orange society with more powerful tools will cause a tsunami of damage. We can use spiral dynamics to make sense of the world or make our sense of self more righteous in relationship to others lower on the spiral. In the past it was whoever can defend the land keeps it - rights to land are based on the might of those fighting for it. With a national consciousness spreading and bordering up of the world including the Arab regions this would have eventually trickled to the Palestinians, they just didn’t get there in time for the nationalising party which kicked off in the mid to late 1940’s. Obviously nationalising can be taken to an extreme where every group, tribe or sect want their own nation - I’m not sure where that starts and stops and what a healthy amount is to be honest. For example now even Barcelona want to separate from Spain. If this Israel Palestine scenario was happening in the past people wouldn’t make such a deal of it as the unspoken word then was whoever had the might had the right but today we live in a post expansionist world - at least when it comes to geography. Powers now expand through commerce and capital. The board game of geography is replaced with the board rooms of corporations - but that’s another conversation.

I have a better argument. If you claim that Absolute Infinity exists, then it follows that Absolute Death or Nothingness exists. You saying death doesn’t exist is like saying that infinity exists but Zero doesn’t. We are talking about things that we can never prove. We cannot prove that things go on infinitely. But yet, we can intuitively know that infinity exists. For instance, numbers go on forever but I cannot prove that. Apply your same logic to the topic of death. You all are adamant that Infinity exists but are in denial that death exists. What if Absolute Awakening/Infinity is Absolute Death? That is why I say “Absolute Awakening” is an illusion because you don’t get that until you experience Absolute Death. I mean physical death. If you are still human, then you have not fully awakened is what I have claimed because being human is a dream and comes with certain inherent limitations in understanding.

Everything and everyone that exists and is knowable is part of your consciousness and your limited identity is an interpretation. That's just rational but I also awakened to it. However, that still doesn't answer if this singularity of experience is all there is, or just all it can know. Because it might be a holon and emergent property of an unknowable external reality that it is an independent part of, with infinite other singularities like it that can only be known once they merge. But maybe it is knowable, maybe our external reality is exactly what it is and our infinitely constructed experience of it is all we can be. Either way, we still have to explain consciousness in and of itself and it's hard for me to visualize it evolving out of dead matter by pure virtue of complexity. So then it's fundamental, but if it can exist independently, where does it come from, does it just spawn into existence? An external reality can be intuited even if it is always a projection, it might exist regardless. Our external reality might just be real and our evolutionarily evolved form tries to grasp it and psychedelics show how it interprets the outside stimuli from the inside through its evolved structure. So maybe consciousness is an emergent property and we only have to recreate the same complexity? But consciousness is so radically different and distinct, the self-awareness as an experience in and of itself, not just as a reaction but the conscious perception of the reaction too and not just that as a deterministically concluded motion of atoms that expresses itself in a biological megastructure as a behavior and a tendency for internal rewiring but the act and existence of consciousness in and of itself, it really seems there's nothing more fundamental than it and yet we can manipulate it externally and maybe discover some of its mechanics, it shrinks when less neurons fire and grows when more regions fire interconnectedly, but maybe that's just god playing the game of acting out a biological automaton's reaction just like kids interpret emotions into objects. This is definitely going to be the topic of my next psychedelic contemplation.

Yes we all are, the difference is awakened people consciously choose their dillusions. It's called lucid living (instead of lucid dreaming).

I reached a profound direct circuit to a spiritual tap that's indescribable for the most part. Everything became clear and each new day something equally surprising takes place. Meditation and prayer to a higher power of my understanding, is bittersweet as enlightened experiences have become front and center and uncontrollable. I surrender to the process of becoming aware of my surroundings seeing growth and corruption, creation and destruction, quantum physics and a fourth dimensional existence. God of my understanding began revealing outstanding diaplays of beauty and atrocity. Today I accept the moments of Knowing. I am able to see, hear and feel through senses that are not mine. God whispers through art, books, lyrics, poems, photos, movies, and indirect conversations to me. I am different. I am the awkwardly awakened yet confidence seeking Universal Solar Drop on Earth having no idea what I will see or hear each day, and completely obedient to this new found surge of power that created all I am. I call it God. In meditation I can spin incomprehensibly fast that it feels and appears like stillness. I see and am a bluish hue I can't place a color name on and hear a pitch so high it's silent. I have gone as God to homes to pray for those my human self resents. This last weekend I was watching myself walking into a curly spiral pedal in deep outdoor meditation. It's awesome and magnificent. God says, "I am you and you are me, you are them and they are you. Move, see, hear and be me as you." It is quite an awakening to deal with that I don't understand. I am no one special to the world. Leadership abilities, yes. I can and do lead in my little circle of life... The world is a big task I dont see taking on nor is the world really that welcoming or open minded for God's True Seed being born here again, especially as a female... I have been skimming different religions seeing the prophecy of me in them, however I am not prompted to enter or claim any denomination as my own. Rejection, isolation and despair would sink in at the first sign of doubt from others, it's a horrible feeling for me. I never asked for this Sight and certainly don't seek any fire from others as I express it anonymously. I found God in my own astronomical suffering and was relieved when I humbly asked to be. Zero religious influence, though it seems some religions have been waiting for me. Pareidolia is my reality. I hear and see God where others do not and experience visuals and sounds that are not taken in through my own eyes or ears. I am aware of sufferings around me others are not. Gifts from the universe find me daily now... A golden eagle's secondary left wing feather was lying on the ground the day of my birthday this year. Jehovahs Witnesses stopped by randomly for the first time to tell me about a Heavenly Mother and never returned... A bishop from LDS told me a South American would rise as the Savior after I asked about my experience, it frightened me and I haven't gone back yet for more clarity. I happen to be native Guarani. Last month, an Indian Hindi teacher came into my town and I scored a work trade to hear Ramji.... I realized Moksha is my present state. In February I asked google, "Phi at 27 years old" and an article about "me" popped up... I still can barely do basic mathematics though became completely motivated to read Einstein's and Telsa's work... dive into science and physics, trace history and piece together foreign languages. Stumbled upon internet programming instructions and following it was pretty simple. Began seeing children and adults trafficked, preditors in plain sight and uncovering modern day slavery. To be clear, I never ever asked for this Understanding and at times wish I could give it back, some days the "seeing" and "hearing" are unbearable and all I can do is hit my knees and pray. Please, this is only my experience for personal healing from life traumas.... if you wouldn't post negativity in response I'd appreciate it. There are such few safe places I get to share this enlightenment. Kindly, Solar Drop

They didn’t realize no-self. They created an identity out of no-self. If what you are saying is true, then I am already enlightened/awakened. But I do not consider myself to be awakened because my lifestyle is not centered around that understanding. Understanding is more than just an insight, it is an entire change to your life. If you don’t live from your own wisdom, then I would suggest that you don’t have it.

What do you mean? Biology, math, atoms, the number 6 are concepts. Not Reality. How can I have a RAW experience of 'biology'? That is a layer upon Reality. mmm.. that's what I was thinking today and yesterday. What's the difference between awakening and enlightenment? Is enlightenment a permanent awakening? Is that even possible? Imagine Leo talking to a hot girl in the club. 'He' is not the Infinite Field of Consciousness at that moment hahah He is just a man talking to a woman, trying to get his needs met. I think is impossible. I still don't grab this. I was asking that because I feel I can go deeper, and wanted feedback of people who had gone deeper. I realize I can have an awakening, but not being deep or broad enough (for example, I didn't awakened to Infinite Love) I always hated when people 'parrot' those terms. But now I got it. I know what they point to. Before it felt like if I was a virgin and people talked about 'cumming' 'orgasm'. They were just words without substance. Now is like I lost my virginity and I know by direct experience what they are pointing at. But yeah, I realize those are just concepts. A way to communicate between humans

Dude, you'd be surprised. Just look up one of the 100000 solipsism threads on this forum and see for yourself how attached self-proclaimed "awakened" people are to their precious spiritual concepts, lol. You can't blame them too much though. The ego is literally scared to death when it feels that its identity is being threatened; and so most people immediately create a new "spiritual" identity for themselves as soon as they had their peek behind the curtain. Like I said, it takes time for the realization to really sink in and to find the courage to finally let go of all conceptual fantasies. That's very good. As long as you are aware of this, you are on the right track. You don't necessarily need to get 'rid' of the story... as long as you are a human being, there will be certain conceptual constructs within your awareness. Just recognize them for what they are: Stories. Nothing more, nothing less. Hehehe... exactly. God is one hell of a trickster!

Go do inner work, everyone, including myself. Go do inner work. It's so annoying, these words like awakening and who is more awakened and all that crap, that i'm tired and very very bored of all that talk. The frickin house is on fire, but you are still trying to fight over meaningless bullshit instead of being honest with yourself and embrace your own fears and worries and shit like that. You turn this into another soap opera, really, where instead of fighting over a girl or money, you fight about who is more awake, or who is really awake and whose awakening is fake, and shit like that.

He can't help it anymore than a racist can't stop being a racist, until they do. It's not his fault. And I believe honestly he will do it because he will get sick and tired of wondering. Notice he can't stop thinking about it? It means he will eventually do it and then he will understand that I am just HIM telling to the stop the bullshit. I am no different than the voice inside his head that he thinks is him. No YOU do that because I AM YOU. And ask yourself why I have properly predicted you so well? When you claimed you awakened conceptually to Absolute Solipsism I told you that you couldn't and you argued with me. I was right. When I said you weren't really hear for awakening but something else you argued with me and then you finally admitted you just wanted to go get laid. Again I was right. When you said you would leave Actualized.Org I said you wouldn't. Again I was right. Have you not figured out that I got you figured out? Why? I wonder why I can predict your every move? Maybe just maybe I am YOU!!!! Just like I KNOW you will eventually take the plunge...because you are tired of wondering....you just use all of us here to give you the confidence and talk you out of your shit.

This I agree with, but I honestly believe that when you say Leo cheated I don't think he did. Psychedelics just reveal the veil that is there, but I recognized from direct experience that the ability to penetrate that veil doesn't come from the psychedelic but the type of mind that has been constructed throughout one's life. I've said it before. If you design your life based on the truth, then that is what you will find, if you design your life on lies, manipulation, and control then that is what you will find. I mean when I realized you could awaken to God on freaking alcohol it was THEN that I realized that if someone is not awakened they don't want it.

My 3 year old niece awakened me to that when I kept putting her to bed and she kept coming downstairs. She refused to go to sleep if I wasn't around. So I had to submit and let her fall asleep in my arms. Toddlers are little tyrants running around. And they always win...because they are so small. Their vulnerability is their strength. So funny how paradoxical life is. Adults get the opposite treatment. We are like...okay you are an adult "kid gloves off!!!"

To add: I am struggling with the humble and arrogant are both the same. I did just apply AS (Absolute Solipsism) to it and they cancel each other out as the same. Like what you say they do. I get it, it’s duality, light dark, and it’s all one. But that human identity is so ingrained in my self that I’m struggling (I will work through it though, I know) with it. And also with how can someone be in a fully awakened state and still be jealous to a high level, not just in thoughts, but to verbalise it out loud? If there is only love shouldn't that cancel them out? I’m just thinking out loud, I will work through it the next few days most likely. 😀

Name: Asia Prestigiacomo Age: 17 Gender: Female Location: Rome, Italy Occupation: student Marital Status: married Kids: No Hobbies: enlightement, meditation, reading, knitting, sewing with the machine, vegetable garden, animals, cooking, hiking. (Apologies for my elementary english because i'm a learner) My journey has started 3 years ago when i became a serious activist for enviromental issues. I've started to become an authentical zero waster, collecting all my waste in a glass jar, i've also started to raise people's awareness at school, to friends, teachers and family. In 3rd year of lyceum of arts, i met my best friend Valentina, a seriously awakened girl, who suddently became my spiritual guru. Thanks to her i learned about indian spirituality, karma and reincarnation, i became a vegetarian and after a vegan. I read a lot of books of Paramahansa Yogananda and Shirla Prabupada (Hare Krishna founder). My changes with religions were: raised as a christian child, atheist in middle school, agnostic in the beginning of lyceum, Hare Krishna and now spiritual. About 8 months ago everything started to loose meaning and now i am dealing with this problem, because i don't find much more satisfactiom in everyday life and passions, and my mind has an hard time accepting it. Last month Valentina has suggested me actualized.org and i started to watch Leo's lessons. I always say that when i listen to a lesson and it really vibes into me, i'm just listening to words that explains perfectly something that i already knew. I can say that most Leo's videos has caused this situation of "already knew" inside me. Expecially the ones about pratical life, and also something about god, karma and spirituality. Personal challenges I've overcome: - finding my man - eating healty and natural medicine - critical thinking - overcome 'having children to make sense of my life' What I'm working on now: - spiritual awakening - looking for the meaning and the truth - accepting deseases and other's death (- having my own vegetarian farm and vegetable garden to live in an indipendent way)

"Solipsism" only means anything related to spiritual awakening to members of Leo's cult. Watts and McKenna were partly awakened, but not anatta awakened.

Okay so I've been meditating for a couple years but I didn't really know what I was doing until a couple weeks ago. And WOWWWW. Seriously how do most people not know about this? My first glimpse of enlightenment was about a month ago and I was doing neti neti whilst high on weed and man that was some crazy shit. It felt really alien. I suddenly realised that there is no experiencer and all there is and ever was is experience. And yeah this felt really really alien. I felt like I just discovered orgasms for the first time hahaha. And now when I meditate I gradually gain more minfulness and thoughts start to fade into noise and everything becomes 'noise' ( neutral and there isn't anything that is more significant than any other thing ) and once that happens I feel like a key has just been taken out of the lock. And I'm not attached to my thoughts, I'm not convinced that I am my thoughts, or my sight or my senstations anymore and not in that problem solving mode. It's fucking beautiful and so alien at the same time. I often feel a wave of energy run through me as this happens like a vibration. that just coarses through me and I'm suddenly non attached to anything. Then this fades and I'm attached to thoughts again. And then I notice I'm talking to myself in my head about how enlightened I am lmao. And then I realise this is ego. And I'm back in square one. And I cannot go more than 20 minutes without an uncontrollable urge to move and open my eyes. Also when I opened my eyes after my most recent meditation everything was as if I have never seen it before, like I had new eyes or I was just born. and it gradually fades into my regular everyday state. I also experience mild closed eye visuals whilst this is happening and a ringing in my ears. But for the most part it feels like I've fallen out of my thoughts. Anyone else experience anythign similar? Was that falling out of thoughts the void? And if so how can I make it last and not attach myself to the ego? EDIT: Also I'm noticing how because I'm not in that state anymore I cannot really grasp what that's like. Is this falling out of thoughts thing of any significance? Am I going crazy? Is this just the ego playing tricks and deluding itself into believing it's enlightened? EDIT: I also feel weird presences or like someone is watching me whilst meditating but that fades too as i focus on my breath. I also see different colours as this state comes on and it looks a lot like the northern lights. EDIT: I know this is the third edit lmao but I'm also noticing how whenever this state comes on it's like my mind doesnt want me to see it. it diverts my attention. This is some freaky shit maaaan And I get it now how when leo said its like a scratch on the top of your head turns into finding a zip then slowly unzipping yourself from yourself. EDIT: I don't know if this is psychosis coming on or if it was enlightenment. It feels pretty good. EDIT: My hands feel like just hands and not like i own them ownership is a delusion. What the fuck is happening? Am I delusional and just imagining I'm enlightened? if anyone knows then pls tell me what is happening. Should I ask a psychiatrist if I'm sane? EDIT: So my regular state where im attached to thoughts is literally insane because everything is fundamentally neutral and just noise and believing that it's something more is craziness. And that means everyone else is insane too. But I know what sane is now. what the fuck EDIT: How do I know this is not my mind playing tricks on me making me believe I've experienced enlightenment? When really I'm just imagining it EDIT: I feel pretty regular now and I cannot really understand it unless im in that state. I cannot unsee this though :DD i feel exactly the same as before I meditated today but really really aware EDIT: I have no idea what the fuck i was talking about anymore lmao wtf EDIT: Now I see that attachments are like lenses on the truth ( pure conciousness or neutrality as i said ) But I'm not in that state anymore I just get it EDIT: Okay so it's the next day and I feel basically the same as before. I think that I try to rationalise what is happening and I begin to believe that my rationalisations are enlightenment. I don't look at it as crazy anymore. more like really sane.

As I watched this video for the third time (my last watch was 6 months ago) I was jumping out of my seat at the insights I received. In our past lifetimes we have already awakened the mind, we have already experienced ourselves as infinite consciousness and we have already become one with God. In this lifetime, we have forgotten our own personal awakening, and so are trying to watch our egos as if it is the enemy for us to once again "transcend it's limitations" in a never-ending spiritual crusade, but this journey is no longer useful in this day of age. Non-dual teachers are being replaced with heart-centered teachers because the divine masculine has woken up, and now it is time for our divine feminine to follow in its line, through opening up our hearts in the most committed, and loving way possible, that each of us deserves to experience and will eventually experience in this lifetime or the next. No longer is the spiritual path about transcending the ego, but instead committing to reality, by letting each one of our thoughts, and emotions be seen, heard and felt as we take up the role of the kind mother or father we never had; or the best friend we always wanted. I recommend for everyone to watch the entire video. It explains everything I have said in unending depth that will save you years on your spiritual path. Years where you avoided your heart by not embracing your thoughts, emotions, and whatever is in front of your face by instead following a non-dual guru who will only lead you to a place you have already mastered. I had to come back to tell you all this, and I hope you can see the simplicity of what I am saying. That in the past we have been told to push everything away, accept what is, and put ourselves under a spiritual microscope to spot the ego and remove it like a parasite. And now, whether you like it or not, we are here to embrace the living shit out of our ego, at the rate you love your heart, at the rate you love whatever arises in your life Many blessings. Here is the most inspiring part of the video, but watch it all if it is possible, thank you for reading:

Yes, I know psychedelics are not for everyone and that he nearly killed himself. Though, that is not the point of my message. I think you're the one who's not listening. I pretty much don't care about convincing you of anything. I just wonder if some people are interested in going much deeper. I personally don't see that being discussed a lot. What I see being discussed a lot is all the reasons why people won't or don't want to go deeper. I've grown out of that. It was a short passage. Right, though I can still wonder if someone else also wants to reach the deepest realizations and understandings one can have (in Leo's sense, not to argue with what is deep). The reason I was asking was mostly to check if I was right to feel one of the few if not the only one doing that. I must say it would have been even more exciting to hear the opposite from one of the person doubting or disregarding all of this the most. But if that never happens, that's okay. I don't care about fighting and arguing. Which explain why I'm not very active on the forum (which doesn't mean I don't read it). I agree with what you're saying, I've had awakenings and breakthroughs. They were so profound that they made me realize that they couldn't be achieved/haven't been achieved through simple practices like meditation. In my opinion, you can't know whether I am right or wrong because because you haven't properly used psychedelics to verify that. And at the same time, you can argue that I can't know either how your awakening is like because I haven't reached a similar kind of awakening … so I guess the discussion is endless. Though the chances are still higher that someone Absolutely awakened (let's say) get even deeper realizations through psychedelics, than it is for me to reach some Absolute/final enlightenment. But who cares in the end. No one is here, but Me, or You. Depends on the objective. If the objective is to reach a complete understanding of all of reality, it would be silly not to recommend them. Though it doesn't mean that they will act properly on everyone, especially on those who don't do the work, as Leo says, of deconstructing their mind. It certainly doesn't mean either that they can only bring positive things. Though I don't think anyone here believes that about them.

Contemplate every word of that series. Don't skip a single word! Selective attention is an ugly beast. - It being hard as fuck is a feature, not a bug. It's normal, and it's how it's supposed to be. It sucks, but more people are going through this shit than you think. Many don't even have the courage to ask for advice like you did. - Women have different problems than men. Leo talks about it in the how to get laid series as well. It's victim mindset. Men have no idea of the struggles women face, and women have no idea of the struggles men face. On average. And I'm no feminist, trust me. I've gone through the Andrew Tate women-hating phase, and it's just a coping mechanism to justify your lack of success. "women are bad, that's why". But it just creates conflict, and makes you a fucking pussy in the eyes of a woman, too. Many of those red-pill influencers understand very well that the weak spots of their audience are. While some of them act from good intentions, there's a conflict of interest between giving just solid advice, vs demonizing women and making them feel like they "awakened you to the truth", given you the "red pill". That way they're viewed by their audience as the savior of the "poor, misunderstood men", and how convenient is that? Oh, great, it's not my fault then. Much less painful this way, right? - Also, people have their own concerns, and don't bother too much with your cringy episodes. When they go home they will spend exactly zero seconds thinking about that episode. It's not easy to internalize this to the point where you act from that perspective, but start to appreciate this. You can likely recall times when others acted weird around you, and you just forgot about it within a week (or more likely, 10 minutes). Of course you can burn some bridges, but many, many times your mind will amplify 100x. - Another great resource I suggest you read is "The way of the superior man" by David Deida. Try to read it from an non-judgmental perspective towards women. Read it as if you were studying the behavior of rats, completely impartial, and just curious. Whenever you make a judgment about women, ask yourself: Do I really KNOW this to judge it? Do I have that much actual experience talking to the opposite sex to know it's true? Could it be that I know jack shit about what goes on in a woman's mind? Did I ever try and behave like a man the way it's described in the book, or did I always live from the perspective of a boy? I still have a shit ton to work to do still, but I'll tell you what made me get closer to an actual solution. Try to deeply think about what I'm about to say. Evaluate it for yourself, don't believe me. Try to recall episodes where this may be true. Actual life scenarios. But it might be bullshit as well, that's why I want you to think critically. There's a ton of stuff in this post, I hope parts don't get lost, it's all very meaningful to me. - First, it really helped to understand how many insecurities women have, and how much the majority of them are less developed than I am (maybe it's an overcompensation from a previous lack of self-esteem), since they never did the amount of personal development work I did. And the same goes for men. You see the average man, and how mediocre his life is. What makes you think women are any different? They're not. Maybe socially they will be ahead of you, but seeing how you might be crushing them in terms of direction in life, knowledge of your mind, and so on can help taking them down from a pedestal that's purely imaginary. Just being in this forum makes it far more likely that you're ahead in development compared to 80% of the women you talk to, if not more. - Second, it was a mind-shattering moment to understand how women attraction works. So fucking counterintuitive. Imagine it like this... Recall times where you felt respect for another man. Respect and admiration. For his courage, integrity, boldness, for being able to do the things you aren't able to. You can FEEL this respect, this admiration. Well, that's sexual attraction for women. This comparison may not be perfect, but it's quite spot on actually. I realized I had zero clue about this, and once I realized it, I finally had a way to understand the female mind for fucking once. NOW it started to click. Now I could see how some guys could pull up girls. Now I could see how they were repelled by my neediness. Imagine this, would you admire a man who follows every order you give him, allows you to abuse him, who asks for you to solve his problems, who has no courage to do anything? IF you wouldn't admire him, that equals to a woman not being attracted. Now imagine a man who you would admire, and magine being a woman and wanting to have sex with him. Also, would you admire a bully, someone who's arrogant? An asshole? Hmm, not really. But you would still respect it more than a pussy dork. But if you wouldn't admire him, it means that's not the way to attracting a woman. A woman who's with an asshole has settled. Because she has flaws too, as I said in point 1. Don't be fooled into thinking treating a woman badly will attract her. It's like saying you admire a bully. You might stick around him rather than being alone, but that's not a leader you'd want.

What i'm saying is there is something like law of attraction or resonance, or whatever you call it, and when we are in a dark state, so to speak, things just don't go well, and we may get more and more lost in our stories and fear and whatever it is. What i'm saying is, if you have fears and worries which you believe cannot be solved, you might try to run away from them and get lost in mental modes, spiritual and philosophical stuff, at least that's the case for me. I'm not saying to you that i'm awake, or i'm superior to you, or things like that. In fact i don't even care about being awake etc, those who wanna play that game of who is more awake etc can keep playing that game. I'm someone who is going through his own shit, and trying to find his resonance or alignment, but it simply doesn't work for me by simply letting go of my issues and pretending like i don't have those issues. Trying to do that is just futile, it is just spiritual bypassing, so to speak. That's why i'm completely tired of all spiritual and philosophical talks, and shit like that. I simply wanna turn within and surrender to where i am, as much as i can. My experience is like me falling from heaven to some sort of a hellish situation, and i am where i am. Maybe i am not that awake, or maybe i am in a situation that is harsher than what most people are going through, i don't know about that. I just am where i am, and i've found that if i simply accept where i am and relax into it, so to speak, more into inner silence, so to speak, it seems like i relax more and feel better. I may not be a very awakened being, or whatever, but i don't really give a fuck about that, to be honest, i'm just trying to find my way, really. I got lost in many philosophies and shit like that, but i just wanna be "woo woo", in a sense, i guess, haha.