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I think you should take a brake from this nonsense spirituality phylosophy, escpesially nonduality ? Include meditation in your routine. It will keep you sober and grounded will rise your awareness, make you more inteligent. This way, through meditation one day you will achieve real recognition of no self instead of this nondual mental masturbation ? self inquiry used by nondual teachers is supposed to be a meditative practice btw not a mental intellectual gymnastics. ?

Lately I’ve been watching and reading Ramesh Balsekar’s teachings and work. For those who don’t know of him, he was a student/disciple of Nisargadatta Maharaj and a renowned teacher of nonduality in India while he was alive. Ramesh’s teachings are very simple to understand but can be difficult to accept. He basically taught that all that exists is the Source/Consciousness/God and that we as human body-mind organisms each have our own unique destiny from the moment of conception. In other words, humans are not the doer, we are simply instruments of the Divine Will. We are each individually programmed to think and act as we do by our environmental conditioning and genetics. Obviously this is not a new teaching, as Ramana Maharshi and many other sages throughout history have said similar things. Even the Bhagavad Gita says that man is not the doer. To me, it seems as though the ego/separate self is founded upon the concept of personal doership. If you get rid of the notion of personal doership, then the ego fades away. This is true from my own experience. What are your thoughts on this?

Hmm difficult to say because we don't know him. But the goal for you must be not to convince him, but to make sure that taking psychedelics is because of his motivation to do so, you know what I mean? I don't mean that you should manipulate him into taking psychedelics, if he doesn't want to, then that's his choice and must be perfectly okay. But if he is interested in religion, philosophy etc. then that's a good thing and you should start from there. You could go about it by asking him whether he has ever wondered how these profound religious ideas came about and how it can be that all kinds of cultures and people all seem to have a notion of a God or something equivalent. And then slowly introduce him to mysticism as the origin of all religion and spirituality. If he isn't already, make him familiar with nonduality. And if he's open-minded to all these things, you can tell him that it is possible to reliably induce states of consciousness which are the origin of all spirituality, religion, mysticism, etc. And that it isn't just talk, but grounded in profound experiences, which can be brought about by the use of substances like LSD or mushrooms (I wouldn't give him 5-Meo). The important thing is to be patient, don't push it on him.

Evil is real of course. But remember-- the divine prophecy foretold that one of Jesus's apostles would betray him and get him killed. So you can think of the nonduality between good and evil through the articulation of this strange loop: did Judas Iscariot have to betray God in order to follow him? Remember though: you are not Judas Iscariot. If anything, you are Jesus. You should strive to be the one forgiving the Romans while you roast on the cross, not the one getting innocent people killed. This philosophy does not grant you permission to do evil yourself. But without evil, there would be no forgiveness. God sees the lotus that grows in the mud and loves both equally because you cannot have one without the other.

No one is saying everything is "One" in exclusion of something else that is not one. Nondual means it's NOT two. Another way to say this is that there's NO exclusion. Nonduality does not exclude duality. I'm not sure how you can have two models, but they seem to appear as two, just like duality seems to appear as numbers. All numbers are based on the integer of "one". Two is just two ones, three is three and so on. No one has been aware of three separate apples sitting on a table and counted them without also seeing the space around them, and being the light they appear as. All illusions have a reality to them, there is no conflict.

What do you mean? There's ultimately no point to anything ofc but you still do find people discussing it. Humans are naturally curious about reality. A teaching of the cardboard cutout type Solipsism, would simply be wrong unless I'm the only non-cutout... Which is possible... But I don't know why it would have to be. Actually there's much to say on the matter. Even though it is possible my mind is all there is, it does not have the ability to manipulate reality completely when I'd expect it would as per a lucid dream... An "unconscious" level of imagination, to me, is already proving some multiplicity. Acknowledging a capital "You" is to me already multiplicity. This is where I think of trees. Some say you are the whole tree, you mean "You" the capital. Or Mind with the capital. That is very different from little you or mind uncapitalized being the entire tree. The limited is an aspect of the unlimited, not vice versa. What in this would negate the possibility of varying perspectives? It is two views of nonduality. I never got the impression that the limited view, for example this sight of my screen, must be all there is. That was never an impression I got.

Love is unconditional & infinite (real). The knowing is what is illusory as love is not two. The knower of anything is illusory, as love is not two. Hence, Nonduality. There isn’t a separate self which knows, has, or understands anything about love. The ‘trap’ isn’t that there isn’t meaning, the ‘trap’ is believing thoughts, or, experiencing thought attachment, and being in denial / insisting you are the separate self which knows stuff about love. Meditation is “the answer” so to speak, because that “knower” is “the separate self”. There isn’t actually a separate self, there are only thoughts that there is, and the believing of, or ‘attachment to’ those thoughts, even though those thoughts all feel discordant. Self Inquiry. SELF INQUIRY This is a meditation technique of enlightenment, i.e. "self realization". By realizing ‘who’ you are, the bonds of suffering are broken. Besides realization, self-inquiry delivers many of the same benefits as other meditation techniques, such as relaxation, enhanced experience of life, greater openness to change, greater creativity, a sense of joy and fulfillment, and so forth. Focus on the feeling of being "me," to the exclusion of all arising thoughts. 1. Sit in any comfortable meditation posture. 2. Allow your mind and body to settle. 3. Let go of any thinking whatsoever. 4. Place your attention on the inner feeling of being "me." 5. If a thought does arise, ask yourself to whom this thought is occurring, as this returns your attention to the feeling of being "me." Continue this for as long as you like. This technique can also be done when going about any other activity. Many people misunderstand the self-inquiry technique to mean that the person should sit and ask themselves the question, "Who am I?" over and over. This is an incorrect understanding of the technique. The questions "Who am I" or "To whom is this thought occurring?" are only used when a thought arises, in order to direct attention back to the feeling of being "me." At other times the mind is held in silence. This practice of turning awareness back upon itself, prior to the ‘I’-thought, is a gentle technique, which bypasses the usual repressive methods of controlling the mind. It is not an exercise in concentration, nor does it aim at suppressing thoughts; it merely invokes awareness of the source from which the mind springs. The method and goal of self-enquiry is to abide in the source of the mind and to be aware of what one really is by withdrawing attention and interest from what one is not. In the early stages effort in the form of redirecting attention from the thoughts to the ‘thinker’ is essential, but once awareness of the ‘I’-feeling has been firmly established, further effort is counter-productive. From then on it is more a process of being than doing, of effortless being rather than an effort to be. If the info here doesn’t cheer ya up, the monster face will. I mean just look at it.

Mysticism is more explicit in eastern religions imo. Although my impression is that actual mystical practitioners are still rare over there, most people follow the rituals, believe in the Gods or Bodhisattvas etc and just want a regular life with money and family. Enlightenment is way off in the future after many reincarnations. But the far east was more tolerant of spiritual diversity, so mystics didn't need to hide away like they did in the west and middle east. Even now, nonduality and mysticism in monotheism is hidden in plain sight, and not really taught in mainstream seminaries. It would be too much of a shock to the churches to admit we're all prophets, christs, the kingdom of heaven is right here and now.

@SelfHelpGuy In a sense you will melt into Love, just like the raindrop melts into the ocean out of which it emerged. But the melting into Love will not be a new state, that you weren't in before. It will simply be the recognition that you are, were, will always be: boundless. And that when "you" die, it will be nothing but the dispelling of the illusory boundaries that define/are "you". You were never separated from Love, because it's impossible to be separated from Love. Because Love is non-separation. Not-Two-ness. Nonduality.

So yesterday evening I experienced, very unexpectedly, the highest state of consciousness I ever reached without psychedelics. It was the climax of an spiritually, erotically and emotionally intense weekend, I'll do my best to recount the events leading up to my samadhi in order to try and perhaps re-create it, maybe some of you can shed some light on how I was unconsciously working with powerful principles. I'll provide some graphic examples for your enjoyment. This got quite long so there's a TL;DR by the bottom. So, first off, I had remained sexually continent, ie not ejaculated, for almost 3 weeks. Then on Friday morning me and my wife did our sadhana morning practice which sometimes leads to sex. We started with sharing our emotions and feelings and planning some weekend activities, did movement / yogic warmup and then had sex in the bed. It was slow and beautiful, after some time I slowly built up to just about my point of no return and filled her with semen for the first time in weeks, she got some kind of emotional release and started to cry, I don't think that ever happened before for us during sex. She said it felt like she released some fear and anxiety. The day proceeded like normal. We hung out with our neighbours and had dinner with them in the evening. When we got home and put our kids to sleep, we smoked weed and improvised around the mantra Satanama for 20 mins or so, it was spectacular. Then she wanted to watch a movie but I was so happy to be out of my weeks of sexual continence I exclaimed that I wanted to cum in her mouth. She was really open for that, even though we don't do that too often, and she started to blow me. I fucked her face quite brutally and exploded in her mouth, it felt amazing. We watched a movie but I fell asleep almost immediately. The day after, we were going to visit a couple we've exchanged partners with three times prior to this and have dinner with them. First we needed to leave our kids at my mom's place. I made up a lie about how me and my wife was going to eat at a tapas-type restaurant, don't know where I got that idea from. When we arrived at the other couple's place, they had prepared tasty tapas-type food for us, a funny coincidence. After eating we again sang the mantra Satanama with them, then we did a tantric practice where one person would lie in the bed while three others simultaneously gave them loving touch with the elemental energies in this sequence: Earth, Water, Air and then Fire. We took turns and got five minutes each. After that, a foursome soon followed. Nothing too tantric about it, just fucking each other, spitroasting, the girls making out and going down on each other and so on. I found it hard to focus 'cause partner exchange is still quite new to me, every time my wife starts moaning and screaming I get very distracted and it's hard for me to focus at being with another woman in those moments. After the other guy came inside my wife he needed some recovery-time, and then he chatted with my wife while I proceeded to fuck the other woman. It was a lot easier and we got quite into it. After a while it made my wife feel uncomfortable and she expressed the need to have me by herself, so we ended our erotic intimate dance. The four of us proceeded to talk together for quite some time, it got late and we took a cab home. My wife was looking really tense and only answered anything I said with 1 word sentences in the cab so I knew something was wrong. When we got home she explained how she felt a lot of insecurity and that it was really painful and she was sure that I didn't care for her as much as for the other woman. It was a bit unexpected since we had been with them 3 times before, and no insecurities had arisen the past two times. The first time, however, almost ruined our life, but we worked through that. I was scared to experience the wrath and suffering from the aftermath after the first time we fucked that couple, but that period taught me many things and I knew how to work through this. I shared my passion for my wife with her and expressed with academy award-winning level delivery how our connection was the highest and most spiritually valuable thing in my life. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't acting, all I'm saying is I expressed it fully, with really strong emotions, trembling voice, tears in between, apologizing for making her feel this way, re-stating my original intention and my full commitment to the expansion of our love. We ended up hugging together and she felt a little better. It was almost 4am. We went to bed and since I was interrupted during the foursome I still hadn't ejaculated and was ready to go. Her pussy was sore but we went with touching ourselves and mixing dirtytalk with me telling her how beautiful and sexy she was and how much I loved her. Then we came together and I exploded all over her chest. The next day, the Sunday, we had a lot of deep talks in the morning about our emotions and things were fairly okay, but fragile. If I'd been clumsy I could've easily gotten into bad territory but it went all right, although she was almost trying to pick a fight a couple of times. I wanted to have sex with my wife in the morning to reconnect, she also kind of wanted it but in the end it didn't happen, we had coffee and cleaned the house instead. Then we picked up our kids who had been staying with grandma during the Saturday night and went home again, and we were then guested by my wife's parents who brought dinner with them to celebrate my mother in law's birthday. It was really tasty-tapas type food, again an interesting coincidence. My wife, her mom and our kids went to the sauna after dinner. Some time had passed and my stomach didn't feel very full so I decided to also go to the sauna. It felt nice to sauna. I usually don't drink much but both Friday and Saturday evening I had had a couple of glasses of wine and beer and that had given me some hangover-anxiety, combined with the emotional toll of having difficult discussions together with my wife. I find that sauna really helps against anxiety. I was horny and still kept having plenty of flashbacks from our night with the other couple so I masturbated and came by myself in the sauna. I then got the idea to fill the bathtub with ice water so I went out of the sauna, cleaned my hands and started filling the bathtub which takes about 7 minutes. I already felt kind of finished with the sauna and it was 70+ degrees celsius so seven more minutes wasn't totally easy. To endure, I started to massage my scalp to have something to focus on. I also started breathing more intentionally, almost like shamanic breathing / wim hof breathing. Deep quick breaths and an intention to relax and let go on the exhale. I did this in the hot sauna and it was very challenging, after a while I decided that the waterline had risen enough in the bathtub and I exited the sauna and went into the water. I stood with my feet in the water, it felt really cold even though I do this once a week, it was especially cold since Sweden has entered an extraordinarily cold period recently and the temperature outside my house affects the water temperature. I started doing what I usually do: sit down in the water, then blocking my nostrils and ears with my fingers and went underwater for about ten seconds. Then I put up my head above the water and relax. I take as relaxed, deep and slow breaths as possible, usually ten followed by dipping my head and then ten more breaths. This time I didn't do it as normal though. As I started breathing I felt WAY more relaxed then I usually do, my breaths were also waay slower than normal. After ten breaths I was so relaxed I didn't want to change what I was doing so I kept breathing, although my breath was now so slow that I almost didn't breathe at all. I've sometimes tried to attain "the breathless state" by doing spiritual energy circulation exercises and focusing at my third eye and pushing the tongue upwards, I can sometimes feel a shift in perception and a lowered breath and lower pulse, but this was on a whole other level. I felt like I was dying, like the water was consuming me, like I was freezing to death, but I was so relaxed and numbed that it felt pleasant. I surrendered to it and my eyes rolled upwards. More and more expansion. A numb tingling feeling in all of my body. Such bliss and expansion. Fear brought me out of it. First it was the fear that I was going to pass out in the bathtub and drown, so I sat up. And as I sat up, I realized that I was in a very unusual state of consciousness. I felt exactly like I do in ALL my psychedelic trips at the stage where I've just remembered that nothing exists / I am all that exists. The terror of insanity and solipsistic nonduality. It was extra frightening since I wasn't prepared at all for it, and it led me to think thoughts such as: "it's forever this time, since it wasn't induced by a psychedelic. FUCK, I'm enlightened for real this time and there's no going back. I can go to my family but they won't be able to comfort me out of this because I know they're an illusion." I stood up in the bathtub and went into the sauna again to recover some warmth. I took great care to move slowly and not fall over, my body felt a bit like a separate thing. My skin was very red from the cold water. I sat down in the sauna but the fear and loneliness wasn't endurable, I strongly felt the need to be close to my wife. I dried myself with a towel and put on a robe and went to her, walking like a partially functioning human. She was reading a bedtime story to our daughter in our bed and I lay down beside them. I was shivering a lot, but I sometimes do ice baths so they didn't think it was too weird. My wife asked me if I didn't want to go to the sauna again to get more warm but I was able to utter that something had happened and that I felt very scared and that I just wanted to be close to her. I slowly warmed up, started to feel like myself again and I was able to go downstairs to say good night to my in laws, take some vitamins, brush my teeth and go to bed. By that point, the fear had left and instead I marveled at what had happened. Somehow I'd reached a really powerful level of consciousness, some kind of energy activation, that I before only got to through psychedelics. More to come. TL;DR: I did sauna+breathing exercises for some time until I was really exhausted, went into icy water, expanded my consciousness WAY more than what normally happens somehow and remembered that nothing exists.

@silene This would be of the former stance I think, which is duality within nonduality? Dependent origination, Dzogchen, the Dao, I've seen quite a few philosophies which acknowledge the duality within nonduality. The opposing stance would be to experience the same thing but see there to only be somethingness. @Nahm It does completely shut down conversation to eradicate terms of duality, it is impossible to share any mystical experience without saying things like I, this, that, X, Y. You can see Leo say "I" smoked 5-MeO for 30 days, or "I" became infinity. It's just a fact you have to use this wording. If a randomer off Google were to read trip reports where things are explained as such, it would be easy to understand, which I think is of utmost importance... 99% of people are never going to smoke DMT etc (I insist on saying "other people"), so any part of the 1% who do decide to, should be incredibly concise and pay the most attention to using the most basic and human wording. I said to imagine the man because that is what triggered this within a trip. Which was that I was watching these jester things then they pointed at me as if to say "don't look here, see what's back there". And it intensified from there. It became such that all of "me" was also some form just like the jesters. Which means the word "I" is a thought and hence form and hence observed, my name is a thought, my emotions are observed, there was literally no me left of me, because me was observed and I was the observer. I is not what you'd think of as the accurate term but I think that's inconsequential... I became pure consciousness and it was nothing, because everything was removed from this so of course if literally every thing is removed, there's just nothing. But nothing could not be without something, so the something must appear to even be able to know the nothing. I am not adding re-interpretations, it's exactly as it happened. But I think the experience could be had where nothingness is there, or there is no nothingness. I've had both in fact, the experience mentioned, and also of the merging of all. I don't fully remember everything.

It's really unfair to use nondual phylosophy to dismiss reincarnation. Reincarnation is like going to sleep and waking up in the morning again. Going to sleep would be equivalent to death, and waking up in the morning would be equivalent to entering a new womb. Just because everything is one and there is no seperate self doesn't disprove the fact that there is such a thing as sleep and waking up in the morning. I'm not saying reincarnation is real or unreal. I'm saying nonduality is really a poor way of disproving reincarnation. Nonduality has nothing to do with this subject at all. Nonduality only points to the absolute truth there is no such thing as death. Because consciouness can't die and was never born. But consciouness also can’t fall asleep and can't wake up. And so? Does that mean sleep doesn't exist? A hardcore nondualist would say sleep doesn't exist because there is no self to fall asleep or to wake up (or smth like that). But from a normal human relative perspective sleep and waking up is very much real phenomena we all experience every day. To use nondual phylosophy to dismiss everything is really unfair. You can say there's no such thing as eating because consciouness doesn't have a stomach. And there is no self so who is eating? You can basicly prove any kind of bullshit with this nondual phylosophy. Nondual phylosophy has it's place and is beautiful but it should not be used in every area of life. Even ramana maharshi the god of advaita and nonduality says there is reincarnation...

@SelfHelpGuy Very much appreciating you as well, and thank you! @Seraphim Nonduality doesn’t specify, as it is without any condition. Human, death, puzzle, pieces, theories, correct, incorrect, etc… and nonduality… all make for ‘two’. No one will ever, or could ever, be ‘correct’ about what happens after they die, because, nonduality = The Truth. Bending the spoon is indeed fruitless & impossible.

@Seraphim It’s not that there is a me which doesn’t know, it’s that all that is, or as a pointing - nonduality, is - very literally, not knowing, or, no thing to know. If you like, eternal notknowingness. Knower, knowing, knowledge, etc, is the illusion of the separate self, the knower of the known, aka knowledge. Nonduality is not philosophical, a philosopher, or a philosophy. Comparatively speaking, “Oneness” could rightfully be said to be philosophical, albeit with micro brass tacks, as the term implies what is, whereas nonduality ‘says’ what is not, or, ‘not two’. Nonduality could be misunderstood as a philosophical negation, but in careful scrutiny is can be seen negation would be two. The comment was to the original post. No one asked for directions to a store, no one said a sense of self is delusional. That would actually be nonsensical. Sense, as in sensation, is the ‘dessert of the real’, to be uncovered via the unfettering of beliefs, and not the addition of beliefs, by no one. What was awake previously thought to be? (Rhetorical humor, not actually asking)

One of my kittens died today of flu and it broke my heart. I didn't expect that because I always thought that nonduality eliminates this from the equation but it turns out it change it into something different. I remembered all the good moments between us, her playfullness, her little cute voice calling me to get her food, the way she used to rub herself against my leg. I also imagined myself in her place suffering of disease and then dying slowly. But on the other hand I reminded myself that it is all an illusion and this cat will now enjoy life in another form. Death is paradoxical, it feels bad but very beautiful and touching at the same time. Flourish in peace my dear kitten.

thanks I just saw the situation from both perspectives, I think. I didn't repress myself using nonduality if that is what you are concerned about, I reminded myself of the full picture of reality. I think handling death in a healthy manner requires both perspectives.

Start with a low dose and, on future trips, add a bit more each time until you reach a breakthrough dose. If you’re plugging, start with 10 mg. You have lots and lots of time to increase your dose and have a breakthrough over the months and years ahead. The trip is way, way shorter on 5-MeO than LSD. So, if you start freaking out, remember that it’ll be over soon. For me, the scariest part of my breakthrough 5-MeO trips was feeling like I would never, ever come back to this current reality. That I’d be floating for eternity, going crazier and crazier, forever and ever in an ocean of nonduality. That, like a big fool, I had tricked myself into committing mahasamadhi. I’m still around, so I didn’t enter mahasamadhi, but my ego was freaking out and kept telling me I was fucked for eternity. If that happens to you, remember that you are coming back, it just feels like you aren’t. Actually, that particular “eternal madness” flavour of nonduality will make you super grateful for “boring, mundane, slow” reality, so in the end it’s all good, but still frightening. This whole thing is sorta tough to convey unless you experience it firsthand. Also, having a strong theoretical understanding of nonduality and enlightenment will help you weather any tough times. Interestingly, all of that homework will come back to comfort you when you need it most. Also, watch Leo’s episode on 5-MeO. The summary can be found here.

1. Madness (any seasoned psychonaut should see this. It is a raw and chaotic form of creativity which challenges even the most accepting of spiritual people. Inquire, “is there even a single thing in front of me that is not related to madness?”) 2. Intensity 3. Destruction 4. Decay 5. Growth 6. Evolution 7. Chaos (see #1) 8. Power 9. Unpredictability 10. Mystery 11. Simplicity 12. Complexity 13. Neither ________ nor _______ 14. The finest possible distinctions 15. No distinctions 16. Absurdity 17. Magnetism (the human urge to return to Source and for Source to return to the human) 18. ___________ 19. 20. ?-?=?️ 21. Progress 23. Regression 24. Impermanence 25. Permanence 26. No Self 27. Self 28. No self 29. self 30. Self-sacrifice 31. Self-preservation 32. Art 33. Nature 34. Neither life nor death 35. Neither existence nor nonexistence (See Mahayana Buddhism Two Truths) — "By & large, Kaccayana, this world is supported by (takes as its object) a polarity, that of existence & non-existence. But when one sees the origination of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'non-existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one. When one sees the cessation of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one.” From https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.015.than.html 36. Unknowable 37. Unreachable 38. Always known 39. Closer than reaching 40. Conflict 41. Struggle 42. Suffering 43. Beauty 44. Tao 45. Energy 46. Stillness 47. Movement 48. Duality 49. Nonduality 50. Imagination 51. Infinite 52. Finite 53. Emptiness 54. Form 55. Something 56. Nothing 57. All human emotions 58. All emotions outside of humanity 59. Gentleness 60. Brutality 61. Technology 62. Divinity (higher beings & possibilities for evolution) 63. Profanity (evil/lower beings & possibilities for devolution) 64. Laws of the Universe 65. The bending of Universal Laws 66. Jesus Christ 67. Buddha 68. Krishna 69. Mansur Al-Hallaj 70. Other great human spiritual figures 71. Criminals, terrorists, McDonald’s workers on their first day who make you wait 14 seconds longer than usual 72. Morality/Sila

Any thoughts about enlightenment or oneness are thoughts, taking place within the appearance of duality. Being "enlightened" is still just part of your identity and an element of the collective object of appearances that make up all of you that isn't the sheer nothing. Being "awake" the appearances around you do not vanish. You just interpret them differently, as nothing rather than something. But they are still appearing. So you are merely re-interpreting the appearance of duality within that appearance of duality. The sheer nothing by itself does not care about anything, so being extra empathic to others is not actually in any way appeasing the sheer nothing you share. It by itself never changes, even if you are literally the Buddha, all things "Buddha" are appearances. All his thoughts and feelings... You haven't actually left the game. Nobody ever leaves, like Hotel California. Look at how all these people are apparently awake, yet others persist. If any person truly "awoke" ALL people would collapse, every perspective would end across the board, because we are LITERALLY one thing ultimately. It wouldn't be possible to have one person "awake" and another not, because there ARE no others ultimately speaking. For this to even be possible proves that all elements of that "awakening" are just more objects in the appearance of duality. It's no different than watching a movie or playing a video game. It's still just experience. The absolute totality is never experienced as total. Duality is the most critical element of nonduality, as without it appearing, illusion or not, there would be no existence at all.

@Terell Kirby Wisdom has nothing to do with what you know. If the credibility of a spiritual teacher depends on them telling you whatever they think God is, then you'll fall for every trickster out there. You do realize anyone can figure out the nonduality language and just tell you what you want to hear right?

What you’re really saying there is “Nahm produces content which conflicts claims”. Nahm’s content is the unexpected result or product of cessation and is not in conflict with anything. Cessation means, cessation of the activity of thoughts in regard to the separate self, ego, or finite mind. This is exactly the same as saying there isn’t, and wasn’t, a Nahm. You could also simply say not two, or nonduality. You’re pulling a switcharo there with “it”. “It” there isn’t this thread, which is indeed funny. “It” there as you’re using “it” is “Leo’s content and people believing everything he says”. I’m not saying that’s silly or funny. I’m saying feel free to ask me until you’re absolutely satisfied about any claims I’ve made in my content. I am saying you asking me about other people’s content is silly, again, given that if you want my two cents there are my videos. Notice you just said it wasn’t a question about Nahm’s views or Leo’s views…. and then you say Nahm act’s in a way to seemingly purposefully not challenge….(wait for it)…. Leo’s views. What is the desired outcome of this ‘challenging of views’? Do you think Nahm is going to say something new, which wasn’t already said in Nahm’s twenty thousand posts & videos… and then you’ll have some big epiphany? If you are interested in ‘challenging someone’s views’, you are free to. If you want to make content stating your views, you are free to. If you want to produce conflict, you are free to. Even if you want to say that someone else is creating the conflict, you’re free to. Essential Meaning of bias: A tendency to believe that some people, ideas, etc., are better than others that usually results in treating some people unfairly. You are apparently as you say imaging it is there. You are not being forced to, even if you are being told to, or told it is right, or that you should, or should believe it. Even if every one does, still, you are never forced to do so. I’ve been working a lot on some other projects recently, but I will make a video literally showing everyone the Flying Spaghetti Monster very soon. Most of your minds will refute and you likely won’t even be able to see it. The FSM is a highly complex, incredibly advanced teaching. It could take you thirty one years to even begin to grasp. (Are you laughing?) If not, you probably just need to get laid. (now…? Laughing…?)

Samadhi part 1 and 2(nonduality) Inner Worlds Outer Worlds(nonduality) Something Unknown(research into psychic phenomena) Infinity, The ultimate trip(nonduality and near death experiences) Life after Life(near death experiences) After Life(near death experiences) PHI(non-duality) Insight Out(research into out of body experiences and astral projection) Beyond our sight(near death experiences) Psyched out(plant medicines and psychedelics) Psychedelia(plant medicines and psychedelics) Becoming nobody(Ram Dass’ life and teachings) Essential lectures of Alan Watts(Video lectures you cannot find on YouTube as far as I’m aware) ET’s Among Us series(about ufology… kind of a mixed bag. Some compelling, others sorta fringe.) First Contact (Documentary on Bashar… a lot of people like Bashar on this forum so maybe you would. I don’t really know what to think of him personally, but his metaphysics is on point) Cosmic whistleblowers(Roswell incident) The UFO Enigma of Flying Spheres Quest for the lost civilization(archeology with Graham Hancock) Bufo Alvarius(5-MeO-DMT) The Path: Beyond the physical (astral projection, remote viewing and psychic phenomena) The Path: After Life Third Eye Spies (Project Stargate, remote viewing, psychic phenomena) These are just some that I personally liked. I know there are more that I can’t recall or find right now, and you might find even more that you get something out of.

THE TEN OX-HERDING STAGES OF ZEN From of The Maha Gopalaka Sutta, an interpretation. SEARCHING One begins to question the nature of oneself, and the origin & true nature of the universe & experience of reality. This is often brought about by loss, fear, suffering, feeling incomplete, unworthy, a sense something is lacking, something is wrong with oneself, or simply by intuition & curiosity. The search might also arise from ‘having it all’, yet intuitively sensing there is much more to life and experience which remains veiled. SEEING THE FOOTPRINTS Seeking to rectify this sense, one begins the search and discovers the plethora of materials, teachers & teachings available; as if appearing ‘right out of the woodwork’. As if manifesting, inexplicably. One soon adopts a practice such as meditation, intuitively drawn to peace, stillness, silence & repose; though there may be no acuity in understanding or comprehension yet as to why. As the practice begins to take hold and resonate, one begins to see the root of suffering is not the world, but the conflicts and in-equanimity arising ‘in’, or, of one’s own mind. The footprints of the ox are discovered in the accompanying discordant feeling of reactionary thoughts, behaviors & actions. In renewed & expanded open mindedness, the cessation of suffering is now considered to be possible, yet remains unseen & un-grasped. One begins to question the collective & status quo, finding short term satisfaction in logic & reason and thinking for oneself, rather than continuing to ‘fall in with the herd’, or seek refuge in avoidance & aversion, by adhere to norms, dogmas, or conjecture (unverified collective beliefs handed down via tradition, and implied pressures of inclusion, vs isolation). GLIMPSING Dots connect between the struggles, hostilities and plight of the inner world, and outer world experienced, and the asymmetries of one’s own mind. As direct experience is inspected, validation of what the seeker has heard from teachers & learned from teachings begins to be seen first hand. As discord is discovered & aligned in the ‘inner world’, new perspectives of ways of being, living, and relating to the ‘outer world’ and others are experienced. The ever-increasing feeling of alignment is the ‘substance’ in & of itself, of confirmation, the visceral intrinsic validity of the practice, that which the teachers can never speak. This is a joyful and promising stage on the path, as the glimpse of this new way resonates intuitively with the calling by which the seeking, practice and search originated. Empowerment & inspiration begin to arise, as the reactionary and discordant thoughts, behaviors & actions begin to be illuminated, and more clearly seen, understood, and thus, no longer fed attention. Understanding arises as the dots connect between suffering, conditioning, limiting beliefs, reactionary living, collective paradigms, and living the life which is the dream within to be manifest & experienced. CATCHING Now aware of the significance of direct experience, and the physiological benefits & feeling of alignment from the practice and inspection, a new glimpse is seen - that of the truly radical magnitude and depth, of conditioning. One is becoming more acutely aware of patterns of clinging & averting, and of reaction & suppression, which have thus far been unknowingly at the helm of one’s life. Countless questions arise as the mind is both brightened by, and confounded by, these discoveries. Here diligence to the practice, mindfulness, and ‘remaining’ present, are realized to be of great significance. This can be a most difficult stage, as conditioning which has been unknowingly innocently adopted & suppressed is more fully coming to light, arising analogous to a meal which didn’t taste good in the first place & never settled, coming up & out. Expression is most key, as reactionary causal living & existence has begun to be seen as not really ‘awake’, or as any real quality of living at all. Motive, that is, the projection of the very feeling sought, onto things & outcomes, begins to be seen as inspirationally hollow and unsatisfying. Old thought patterns & beliefs, still arising, are met with mindfulness as the shadow is brought into the light of awareness. Animalistic reactive aggressions are now felt with more intensity & sensitivity, as they inevitably come ‘up & out’. The trap of aversion to the practice itself, arises. ‘Energy’, like ‘relaxation within’, are seen to be mere concepts of an old paradigm, as the feeling-realization of the actuality to which these words point has begun. Patience, deeper relaxation within, stillness of mind & equanimity of emotion become respectfully realized as the curative way of understanding. TAMING As the practiced mind calms & clears, the body undergoes an emptying of suppressions. Via the practice, stillness & the way of non is grasped, such as non-engagement, non-judgement and non-reaction. The ‘cup’ continues to empty such that empathy, understanding, and true compassion & wisdom have a space to arise within. This stage calls for continued diligence & patience, as expression empties, and creates the space for the expanded actuality of self-acceptance & self-love. More deeply, that one can not ‘do it all one’s self’ is realized. That is, sayings like ‘give it to God’, and the ‘power of letting go’ are more appreciated and mindfully & swiftly employed. Response, rather than reaction, intrinsically arises and is enjoyed as it is more & more naturally pronounced. The practiced, opened & expanded mind, in conjunction with the ‘emptied body’, are now more naturally culminating a new and more single pointed awareness & focus, aligned with & attentive to the mind’s ‘higher’ guidance, ‘it’s very ‘substance’, that of feeling. In this natural & intrinsic alignment arises renewal, depth, acuity and heightened sensitivity of sensation. Real change occurs in regard to non-dwelling, non-complaining, and non-judgement as the taste & actuality of true freedom is now firmly understood & more often glimpsed. Swiftness of ability to shift focus in accordance with feeling-guidance becomes the Way & the paramount order of every day. Often, this is a time of introspection, reflection, deeper acceptance, forgiveness, and care for any lingering discord in matters of relationships with others, as the actuality of communion with source is realized. That of the guidance, of emotion. The reality of universal harmony and correlations with presence & focus become clearer. Much pain is transmutated as much beauty, and glimpses arise more often, more profound, yielding yet deeper insights in the vein of unification. RIDING HOME Here the practice, inspection of direct experience, learning as listening to source, and changes in accordance with wanted therein, are more readily employed & enjoyed, and all begins to coalesce. A relaxed body-mind becomes the norm. Ease of being is actual & real. Confirmation of the words of mystics is known first hand in direct experience. The fruits of dedication to the practice now fully ripen and become the norm. Experience is no longer veiled by the facade of black & white; one is not moved by causation nor internal polarities, and the oneness of all-grey deeply intuitively resounds & resonates. The actuality and nonduality of trust in the universe is realized with clarity, as all which does not serve is swiftly released & and all which does is received in non-attachment, natural joy and appreciation & complete equanimity. The mind, ever-expanding, tastes the true creativity of its source, and has unmistakably ‘returned’ Home. Aligned & abiding in, of, and as nonlocalized-feeling, the mind is naturally focused and free of resistance. Childlike fun & lightheartedness has ‘returned’ to stay. Glimpses become incredibly deep, and are no longer intermittent, but readily accessible and never so far as to be out of reach of the peaceful mind. Awareness non-localizes here, ‘filling the room’, in miraculous expansion & delightful, unthinkable actuality. TRANSCENDING OTHER Home. The Great Relief, The Great Rest. Dissipation, abidance of being, true embodiment of compassion. Notions of harming, hurting, outsmarting, righteousness, manipulation, need to understand or be understood no longer arise; they came with losing the ox; they left with finding the ox; ineffable freedom is actualized. Emotion guides, far superior to thought. For all of the seeker’s diligence, inner battles, trials & tribulations; nothing is gained, nothing is realized, nothing is found, nothing was lost. TRANSCENDING SELF-AND-OTHER Nothing remains; self, no self, other, no other, world, no world, body, no body, mind, no mind, negation, non-negation, phenomena, non-phenomena; nothing remains. Wisdom, ignorance, seeking, finding, seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, breathing, knowledge, aware, conscious, infinite, finite, formless, form, universe, non-universe, Truth, The True Nature; all notions are dispelled by direct experience. Nothing is perfection; perfection is nothing. Seeing for the first time, hearing for the first time, feeling for the first time, breathing for the first time, speaking for the first time, understanding for the first time; never seeing, never hearing, never feeling, never breathing, never speaking, never understanding. Distinctions of conceptual vs direct experience, idea vs actuality, path vs not path; having gone full circle have collapsed, never having occurred. The bottom of the bucket has fallen away; compassion ever-pours up, out & through the emptied vessel, where conditioning once did. Presence is intrinsically spontaneous creativity. Life is a an impossible, miraculous wonder to behold. A Bodhisattva see’s the world for the first time; as the absence of Bodhisattva & world. SOURCE Absolute (and not). The tongue can not taste tongue; eye can not see eye, ear can not hear ear, finger can not point to finger. The knower is the known; the striver was the strife. Understanding is under standing; confusion is not. Mystery dispelled; mystery revealed. RETURNING Absolute Unconditional Wakefulness. Unfettered; complete engagement. Effortlessly, perpetually paying forward. Ineffable, Mystical, Magic. ? From Maps & Traps.

Haha holy fuck. I can’t believe the trip I just had. Just want to express my gratitude for Leo, this unique path of awakening, and all of the beings participating in this collective healing of the planet. This is the best and most exciting time to ever be alive right now. WE are apart of the “spiritual rebirth” on this planet. I’m so excited to be playing music in front of thousands with my love for nonduality combined. The visions I had during my trip were beyond magical. I was listening to tickets to my downfall “nothing inside” - MGK, and envisioned MGK playing this to the entire world, with every being on the planet bare naked, god-realized, and in complete harmony with all the beauty and goodness of the universe and earth as a whole. I am SO excited for what’s to come. As long as I commit to staying alive and enduring the pain of existence/life, not killing myself, I’ll have the most beautiful life I could have ever asked for and more. Music, health, consciousness, love, beauty, art, relationships, humor, motivational speaking, shamanic crowd work, and performing is my art and bliss. I am fearless. I know how powerful I truly am. It’s very intimidating what this means for my survival and how torturous this will be to actualize it, however, what the fuck else am I or anybody else doing? Haha Like, I’m going to suffer either way, life is suffering until you awaken. So might as well make the most of it, right? Honestly, I look up to MGK more than Leo at this point. Haha. I realized MGK’s birthday is one day after mine, and Leo’s is 4 days before mine. So, there’s something significant about that, perhaps. During this trip, I become one with MGK and realized a lot of shit that none of you guys may believe, so I’ll keep quiet?

@BenG i see. Fair enough. if you're new to nonduality it may take some time to grasp this that all manifestaion comes from nothing. Manifestaion can cease to exist. When everything dissapears. That which is left is called Nothingness/absolute/Shiva is the Source of all things. If it's not sinking in at the moment it's okey. I don't know if I can say something to make it more clear.