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So I decided to finally meditate seriously on the deepest I could go. I got intoxicated by bliss seeing that there is no substance, nothing is happening to no one. I have no idea why but this is so.... fucking blissful. I am still feeling it. It started in the forehead, spread to whole head. Then I focused how the different feelings of my body were not happening to anyone as well and were made of nothing, and then my whole body felt that bliss. I feel so relaxed. Like damn. I sat for a good while. Then I focussed on how this bliss itself is happening to no one, and that intensified it 5X. What do you guys have to say on this? Like could I be falling in some sort of trap? The bliss feels like the universe is(I am) in a constant state of blooming outwards as a flower. It's better than an orgasm.

@Javfly33 Delightful. Spreading bliss and love like nobody's business, lol. Feeling better now? Well, kindly allow me quote what you wrote earlier: Yeah, that kind of sounds like you are trying to stop the so-called "cycle of reincarnation", wouldn't you say so? Which begs the question: Why do you think that it is necessary to stop something which God has set in motion? Do you think that God is a fucking idiot who doesn't know what he's doing, and now it's up to you to clean up the mess he has created? And what the fuck would be the alternative? You do realize that without form there can be no experience of reality, right? (And please, just stick to answering the questions. Your petulant hissy fits are getting tiresome.)

I can only tell you my experience. I've been infinite bliss before. (White light environment - Divine love) I've been infinite space before (No dimensions) I've touched infinite sorrow before. (An Ocean of suffering, I didn't immerse myself in it fully) Nothing else existed in those moments. I still observed them happening, but the reality became them, and they were without end. I call them states because I can look at/feel/experience them individually. We don't have to call it states, we can call it everything that existed in that moment. *We can look at this way instead An apple is infinity if that's all which is in focus. It's not all the potential infinity could be. It's the same with anything, and emotions.

Im not talking about an emotional state. Everytime i mention the Word Bliss in this forum there some people that came up saying things like that. Bliss is not an emotional state or a psychological state. Even more, what im implying is Bliss is not a state but the form and quality itself of Consciousness. Wrong. Sorrow is an aberration and distortion of Consciousness. Is Consciousness Being kidnapped by the Mind and ego. It does not work like that. Bliss comes to me, i dont seek It. What fault do i have if i do the right things internally? Just sharing the discoveries as they come.

Any emotional state is infinite. I wouldn't advise seeking a wider spiritual experience with other emotions unless you are very well grounded. I've experienced: Infinite Nothingness. Infinite bliss. Infinite sorrow. All of them were me.

Should I be jealous of someone who seemingly hates is earthly existence so much that he seemingly spends all of his waking hours trying to escape it? That really doesn't sound all too blissful to me. Exactly. So why get lost in conceptual stories about "death" and "empty bliss" and "breaking the cycle of reincarnation" instead of just living in the moment and appreciating the Here and Now as it is? All that there is is THIS. So you either embrace it, or you suffer. I didn't say "just fuck everything", I said "just love everything". Slight difference.

Yeah and I thought it's also a bit closer to leo's kind of vision since it doesn't appear to deny the mind as much as other schools of mysticism seem to, I know there are some schools that are supposed to go through intelligence but I haven't personally seen any information about what that is supposed to look like, even if there are some kind of people who might not be considered conventionally intelligent I believe that kind of path might actually suit them pretty well, when I sit in meditation I often find that the sensations that I feel at least in superficial silence are a lot like just like thoughts, for me thoughts are like regular senses they can just be way more chaotic or instead overly serious and limited in unnecessary ways just like the all other sensations, I can feel but not understand completely how every other sensation affects the sensation of thought and vice versa, thoughts just as more capacity to be continually active and voluntary rather than mostly receptive. So thinking ends up being our most detached and flexible sensations at first that slowly get tagged to more material sensations and vice versa which will either cause you suffering or bliss which determines the kind of thoughts that happen less or more frequently and of course how the sensation of thought interacts with the other sensations of your own thoughts which include other people. Of course imagination and thought is pretty much the same thing to me too, you can just say it's more wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_UFO_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallée Jacques Vallée, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers The Multiverse of Infinite Reality with its endless gardens of good & evil. The eddies, vortexes,waves of the appearances of good&evil of the mighty infinite River of Reality are fascinating. And beyond good & evil and angels & demons, rumour has it that even some very fascinating ET-minds in alien ET-dimensions can be accessed. Just more appearances and eddies of appearance on the Infinite River that one truly is, giving the separate-self even more distraction-opportunities in its nearly endless endeavour of chasing its own tail, but who cares... And until the fascination of this wave-surfing is at least partically relaxed, telling about the bliss of dropping into the River and dissolving in it (instead of being endlessly fascinated by the games of its waves/vortexes/appearances) remains that largely futile task of Selling Water by the River ... just tea

@Someone here holy shit dude Look at wikipedia says: " ānanda signifies eternal bliss which accompanies the ending of the rebirth cycle. Those who renounce the fruits of their actions and submit themselves completely to the divine will, arrive at the final termination of the cyclical life process (saṃsāra) to enjoy eternal bliss (ānanda) in perfect union with the godhead. " Literally yesterday i had the same idea. Before reading that wikipedia Page. I had the intuition, reincarnation process ends when consciousness realizes itself as Pure Bliss (its own nature/ purest quality). And until that happen the consciousness keeps reincarnating in bodies in order to be able to consciously Awaken. Im not fantasizing. Are you jealous of me i get to experience true Bliss? You shouldnt, this didnt come free. Ive invested about 500 hours or more in current yoga process which delivers this kind of realizations. And even, this does not come each day. ""What if you realize that everything is already perfect, divine, whole, complete?"" Yes and no. Because as wikipedia says, much probably the work is making those states of being a reality, more than conceptually telling Yourself is all perfect and bliss while not quite true feeling perfect and bliss Cycle of reincarnation Will Keep repeating if not handling this properly. You have been warned! 🫢 There is a difference between concepts and reality. Is very different to conceptually telling Yourself is all bliss vs actually Being That. The difference might be stopping the cycle of reincarnation or not. So, the stakes are high. Your perspective of just fuck everything probably wont cut It. But...you do you. Lets see Who bet most wisely.

The clumsy way I see it is: We are the impossible which is both extra bliss and suffering. Both suffering and extra perfection are impossible, nobody/nothing would ever choose to suffer or would ever choose more than perfection, you cannot be more than perfect. Time seems to be intertwined/created by these impossibilities because we cannot and do not need to exist more than or as more than perfection, a single perfect moment is indeed utter perfection for those who have had some experience, the opposite for those who have felt true horror. We exist because we are that which survives both perfect bliss and suffering which can't exist by themselves because they are both perfect and infinitely realized, that is, suffering never exists/never existed and bliss has and will always exist and it's so perfect it doesn't even need to exist, at least within time, it's that powerful. That said after typing and deleting a huge amount of confused text I guess we too can't exist outside suffering/bliss either, I guess we are not even just time, we are connected quantities which when connected to bliss form time which generates extra bliss/suffering or whatever order you want, maybe, we are more than what we need to be, we are greed and ignorance if put into story like concepts but also the formidable and unfathomable, more than ONE kind of beings, quantity/type.

What if you stop asking "what if"? What if you stop fantasizing about death and Bliss and instead embrace life with all that it entails? What if you realize that everything is already perfect, divine, whole, complete? WHAT IF, indeed!

Great Post. But you know ..nothing new under the sun ..this was discovered thousands years ago .. The Hindu 🕉️ tradition calls consciousness "Sat-Chit-Ananda". Meaning existence..awareness..bliss .

It might be a destined path for some and not for others. I know people who respond extremely well to kundalini yoga and Shaktipat (transmission of kundalini from teacher to student). Personally, I got Shaktipat from Jan Esmann, and I didn't feel a single thing. DId Kriya supreme fire as well and just got some headaches instead of bliss. Kundalini itself is real; it manifests as a snake-type condensed love at the bottom of your spine, and when it awakens and enters your spine, there's insane bliss and beauty. It feels like having sex with God because it enters you at the perineum and it actually feels like a snake-type condensed love is entering the spine. You can unlock it through simple silence, there is no need for any special techniques.

Yeah haha a curse is exactly what it feels like at this point. My hairs falling out and everything from the constant stress. Its not been all bad. The 1% of bliss I have experienced has been enough to keep me going, its not just a bodily feeling, its a creative soar that lights up your whole world. And thanks for the kind words, things have been looking up recently anyway, I think I've figured out the cause of my symptoms, they've mellowed when I explored this avenue which is a good sign.

Love this video... wasn't sure where it would fit best. Regardless of whether there's free will or not there seems to be 4 things that make for successful outcomes... The best performing strategies shared 4 qualities: - They are all nice (not the first to defect) - Forgiving (retaliates but doesn't hold a grudge) .. this conclusion actually came as a shock to the researchers - Being retaliatory (when your opponent attacks, strike back immediately, don't be a pushover) - Being clear (can't establish a pattern of trust with a program that has seemingly no rules/reason behind their behavior) It's best to assume you have free will, even if you don't, because defeatism can lead down a rather black pilled path that spirals downward. That said, I don't believe there is a whole lot of free will as a species... we are products of our DNA, enviornment, and upbringing. Even my knowing all this intellectual stuff about all these topics is because I had the internet. If the internet didn't exist, I'd be totally different. Unfortunately the more knowledge one gains the more black pilled the world seems... ignorance (taking the blue pill) truly is bliss. Even if you make a perfect human paradise, you can't change the basic laws of nature that drive evolution. The Lion will continue to eat the baby gazelle... this is why the solution is not more knowledge, analysis paralysis, but getting off social media and living, being, with a proper mindset.. the subsconscious mind can be reprogrammed. Leo's 65 principles for a good life video... screens are the poison, social media is the poison, hours on the internet are the poison, should statements about how reality "should" be are the poison. I have this video on my homepage to remind me. Most of this guy's content is hit or miss, but this video is golden.

Yep. Ignoring hateful people is bliss. Can be using attention in much more useful ways.

@Yimpa Ignorance is bliss.

Was meditating and the neighbours kids were arguing about some shit with their parents. I couldn´t avoid perceiving the Love that emanated of each of their voices, even though they were arguing. The bliss of GOD. At that point was fully conscious there was no difference between my cousins and those kids, or my parents and those parents. Clear perception that their voices are literally Consciousness. Consciousness (or God) is 'all over the place'. There is no such a thing as 'my consciouness'. (Biggest bullshit I ever came up with. )

Yes. I took the LP Course last fall and realized this. I also take on the same mindset that I want my work to be completely original and creative. Of course Leo is a huge influence in my work. I'm currently on my "small bets" arc to discover my most authentic style, making interview videos with a personal dev spin on it, following my bliss I also am called to a stronger concentration in emotions / emotional health, social dynamics in my work.

Thanks for the suggestions. I did try 2C-B a few years ago and it's definitely easy on the mind, but phenethylamines in general just don't agree with me for whatever reason. I get a lot of tension and bizarre body sensations. I'm not really a fan of lysergamides either. Tryptamines have always been where it's at. I agree with your general philosophy of fun involving drugs being a borrowing of tomorrow's happiness today. I just think certain psychedelics have a way of bypassing the rule to some degree. Using pharma as an example, it's as if it would activate my own innate joy and bliss tied to my experience of Self, as opposed to something like MDMA which squeezes the serotonin and dopamine out of my brain. And my pharma hangover would amount to being ever so slightly fatigued the rest of the day, whereas I'm sure you know the horrors that MDMA can produce for days later. I'm starting to realize my answer already exists in the form of pharma lol. I guess I'm just curious what else is out there though.

I was taken into the light of Source itself. It started within like 15 seconds of the meditation beginning. It was quite unexpected. Meditation had been quite weak for me. But I fully committed myself to learning more from a spiritual guide yesterday, and today I had a breakthrough. It was such a healing space to be in. Truly remarkable.

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It is wrong to be devotees of any human. Specifically these people who tell you not to be devotees to them but devotees to God. Sadhguru himself says dont put people above you, Jesus say the same thing dont put anyone else above you but God but people will then start to do it. Its not about them its about You and God. I've seen most of Sadhguru videos and he says when he dies he said ideally he wants everyone to forget he existed immediately. God make you and God make Sadhguru to help you but. The truth is Sadhguru cannot help you see or understand truth and becoming a devotee would not help. The reason Sadhguru hasnt straight up said what truth is to help is because its impossible to do. Sadhguru and truth do not correlate except through the same way you and truth correlate. If you were to see truth through Sadguru you would see its not him but truth telling you that its not Sadhguru by using Sadhguru to point to itself. Its like God is in a room waiting for you to have sex with it and then you invite Sadhguru in to cuck you into missing out on infinite bliss with God. Sadhguru is saying dont let me in I dont want to cuck you but you are like come in and do it because I want you to show me.

Celibate Monks being perverted only happens because their experience of life is still body based, they have not gone beyond the body and mind, when they do then they experience something more fantastic than bodily sex orgasms and such body pleasures, that is true Brahmacharya, you are not denying yourself anything, because You have experience life beyond Body and Mind, this is Bliss and that takes away the need to search for simple pleasures...

To Use Suffering as a tool for more Spiritual Growth or Growth in general is can be done, but its risky and unnecessary, some cannot get out of the suffering they feel and can be trapped by it and live their whole lives suffering and even taking their lives.. One can go the path of Bliss, on a scale of 0-10 Peace is 0, 10 is Ecstasy, its a matter of intensity of Experience, but if You are not at Peace naturally within, then your Potential is very limited and won't be experienced or explored... The more Suffering You feel the further away from Truth You are its plain and simple, but the ego luvs it, "Hey Look what I've done and I've gone thru it with Lots of Suffering, look at me look at me.." so crude and stupid!