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I may not be full of self love or anything, but I’m also nowhere close to being self hating. I have way too much hatred directed at everyone else and most of the world to have any leftover for myself since I’m not the one that did anything wrong. All I ever did was be myself and all it has gotten me is permanent virginity. But let’s say I magically wake up tomorrow with maximum self love and tons of happiness resulting from it. Then there won’t be nearly as much bliss in getting laid as there would have been had I gotten it when I really needed it. The whole point of doing anything is to fill a void. Food doesn’t taste good at all when you’re already full. There would be no point in building a fire if your house already had a good heating system, etc. I’ll leave you with this: Who do you think would get a better experience out of having a hot girlfriend; an ultra horny, basement dwelling NEET who hasn’t seen a woman in person for years, or a high status, fully self actualized alpha who can get all the girls he wants and has had plenty?

From your perspective it is. From my experience it is cool, but not that life changing after the dust has settled. I realized that the only thing to do is to pursue what I enjoy. I think most people, including myself until recently, believe that there is something we must do in this life. For people who pursue spirituality a lot of the times it comes across that we should become more loving or help others. It can be a variety of other things, but it is wrapped up in an idea that there is an objective purpose to existence. If I don't meditate x hours a week, believe x ideas, and live a certain way I am not awakened. People package awakening that it is a great thing that can happen. I think its value is highly overstated. The only real way my life has changed after pursuing awakening i that I am conscious on a deeper level of why I do things. I used to act unconsciously on desires without knowing any of the biases operating the steering wheel behind my life. Spirituality made me believe, and I think a lot of others too, that these biases are bad and should be removed. But, I have recently realized that thinking this way is just as subjective as the biases. So I have now adopted a lifestyle where I simply try to embody the purest form of my existence. I simply do what I enjoy and exist the way I enjoy. In fact, my life is, in many ways, similar to the way it was 4 years ago before I started philosophy/spirituality. The difference is I realize the absolute relativity of my beliefs and everyone elses, and I am making a conscious decision to experience the things I enjoy, rather than let them unconsciosuly control me. I do not think many people here can relate or understand what I am saying because they have not awakened to the fact that awakening is only relatively better than staying asleep. Most people pursue awakening because they think it will be genuinely better than many other things they can dedicate their time to. I think that many also believe that it would be a great thing for other people to pursue awakening too. Now that i see how this is as relative as any other value judgement, I have come to accept that there are many other things I enjoy more than experiencing the bliss and peace of no mind. Awakening has significantly reduced the suffering I experience in life, but now that the dust has settled, I realize that there are many other things I genuinely enjoy more than letting go and experiencing peace. It is not that I cannot return to that state to enjoy it also, but that I have many other things which I would rather do.

God is the Fountain of joy - Joy and Joy alone is God's Being. A state exists in which there is only Bliss, Beatitude, Supreme Felicity. At your level, joy has its opposite; you speak of the joys of heaven and the torments of hell. But where there is Eternal Love - Love in its own right cannot be expressed. It is entirely beyond such words as "what is or what is not?"

True, Chad Angel Gabriel was pointing to the eternal where you can be bliss. Thats the thing thats missing, intention. Its pointless if its being forced on people. I do think theres possibly something to praying even if not consciously engaged in it. Most people due to human bias and a evolutionary mismatch of ancient instincts in modern environments just seem to have bad thinking patterns and habits. Prayers and gratitude such as ''thank Lord for another day to live, thank Lord for my oatmeal and coffee I'm about to dive into'' can be a habitual practice that can have positive effects regardless of one's conscious engagement. Even if its half assed, you're training your brain to spot silver linings in a world that often feels like it's on fire. It's like you're hacking your own operating system. We don't need to understand every line of code to benefit from the update and our subconscious is doing the heavy lifting, rewiring neural pathways while we're busy doom-scrolling or netflixing. The shift on the subconscious it has may keep us slightly more on the positive end of the scale - thats probably what the studies are picking up on when they conclude positive benefits to prayer - something can also be said about rituals being relaxing. Its a bit like robotically brushing teeth, most aren't conscious when doing it but it has certain health benefits nonetheless.

In experience yes. But only one is being "there", only one is in a way real. You can't kill the darkness, but you could blow up the sun. That's because darkness has no reality of its own, it's merely the absence of something – which is in this case light. You can't fight darkness – but it simply disappears when you bring light. So: Don't focus on the suffering, focus on your true nature, which is eternal bliss.

That bliss is something one has to forget in order to experience oneself as an ego. What's real? The darkness at night or the sun?

I should’ve written self awareness in particular to be more clear. That bliss might be accessed in the absence of ego I guess ?

In the so-called material world there's constant stress for every living being, that's true. Also called survival of course. But with ever more awareness, there's Ananda – a sort of existential happiness/bliss. But it's not always easily accessible.

When you do sadhana, you are increasing the speed at which you digest your karma. Life starts happening quicker and the things you would normally change after 10 years you will change in one. The Negative is that you will go trough a lot a lust and it's acctually hard to pinpoint how to deal with it. There are techniques for sure, one example is to keep doing sadhana which stimulates your vishuddi, anja or sahasrara chakra. Then your lust doesn't just build up and get trapped and find expression in the ways you have known before but to experience distance between you and the body so that you are energetic, yet lighter and in restful awareness so that you don't feel you have to go into some lust to feel some moments of bliss. In reality this rarely goes perfectly, so some abstinence and struggle is needed as our society is largely built on exploiting your needs and pleasures.

Those are two ways for sure, dis identifying is also a way, dropping all Your conscious/unconscious beliefs, living in the NOW, Accepting all that is as it Is, learning how to Breath right, Sit right, Think right, Eat right, many ways to do it, getting Yourself to a place of natural Peace or Bliss, this gives You great Clarity, when Your looking outside of Yourself for Fulfilment, that makes You Blind I think...

In my experience, the best way to develop freedom from attachment is to find yourself experiencing something so fantastic, pleasurable, wonderful, and blissful that all of your desire for everything and the entire world of experience, consciousness, and form is quenched, if only for an instant. I think people will find this potentially counterintuitive in practice. My first taste of this possibility came entirely unplanned in the middle of a normal day and typical activities for myself. It seems like many people get the idea that reducing attachment means getting less of things they want by some forced monk-like behavior. To me, this is doomed to fail. You’ll end up repressing behaviors and your desire which does not reduce it or do away with it. It only hides desire and instead develops aversion which is just as rooted in attachment as any sort of desire is. We are attached to numerous things, feelings, people, and activities which has us wandering in samsara endlessly. This happens because we keep looking in this world for deep, fulfilling, and perfect satisfaction when this world is entirely incapable of providing that. With the right practice, the Mind can recognize that there is no solace to be found in this world. It helps for the Mind to see some of the highest levels of bliss that experience can offer though. Before this point, the Mind might think it is still missing out on something in the world of experience. It can then stop trying to pry perfection from what is imperfect. Then the Absolute can rest within itself. This is the liberation I’m seeking.

For each unit of freedom, bliss and love there will be a proportionally higher amount of intensity and time spent in suffering, we are in an evolving universe so this proportion will progress towards more and more suffering, so you can start at a 1 to 2 ratio and end at a 1 to a trillion rate of suffering, until you say fuck all proportion, all fairness, all selfness and say yes to all your greed, I want everything for free and for no repercussions and for there to be no negative consequences 100% of the time at 100% of intensity, seeing that this is not the case my own and your suffering will keep increasing to absolutely unfairly crazy levels, you might be thinking everything's okay now, you suffered your part to deserve your reward but that's not how it works. How it works is, either you have everything, all the time in every possible good way for the absolutely freeist and laziest way, whatever way you like or be stubborn and insist that you need to torture yourself and be egoless and get your "reward" which is progressively higher degrees of horrific torture until you develop a real ego so you can finally say fuck all and everything and be the absolute most selfish one, the ultimate selfishness that knows no limits because fuck you and all your torture and say yes to all your depravities with no shame as they come in their infinite forms. It's an abnormal kind of selfishness so that doesn't mean just to be evil but it will certainly look very scary from the outside.Sorry.

This is the nature of all sensory and intellectual pleasures which are not of a permanent nature due to the factors of saturation or impermanence. You have to keep chasing such fleeting pleasures in the hope of eternal happiness which is but a mirage or illusion. However joy and bliss of a permanent nature and greater intensity than sensory pleasures, is within ourselves and accessible if one makes the proper efforts for it. Being in present moment awareness or mindfulness is one such way forward. Present moment awareness or mindfulness however requires a lot of intelligent practice as it does not come easily due to the incessant thinking and emoting of the mind. It would be great if you are in the midst of nature or in the beach as the high prana/chi levels enables better present moment awareness. Being in present moment awareness is not contradictory to enjoyment of work. In fact, if you enjoy your work projects it automatically ensures awareness. This saying by Barry Long will shed light on the subject..

Me personally, I want to synergize and understand everything, chakras, consciousness, life, art, perspective, technology, the nature and relationship of the self, exploring what I am, what I observe, what I understand, how I understand up to the infinite stratosphere of metaness, I take in the morning sun and immerse myself in the lake, I do yoga to flex my spine into a dynamic state of being and release the tension, I binge Sadhguru and Leo's videos to explore the nature of reality and find out how I construct my own self, I use psychedelics and dissociatives to expand my mind and materialize, dissolve and interconnect everything within. But this is a question to everyone on this forum. What drives you? What purpose or state of being are you pursuing or embodying right now? What keeps you on this forum instead of dissolving into pure bliss without the room to communicate back?

A great question. Im similar to you. I used to think all I wanted was to be a monk and just bliss out but now I want to bring Realization to the world and as God create my own art peice with my life. I love to share wisdom, connect with Women and be a superior lover, travel, nail my habits down, learn and understand, and just kick ass in all areas of life. I deeply enjoy being God IN the world IN the dream and Mastering life itself. I do need my time in nature though for sure to rest and just be

Oh God, the creator of everything within you, i find bliss without you, life is miserable within you, i find fulfillment and contentment for you're the only one

I have an itch I need to scratch. This very normal, every day, relentless, humdrum, experience of mine is actually really bizzare and extraordinary, and there "I" am in the middle of it. WTAF? And then I have some bald guy on YouTube telling me "yes yes your experience is extraordinary yes". How can I not be hooked on working it all out. I've already had the dissolving bit that was the normal part. Bliss would just be the cherry on top.

Also, nobody has solved this problem, when they do, I (infinity) will have: I stand in front of you and shout in your face. How do you maintain bliss? The best I have is detachment, which seems like a poor answer for an infinite whole. I've toyed with love for anger, but that never works because anger is a detaching force.

Because life is many things to me, not just bliss. Though a once-a-month bliss experience would be nice to have and should be coded into the human experience naturally without needing to go anywhere, take, or buy anything,. What are my most common states: Observation Frustration Analysis Apathy Suffering Sentiment Synchronicity Sadness Happiness Peace Cyclic Pattern Institution Calm An alternate question: What stops you from dissolving into the emotionless void? Infinite sorrow, or infinite insert emotion here: X

I stayed on no mind level,psychadelics showed me that if i go further beyond that state ill transcend human experience,so first i want to achieve things in life, dreaming this humans ups and downs before i enter that bliss you talking about in old age,because there wont be enjoyment of the physical anymore.

More that endless game seems like Evolution. We must keep ourselves open minded! I think more than time needs an intention. Your karma is written in the structure of reality. So you need a strong intention to dissolve it. Karma is saved from reincarnation to reincarnation. When you dissolve it, reincarnation stops, you merge with the Infinite and enjoy pure Death-Ecstatic Bliss. Then when all memories of God are dissolved, then the next Creation begins. People don´t get how deep this goes! And that there is work to do right now if we want to advance. Let´s not let in the hands of any imaginary God what is really in our hands. We are Dreaming this UP.

Thoughts. It is going on it's own without any input from you. That's an illusion. I said nothing about not having feelings of happiness on a daily basis. They are still short lived when they arise even if they are frequent. Everything is in motion. So are thoughts. Constant negative thoughts in motion can bring upon depression if kept alive and believed in. The bliss being more life empowering than depression that you talk about here is still just a belief, a human belief. A thought. The very mere thought that happiness is good and sadness is bad is the very thing that creates more sadness because the thought seeks for more happiness because it thinks it's a better sensation. If all these sensations were to be left alone and not come with them judgements of good or bad, right or wrong and just move through the body on it's own; there wouldn't be an imbalance where depression arises. Each time one experiences happiness, UT tries to hold on to that feeling and now a default mode gas been created where the sadness gets deeper and gets stuck in the body as unwelcom You guys keep interpreting what was said with your own train of thought processes and not seeing it for what it is. It's a natural occurrence and cannot be helped, because of your constructs so I understand. Nothing in my comment said anything about acceptance. There's nothing to accept and no one doing any accepting. Those are just thoughts arising and being claimed to be accepting something when the truth of the matter is that's another illusion. There's no free will and choice but only within the dream of separation.

@Keryo Koffa you want a tip, learn Angamardana from isha-sadhguru and try doing it in nature. Gets you in literal Infinity Bliss, is literally heaven. Best thing I´ve learned ever. That is a very good question. What prevents me is the karmic software Im attached to. Sadhana îs the way to dismantle all entanglement of memory until effectively, you dissolve into pure bliss. As long as the focus is straight, we will get there in this lifetime.

If this is true, what determines how one is feeling, Bliss or Misery, are we just Sailboats in the wind, going by where the wind wants us to go, or are we able to invent a "rudder" and learn to use the power of the wind to direct us where we want to go?? Before my Mom died she suffered Depression, as many ppl do nowadays, it was a constant thing, so i realized then and there that if ppl can feel depressed on a consistent daily basis, they can as well feel Bliss or Happiness on a daily basis, its just with Bliss its more life empowering than depression... If Misery is possible in the Absolute, then Bliss is possible, why are these possibilities available to us, for us to just let it all happen as Absolutes Will or are we able to do that ourselves, all is Possible in the Absolute, the only thing is can we determine how we experience Life, imo Yes we can that is why we are here, its the same argument back and forth.. Ppl label You an Absolutist, or Non Dualist for this reason, that is what is means to be those labels, and its half correct.. Analysing Your posts, which is what happens when we read what others write and make a judgement, I would say Your in a stage of Absolute Acceptance of What is, Sadhguru call this "This moment is Inevitable", nothing can be done about it to change what already is, other than Accepting or not Accepting, with Acceptance Your more available to the possibility of the next moment, with non Acceptance You are not available to it, your trapped and enslaved by the past, that is all. With this its not an intellectual formula to try to figure out, Acceptance has to be natural, as a Realization that Existence as it is right Now (where Life is found!) is just as it is, stressing over it makes things worse...This is one of the steps to realizing that as Human Beings we have Free Will, that is another reason why we are here to work this out in everyday life and live to our highest possibility... Yes these are just words, makes no difference one way or another, but sometimes words do make change or at the least are the start of change...

Blissed out? What do you mean blissed out? That's just the mind. The body cannot handle being blissed out. The body's mechanism is designed for survival and reproduction. It's the mind that wants to be blessed out. The body doesn't care about your bliss. States are short lived. Any longer and you'll end up in the looney tune. That's where depression and anxiety come in. It's the need to hold unto that blissful state and the need to be happy more than the body can handle. Notice your happiness is short lived. The reason your happiness is shorter than your sadness is because thoughts are more negative than positive. Either way they are only sensations. Sensations are felt because the identifier thinks it's theirs. It's just sensations arising but because of that energy that thinks it's separate, everything that comes with it is owned. You can have a blissful experience but it doesn't last long because of it's nature. These are arising out of nothing and goes back to nothing. Energy in motion. Claimed by the individual in it's dream state. Bliss is bliss, doesn't need a claimer.