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@Hardkill The 80s had the AIDS epidemic and people like Fauci was the one that spreaded the fake news that gay men get AIDS easier. Socially things were worst back in the 80s and 90s for people but economically better because 5-10 years of hard work would allow someone to pay off their home while now its 30 years. I don't think there has been ever a year where wars don't exist, people were just less exposed so they weren't aware of the injustice in the world. Spiritually there are more awakened people today than the last 30+ years. Now novice meditators can do a week long retreat and actualize. In the 90s and early 00s, only a handful of people awakened. Today a poor kid from a village in India, Vietnam etc can learn to program and get a 6 figure income within 10 years. The opportunities around the world have risen while taking away opportunities for people in a place like America. Big Pharma and companies that sell food around the world have centralized now and what people eat so our food is far dirtier and less pure than before. Cancer rates and chronic disease is on the rise because the stuff people are putting in their bodies isn't helping that. So then it becomes really hard to say if things are better or not.

I would say that Leo probably has realized the absolute infinity with psychedelics, but that doesn't matter, for him this is a competition and he will never admit that a rival is right. never. Whatever you do and whatever you say, he is going to look for the weak point, and he is really going to believe that you are deceived and that you are an ugly, stupid and miserable clown, because never, impossible, never, could he say: well yes, osaid, or anyone is awakened, and look, I would say that he has reached deeper levels than me in the spiritual dimension. nor osaid, nor buddha, nor christ nor all the mystics of india together. forbidden. They are all fagots clowns full of shit, seems that he needs that. It's weird, if you really realize the absolute you want that another people realize too, because it's wonderful, you want to share it, and you want that other people go deeper, to get inspired in them . If you really broke your ego, you can't be obsessed about being the best anymore

Now all jokes aside this dialogue was about something much deeper. It was about whether or not you need Love to be awakened. What is your thought? According to the idiot it's all lower states of consciousness...even enlightenment itself.... Do you have any thoughts on the matter or do you just wanna chime in to poke fun?

You are completely deluded. I am not sure if I should even dignify a response here, but I will. I don't have to continue any work because I've awakened to God. There is no more work. Please quote me where i said its not possible to become God realized sober. I simply said its not in your genes- nor is it in Leo's. Nor is it in 99.9 percent of the population. I am special, in that regard, although relative to human Interaction I tend to be a freak.

The meaning of life? If you have awakened - you will know that it is to align yourself as close to God as you can. This means being as selfless and as loving as you can, eliminating all bias. Can you do that? It's quite the challenge - but it's one that you have been given. The Truth is, you will never fully alleviate all bias while in human form. God placed you in an impossible position by design. But it doesn't mean you shouldn't try your best.

Exactly we aren't quibbling over details here. Reality is Love Absolutely. That's it. It's not a concept, it IS LOVE. Hell even NonDual speakers like Tony Parsons doesn't deny this and he loves focusing on the nothing/appearance terms in his communications. If you haven't awakened to love, then you do not know what you are. You have yet to meet yourself and you are looking at yourself all the time lol.

Lol by whose metric? I consider him to be awakened to something. But based on his videos I do not consider him Enlightened.

Hi , I'm getting to be 35 years soon and I'm well down into this stuff for my whole adult life Looking to network with people that are legitimately higher-order consciousness / awakened / tier 2 / MetaCognitive -- whatever you wanna call it. I'm also neurodivergent so I click with people of the same breed Lemme know if you wanna connect , finding advanced / sophisticated people is quite difficult from my experience as its like roughly 0.1%-2% of people it seems

Beauty could be based on memories of your mom or previous interactions with women. Beauty can be based on animal instinct or pheromones. I don't think our goal is to date every girl or love every girl or marry every girl. It is ok to follow your instincts. Let passion blossom and bloom. But if we get awakened or expand our consciousness we should eventually see everyone as ourselves. We are they and they are us. We should have more compassion. But our monkey mind might still take over sometimes. Or we might be in a bad mood some days. It is ok.

Yo fam! Been wondering... for those who consider themselves 'awake', how's that playing out in your "love life"? Awake & Attached: If you're awakened and in a relationship, does it feel like an attachment? Or more like a deeper connection? Love for All: And with this whole 'unconditional love' vibe, does being awake make you more open to things like polyamory? ?‍♂️ Riding Solo: Any awakened peeps choosing the single life? Was that a choice post-awakening? Super curious about your takes! Shoot! ??

Hello all, Europe and the West seems almost sabotaged and retarded by Christianity due to its concretization of heaven and hell and a patriarchal god and waiting for physical death and heaven and eternity with god. The Christian dogma actually prevents Buddhahood or awakening. I would assume Eastern nations and cultures would have a head start on awakening and bliss and higher levels of consciousness. Is this true? Are Eastern cultures more advanced spiritually or maybe their humanity is deeper? Are there more awakened people in the East? Is Western dominance over the globe only material in nature while the East is dominating spiritually and passively? Why the disparity between East and West? Why does the West seem more "successful?" The East has had time on their side and a longer incubation period. Or did I simply imagine World History so I could revolt against the majority Christian establishment and embrace an esoteric path chosen by a small minority of people? A somewhat related question is why educated, intelligent, wealthy people do not pursue enlightenment in greater numbers? Why aren't they sadhus, mendicants, and aesthetics? And why weren't the Gnostics and hermetics more successful? Thanks

There is nothing than the Absolute, only the Absolute, containting its manifestation. The other beings/perspectives can also only be this One Reality. And that there is Awareness in them as their essence, and that this is the One Pure Impersonal Awareness, is a direct realization available in certain awakened nondual states. That is enough! The "other" human beings are not non-player-characters. The feel the same as you. There essence IS you. And the other way round. This non-euclidian space vision Leavitt had is the way Reality can communicate this insight. A teaching tool communicated by Reality itself. Way better than Solipsism + all others are non-player-characters. That is just not the case. They are all the ONE Player, appearing as many. Leavitts vision is not the defining factor necessary to verify that other beings/perspectives ARE the same Impersonal Pure Awareness. The defining factor is Enlightenment, as described above. That is no belief-system, but a direct realization. As I wrote, take the Leavitt Picture of the non-euclidian space of perspectives/Indras Net as useful working model. It as a useful pointer to calm the mind on the question of others (the Solipsism belief-system), and practice nonceptual empty impersonal awakened states to get to nondual states and then realize what you are. That will answer the questions. Sure you can turn anything into an belief system. But then one better uses useful pointers or belief system that actually point at the moon to realize the moon. Not pointers pointing to the street-light and realizing then the street-light and thinking its the moon. One doesn't need to understand the workings of a steam machine in order to know its essence: steel. And one will never figure out the workings of Reality in its manifested details. Its infinity. God is busy exploring all of that, forever. If the fascination for figuring out all details of the steam machine fascinates so much that one doesn't realize its essence of Pure Impersonal Awareness (but thinks one has done it, but didn't, and hasn't got nondual awakened states sobre this way) and the essence of each and every possible differently designed steam engine, and suffers in a grasping way for experiencing ever more steam machines because one is bored or suffers because one hasn't realized ones essence.... Very actualized, indeed.

@Fountainbleu . Life is better in every way from an awakened state. Before that, you needed hundreds of evasion strategies to face life, since it was not really possible to face death. We really live in a psychotic state, that is why it is said that enlightenment is the end of suffering, because it is the end of resistence to the now. Furthermore, from an awake/open/enlightened state, there is inspiration, one knows which path to follow, where to rectify. You direct the path because you are one with reality, you flow, and wherever that takes you is where you were meant to go.

No, directly realizing the essence of their being/Awareness in nondual states is enough. No need to read the content of minds or mindstreams. The content of the mindstream is not the awareness itself. Structure/Essence vs. content. Like I wrote, that is part of the Nondual Realization, and can not be described with words. Please see my last post. The picture is (maybe) just a help to understand (before the Nondual Realization) that others are really You. I can not communicate more with words. It needs Awakened Nondual States, there is no way around it.

Reification (what you call concretization) is a problem in all religions and cultures at all levels of spiritual development. Getting rid of reification is the last step in the journey of spiritual awakening, even most awakened people are unconsciously reifying some concepts.

On an Absolute Level, yes. But in my opinion pushing that concept is not helpful because it will just lead to ego=God inflation on the way up to the mountain summit. On the way up the mountain one wants to transcend the ego/separate-self (aka cut each and any arising constituting the separate-self off before it elaborates/fully rises in Awareness). Inflating the ego/separate-self and its narcissism is the opposite of that. That just stops the ascend, or generating Awakened Nondual States. And on the mountain summit its obvious anyway. One doesn't need this concept on the path up the summit in any way, as all meditation system align on.

Here he is referring not to Leo/gross level of reality (this world), but to higher subtle/lower causal states where manifestation works like that. From the perspective of Reality/"God", if one is inclined to call it that) it works indeed like that. And as Leo also already found out, it doesn't work on the Leo-Level of Indras Net like that, or else the million dollar would already be on the bank-account. Or why the camera didn't capture the Alien: Because the totality of Indras Net overpowers with its will/manifestation/imagination-process the will of the little Leo-Node in it. When one becomes (Unity-state) the whole net of Indra, of course one wants exactly what Indras Net (the manifested Totality of Infinite Consciousness) wants at this moment: This world manifested/imagined exactly as it is(!), with strigent laws of manifestation (physical, biological, psychological, spiritual/Karma and so on) with no million dollar on the bank account by wishful thinking. And if one would still want the million dollars (egoic arising), one wouldn't be in a Unity State with Indras Net! It is just one huge assumption that these insights and higher subtle/lower causal states (Union with the Totality of Indras Net) can not be had on the meditation/mystic path. Or in a more pure/impersonal way on the psychedelic path when combining it with more ego/separate-self transcendence/meditation. Why? Because Absolute Reality is IMPERSONAL, or in other words PURE Infinite Consciousness/Awareness. It is these ego/separate-self arisings/filters/lensen that kill the awakened nondual state in normal sobre-ego-state, and it is these filters/ego-lenses that get mostly lifted (not totally) in the psychedelic state, and on top one gets the nondual infinite experiences/states, and many Awakenings n+1 of all different kinds. All disfigured and partly misinterpreted by these last remainings lensens/filters of ego/separate-self in the psychedelic experience. All of that also has the hallmark of confusing remaining separate-self/ego remains/lenses with Impersonal Pure Consciousness/Reality itself (the higher subtle, lower causal levels (Indras Net) and Impersonal Infinite Consciousness itself). Why? Because with psychedelics one gets these states "for free" without paying the "normal" price of ego-transcendence before. So of course one perceives all of these states through the lenses of the not completly transcended ego. And one doesn't even "see" or realize this lense of perception, because one is still identified with it, sees "through" it. Because if one would be aware of that, it would be already gone&transcended. And that is why Leo totally sincerly makes the claims he does. He can't see the lenses that block nondual awakened states sobre, and he can't see these lenses through which he interprets all of these state-experiences and Awakenings. And that then results in the Infinity of Gods Videos, which sould have better been called an Infinity of God-Egos. The last ego/separate-self mechanisms/lenses/filters are extremely subtle and hard to spot. Very subtle arisings that are formless (not coarse thoughts or feelings) and create the illusion that one is not already all of Reality. It takes a long time in certain awakened nondual states to get rid of these towards Pure Impersonal Infinite Nondual Consciousness. It is these subtle arisings that don't let one see (or bask in) the True Absolute State of Awakened Infinite Nondual Reality in the first place in sobre states. Selling (Impersonal/Pure Awareness) Water by the (Infinite Impersonal) River

Perfectly. The Infinite Intelligence that constructed the former illusory separate-self now runs the show. The small separate self just gets out of the way. The Intelligence of Reality itself can run the show on a relative level way better when the filter/distoration of the separate-self-illusion (of being not the whole Enchilada but only a separate-self fragment in it) is gone. At least my experience. Besides, one gets for the first time a real shot at cutting off the negative emotions that regularly arise as a necessary building block of any separate-self (to keep it busy chasing experiences to get good emotions to easy the suffering/bad emotions, aka as keeping the illusion going). Imagine you could just produce your own bliss by resting in a nondual impersonal uncontracted state of awakened awareness, and just let the relative self do its job/daily life without interfering? Runs by itself, way better than before. I believe it is way better to have ones relative life sorted out (as much as possible) before crossing over. The chance is high that crossing over will only happen when the relative stuff is more or less sorted out and handled. And the separate-self is not squeaking in suffering all the time because its lower levels of manifestation (emotional needs, safety needs, job, relationships and so on) are more or less sorted out. One tends to continue exactly as before on a relative level/habits, but the fear-driven motivations drop away. Imagine that you needed fear-driven emotions before to keep your relative life going, and not doing it out of self-actualization. Then there can be quite some havoc if the fear-based-motivations (like fear of loosing job or fear of being lonely) drop away. Or: The cave. Or Eckhart Tolles 2 years on a park bench. I prefer an integrated life. Not that Enlightenment needs it. After waking up from the dream, one can still have a lucid nightmare or a beautiful lucid dream.

I wasn't specifically asked, but allow me this comment: BOTH, meditation and psychedelics, is probably the fastest path for most. But there are dangers, and an obvious danger ist downplaying the meditation-part, or getting ego=God delusion via psychedelics. Psychedelics give the nondual awakened states for free (and a lot of other stuff), without much emptyting out the separate-self/ego-mechanism towards the Impersonal/Pure Awareness side. And Reality/True Self is Pure Impersonal Awareness. With meditation, before one gets to nondual awake states, the separate-self is already emptied out ~95%+. One already is very(!) proficient cutting each and any thought/feeling arising of the separate self/ego, and any other concept/thought on top of that also. And the awakened states still get hijacked by the remaining 5% ("enlightened person"), but there is much less potential for ego=God inflation because there is less of it left in the first place than on the mainly psychedelic path.

Very true. What Leo doesn't get - and will not get until he is truly fully enlightened (which will probably need some major humbling down/character change and meditation practice, and for starting that probably some really major suffering): In Full Enlightenment: it is understood (or available all the time) how the complete(-!-, each and any possible) illusion is constructed and what its essence is (oneself, Suchness). What the essence of each and any illusion-mechanism is. He thinks the enlightened beings "tell" themselves the story that they are enlightened, or have thought arisings like that.. and are still deluded doing that. Which of course is a joke for an enlightened being, because all of that blabla is seen as object-thoughts floating in ones Infinite True Self, besides which nothing can exist. Exactly that is the pre-requisite for Full Enlightenment. That all concepts, I-thoughts, I-feeling float in ones True Self, and is not who one really is. Not as idea, but as actual deep realization & reality, that holds in daily life and sobre states. INCLUDING that realization/understanding and its elaboration (if the thought-elaboration of that realization/understanding) happens. It comes with actual nondual states in which the boundlessness/infinite nature of Reality, and its character as mere appearance of any possible object/arising/thought/feeling/world is vividly clear as arisings/manifestations in ones True Infinite Self. Which is ones own TRUE BEING, which is realized by first BEING it (impersonal,nondual, infinite, mere appearance), and then asking/Koan what is "beyond" that/what is that/what is aware of that/what is constant in all of that. But Leo can't understand that, because he doesn't have these states sobre with impersonal empty awareness, but only with psychedelics where remnants of the separate-self are still active as lenses/filters/centers/identities. These prevent Full Enlightenment. On the classic path of meditation one only gets to these nondual states by already severely emptying out the separate-self/identity towards being largely impersonal/empty. And the rest gets kicked and emptied out in these nondual infinite awakened states. That doesn't happen in psychedelic nondual states to the same high degree (magnitudes lower), and that is why the true (nondual and so on) Awakenings later get hijacked by ego. One gets the nondual states for free without paying the empty/impersonal/ego-transcendence price. And that backfires... He truly believes that a full enlightened being has falling for the delusion of identifying/thinking of himself as enlightened. Which indeed would be a delusion, and that often happens after some smaller enlightenments. Thats the true part to the story (nobody is smart enough to be wrong all the time). With Full Enlightenment, it is absolutely clear that this move is one more idiotic delusion-mechanism ("the enlightened person") on top, and even that has to go. Together with each and all mistaken identity/I-thought/I-feeling arisings. And THAT understanding/realization is final. It brings bliss, peace and freedom from fear. It shows ones true immortality, and the essence of each and any (alien-, n+1) realm. And that essence is Ones True Self. There is no other, in any and each realm, never possibly could be. That is all manifestation/relative stuff/mechanisms/realms. There also was no one really confused and ignorant, just the illusion-arising of that happening. There CAN'T be any other higher Awakenings/Realizations than that. Only more Awakenings/Insights into more understanding of manifestation mechanisms of various realms, or these (alien for example) realms themselves. Of which there is (the bummer) an Infinity of them. Which God is exploring. Forever and ever and ever. And Leo has hijacked Gods job of doing that (as a mere mortal), has become addicted to it to ease his suffering, and is now suffering for ever more of that wonderful blissful Awakenings (they are beautiful, but still passing) in a grasping way. And selling this as path to salvation. Bravo, well done! Instead of chasing Porsches, Yachts and Villas, we chase AWAKENED STATES and understandings into Alien Realms, N+1. I would have no problem with him doing that for himself until wising up. But he is promoting and selling this to partly young & vulnerable beings which risk crashing their life on a relative level (education/professional career/friends/relationships) by doing unhealthy transdence (grasp for the higher + dislike/disassociate/neglect from the lower levels of being = opposite of healthy development which is defined as transcend and include and integrate, and not transcend and disassociate/dislike/hate (the relative, including humanity) and no integration - anybody seen this with Leo?!). That is the direct path to sick development, instead of healthy development/growth. So, then some little predictions from my side: The enlightened ones will never change their position on these points of Full Enlightenment. Because a) self-evident and b) final. And apparently a few ones are already haunting this lovely forum. Leo will probably not accept that until he himself is fully enlightened, or being severly humbled by suffering. Since he is not even aspiring or keeping the possibility of Full Enlightenment in an open-minded way (which is the cardinal sin in spirituality), he will go chasing higher Awakenings until being severely humbled up, probably by severe suffering & crash burn. Or he will just continue in grasping, seeking and suffering ways for ever higher Awakenings, and act the "lovely" way he does as ONLY AWAKE BEING on the planet. And just act more or less narcissistic and inflate his Ego as God. Like in ONLY ONE AWAKE ON THE PLANET, instead of the less insane (but also illusory) MOST AWAKE of everyone he knows of. He needs to belittle Full Enlightenment to keep his perspective of the superiority of ever more AWAKENINGS n+1 going. Which is a fulminant cul-de-sac preventing further growth towards real impersonal (non-narcicisstic, non-ego) Full Enlightenment. And its not the first time that the psychedelic-only path has been tried. It never worked. Here is Ken Wilbers comment on it: "The downside comes with people that only use psychedelics or drugs and I found that over the years they just become mean. That if somehow it just kind of closes them down. It's like you keep doing it and you keep doing it you keep doing it doesn't quite cause the transformation it can cause a peak experience but generally not a transformative experience". Sounds familiar? Water by the .... River!

@De Sade then think so, but if you are honest it's just mental masturbation and you know nothing. You create your own theory about reality with your limited brain and reading your comments is funny because I can see through your comment that you just intellectualize and conceputalize about some other who intellectualize and conceputalize who have it from someon who really awakened. How about really experience for yourself whats true? And then based on that you can intellectualize?

Some people are either permanently in a state or can enter a state where there are no ego boundaries and no mental noise/ego beliefs to interfere with effecting the general consciousness (i.e. of "others.") Stigmata is easily explained the same way any psychosomatic symptoms are explained: the mind is powerful enough to effect physical changes. It's just in one case it's pathological and unwanted and in the other it's acceptable and even desired. I don't think so. Some people who have siddhis are not enlightened. Certainly for some siddhis you just need to temporarily know how to enter a state, you don't need to be permanently in that state. At a certain point in the awakening process, the religious belief drops away, as training wheels eventually come off a bicycle. One is awakened to reality in a manner that supercedes any kind of conceptual beliefs, which are intended for those who still have an I-thought, so require the balancing counter-concept of the divine/God. Religion is a valuable tool on the way to completed awakening, but it's a means to an end, not the end.

Thinking something an awakened person might be experiencing doesn't make you awakened. You still act at the level of consciousness you are. Conceptual understanding is "fake awakening."

She's partly awakened and somewhat based when it comes to intersexual dynamics, so I guess that raises her above a vast majority of content providers. Being quite above "normal people" is not a high bar to clear these days, which is kind of sad. A "normal person" isn't remotely close to being stabilized in nonduality Stage 1, e.g., so that automatically puts you in the 1%, and probably even the 0.1%.

Yes, this is just my intuition. but it goes a long way. When i feel it coming on, it is the Love of God washing over me, it is Pure Being. But it never goes to a full non-dual state of mystical consciousness anymore, because I've already awakened. So my intution tells me that one day there will be a permanent awakening. If you do not understand what I am talking about it is because you are not genetically gifted. Do not take that as a bad thing, you are just in the same arena as Leo. You have to rely on psychedelics to bring you to mystical states of consciousness - but it will not be the same as a natural awakening. Nothing ever could be.