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Too many back and forths. Too many contradictions. Too many different ideas and concepts. Too many ebb and flows. Too many mixing of the Absolute and the Relative which causes confusion. We speak in both terms simultaneously and it becomes a loop. We speak dually and non-dually in the same sentences. We have turned it into a Religion. We are arguing amongst ourselves based on our own belief systems, not based on Truth. What is Truth. Truth is Absolute. That which is the case. What is relatively true for you might not be true for me and we can't see from another's perspective because that is what it means to be an individual. I'm not concerned anymore about Awakening and Enlightenment. I'm going to focus on understanding how the mind works, the quantum field, quantum mechanics, the Truth about who I AM and understanding the nature of Reality. Not if I'm awake or not, not if I'm enlightened or not. Not beliefs, concepts and ideas about Reality but it's substance. The Tree of Life. Sacred Geometry. Quantum entanglement. I may not know, nor will I know everything, nor do want to. I'm not even trying to find peace and happiness and joy and running away from mental pain and suffering, because all of that will be a by-product of understanding my true nature. Curiosity. Understanding and embodying is more enlightening than trying to become what I already am. So, figuring that out and learning about that is what I'm more focused on than if shit is imaginary or not, if I'm the only consciousness or not. I am a Spiritual being and it is what I'm in love with. I'm in love with all of existence. I'm in love with Reality. I'm in love with the Universe. I'm in love with love itself for Love's sake. Not for what it can bring or give me. I've passed the stage of trying to find anything. There is nothing lost. There is nothing "out there" to be found. I wouldn't have existed otherwise. I wouldn't have gone through my experiences if it wasn't meant to be. I didn't choose to come here to forget everything just to remember anything. There is no reason for me to exist other than for existence's sake. No me, no world. Why am I trying to Awaken so I can see the Truth of what I already am. Whatever that is. Why am I trying to become Enlightened. A rose doesn't try to become a rose. It just is. I will continue to do Spirituality because I enjoy it, not for some means of becoming Awakened or Enlightened. Just like I enjoy cooking. I don't have to cook, I can go out to eat, to sustain my body, but I do it for the enjoyment of creation. To create a meal. Just because I can. For the art of creating. I watch movies because I can. To see others' creations. So, to be clear, i will still enjoy this forum, I will still post and comment. I will still engage, but only for it's sake and take from it what I chose or not. Not to go back and forth on some Spiritual mumbo jumbo and asking questions about Awakening or Enlightenment because it is futile. I will continue to read whatever books I choose, watch whatever videos and podcasts I choose, for it's own sake and to get better understandings on subjects I choose to expand on and what interests me as an individual. I will also keep in the background running, that whatever I chose to engage in, that it doesn't change who I am existentially and will not allow any belief systems, ideologies, world views or identities I've chosen to become, to make me forget that. That will be my primary focus, to acknowledge the presence already within me and to live my life from that place and to recognize that I cannot be what I can observe and that I am none of it but what is unfolding and manifesting from within that presence. Experiencing bliss and joy is also an appearance that is temporary and my true nature is also the witness of those states. Every experience and temporary feelings and emotions are also being witnessed as is the experience of becoming Awakened and or Enlightened. All of it.

The basis of awakening, of living an awakened life, is leaving time. There is a moment in life, perhaps around the age of 12,13,14, that you begin to see life as a temporary process, and not as an in-depth approach. Little by little this takes on a dimension, you begin to have an idea of yourself as an entity that moves in time. This entity accumulates data every day, until it takes on a solid dimension, which overrides the deep focus and veils it. There comes a time, without realizing it, when you are outside. You do not flow with life but rather you are a few meters above classifying it. All this mental activity could be classified as an illness if it weren't for the fact that almost everyone processes this way. The causes are social interaction, language, the conceptualization of reality in order to function as a collaborative hive organism where each gear is in its place. an evolutionary work of art that creates things like spacial trips or atomic energy . A manifestation of the intelligence of the cosmos that, like all its other manifestations, is genius, art and perfection. but this is built with some foundations, some bases, that are the primordial mud of the evolutionary jungle of life, and life is absolutely ruthless, its consideration towards what it creates is the same as that of an engineer with a machine: it must work, it doesn't matter how. and once it works, then he treats the machine well, he doesn't force it to work too hard, he loves it and enjoys it, but if it is necessary to tighten, it is tightened, if parts have to be forced until they break, it is done. Well, time is a dimension in which life puts us so that we fulfill a function, but it has a problem: it is a dead, false dimension, a mental virus necessary for the software to work. This dimension, once it starts, grows in a cancerous, exponential way. In a few years since it began, humans live in a psychotic dimension, we are prisoners of the matrix, robots with permanently running software. In some cases, quite often, this software is dissonant, full of cracks, hidden areas, anger, fear, hatred, shame, lies. a real party. This same software, at a given moment becomes aware of itself and says: yes, ok, but this is unbearable shit, a disease. I am a disease. Then, the self sets itself a titanic task: getting out of itself. cross a door that really is him. If you want to cross that door, you must deactivate time, since time is your essence. Without time the self disappears, since time is its dimension. To deactivate time, the self must begin to release ballast, stop comparing, analyzing, judging, fearing. quite a challenge since the foundations of the self are solid, otherwise it would not have the irresistible drive that it has. breaking the self is breaking a work of life engineering, it is not a small thing that is done, it is a serious achievement. It is life shaping itself, and this is always through challenge. Life wants you to deactivate the self at a given moment. You are called to it, if it were not so, you would not be trying. once you achieve the complicated maneuver of opening the self, first just a moment, them more often, the self start changing completely, the software continues to exist, there is still a controller, but it knows that it is software, it goes into the background, it begins to stop progressively letting more space to the real, to reverse the process that originated it and make a change . then it seems that the self begins to be a kind of mirror. begins to reflect reality, and to find attractive the idea of merging with reality and disappearing completely.

This forum won't awaken you, especially since there are many non-awakened people pretending to know what they are talking about. If you want to awaken the fastest way to create a STATE change. You can create a state change through many different ways. Chakra music combined with intense meditation, psychedelics, long hours of solo contemplation, sensory deprivation chambers, sleep deprivation, fasting, near-death experience, and many more other methods I haven't listed and are not aware of. Nothing can replace awakening. Awakening reveals the mystical aspect of reality, it reveals you to be PURE CREATIVITY, LOVE, AND TRUTH. There is no dialog, no activity that can replace this. It's the most beautiful thing to experience, and its wasted on waiting at the end of your human life, it's better to do it now and master being able to access that state sober. THEN you can live as God in human form. Anything else is not pushing you towards God embodiment which many on these forums are going to push you towards. You cannot intellectually achieve this, again I repeat you MUST create a state change. Ignore the people on these forums who are just hear for drama. They will wear you out and confuse you if you are trying to awaken. If you want to awaken more than anything else YOU WILL. Don't let anyone tell you that you cannot, don't listen to them talk about genetics. Genetics change (look up epigenetics) and what you do CAN and WILL change your genetics. Again you MUST create a state change. Anyone else that argues this has no clue what they are talking about. Create a state change with a pure intention to awaken and enjoy the experience. Then work to make it permanent (YOU CAN) through deep meditation from that state until your body's chemistry becomes a living psychedelic. That's it!!

"I am the most awakened guy around" is like saying "I am the wettest wave on the surface of the ocean".

@Leo Gura How to deal with this part since it is very shocking and i have trouble with this? What are the next actions? I know i can imagine right now and tell myself that consciousness always stabillizes to comfort myself but how to deal with this and comfort my own heart. Also 1 more question, if you have awakened past this part and solipsism what are your next actions or what do you plan to do, does this part also bother you? At the highest level i have seen that we actually want to dumb ourselves down as a remedy against the eternal presence, and then after a while i found a quote of ma ananda and she also said that ego is just a remedy

I liked that. That's the whole point. I've awakened to awakening and have freed myself from the mumbo jumbo of it all. I just am and will always be that.

Oh there is a point to awakening, but you have to experience it to understand it. I can tell you about a human, you can even live among them and understand them intellectually, but it is totally different if I MADE YOU A HUMAN. Awakening is like that, you BECOME fully the creator. Then you will absolutely know. So there is a point to it all. You can talk about the absolute, or you can awaken and BE THE ABSOLUTE. When you are in a non-awakened state you are the relative part of the Absolute.

Close your eyes, create an image in your mind, make that image move. For example picture a bird as an image, now make that bird fly. Now open your eyes, and realize that bird was just a projection of your consciousness. Now your physical body, is also a projection. Can you feel the bird you just imagined is equally as imaginary as your physical body? When you can do this, THEN you have awakened.

This is somehow sadder than any of my relatives dying. Some force of positive change died with him which is not awakened in many of us. He was up against too much. He sacrificed his personal pleasures for this life of inprisonment and torture. I don't think people underestand what it really means. Thank you, Alexei, for speaking up for all of those who didn't want to have this life, but somehow we have to continune. I feel like we, the people who tend to think more freely, are next, although it feels that it was just an isolated incident, he was not the first one and will not be the last one killed by the Kremlin. RIP, I hope you find any existential relief, thank you for the bottom of my heart.

Hey Leo, I hope you are having a great day. I have to say that I’ve being devouring your content this past year. It helps me a lot in developing different perspectives as well as having multiple epiphanies in my life. However, there’s one perspective that particularly piques my interest: the perspective of a self- actualized individual. The reason it is so appealing to me is because so little people have actually reached self-actualization. There’s a limited range of resources available to us so we can only stipulate when we are asking ourselves—people who haven’t reached self-actualization—what is like being one. While watching your episode “How Fear Works,” I’ve asked myself: “If Leo was to be kidnapped one day, would he feel anxiety and fear while waiting for his next torture session?” Unsurprisingly, I am very much afraid of being kidnapped and tortured which explains why I would have such a question in mind. One thing led to another, and I started asking myself how different the public’s view of self-actualized people is from yours. Which leads me to have a set of questions: 1) Would you actually feel fear while waiting for your next torture session? Or in other words, is fear and anxiety things that self-actualized people permanently transcended, no matter the hardships? 2) Are awakenings permanent states? More precisely, what aspects of life are permanently changed? What aspects aren’t permanently changed? 3) Is there a disconnection between the biological creature that is Leo and the self-actualized being? If so, why bother even live an external life? Why bother make money? Why bother have sex? 4) Is it a detachment or a destruction of the biological creature? Is the biological creature still there as it can feel aversive emotions but the actualized being can “cage” that biological creature (detachment)? Or is the creature not there anymore, leaving the actualized being at the unshared seat of experience? 5) How can we be sure that self-actualization is not just another stage of delusion? If the only premise that I can hold as true is that I experience something (cogito ergo sum), what to say that my awakening is not one of the many illusions of life just accompanied by Conviction Bias? I don’t believe you are Leo as I love to trust my intuition, but, knowing that you are aware of the many biases that plague us, how can you trust your experience of self-actualization? I hope you'll find time to read this and thank you in advance. P.S. I had already posted these questions but received no answers. I'm still as confused as I was 10 days ago so I would love to read your take on this Leo.

It depends if we are speaking on a subjective level or an objective level. From a subjective perspective, or a relative point of view, if you have not fully awakened and merged Everything. Then there exist others who are not awake, to reflect back to you, what it is that you are missing. From an objective and Absolute level, as you said, all the dualities have collapsed, Everything is One. And there is no separation between self and other. There is only what Is, neither asleep or awakened. Nothing to compare, because Everything is the same. Perspective vanishes, no world.

@PenguinPablo The cosmic joke turns out being that "nobody knows or becomes awakened because awakening is not an action or linear event in time for a real person. Rather its the clear recognition that this important "ME" character attempting to attain some kind of mind based enlightenment experience, is completely not real. Its an illusion of self....Maya!!! 😮 That's the real freedom that's being sought after but only by an illusion! It turns out that the very notion of actually knowing something is the real illusion or Matrix. And that is even just apparent stories 🤣 ❤️

Sister Cody. He awakened from his long deep years of suffering. He transforms his experience into art, leaving a message. His style of teaching is bright and warm. I leave a post example below for you to know. https://www.instagram.com/sistercody/ www.artoflovingnow.com/product-page/the-light-still-exists-tee

Well I think when u experience your total self and see oh boy...there is no one, what a game it all was.... When the only thing that exists is Yourself....and no one to see,hear, touch ,feel and experience.... As if they never were.... But a way to fill with void within... The void of loneliness of the total self.. To busy itself with imaginary beings ,thankfully it has ability to do so... Imagine if it didn't had imagination, nothing would exist except mind.... But that void of loneliness when u are alone locked within Yourself and this void and nowhere to go... Maybe then u realize...I AM everything... In itself consciousness contains infinite information of infinite realities like codes within and found out a way to manifest his preexisting knowledge into experience based reality.... It found a way in that void ,crazy isn't it... Do u know how one mind alone in nothingness can figure a way out to... Manifest his imagination in form out of nothing..that's crazy... I believe going to total self will awakened that knowledge too... How to make 2d hologram experienced as reality that's how this infinite experience is possible in space/time.... This knowledge of creating bubble of existence isn't in human awareness right now... Do u know then if u close your eyes.. How to consciously manifest infinite universes running on their own and causing Yourself to forget.... Within Yourself consciously.. How to create this setup... This knowledge is in total self... I think when u see u are only one alone being till eternity... U can never be with other, since no other exists till eternity alone... This fact is powerful... Or maybe when u realize life was never that serious... The element of serious makes dream reality strong to believe in... ....so what if life isn't about awakening.. Because whether u are awakened or not... U will still one day become total self it's inevitable outcome....and realize and experience who u truly are,then u don't need to ask from another,u will self realize I AM everything in your absolute state of existence... Nothing changes that fact... But still it's all handy information for understanding... So it's better to be open to any unique new knowledge understanding of reality...

that’s one interpretation, but to me, the belief (and that’s all it is, I don’t claim to be awakened) in immortality has the opposite effect. in my life, it means that unresolved issues are going to follow me to the next life, because death isn’t an easy escape.

Let's imagine you are awakened via psychedelics. I mean only for 'awakening' / 'god realization' It's not a topic against usage. It's a topic to speak on going beyond the usage of drugs. For people not interested in it. That's fine. Let's be practical for the interested: what's in it then, after you meet god and yourself there is no need to go further. You're not different from an alcoholic if that's for free 'pleasure' If you are into it for relative reasons it's fine. ( But it might just be addiction disguised as path by the ego ) like all weed addicts. ( "It makes me sharp" etc.. ) Here is my very counter view : you are burning your receptors/brain. ( No need to go metaphysical on me. Your 'brain' is real in a certain way ) We can't measure it and might never do but still you can still feel apparent causality. So here is my experience and why I feel I need to never do them again by myself, or at least never been looking for it. ( Lol well aight this was a joke ) So I feel like on the topic of safety. Like all 'good things' you'll have a price to pay. At the pure body level ( I surely agree it can be very good for mental and paradigm healing ) but let's talk pure physics. You can argue it's not toxic. But then Xanax and alcohol aren't either. You take Xanax for anxiety : you quit you more anxious. Take psychedelics for X : you quit and it makes you more X Maybe you don't agree but I barely believe in free heat. We got no idea what is mitigated by serotonin 2A receptor (5-HT2AR). The heart alright but how does it play on your health and vibration to deregulate it. Psychedelics aren't toys and no play and not here for any enjoyment is my point. I suspect like weed the come down is extremely delayed might even be months after your last intake. Your brain truly quit weed only 3 months after the last intake. Before this, it's the first phase. So psychedelics might also takes months to show you the real withdrawal. I suspect 6-8 months. But mental healing can have occured and you'll be in a better place. But still I'm talking pure physics here. So you shall not do psychedelics more than once a year and if you are enlightened unless you have some serious reasons like science it's not worth it to keep adding false sugar. Your 'meditation' will be stronger and everything can be done through better means. Don't get attached to the past tools evolve.

For those who have awakened, and now experience reality from a non-dual perspective, what advice would you give to yourself still suck in duality. How would you describe the new experience to your past self. Other thoughts?

I have a question for y'all enlightened folks out there. Perhaps this is just a paradox that I can't grasp yet... but wouldn't strengthening the ego through personal development make it harder to awaken? For example, knowing your core values, studying your personality type, developing hobbies, pursuing a life purpose and any other domain of self discovery, aren't these things all building up the ego? Strengthening the self image? And by developing the self (ego) wouldn't that contradict the whole self destruction process of realizing no self/enlightenment and make the process harder? Like you're walking in opposing directions at the same time? I'm simultaneously building myself up just to break myself down and it's fucking with my mind. Pls halp.

I will add something here since tis topic Connects Solipsism with Ontological Nihilism , even after Leo saying in his Solopsim Video the You will Realise that you are All Alone because you are All Togheter. In my Humble View it means that Solpsism is not reason to Become Nihilistic In This Line I will share the link from the WebSite Perspectiva : this one :https://systems-souls-society.com/ But talking about How our Solopsistic Society (Meaning Individualist) Is not helping Us to make the important Changes we need in Order to Keep Going as Humans. yes , even if you think or Know that this all a dream the true is that the dream can end very bad and very soon, God Create Another Dream up from its Ass, but is good if we engage in Keeping this Dream going on Because, Well, is Great isnt it ? Here is the Excerpt from this Link: https://systems-souls-society.com/the-solipsistic-society/ You can click directly in the link if the text looks interesting to you "Solipsism should not be conflated with selfishness in the pejorative sense. Solipsism deals with the problem of the self being trapped in the self by the self in a kind of perpetual self-reference. This closed loop can lead to the collective belief that only individual perception, thoughts, and experience can be known to exist and therefore to be considered real. Solipsism can be grouped into two categories, one dealing with reality directly and the other with the knowledge of reality. The first is ontological and says only the self is real where the other is epistemological and says that only the self is knowable. However subtle these distinctions are philosophically; my focus is practical: on how societal solipsism is reproduced through collective self-perpetuating beliefs and how we can approach moving beyond our predicament. A solipsistic society is therefor not a mere collection of self-centered individuals, although that is one view. Instead, it refers to collective beliefs about what is real and possible, as though everyone is wearing an epistemic straightjacket; unable to imagine how things can be known differently and changed. In what follows I don’t want to hang too much on any single definition or variant of solipsism, but I do want to argue that when conceived in a broad sense, the condition of late modernity is solipsistic in a collective sense. The unit of analysis is the social imaginary, which can be taken as our shared psychocultural home and as forming the limits and shape of our collective awareness. It also directs our attention in fixed directions. This is a valuable concept because it speaks to the roots of fundamental problems that underlie many of our collective action problems, our immunity to change,[1] which is compounded by an atrophied faculty of the imagination. The history of Western philosophy also has a long tradition of reality-denying, only taking what can be experienced as real, thereby forming cognitive horizons that make it harder for our imagination to go beyond. The widely quoted claim that it is ‘easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism’ captures the problem of societal solipsism and the constraints the system puts around our imagination well.[2] We like to think we are free, but we are also kept entranced in this dream we call reality, from which we are now being rudely awakened by the really Real, which reasserts itself as the manifestations of the Metacrisis.[iii] I propose some domains of inquiry that I believe can bring us closer to a right relationship with Reality, which is not only something concrete like nature or physical matter, but equally truths of constant flux, change and creative dynamism and outcomes of our evolutionary history we have no choice but to embody. Stuckness can only persist by denying these truths, but continuing to do so limits discovering ways forward and prevents us from moving into futures we desire or away from ones we want to avoid. The opposite of stuckness is what I call ‘collective unfolding’. If we accept that in the West, we are in the process of losing our current, late-modern social imaginary as our stable home, as it is now appearing to liquify under the reassertion of the Real and pressures of the manifold crises, then we’ll have to learn to be in right relationship with reality’s inherent change and its patterns of unfolding and decay.

@Osaid I'll take your word for it -- that it is your direct experience or something you're conscious of. I'd say that enlightenment is realizing the nature of what's already true rather than a shift, and it doesn't change anything. The dynamic between self and not-self is present as an invention to some degree for us to function in the relative domain. How could we survive otherwise? Some form of self-identification is there. For example: Why do you wash your car? Who says it is yours? Why wouldn't you try to wash other people's cars? Also, if a chair's leg is broken, you don't consider that it was your leg that got broken. There's a practical reason for that. That points out the fact that you hold your self to be some way. Relatively speaking, you "say" --live as-- that you are here, and not there. This seems to be a basic recognition for survival, and it doesn't have to mean that you conflate your nature with something invented. Enlightened people seem to come in all shapes and sizes. How come they hold different values, interests, traits? One reason might be that they have their own particular way of showing up, and that we might call self. They may have awakened, however there're particular self-aspects and a personality aligned with their respective character. This is an interesting phenomenon. Attachment and fear seem to be related although the former is based on the past. It is about you wanting for a past experience or memory to remain in some form, something you've identified yourself to, or knowledge as you say. Have yet to look deeply into it. These topics are more profound than we are making them out to be, and I think we could be more grounded. Anyway, more work to be done.

This device could in future warn you easily if a car will hit you lol. It is always scanning your environment. It will be more aware of the environment and surroundings than the most awakened man on earth. You can actually experience nature, this device can visualize a 4k flower in your face at any time. With that you can even experience more nature than before. And it will be probably more beautiful than the real flower with all it's dirty and mud it can have. Nature sucks with all these insects, I prefer a clean virtual one with perfect light and color.

Just be careful that this is a distraction from your own awakening. You are the universe and the alien. We are all one. You are god. We do not need to meet aliens. The universe is a mental construct. Let go of all concepts. We should ask if free will exists and if there is a self. But we might as well ask here on this forum or simply ask ourselves. You couod ask to be awakened but only we can awaken ourselves.

If there is a world where everybody is awoken somewhere and sometime in gods infinite mind, is it an amazing world like a utopia where everything is beautiful or is it rather a scary place because everybody knows they are all myself and thus people dont see any meaning in life anymore?

@puporing First of all this is LITERALLY impossible to prove, second of all how could you know that you have reached the highest levels-of- consciousness at all? If you say you have, you could be totally deluding yourself and I would argue YOU ARE. This post just comes off as morally grandstanding that you awakened without psychedelics and that somehow is superior to someone who awakened by psychedelics. Someone who is unbiased, unlike you, wouldn't care, and, in fact, would explore all options instead of blatantly demonizing this method.

I wont bog any of yall down with too many details of how much more "outside the ego" i am lately: lets just say that the spiritual aspect of the lsd trip stuck this time, and I now feel capable of utilizing my brain properly, including much more energy, more clear headed , and able to organize my thoughts in a VERY timely manner . This means i am willing to put in the time and effort it takes to try a variety of approaches in tackling this incredibly peristent problem once and for all. Ever since high school when i used to abuse the shit out of my adderall script and play piano/computer games for 12+ hours a day when i wasnt in school, i developed quite suddenly this pain in my hand and forearms that feels like the very surface layer is being "pulled" in a way that just...hurts.. hard to explain. 5 or 6 years later i developed a similar extremely distressing "tightness" in the middle of my "low" lower back area, near where the uh 2nd chakra is supposed to be (doctors labeled it nonbacterial prostatitis). Then a couple years after that when i was 21 i started getting classic symptoms of tmj. Now heres a small list of additional strangeitudes that i pray will resonate with somebody on this forum .(as if this werent already odd enough!) 1. The pain in all three of these spots comes and goes, sometimes completely at random, but other times for reasons i can trace pretty easily, such as stress and attempting to sit at a computer again for a stretch. 2. This "triangle" of pain is almost always evenly distributed i.e. if my arm hurts really bad the other spots will be fine, and if two spots are lit up at once, it will only be about half as bad 3. I love drugs of all sorts , and ive been cycling through bouts of addiction most of my life. Whenever im on a "run" , where downers such as alcohol and heroin are in the mix, this pain without exception lies almost entirely dormant. Even during intervals in the day where im not high and/or in withdrawal! 4. The importance of the psychological component cannot be stressed enough. Lately i havent even been able to follow along with piano sheet music without my hand flaring up the moment i begin to imagine im playing the notes! Please , all you holistic minded thinkers out there. Give me all that you've got. I need this buried. Ive been bad about starting a lengthy thread in the past and not following up on the advice , but this time i mean business