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If we are all going to god ,why the suffering then why should i bear the shit of other people. Why work hard Why socialize , why do anything

To be honest, there is a lot of misconception about kids and sexual identity. I have worked with such children in training, and a lot of the misconception is based upon ignorance. Yes there are some children who question their sexual identity where it is a symptom of something else. Many of them grow out of it. Health personell rarely addresses it, but in some instances, where the feeling of incongruence between for example body and sexual identity is so extreme that the child is capable of comitting suicide, then they are acting upon it. Only the worst parents arent capable of accepting it. This stuff is real. Like racism, you need to get exposed to what you are ignorant to.

Because you've yet again perfectly articulated the harsh reality of the world that the rest of the world hides from you and themselves. I've been coping by saying to myself that it'll all be good in the end and I will find someone, but through your words I now realize I will most likely never. Even if I get through the bottleneck of healing my brain fog, libido-surpressing panic and anxiety, dysarhtria/apraxia of speech, inflammation and extreme stiffness of neck and mouth, which is a far fucking stretch to begin with, I will still be in a situation where dating is hell simply because I'm not chad, although I'm not ugly either. Since even those starting conditions will probably never be met it's time I face reality like you do, cutting all the fantasies and seeing my situation as it is: I'll be forever alone. Hell, even maintaining a job and communication on the job will be of the utmost difficulty. Even though I have a relatively high IQ and am learning CS and other subjects while at home, and becoming quite advanced at it, in my mind preparing for a life in the future, I've come to the realization that none of those skills matter if you can't communicate and socialize with actual people to work on a job, let alone find a girlfriend or wife. The loneliness, sexlessness, and the physical and mental disability are just becoming too much to bear after 25 years. I've always had hope but now I realize it's just a fantasy I've been holding on to to cope. I'm getting tears in my eyes writing this, since women are truly the most beautiful thing in the world, not only physically but also mentally, and the one time I kissed a girl in high school was literally the best moment of my life. After hs it all fell apart. The only hope I have left is that my symptoms are psychosomatic or somehow caused by spirits or something. Over the last two years, when my symptoms have worsened to the degree I couldn't keep my job and studies, I have had like 10 days where somehow all my energy returned and I could talk normally again, and somehow all my symptoms dissipated, felt great in my body and mind, and I called my friends and had a great time. But the next day that would be all over again, to my disappointment and despair. Since doctors have not been able to find anything it's my only hope to go to some Teal Swan method or some cooky spirit healers. I have suffered sexual abuse in my youth, but it wasn't that bad (not rape) , and in the years after it I didn't have the symptoms I have now that have developed over the last years, so I doubt my symptoms are psychosomatic because of the abuse trauma. Although I don't have much faith in it, I'm still going to try my best. But if everything fails I don't see what I should do in my life. A part of me just wants to murder me for having dissapointed the young buck in me, never having had sex except with a prostitute and now not even be able to do so, and not have related to women and falling behind in life, not having had relationships and real conversations with women. I'm horny all the time which makes it absolutely unbearable to an almost spiritual degree, like rattling a cage from the inside. I've turned to religious ideas to try to find a raison d'etre in some ascetic manner but I don't really see it happening if all that buddhism and sufism stuff is fake anyway and i'm just imagining reality and thats it. Thinking about starving kids etc makes it easier to still feel thankful for my life. But it's just the lovelessness and sexlessness, and absolute lack of female company that just strains me so much, to the point I often don't feel human anymore. Maybe what I will do in the end, is just living ascetically, wandering the world for Truth and taking in the beauty of Gods creation. But I'm afraid I will always feel unworthy in the darwinistic sense, unworthy of human love and far removed from it. and that fear and hate makes me want to kill myself. I no longer really fear hell, although that fear kept me from pursuing suicide in the last few years, I realize it's all based on imagined dogma and dharma by prophets and yogis, who built a moral system for society, but I have absolutely no reason to believe them about the afterlife whatsoever. Although I have an intuition suicide will lead to hell, it's probably just human survival bullshit concocted by the mind. All I really know is that consciousness is immortal, for that is something I have witnessed myself. I'm just going to go on and try everything till I absolutely can't bear it anymore, but I won't delude myself with fantasies anymore, even when those fantasies kept me from ending it all. Thanks for everything Leo.

If god had the desire to, could he somehow stop existing? I've always found the idea of death comforting because an endless life has always seemed tragic to me, and I think if I found out I was god and that I can't die I would find that deeply horrifying.

What would happen is Trump will launch the national guard as soon as he can and hammer you into submission and then crown himself national hero. It would embolden Trump to smear democrats even further and contribute to undercuting democratic processes. Political suicide is not going to solve the problem. People have to suffer the consequences of their immature voting practices through mass inflation and hollowing of social services and democracy for them to learn. I know it's frustrating because just how stupid it all is. It should be obvious how bad Trump is politically.

Yeah, that's a good point. You could build a good case for both. There's a lot of compelling evidence that points in the opposite direction if you want to look into it. It's all circumstantial from what I've seen, but when you add it all up, it's not easy to dismiss. Also, "puppet" doesn't necessarily mean 100% controlled. It could just mean 25% or 50% controlled or it could mean "in cahoots" or colluding with. So "puppet" isn't the best term. I was just using Lyubov's term. Collusion for power/material gain would be more likely but it's also possible Putin has some dirt or leverage on Trump, which could explain a narcissist taking orders from someone else. Russia is big into spying. Think of the weak security around Trump's properties, especially from the 70s to 2000s. Maybe they recorded Trump fucking a kid and are blackmailing him with it. That might get a narcissist to do your bidding, especially if you promise him unfathomable riches. Remember, when Trump was asked by reporters if he'd release the JFK information, he said absolutely. Then was asked if he'd release the information of some other big thing, and he said absolutely. Right after those two questions, he was asked if he'd release the Epstein files and he said "that I'm not sure about, I probably would". Also, Epstein passed away from "suicide" when the cameras just so happened to be off. It's not outside the realm of possibility that the Russians have dirt on Trump. Again, I'm not saying they do, I'm just saying they might.

The press conference started fairly well. Trump praised Ukraine and Zelensky, he wanted the deal signed. Before the discussion started, the least diplomatic thing Trump said was that it was difficult because Zelensky hates Putin and vice versa, which is true. Zelensky was willing to sign the deal, too. At some point, when he lists the presidents, he tells him, "Thank God you were elected again." But they are two big egos incapable of diplomacy. We all know that's true for Trump. It's also true for Zelensky, who has had ovations, hero treatment, and zero challenges of his positions from Western leaders and the media for three years. He rejected any possibility of a diplomatic route with Russia, which was what Trump and Vance were proposing, and he did it in front of the press. His side of the story is the only valid one and he won't accept anything out of that narrative. But Russia's side has many valid points too, the way CIA, NATO, and Ukraine's most nationalists have been messing the situation, including Trump's Javelin missiles. Merkel, who Zelensky cites as witness of Russia's deceptions, admitted that the Minsk Accords were a mere tactic to give Ukraine time to arm itself. But Zelensky doesn't want talk, he wants war, his problem is he can't win it. Any future deal proposal from Russia will be worse than today. Russia will pay a price of continuing the war with blood, both sides will, but Russia will charge that price with more land in the end. Trump was right in questioning the idea that Russia will become a menace to the peace of the USA. Russia can't militarily take, and even less maintain, much more than it has in its vicinity. But it can with Eastern Ukraine, who are culturally Russian in a big part already, and they justify what they are doing as a way to defend these people, and it's not totally out of reason. For now, it's good the mineral deal didn't take off, but Zelensky was willing to go with it, so it's still a menace for Ukraine to lose its economic control and resources. The deal was giving the US half of the revenues obtained from the Ukrainian minerals, and control over the expenditure of the other half, getting good contracts for themselves, the US contractors, obviously. It's pure economic colonialism, at this point they should even consider if Putin is willing to offer a better deal for Western Ukraine, because that was economic suicide. By the way, this deal didn't mean the end of the war by any means, it had nothing to do with Russia. The war continues, Russia is grabbing more land each day, and it's only going to get worse. So what Trump said that he was handing Ukraine a good card was absolutely false.

Europe has been dwelling in a self-imposed strategic twilight for decades. When you outsource your vigilance to an empire's pitbull for generations, your geopolitical vision atrophies like an unused muscle. The continent that once possessed the sharpest strategic minds has willingly developed diplomatic glaucoma, content to let America scan the horizon while they focused on internal bureaucratic minutiae. This dependency didn't happen by accident. It was cultivated, nurtured, and enforced through a complex system of carrots and sticks – NATO bases, financial entanglements, intelligence sharing that was really intelligence capturing. The arrangement suited the empire perfectly: Europe remained comfortably blind while their resources were redirected, their industries captured, and their sovereignty quietly hollowed out. Europe's strategic myopia is now so advanced that they can't distinguish between their own interests and Washington's commands. They've forgotten how to assess threats independently, how to engage with neighbors directly, how to calculate the true cost of following imperial directives. They've traded their binoculars for a blindfold and called it security. It's time for Europe to reclaim its sight – to dust off those spectacles that have been gathering cobwebs since the end of the Cold War. The continent needs to rediscover its capacity for independent strategic thinking, for seeing beyond the narrow frame the empire has provided. The alternative is continued blindness while being led toward conflicts that serve another's interests. The carrots that once seemed so appealing have revealed themselves as the most expensive meal in history. Meanwhile, the stick is no longer just looming – it's firmly pressed against European backs, driving them toward economic suicide and unnecessary confrontation with their neighbors. True vision requires the courage to open eyes that have grown comfortable in darkness. It requires the willingness to see uncomfortable truths: that treating your largest energy supplier and natural trading partner as an existential enemy might not be the strategic masterstroke it was sold as. That perhaps the greatest threat to European prosperity and security wasn't coming from the East after all. Europe must rebuild its atrophied strategic vision before it's marched blindly into one last, final abyss from which there is no return – all while believing they're walking toward the light.

Ffs this is such a closeminded but expected take, to say that if someone is ethnocentrist it must mean they can't identify with more than just their own people is too black & white (no pun intended), i am ethnocentric and a white nationalist (if i was any other race i would be a nationalist for that race too, it's not about identfying with a race for the sake of race, it's for the sake of not having your race wiped off the face of earth) and at the same time i am aware at all times that this is my dream that i'm constructing in this moment as God where everything is a figment of my Godly imagination including people of different races meaning that ultimately everything is one and there is no duality, but despite all of this there is still duality in maya and as long as i'm dreaming this dream it's absolutely healthy to want to have your race of people to stay alive on the planet, it's basic survival 101 and survival is a healthy thing, what you're subtly proposing by calling ethnocentrism "level of cognitive identificiation" is suicide, which you show in a more direct manner at the end of your post by calling me racist for caring about the survival of my race within the dream. Sure, Kanye considers himself superior to many people but that's more from an egoic point of view, Kanye doesn't see any race or group of people superior to another, which is what you implemented by saying he thinks he's superior to jews because he sees something wrong with them. Kanye is not a nazi, all the nazi stuff that he does is just an intentional response to supression of all the nazi things, this happens with every supressed thing in the world, if things like nazis, swastikas, Hitler, talking about the jews weren't supressed topics he wouldn't see a need to put resistence to that supression which is what he's doing, him making a swastika shirt and saying i love hitler is him giving a big fuck you to the overall supression, that's mostly done by the jews in the media (which also proves his point about jews being overpowered in the media and all jew releated things like the Holocaust and Isreal being "greatest ally" being the most pushed topics by that same media in comparison to all the other topics within those categories). The example i gave you of jews seeing themselves as superior to others is directly releated to you saying Kanye sees himself as superior to jews, i gave you the reverse example and it actually made more sense because it has an entire religion backing it instead of an ego of a famous rapper. And in that last sentence of course you have to use the overused racism card in big 2025 because someone thinks one of the races of planet earth actually shouldn't cease to exist, there is nothing wrong with being protective of your own race, if i was black i would be a black nationalist, it's not about race, it's about not being suicial and instead wanting to keep existing, it's literally that simple and blatant. And you're the one talking about "contamination", i don't use that word so stop putting it in my mouth. And also your main point wasn't about me but about people in power, i'm not a person in power so that still doesn't explain the claim that there are white nationalists in positions in power, as i have said there are people in power who have talked the white nationalist talk but didn't walk the white nationalist walk, it's been this way since the 40s.

@VeganAwake I recognize I am extremely lucky. Not many make it this far. I ve seen people die by suicide because of this. Serious mental illness and substance abuse is not something you can just joke around with. I am lucky because I have been able to help others. But people relapse and die because of such comments. Why not better search for Truth? The Devil is a Liar. God is Honesty, Truth. It is that simple.

I came here to write about my suicidal thoughts, but I decided to have a look at this forum, and I noticed many people are thinking about the same issue. Here are my tips to deal with suicidal thoughts: - Whenever you think suicidal, run for 10 minutes, and notice how your day gets brighter for the next two days. - Whenever you feel the world is against you, remember it is most likely a "know-how" issue, and take pledge to learn about reality a bit more. - Read books about influence, and seduction, in this way, you will learn how to influence the world and people around you in a way that makes your life better. Here are four books: "48 laws of power", and "The Art of seduction", by Robert Grene. Also "Influence" and "Pre-Suasion" by Robert Chaldini" -Watch Actualized.org videos 3 times a week. - and finally, be patient, this ignorance that you enjoy isn't only yours, it is in fact accumulated from several hundred of generation throughout the history of mankind, so be proud that you will be a part of the solution.

I think Kindness is one of the fundamentals to living The Good Life. But what is Kindness? What is Service? I think it is understanding and attending the Anger that the Other has against you and solving it, as illustrated by the above verse from The Sermon of The Mount. you suddenly remember a grudge a friend has against you "CLEAN THE FLOOR, you made an awful mess." Yes Ma'am. "Do 100 Push Ups NOW" Okay, Godfather. "Do the laundry CORRECTLY" Yes. "Do it again, YOU MESSED UP". Okay. "AGAIN!" Okay. I think it is not about solving my own anger, but other people's. I think that is the essence of service and abnegation and a route to enlightenment. After doing that, others will smile and you will sow Peace. In a clinic where people have commited suicide, this attitude can save their lives, and your own. I think this is part of Christ's message.

Is governmental assisted suicide just another form of the death penalty?

It objectifies people, the worst should be life in prison or exile, with the option of assisted suicide, if human life is sacred then human life is sacred.

Sounds like typical Christian rehab law. Suppress and repress instead of express on a healthy way. Did they commit suicide and went crazy because they expressed their anger in destructive ways, or because they suppressed it until it became unbearable?

@Aaron p @Leo Gura A drug rehab center in Mexico can be a place with A LOT of anger. Ive seen two commit suicide because of this, many relapse and many simply go crazy. I've observed my anger and I can see it come and go. But working with other addicts can be very challenging. One day a 50 year old woman asked: Why, after working with dolphins, art, group therapy, psychiatrists, many clinics, why has nothing improved? Because of RESENTMENT, I yelled and her eyes opened a bit, the owner of the clinic noticed this. So, I think there is something profound about Hate, Resentment and, Anger that creates a Duality between Self and Other and that somehow must be resolved. When I saw the Kingdom, I found a word - Conflict, which I have not yet resolved. What is Conflict? I will research and practice Sedona Method, thank you

Firstly, eventually, of course we will have to evolve to showing kindness towards especially mass murderers. Not in some sort of naive way, as you here suggest as a dunk of stage green naivety, but a genuine, structured compassion that maintains society while also allowing us to grow. Many mass murderers were traumatized, mentally ill, abused. If you do not have compassion, you will never get rid of this phenomena, because if you cannot recognize their humanity you will never even attempt to find a way to prevent them from becoming what they became. What even is the point of the killing? Again, the death penality has not shown to have any effect on criminality, nor on mass-murders. Mass murders happen in a context that will be completely removed from any impact the death penalty could have. Most of these people do it with the expectation of suicide or death anyways. And of course it's cruel, the death penalty is a severe form of psychological torture. Just read up on the torment it inflicts on individuals. And again, you completely avoid the necessary cost that will come with such laws, which is innocent people getting killed by the state. If you think that is avoidable, you don't understand the justice system. And again, to what end? What is the point of the death penality. To discourage mass murderers? How naive of a world view can you have if you think a mass murderer would think to themselves "Oh no, I better not kill a bunch of people because they have the death penalty on this". That's just an absurd picture, if you are committing such a crime there won't be any thoughts of the consequences. Yes, it does contradict kindness and love, it obviously does.

In this clip Leo talks about suicide and the challenges around it. He says in the absolute sense, suicide is not morally wrong. I somewhat agree. Then Leo proceeds to say - death is infinite love, this is where I suffer a temporary moment of mindfuck. How is death supposed to mean infinite love? Then he says the absolute purpose of this work is to recontextualize everything around you in the here and now and be able to see the beauty in the present moment. But my question is that if this present moment represents all the beauty and infinite love, then why can't death also represent same? How does death become any lower in value than the experience of the present moment and why should death not be on the same plane as living in the present moment? Is it not possible to love this challenge that entails loving the present moment and love death at the same time? Also as Leo says to make a commitment to suffer it out no matter what, I guess it's easier said than done. Would this imply that suicide is un-spiritual?

I committed suicide before and I know I'm past that shit now but there is a deep fear in me that I'm capable of doing it again despite the fact that I know I wouldn't do that and I don't have any reason to do that but I'm afraid specially when I take psychedelics that if I get stuck in negative thought patterns I would kill myself it's a twisted shit and I haven't discovered how to deal with it yet I know it's stupid intellectually because I don't wanna do that but then again I'm afraid of doing it I would appreciate other perspectives on this situation

Firstly, this going to get a lot of stick & some guys might call me pathetic especially anyone shorter & I'm sorry, I am just being honest about how I personally feel. This isn't intended to whine or be all woes me, I just have such a strong ambition to be a ladies man & I am about 5 foot 8 - 5 foot 9, (somewhere between 173 - 175 CM) & I refuse to measure myself because I'm scared it's even 172-173. I am from European countries where young people are very tall, I'd say male average is normally about 5 foot 11, but I continuously see men 6 foot plus & see plenty women my height I spent most of my life thinking I was average height, but now I realize I am short & I am too short for women's standards. I'm not here to moan or hate women but I will admit that I want to date & have casual sex // relationships too with women I find attractive. But I just don't measure up & my chances in pick up are extremely slim. I've been ripped in perfect shape & I still can't compete with skinny or fat guys if they are 5 foot 11 plus, they are tall enough I am not end of story. I didn't care about height but that didn't change the fact that women really do. I don't mind if a girl is 5 foot tall or 5 foot 9. Now I come to the dark truth of how challow & specific society is. Society loves their specific preferences & measurements ... It's ashame beacause I'm not that picky, girl doesn't have to have a huge ass or tits, or be a certain height, as long as I feel attractive then thats enough for me, but the girls always so picky I can get the number sometimes but they always end up ignoring me. I have all the other qualities apart from height, don't say "it's your attitude" because I have litterally been extremely confident before,acted happy, funny in the moment, ripped physique & social and still couldn't get the girls. I have lost all motivation to live & I am considering suicide. I really value relationships & for years & years I have wanted at least 1 decent looking women (with good personality), but who actually wants me & find me attractive & wouldnt cheat or look down on me for being short I feel insecure walking on the street & in my city there are tons of beautiful women, always walking around with tall handsome men. No I don't want to move to indonesia or somewhere & that isn't practical for me right now. I can't focus on my work & business goals right now and all my thoughts get constantly devoted to this I get obssessed with it & have obsessive mind I go to clubs but it's hard to hide my insecurity, even when i'm feeling confident I can't stand out at clubs because height is everything & the only obvious thing I am going to drink alcohol becasue I can't take the pain & probably commit suicide. I don't want sympathy or your polite bullshit or white lies or "go see a psychologist", they won't make me taller & give me a big dick. So no. Why am I posting this? Because I might as well post this first before I give in in defeat, but I don't think anything will change. Realizing that society is so chimp like is depressing. If only I could get girls with my charm & my skills or my sense of style or my phsyique, all things I have & develop but they just want the bigger chimp with the bigger cock.

You and @puporing and most other leftists are just too stuck in victim mindset to take action on these changes and empower your lives and thus gain enough knowledge through doing it to see that it's going the right way. You're basically like people criticizing CEOs for being overpaid while never having started a business and not understanding the difference between commodity labor and executive skillset. I don't think we can come to an understanding but Purporing just proved my point that he's so clueless about how to impact the world that he would resort to suicide if the situation became worse. Reflect on the fact that you're a human and that humans are the most powerful creatures on earth. And that now you have AI and literally decentralized finance meaning that you could litereally take over Trump yourselves if you wanted to. TELL ME LITERALLY WHAT IS TO STOP YOU??? Your weak mindsets disgusts me honestly. Go back to spiral dynamics and integrate some Stage Red. You're not a hamster nor a victim nor a powerful man you're literally an infinitely powerful God that fooled himself thinking he's a powerless victim. Beta male energy. Get a grip.

@VeganAwake If meaning is an illusion, why do firefighters rush into burning buildings, doctors risk their lives in war zones, and parents shield their children at their own expense? Why did Schindler save Jews, Beethoven compose deaf, or Van Gogh paint through despair? If survival is the only motive, why do people sacrifice for something greater? If insight has no impact, why do addicts recover, ex-criminals transform, and therapy prevent suicide? Why does purpose pull people from depression? If nothing matters, why prefer food over poison, justice over false imprisonment, or a skilled surgeon over a blindfolded one? If direction is fake, should pilots ignore altitude? If morality is a construct, should we comfort abusers instead of victims? Even animals protect their young, are they hallucinating meaning too? Evolution itself favors meaning-seekers; if value were false, why does it increase survival? If nothing matters, why engage at all? The moment you reply, you validate discussion. The second you reject injustice, you assign meaning. And if this “isn’t a mental health forum,” why does it bother you if people seek understanding? If nothing matters, why care where they go? Reality won’t let you live your philosophy. The illusion isn’t meaning, it’s pretending you don’t need it.

Why shouldn't a person kill themselves if they feel like it? They probably are not going to go to hell or something like that, so what reason there is for staying alive?

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As unstable as Trump is, as soon as prices start going up in the u.s. he will obviously cancel the tariffs. The threatened countries shouldn't flinch, Trump is a political suicide bomber with tariffs, he'll blow himself up. This is a legal way for foreign nations to have influence on U.S. politics.