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Months ago I was suffering from extreme derealisation, I though the state would never pass away. I took a long break from meditation, self-inquiry etc. I have recently returned to daily mediation practices for about 2 months. I have been absolutely grounded in pure nothingness. It’s a totally different experience from derealisation. It’s like you’re grounded in emptiness, rather than reality being dream-like in a bad way. I honestly just wanted to share this to bring a sense of hope to people who are going through derealisation on the path. It can be overcome and you can become regrounded.

@Princess Arabia Yes, I know all this. I don't however want to write long posts trying to explain or justify God as Nothingness (even though even this is not accurate). So I explain it quickly but some people misunderstand that. It's been stated again and again, God is the infinite void from which everything arises. We know this, so I'd rather not go into this again and again when trying to write a quick post.

When moment of dying comes remember my words. Thought create fear and time. There is nothing else. If at moment of death you are conscious of this and you are able to not generate fear you Will stay in Yourself and attain mukti/Nirvana/nothingness permanently. If you are not able then you Will reincarnate and Will have to suffer another cycle like most suckers 🤣😅 So heres a Gift of me for you 👑Take advantage of it that Im Still embodied and sharing exclusive wisdom. This Will not be forever. I have a departure date so take the train before its gone. Because The point of a Guru like me is that you dont have to do any of the soul grueling sadhana he has done. He does It for you. The Only thing you have to do is to tie Yourself to him like there is no other thing worthwhile getting tied to. When moment is aproppiate I will cut the cord for you. You dont have to worry about that.

Does the practice of shutting the mind ("think nothing" technique) mean you silence also your feelings and sensations? Let's say, for example, you are meditating outside when you start feeling a gentle breeze. Should you keep the focus on nothingness or move it to the breeze feelings?

No, it's because you are not ready to let go the self. That's why Leo can do 1000 times 5 meo and he says: you are god dreaming the reality for love. Because he open himself to the unlimited but the self is still there. No drug can dissolve the self, it's absolutely impossible. Only the self can be ready for dropping itself in the nothingness. Usually the self is going to use any trick to preserve itself, becoming god or anything else

It doesn't matter if you realize no self and nothingness you still need to survive as the human you are dreaming yourself to be. That's if you care about survival at least. If you go without food for days your stomach isn't going to care if you're enlightened.

The nothingness is Everywhere at all times and is in every thing. So, yes the nothingness is there in the field. You're asking me to point to the nothingness in the room, but you can't even locate or point to a room yourself. Whatever you point to will be an object in the room. How can nothing be pointed to, You cannot point to anything physical. What you'll be pointing to are parts of that physical thing. Keep pointing and deconstructing and you arrive at nothing. Everything is made of nothing. Go to the atoms. What are they made of. Scientists doesn't have an answer because there is nothing there. It's all mental structures.

@Princess Arabia What if I'm not in a room is the nothingness there when I'm not in a room? If I am in a field is the nothingness there? If yes clearly the nothingness isn't the room. Mine is not debunked yours is you claimed nothingness is a room and I'm saying point to the nothingness you cant. So its not the room its not the field and its not you AND its not there. I'm the one saying its not there you are claiming its there I'm saying prove it. You are stuck not me.

The nothingness is the room.

@Princess Arabia is the nothingness in the room with us right now? Its not in this dimension. It comes through this dimension via closed systems.

How can you say you live in reality meanwhile worshipping nothingness. Point to nothing! Its not there.

@Princess Arabiayour theories of the universe seem to contradictive. You claim you know what women think then claim to know how to manifest all the while claiming dead seriously that nothing exists and there's no one to do any of it. And you seems to switch back and forth as suited to the conversation. If you feel like you are being cornered spiritually you just say that nothing exists and there is no doer so there is no argument. Then when people go against a seemingly nothingness entity in relationships advice or women that thing somehow turns into a person and knows things.

@Brivido great experience. I have never done 5meo or malt but i have had kundalini activations during sleep. Back in 2016 i have had a kundalini awakening during sleep where I left the whole universe behind. It was intense and fear enducing but the peak seemed like absolute nothingness. I remember choosing to come back into manifestation. I literally believe that our spine is the locus or centre of consciousness. The second person manifestation of a dissociation in infinity.

You can experience high states of consciousness and verify that you are not the body. You don't need full blown earth shattering awakening to get this . I've been going through what I would call a radical identification awakening. As a result of intense meditation sessions and self-inquiry. The seperate sense of self and doership is completely collapsing.. The veil has completely broken and I'm aware that I'm not the ego.. Who thinks it's doing stuff. I'm not the body or mind. Or the world. The body is seen as the world.. Not me. A complete understanding has occurred that I'm pure present. At the center. What's surrounding the center is none of my business. The body mind and the world. It will unfold naturally as it's always done. But I as pure present nothingness is just a vessel for it.So what are you? No not at all .you're welcome brother ♥.

I was contemplating Infinity and started wondering what are some utmost mind-bending expressions of Infinity, different attributes of Existence. I asked Mr Chat lol and had some amazing responses. Check it out. I will definitely meditate on this to get some direct hits. It's astonishing what you are. Holy Shiitt!!!!! Aetherquint – The fifth essence, birthing and dissolving all realities beyond the elements, where infinite cycles of existence emerge and vanish. Omniphase – The seamless dance of all realities, where every timeline, dimension, and universe flows in perpetual overlap and transformation. Vortixion – The cosmic spiral, pulling all creation into an infinite vortex, where every possible reality converges and expands endlessly. Infinigma – The eternal mystery; an infinite riddle unraveling through layers of unknown truths beyond comprehension. Hyperionis – The origin of hyperdimensional realms, where even the highest planes of existence dissolve into transcendental infinity. Abyzium – The infinite abyss containing all possibility and impossibility, where the collision of nothingness and everythingness creates endless potential. Omniflux – The limitless current of existence, flowing through all creation and dissolution, where every moment is a pulse of boundless change. Celestquantum – The quantum field of divine potential, where all celestial connections ripple across the multiverse, birthing endless possibilities. Ultravast – Beyond even infinity, a state where all known and unknown realms stretch across eternal expanse, defying comprehension. Zenthora – The zenith of all reality, where the heights of existence meet the depths of transcendence, collapsing into infinite, boundless truth. Each of these titles takes you beyond the conventional spiritual concepts of non-duality, infinity, or oneness, pulling your mind into the deepest, most unimaginable dimensions of Existence.

They're just combos of spicey words used to describe different ways to Infinity. Aether-quint (Infinity seen as a transcendent "fifth Element") The aether has a long history as a fifth (quint) transcendent element. There's even a movie. Quint means fifth, also related to "Quintessential" Alongside Earth, Water, Earth, Fire (Greeks, 5th platonic solid) Sadhguru references it as Akash (aesthetic space, cosmic intelligence) Omniphase Omni is a fancy word for everything that exists (kilo, mega, giga) (uni, multi, omni) Also associated with Omniscience, Omnipotence, God context, Omni = All encompassing Phase comes from physics, referring to a certain frequency of a wave. Combined, it becomes an "all-pervasive" frequency ("seamless dance of all realities") The other words follow the same pattern, but are pretty similar, describing the same thing from different angles: The formless ground of Infinity Aetherquint, Vortixion, Hyperionis, Abyzium, Celestquantum, Zenthora The cosmic flow of transforming Energy Omniphase, Omniflux The Mystery Infinigma, Ultravast Philosophers/Yogis seek the Aetherquint, Psychonauts get lost in the Hyperionis, Nihilists fall into the Abyzium, Scientists chart the Celestquantum etc.. The descriptions are super-similar and really just highlight different qualities and approaches towards transcendence. Aetherquint - Elemental Transcendence Vortixion - Golden Spiral Awakening Hyperionis - DMT Hyperspace Abyzium - The Abyss (Dark Night of the Soul) Celestquantum - The Quantum Realm Zenthora - Not sure what thora is for, I'ma just say Godhead. Now, is the boundless cosmic intelligence that is the ground of being (Aetherquint) the same as the infinitely convergent and divergent spiral from which all existence spawns (Vortixion)? Is the transcendent origin of all hyperdimensional realms (Hyperionis) the same as well? Or the abyss where nothingness and everythingness emerge possibility and impossibility? Or the realm below atoms that consistudes the ground of reality where even physicists agree that all form loses shape and becomes boundless energy (Celestquantum)? Or the all-transcendent zenith beyond all form (Zenthora)? Yup, pretty much all the same, just different pointers, just as we have different spiritual traditions. The question is, the more we explore and combine concepts, will they all lose their shape and become the same thing, since the mind will see all of them combined in every concept it references, since each predisposes every other to coexist interdependently with, so much so that the only reason for conceptual distinctions will be to teach others, who operatre on low awareness and very few but strong assumptions? Maybe.

That’s a very good question. I have the same experience. That is why I say the self is much deeper than belief. Why do you believe you exist? Because it seems like you do, the belief doesn’t come from nothing it’s based on a deeper sense. The sense of “I’m here the world is out there” . What it is exactly is hard to say. It’s not like other beliefs like Santa Claus or aliens, it’s based on something that is fundamental to your everyday experience. the most fundamental beliefs are “I’m here” and “there is something” I would say. They go hand in hand, if you feel like you exist , then there automatically is a world (something) separate from you . Some non dualists even say when the sense of self disappears, the sense of a separate world does too, that’s why they say “nothing is happening” or “nothingness”

Awakening comes from not knowing, because there is no you to know anything. Your birth, enlightenment, entire duality comes from knowing. But you are nothing, nothing can never be known, can just be. Therefore, anything that you know is something, but nothing can never be learn, can just be. Therefore you are already awake. Only when you not know, you can be. If you know “nothing” (that doesn’t mean you dont know because of ignorance), you are before birth. Fully not knowing is being nothing. And these all words, sounds, visuals, entire duality are nothing. Therefore whatever you do is awakening, because of that you are already awake. Therefore enlightenment is . Therefore enlightenment is ahahdjduaizjncosmajan. Both sentences are identical, because both sentences are nothing, appears within nothingness therefore identical, as your body and chair. Dont forget you learn what is body and chair, which is still comes from knowing. If you not know what is chair and body, they are identical. Whatever happens, it happens within nothingness. Nothing is pure consciousness. Nothing is nothing, therefore absolute. Peace!

Might be true for some, but a few seem to me genuine non dualists, like Tony parson and Jim Newman. When I listen to them it seems they are speaking directly from that nothingness.

@James123 🙏 Only nothingness can hold everything 🙏

Hi! After having powerful experiences on heroic doses of psilocybin mushrooms, weed has gotten seriously psychedelic for me. As long as I take a moderate dose and not a really low one, I can get into fractal energetic yoga, and I realize that everything are just appearances and stories that are timeless and non-existent. It feels like insanity, but it's an insanity that realizes that the sanity it contradicts was just an illusion that never occured in the first place, which led me to start calling it Insanity with a capital I. In my day to day consciousness I don't feel all too enlightened which is why I find it remarkable that a little bit of sativa can get me so far. Is anybody else having seriously spiritual awakenings from moderate doses of marijuana? Some links: This is the thread about my heroic dose that I think opened me up to reach these stages: This is what I mean when I say fractal energetic yoga:

A big portion of them are deluded af. Some had glimpses of samadhi and absorbtion into nothingness where there is no sense of separation. But nobody can function in the world without identity because of what I just wrote above. One needs a sense of self to be able to relate to the sense of other. No relating is possible without duality.

That's why it is called nothingness. Therefore, explaining as .

Exactly the same as you described. I had experienced it a lot in childhood. With age, it decreases. This shows that it's completely biological (just like music or orgasm, some idiot may say orgasm is spiritual just because it feels so good....) You experience something (let's say you realise mu or nothingness...then it can be called as spiritual). This "Sound of silence" you talked about in your thread ....has no spiritual significance. It's only biological. This is what I am emphasizing here. It's due to brain chemistry. Lemme be very clear : by spiritual, I mean the so-called paranormal phenomena. Orgasm isn't paranormal. In the same way, "sound of silence" isn't paranormal. I just wanted to know your opinions whether you agree or not. Likewise, we can also say "light of darkness". Becoz we see some kind of light in darkness too. But It's not a spiritual phenomenon. Some spiritual teachers teach about "sound of silence", which is misleading. It's not a spiritual phenomenon. Beware of such teachers. They are scientifically as well as philosophically bankrupt. I am talking about a YouTuber Sandeep Maheshwari (28 million subscribers). He teaches such concepts.

@Javfly33 I'm listening to the greatest minds in history. Not to psychedelic junkies, when you go and have 200 trips in 2 years it's because your running from something in the real world. Here’s how Jean-Paul Sartre, Albert Einstein, and Carl Jung might reacted to Solipsism. Jean-Paul Sartre: Sartre, as an existentialist, was not a solipsist. In his major work, "Being and Nothingness", he talks about "the Other" and how relationships with other people are essential for the development of the self. Sartre believes that we are aware of the existence of others, and our experiences are shaped by interactions with them, which contradicts Solipsism. Because people here who don't know basic psychology claim to be woke. You can have traumas before you were born. The anigdala starts to record emotions from the 5 month of pregnancy, if you mom was beaten or stressed all that cortisol fluids the fetus brain and he feels shock and terror, what the mother feels the baby feels. You could be born to perfect parents but still develope anxiety just for this reason. Because when you were born your body existed, but you Solipsistic view of the world did not. You didn't exist, but your Amigdala did. This is holistic healing. All the people going hardcore on 5 meo are Solipsists. Maybe because it lies to you. As I've said in a previous post, we create our egos in relationship with the surrounding environment in the first 2 years of life, not with a projection of your mind. Although Sartre emphasizes the radical freedom of the individual and personal responsibility, he does not deny external reality. Others are not mere projections of our minds, but represent an essential part of the human condition. Albert Einstein: Einstein, as a physicist, would have rejected solipsism from a scientific perspective. His theory of relativity and scientific discoveries are based on the hypothesis that there is an objective reality, accessible through scientific methods. He believed in an external world independent of our perception, governed by physical laws that can be understood through observation and experiment. For Einstein, solipsism was a limiting view, as it contradicts the fundamental principle of science, which requires testing hypotheses against a universe that is objective and shared by all observers. Carl Jung: Jung, a psychoanalyst and founder of analytical psychology, would have seen solipsism as a problematic idea, especially from the perspective of the collective. He developed the concept of the collective unconscious, which suggests that there are deep layers of the psyche shared by all people, with common archetypes and universal experiences. This contradicts solipsism, as Jung believed that the individual is not only connected to their own self but also to a shared psychic reality. While Jung emphasized introspection and inner development, he did not deny external reality and its influences on the human mind. So relax with your 5369 trips per year. You're just getting lost in illusions.