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Oh yeah....explain it. Because I predict you will deny the existence of something. And what I am telling you, that means you have not fully awakened. Even Tony Parsons won't deny the existence of something. He will just say its an apparent something. The only thing he denies is the existence of God. And that is because he is not conscious that he is God. Or why we use the term God to begin with. Then you got James123 or whatever his name is denying the existence of God and denying creation even though evidence for all of that is all around us. You and many others are not aware of what's going on. Reality is a mind game of identity. Since everything is ONE, to maintain an identity of seperation you have to DENY some aspect of Reality. So the only way to discover ONENESS is you have to break out of your identity and that involves first denying the identity. But then to grow your awareness you have to rebuild your identity and ACCEPT everything. To ACCEPT everything is to exclude NOTHING. So what does this mean? It means you must aim to understand ALL perspectives. If you understand all perspectives....then nothing is denied. I know why you speak as you do, I know why James speaks as he does, but you do not know why I speak as I do. As such you have a particular bias you are trapped in. You deny something, but you ACT as if something exists. How do we know? Because you are on the forums typing and responding. This means you are LYING to yourself, you have created a belief system that denies your reality. This is called Gaslighting. You are gaslighting yourself which is what happens when you create a belief system. How do we know its a belief system? Because in your direct experience....you are typing, and that means there IS SOMETHING. SOMETHING IS NOTHING!!!! Depending on which conscious state you are in, it will be felt as more Something or more Nothing. It's BOTH. The moment you lean either way....you are lost. The teachings are meant to exaggerate because you are very attached in an exaggerated way. But the funny thing is, they just cause some people sometimes to just become exaggerated on Nothing out of fear of ever falling into delusion again. You need to have the courage to connect and feel for something again. You only lost motivation because you disconnected yourself from all that is. You need to go back to embracing all that is and reconnect to it as Nothing and then you will discover IT IS SOMETHING. And..that...is LOVE.

Hi Sugarcoat, If self knowledge came after a long period of diligent spiritual practice under the tutelage of a pure teacher, you will probably not catch enlightenment sickness. You would have lived in such a simple way that you were already happy before you discovered who you are, and there will be virtually no change in your inner life. You would have associated with enough truly enlightened people to understand that enlightenment is nothing special. But if you were not blessed with a sattvic disposition and excellent karma and you struggled long and hard, you will probably be so eager to make the most of your enlightenment that you will not take time to tidy up the last bits of ignorance. If you formulate your enlightenment as a grand happening and turn it into a big story, you have the enlightenment disease. In reality, you should be happy to keep your mouth shut because you did not get something you did not have all along. Awareness is your nature. By making a fuss about it, you are only calling attention to a long stay in ignorance, not to a special accomplishment. If you hear yourself telling others that you are awakened or enlightened or “cooked,” you have enlightenment sickness. Awakening is not enlightenment, because the self never slept. You are the fire that cooks, not the cooked food. Awakening means that some kind of insight or mystical experience happened, which you define as enlightenment. Enlightenment cancels the ego, so there is no one left to claim he or she is presently awakened. Or if the ego survived, it knows that the self—not it—is enlightened. At best you can say, “I am not enlightened, nor am I unenlightened,” because both enlightenment and endarkenment are simply ideas to you, awareness. Here are two examples of the specious logic of someone who has allowed the ego to co-opt his or her enlightenment: 1) “Consciousness is non-dual. This means that everything is the same as everything else. Therefore, the moral distinctions operating in the creation have no meaning. That is why I do what I want without regard for anyone or anything.” 2) “Reality is non-dual, therefore nothing ever happened. Therefore I do not exist. If I do not exist—I’m so not here!—my dualistic orientation does not exist. So if you see me acting like a self-centered jerk, it is a projection of your ignorance.” Or see what Sri Sureshvara in the 9th century said in the text Panchadasi: “One who says he is awareness yet refuses to discipline the senses is a shit-eating dog. Oh, enlightened one, before you got enlightened you suffered from the pain of your own mental imperfections, but now you suffer the censure of the world. How glorious is your knowledge? Knower of Truth, do not sink to the level of a pig in a sty! Free yourself from the defects arising from your Rajasic and Tamasic tendencies and be worshiped by the world like a god.”

Something just came to me that I would like to share. In life (the "mundane" stuff) we're just performing tasks. Going to work feeding the kids, buying the car, the house, even entertainment, buying clothes, everything. We're performing these tasks for survival, for maintenance of the body, for ways and means to feel secure, a sense of freedom, to feel loved, a sense of peace joy and gratitude. All the good stuff - you know the deal. When you've Awakened to your true nature, and I mean really know who and what you are, you may feel unmotivated to continue doing those "tasks" because you've recognized that they don't fulfill you. During your Awakening those feelings were magnified and now nothing comes close. You were only doing those things and were motivated to do them because of the feelings they generated within you. Even the job you didn't like was still giving you a sense of purpose and maybe a sense of productivity and worth. Now, you're unmotivated to do the mundane things because you don't have a reason to anymore. You wanted to feel secure but now you're already feeling secure, you wanted to feel loved, but now you're already feeling loved, you wanted to feel the freedom that working these mundane jobs provided, but now you don't crave that feeling anymore from Awakening to your true nature. Either that or those feelings want to push through more intensely but you're unmotivated to do mundane things to let them flow through. I don't really have the solution for this lack of motivation, and I do believe it's partially for the reasons stated above, for which I could be wrong, and could only apply to some and not all; but If it applies, maybe this is the time to really focus on your passions or the things that you enjoy the most because you did incarnate in this body for a reason, and that is to experience what it's like to be human from the perspective of Source (did I say that right - or is it the other way around), and maybe your Awakening is a message to you to really start living and to make yourself available for all the joys and pleasures that comes with this recognition instead of not allowing Source to flow through you in the unique way it wants which only you can do. Your lack of motivation could be the body being used to the adrenaline of "fake" fulfillment and the mind is telling it that it is already fulfilled and now it doesn't want to move to fit into the new paradigm of being already fulfilled because it is conditioned to do mundane tasks. The body and mind are not aligned, or maybe it's the mind and body that's not aligned with the heart. Not sure, but something isn't aligned.

Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahamudra "literally means "great seal" or "great imprint" and refers to the fact that "all phenomena inevitably are stamped by the fact of wisdom and emptiness inseparable". Aka mere empty "imagined" appearances, not existing "out there" but within the Infinite vastness of True Being/Universal Consciousness as mere appearance in this nondual field, not as external objects "out there", aka duality. There is a lot of cultural lingo in Buddhism, especially Tibetan Buddhism, that I didn't understand in the beginning, like why they called it Great Seal. Or Emptiness. Or dependend origination. Or Middle Way. Or No Self. Proto-Mahamudra was imported from India around the 10 century, so the term comes probably from India and is used there also. Daniel Brown once said Mahamudra (for example in his book Pointing out the Great Way) is best for Awakening, and then adding Dzogchen-Methods (the books he translated later, kind of a collection of best of Tibetan Buddhism selected by 33rd Menri Trizin. Mahamudra as explained in Pointing out the Great Way = a nearly mathematical step by step method towards Awakening (Nondual Infinite Field at least temporarily seen by impersonal Awareness itself, but some very subtle processes/filters/lenses still clouding full realization). Before that comes Nonduality (or One Taste), or a separate-self (or ET) merging in Unity with the Infinite Field (of earthly or alien form). Dzogchen = Great Perfection, or the path that completes path to Enlightenment. Or fully ripened Awakened Awareness/Awakening, no clusters of separate-self arisings not transcended/seen through/still clouding Impersonal Infinite Being/Awareness. In my perspective the by far most sophisticated and fastest meditation methods (Mahamudra+Dzogchen) on the planet. Nearly all other methods/systems/techniques/traditions are found within these methods one way or the other, but not the other way round. Selling the Great Seal by the River

Right, I can confirm this is not the degree it awakened for me. But I've heard of it happening in books, videos, forums, etc. I remember reading a post from at least one other member on this forum who also described it. I'm sure it feels like a curse now, but I sincerely hope it becomes a blessing for you later.

Forget about Kundalini Yoga The point is: Something called Kundalini exists in the body To explore and master such thing the yoga was created. But let's not put the cart before the horse. Kundalini is consciousness from the ground up, the most visceral and carnal part of you shaking like a wild horse in consciousness and energy. Many techniques are from mind or consciousness itself, but kundalini is in my experience the root of physicality behaving as what it is, supreme consciousness and intelligence. For me it is. Kundalini is one of the biggest bottlenecks for base line consciousness, as you would imagine your full physical vehicle has to be also updated. So everyone in the path that gets deep enough will encounter kundalini. Frank Yang went through wild kundalini awakenings, although doing vipassana. Leo Gura had a full blown kundalini awakening when he first God-Realized in a 5meo Breakthrough. It's something that is very real and tangible, it's not spiritual fantasies believe. I have been hours on the ground convulsing and crying because of kundalini in ecstatic realeases of what felt the deepest purging of my life. I have been several days in an LSD like state because of kundalini, literally tripping for days straight out as this energy was working through me. I had to learn Kundalini yoga to work with this, as Kundalini certainly was working through me. How to practice Kundalini Yoga? I would say to first wake up the kundalini, by whatever methodology you want. I got it awakened by psychedelics, LSD is particularly good to work with kundalini. Although my first full blown kundalini breakthrough was through an initiation. Doesn't matter how you do it but get a taste of kundalini so that it's not just a story. I like this channel, all you need she teaches: I have written plenty of posts about kundalini, so feel free to search kundalini and in options search by author Davino and you will find them all if you wanna dig deeper. Here is the last one I wrote about it One in a million really fuck it up with kundalini and struggle with it for years. For most people, you are good. For real, it's safe. Although, anecdotically some people have issues, that cannot be swept under the rug either. I have talked personally with two people in the forum that were struggling with this. In my experience, Kundalini is an extremely benevolent and intelligence energy. Is the divine femenine consciousness that permeats all of existence. While the divine masculine consciousness is the ultimate trascendental. To merge shiva and shakti, energy & consciousness, is the ultimate divine act of sex love, because then you will realize that they were never apart to begin with and that merging will feel existential, like two lovers uniting again after an eternity separated. Youir infinity consciousness and your energetic human body and the whole word in an ecstatic dance of shaking, sounds, gutural and primal convulsions. Very unique spiritual experience that many people miss

If you're interested in spirituality, you've probably already passed the threshold for the IQ required to get awakened. The rest has to do with self-awareness of a certain type, which isn't necessarily something a high IQ provides. IQ is just IQ, it's not a global measure of a person's character, worth, professional success or mental well-being. There are certain correlations, and it's certainly difficult to conceive of a functional modern society when the mean IQ is below a certain level, but one can't pick two individuals at random and predict their condition based on IQ disparities. You could have a multimillionaire pro athlete with a 100 IQ and some guy who works at a comic book store with 150.

I did one a meditation technique shared by Leo and I become aware of many internal things happening in my body like I could feel the blood running through my veins and many other things. Maybe someone can become awakened after that, who knows?

Nice, many people are unaware that weed can give you an experience of God, I use to wonder as a kid growing up why the Rastafarians smoked weed and after I ate an edible and awakened I realized why they did it. But here is a secret, you can retain the high. I ate an edible and tripped for 2 months and then manually brought down my high. If you want to know how let me know and I'll share it but it may impact your survival lol.

I was just watching a video talking about this, and why some fall back asleep after awakening. Daniel Schmidt loosely talks about this during the second half of the presentation, after about 21:45 minutes in and he talks about “How does one Awaken” and going forward from there. Something about purifying the conditioned patterns of the self, making the self less dense so to speak. He says the first matter is to wake up to who you truly are, but if the self isn’t purified so to speak one may easily fall back asleep, pulled back to sleep by the whirlpool of the mind. The purification isn’t necessary to awaken, however, purifying the self IS necessary to stay awakened. Very interesting what he has to say here, great video infact. I’d suggest watching the whole video though to put everything he says into proper perspective.

That's because you haven't awakened. The paradigm isn't crushed- the ego is literally dissolved. It's entire existence is destroyed. So obviously the next time it returns it is much more cautious and will not allow itself to be dismissed in any way. The beauty of this is that it's not necessary. Ego death need only happen once. The damage was already done. Enlightenment happened.

Bingo Ex-istence = literally means to "stand out" from reality. "Nothing"/No appearance really stands out from Infinite Reality, or exists apart from it. In that (absolute) perspective and realization, every relative appearance is just mere appearance, made out of "mind-stuff", like dreams are made of of "dream stuff". Clear Light, mere lucid appearance without solidity and "externality"/duality, hovering in Infinite Nondual Awareness "Vastness", besides which nothing could "exist", ever. The appearance of the world can appear solid and "out there"(aka material&duality). It can also appear as mere clear light (technical Buddhist term for mere appearance without existence on its own), dream-stuff, appearance, "hovering" in infinite nondual vastness, within ones True Nondual Infinite Being. And having realized that a few times (or better, having that awakened nondual infinite state available all times right here right now), it becomes clear what is really "going on": Mere appearance/Clear light without inherent existence on its own, no "objects" possibly being anywhere. Only ones Infinite True Self, boundless, eternal, morphing, shifting and manifesting mere appearances (and thoughts/feelings, anything that can and does appear). That is what the Buddhists mean with no existence/no self-existence/Middle-path/ Madhyamaka/Absolute Truth. Especially in the dream-stuff or Yoga-Chara-school: Mind(-stuff)/Dream(-stuff) only school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogachara), on which most newer Buddhist schools are based on . And each and any idea/illusion of individuality, or ideas/identities of being apart from this infinite vastness of mere appearance (like being a human in a body, or ET, or whatever), any I-thought and I-feeling appearing in endless high-speed-machine-gun-illusion/ignorance-Staccato of separate-self-"existence", is just more appearance (of the ignorant/illusion-kind) happening within THAT. And that illusion/hypnotizing can be transcended/switched off with enough speed (being fast enough for that high-speed staccato for not getting hypnotized) & strength (knowing, understanding and having transcended even the most subtle core I-feelings/identities, including "I" am the Infinite Nondual Vastness) of meditation (courtesy for the wording to Frank Yang). Selling THAT by the River.

I'd decided not to do psychedelics for 10+ years because my ego had corrupted all of my psychedelic experiences and the Truth. I was very controversial about my decision to do 5MeO-DMT thinking that It would be a mistake. Nevertheless, my vape arrived this morning and I already had a mid psychedelic experience (near break-trough). I realized that if you don't do psychedelics for a long time your ego corrupts your understanding of what god actually is. Apparently you shouldn't be doing psychedelics every day or even once a week because it will backfire you. It's all about the balance. You need to find the sweet spot. Ego finds solipsism very depressing because it misunderstands it. Ego doesn't have a capacity to understand the Truth. It can only be experienced. People who write books about enlightenment are just entertain themselves. All of us here just entertain ourselves. Nobody is enlightened or awakened here. Because if you are awakened there is no one left. Why would you be on this forum debating the Truth or teach others? You are here because you are spiritual ego and nothing more. I'm writing this as ego. Also, it's very obvious to me that those who have never done 5MeODmT can't even talk about the Truth. Most of you guys just use words and phrases that you heard from gurus and read in spiritual books, You've got no clue what you're talking about. You can't know the Truth or talk about the Truth. You can only be the Truth. Anything else is pure entertainment.

Agreed, it could be the very thing that helps someone cross that seemingly insurmountable gap of authentic awakening. Admittedly, I'm making my judgement of a retreat's effectiveness for myself without ever having attended one. It's something to keep an open mind about I guess. To my knowledge, I've never been in the physical presence of someone who's seriously skilled and awakened. I'd love to try that sometime, as it can supposedly produce profound effects on its own via the entrainment caused by their elevated energetic field.

I agree, it's super interesting. The only retreat I'm aware of that utilizes iboga is the retreat ran by Daniel Schmidt from the video, and I believe they're held in Canada. It also looks like there's none happening until later this year: https://awakentheworld.com/blog/samadhi-center-meditation-retreats/ I'm personally much more interested in taking the concept of utilizing iboga TA extract microdoses for meditation and applying it in the privacy of my own home. Some people do better in a ceremony or retreat environment, which I totally understand and respect, but I think I've always done better on my own. Though I could certainly see the benefit if you have an exceptionally skilled (ie actually awakened) person running it.

Of course, because I'm the Truth and I can't be explained only experienced. All of us here we are just entertaining each other. Nobody here is awakened or enlightened. Those who are they are not here. Me for example, If I was in the God state it would make no sense to argue with you because I'm imagining your existence. I'm here because now you feel real to me. In reality you exist only on this forum as a user. You have no mind and no body separated from me. Every word that anyone types here is my creation. Pure imaginary.

There is also the non-dual realization that is enlightenment- it is truly the totality of all of infinity. While Infinity can also be ever expanding- there is such a thing as total Enlightenment. The awakened one can then proceed on to have an ever deeper understanding of reality. But enlightenment itself is total - so, in short, there are two perspectives of looking at this - making Inifnity paradoxical by its very nature. There is the enlightenment of total Infinity - but then there can be the further expression of infinity through actually living out new potential possibilities

@Nemra Most of your arguments are applicable to atheists as well - basically to most people in general (some of your arguments even applicable to people here who claim they are awake/enlightened) I can find certain religious people who questioned metaphysics more and have inquired / have gone down more thought paths in good faith with honesty and with incredible rigor than what you probably will question and inquire in your entire life. Btw I dont know why some people still pretend here that they care about questioning everything ( I specifically mean people who claim to be awake/enlightened). People who claim to be awakened or enlightened will tell you that it is a limited tool and probably wont get you to the end result. Its basically just used as a rhetoric tool when it is convenient and dropped immediately when they are cornered themselves.

Maybe because the Gentlemen at the Heavens Gate at 5min15s doesn't let everyone in? See also: https://www.multidimensionalman.com/ Maybe this gentlemen doesn't like the numbers hanging at the wall at minute 43? ET apparently doesn't care, but it seems our Gatekeeper gentlemen does. Wonder why that is, and which ETs actually don't care.. To get lucid and awake in the dream state to access OBEs/Astral/Afterlife/and the gazillion of other dimensions (https://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Model_of_the_Multidimensional_Universe.html) and so on, one normally needs serious sobre awakened nondual states in the waking life before that extends to the sleep state/OBEs/deep sleep (aka meditation and transcendence of small-self/ego). And even then there are gatekeepers and protection mechanisms of these realms. Wisdom (aka Awakeness) AND compassion/love/Boddhichitta. Which are the two main areas of the development of the soul in the more sophisticated forms of Buddhism (and also any of the other wisdom traditions btw.). Ever wondered why we hear so little here about afterlife-topics, or the (relative) nature&mechanisms of the soul and its development as storepoint in a higher dimension of all learnings&Karma from the gazillion of past lives, Astral realms, afterlife realms and so on? Well, if one would have access to that, one would not behave in certain ways. And that would spoil the gig of this Lila, because one couldn't fool oneself if one would know all the consequences. Standard Lila 101. Instead we have ETs & company, happily seducing with their higher realms, stopping the complete transcendence of anything separate (aka ego) with their seductive powers of the Infinity of Gods imagination & manifestation processes. Instead of Full Enlightenment (Waking up to ones True Being/Identity, and that each and any (existing or possible) realm & understanding & awakening is a manifestation within THAT, within True Infinite Being), we get Awakening n+1, or a subtle separate-self still unseen/untranscended/not understood, stumbling from one higher Awakening to the next, n+1. Dangling up to an Infinity of Awakenings, understanding more and more of the Infinity manifesting within Infinite Being/God (and since Infinity is Infinity, endless, actually never understanding more than an infinitesimal small amount of the actual Infinity of possible manifestations. To be specific: A corn of dust blowing in the wind (ever considered the mathematical aspect of that, thinking it to the final end?), never quite finding fulfillment, never fully dropping into the Infinite Ocean of truly Infinite Being... Infinite = not finite. True Infinite Being. Infinity = a mathematical OBJECT of which there are an Infinity of (see Cantors Set Theory).Or: n+1. Infinite Being/Infinite God is "mainly" Infinite, the manifestation of God is an Infinity of Infinities. Big difference between Infinite and Infinity... Selling Water at the Heavens Gate & happy easter everyone! PS: Rumours have it that in 39 days is Acension Day, so... PS PS: Selling Water by the Rivers 2x2 matrix of human/alien Awakening/Enlightenment. Warning, conceptual overkill ahead. Better go for a walk in nature in spring... Both Awakening (some understanding to the mechanisms of manifestation or aspects/facets of the elephant) and Enlightenment (fully becoming Infinite Being/elephant without anything separate-self-lense/filter left) is available in human/alien(n+1) forms. Both Awakening and Enlightenment gets filtered through the capacity and lenses/filters of the relative vehicle experiencing a) Awakening or b) Enlightenment. Both a) Awakening and b) Enlightenment have both deep structures that are similiar in all beings that experience a) Awakening or b) Enlightenment, but the surface structure or interpretation is different. An example: "Hindu" Enlightenment is mostly interpreted as Infinite Consciousness/Universal Mind, while Buddhists tend to interpret and express it as Infinite Shunyata/Emptiness. Both have the same deep structure realization, but experience and express and "dress" it differently, in a different surface structure/concepts. Since all concepts and dualities fail at Enlightenment, that is possible. One can approach the mountain from both the Infinity and Emptiness side. And getting off the mountain, one can talk in both ways again. At the mountain summit, it is not Infinity nor Emptiness. It is THIS, infinite. Not finite. So, considering all of that we have a 2x2 matrix: (1) Human + Awakening; (2) Human + Enlightenment; (3) Alien/ET/n+1 any other vehicle than human + Awakening; (4) Alien/ET/n+1 any other vehicle than human + Enlightenment; Awakening Enlightenment Human (1) (2) Alien/n+1 (3) (4) So of course there are more encompassing perspectives/beings than humans. Leos Aliens for example. Beings in the subtle realms, advanced Alien species, or even way higher: If we go to a pretty high level, the traditions talk about beings that carry whole realms/universes within their own being, see the Supreme Array Sutra for example (Buddha-fields with "God"-Buddhas maintaing&expressing that realm within their being). Up and down Indras Net. Beings containing a vast number of buddha-fields/realms within themselves, and that up to Infinity. So we got all of these levels covered. Infinity. And now all of these perspectives/beings in Indras Net can have a) Awakenings (not fully realizing their true Infinite Being, but aspects/facets of it (the elephant and the blind man, up to whole "higher" realms in Indras Net/Manifestation and their mechanisms), while leaving the separate-self still subtly (can be very subtle, so subtle that one thinks one gets it while actually not getting/realizing it) intact and b) the full drop or the deep identity shift of Full Enlightenment, the dropping of these subtle filters/lenses/centres/identities, and truly becoming Infinite Being, seeing the former small/separate-self doing its dance within oneself, but not only being that. And that has the potential to end suffering/resistance to what is appearing within ones True Infinite Being. And that can be had as simple human (2), or as Alien, or higher Alien, n+1, or whatever (4). And then one can make a big mistake (from the persepctive of the separate-self, not from Mayas perspective, where that is just more great fun/play/Lila): Prefering Awakening and its inherent suffering/resistance/separate-self still left subtly intact, both as human (1) and as alien n+1 of whatever form (3) more than Enlightenment, as human and/or part-time (psychedelics for example) Alien (2) and (4). And now, dear fellow souls, lets choose wisely between to what one wants to asend to on Ascension day: (1) or (3) and remaining suffering/resistance to what is, and trying to realize an Infinity of (alien) manifestation/(alien)understandings/Awakenings of it, never reaching more than an infinitesimal small dust particle in the Infinity of the Infinite Potential of Infinite God/Being, or (2) and (4) accepting that it is truly Infinity forever and ever and ever and ever, and be pretty much happy ever after since the small bug of resistance called separate-self is understood/seen through in real time in daily life.... and then go enjoying the Awakening (1) and (3) if one is so inclined, as optional celebration of this journey...

Thanks for the clarification. I do agree that we are influenced and require some level of indoctrination. Not all indoctrination is bad like you said with learning math and language. We couldn't have this convo without some level of indoctrination and influence from others. However, I want to be clear about the language we are using to articulate points because a guru means spiritual teacher, and technically, they are not required to awaken. People have awakened without them. But I think your other points still stand to be valid. Thanks for your insight. I would revise your original statement to: "Only ego "needs" a teacher God needs no teacher God created the ego God created the paradox"

Leo is always saying that most of us won't reach enlightenment and that it's really really rare even for seekers to reach that state. Right now Im reading Jed Mckennas Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damnedest Thing and hes saying the same thing. I guess that most of us just dont have these crazy concentration abilities you need to succeed in this work. Furthermore I guess that most of us are lacking this crazy discipline and passion to reach enlightenment. I just want to be realistic here. Im really not a pessimistic or negative person, just want to objective here. I've noticed that many people on this forum (including me) are too naive and too "positive" when it comes to enlightenment. There are even many seekers out there who have these crazy concentration abilities, the extreme discipline and a thirst for truth and even they don't succeed. So what are our chances to get awakened? With our, I mean all the people, who arent really gifted spiritually or dont have any special abilities you need for this work. If its really that rare to reach enlightement, Im sometimes asking myself, why even pursuing it then? Again I dont want to sound negative or nihilistic here. Thanks for your answers

Hey Leo, I hope you are having a great day. I have to say that I’ve being devouring your content this past year. It helps me a lot in developing different perspectives as well as having multiple epiphanies in my life. However, there’s one perspective that particularly piques my interest: the perspective of a self- actualized individual. The reason it is so appealing to me is because so little people have actually reached self-actualization. There’s a limited range of resources available to us so we can only stipulate when we are asking ourselves—people who haven’t reached self-actualization—what is like being one. While watching your episode “How Fear Works,” I’ve asked myself: “If Leo was to be kidnapped one day, would he feel anxiety and fear while waiting for his next torture session?” Unsurprisingly, I am very much afraid of being kidnapped and tortured which explains why I would have such a question in mind. One thing led to another, and I started asking myself how different the public’s view of self-actualized people is from yours. Which leads me to have a set of questions: 1) Would you actually feel fear while waiting for your next torture session? Or in other words, is fear and anxiety things that self-actualized people permanently transcended, no matter the hardships? 2) Are awakenings permanent states? More precisely, what aspects of life are permanently changed? What aspects aren’t permanently changed? 3) Is there a disconnection between the biological creature that is Leo and the self-actualized being? If so, why bother even live an external life? Why bother make money? Why bother have sex? 4) Is it a detachment or a destruction of the biological creature? Is the biological creature still there as it can feel aversive emotions but the actualized being can “cage” that biological creature (detachment)? Or is the creature not there anymore, leaving the actualized being at the unshared seat of experience? 5) How can we be sure that self-actualization is not just another stage of delusion? If the only premise that I can hold as true is that I experience something (cogito ergo sum), what to say that my awakening is not one of the many illusions of life just accompanied by Conviction Bias? I don’t believe you are Leo as I love to trust my intuition, but, knowing that you are aware of the many biases that plague us, how can you trust your experience of self-actualization? I hope you'll find time to read this and thank you in advance. P.S. I had already posted these questions but received no answers. I'm still as confused as I was 10 days ago so I would love to read your take on this Leo.

You haven't awakened deeply enough. I used to think like you a few years ago. God doesn't have needs nor does it have problems which is exactly why it's incarnating. My source is not books or gurus. It's my personal experience on 5MeO-DMT.

Thanks for that trip report. It awakened me a little bit to realize more about eternity. The girl seemed to imply that her friends were the same god as her and yet each had their own experiences. She was able to tap into them but not fully. This is what I was suggesting in that others have experiences, but it is all still within the same reality. Her insight was of Infinite Gods and not solipsism. If she said her friends were imaginary, then that would be solipsism, but she was able to tap into their experiences which is contrary to solipsism.

The problem often is that religion loses its breath and essence when it dances with dogma. Its own followers inflict damage skeptics never could. Also, when people use the term religion what are they usually referring to exactly. Traditions and societal customs or practices are often conflated with religion which is of the spiritual domain, not of the operational domain of how a society should best function. They become like scaffolding built around the raw, pulsing truth of essential religion and become one and the same that when you critique tradition people take it as a attack on religion. I guess for the awakened one, religion isn't just superstition, but eternal truth colorized through mythic story. They can discern whats literal to what may be metaphorically pointing to the transcendental. Historic descriptions of the past aren't taken as prescriptions for the future - records of history aren't always taken as road maps. That doesn't mean we can't extract timeless wisdom, but that societies can age out of certain practices and that tradition becomes a guide and not a jailer. The predicament of the debate between the atheists vs the theists is that their both coming at the same reality from different vantage points yet think they are talking about different realities. Atheist materialists see existence as a clock, ticking without a clockmaker. Religious theists see the clockmaker in every tick and tock like a divine hand orchestrating everything. Atheists can reduce God and existence to a mechanical self-sustaining machine whilst theists can personify God and existence. Both hold fragments of truth which is why discussions can be frustrating. Science questions the operations and how of existence whilst religion is a quest for the one operating behind existence- the one steering, infusing, and expressing itself through existence. Found this video interesting. From 14:07 speaks on why societies always seem to have a religious impulse however that may be manifest.