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Those imagined things have to come from somewhere. That place is what's called nothingness. Thought's arise from nothingness. Everything is arising from nothingness - but remember, that's just a word, a word that came from nothingness.

Hi @Leo Gura & Everyone else! I hope you are doing well. After years of Spiritual Practice or after taking Psychedelics, When we all reach a state where we experience nothingness, pure beingness at the same time we also feel and experience that this Nothingness being is Me my Higher Self. And then we call it GOD. We say I am Nothingness, Consciousness, Pure Beingness, I am GOD. What if we are misunderstanding the Our Nothingness / Consciousness with GOD? What If I (Consciousness /Being) is not GOD but I (Consciousness /Being) is a Creation of GOD from his infinite creations? What is Nothingness is actually our last boundary wall or our ultimate limitation from which we can't go beyond? What if GOD has created a very powerful Creation named "Being" Which can itself create infinite possibilities in itself Like Mind, Body & World....? That is already understood that We are not a body, We are not a mind, not a world but we are pure powerful Transparent formless conscious beings who can create their own Mind, Body & World. What if GOD is apart from his creations: "Beings"? To better understand what I am saying, please check the following attached Diagrams made by me: Waiting for responses. Thanks

Ultimately birth and death are imaginary. It's hard understand this without some deep awakening. So, what you're missing is that that past is imaginary. You imagine the blank in the present. Consciousnes is nothingness. Nothingness is both empty and full at the same time.

Could we have been not born at all? In this dream, you are dependent on others things within the dream. For instance, in order to be born, there has to be someone else pregnant. If your parents never had sex, how could you exist? If you never existed, then what would your consciousness be like? Before age 4, there is a blank. I have no memories of being in the womb nor anything prior. After I am dead, I assume it will be a similar blank. But this doesn’t seem right because consciousness abhors a vacuum. There is no such thing as nothingness because consciousness is always imagining something. Nothing doesn’t exist. Nonexistence doesn’t exist. Buddhists have it wrong.

I have been contemplating the safety of 5meo-DMT. I only have a bit of experience with the substance, and have only "crossed the threshold" once, experiencing a deep fear, a scary body response, followed by an eternal nothingness. Then, I was overcome with the deepest gratitude I have ever felt to be alive coming back, and deep appreciation for the dream we call life. I could tell that I was "creating reality", and that I loved dreaming, and that I chose to "go back to sleep". I knew I was alone. Fully alone. I now know without a question of a doubt I am God, and that reality is entirely mental projection. This has required much integration and understanding. Since then, I have used the drug in much smaller doses, usually as a meditative tool. My ROA was always vaping, or I would sprinkle some freebase 5meo with marijuana. I can not bring myself to try for a full-release again for multiple reasons. Every single time I do 5meo, I have a very similar response. An increase in heart rate, very shallow breathing, then what feels like very low blood pressure and a slowed heart rate. I always just convinced myself this drug is generally safe, especially in small doses. And these effects are no big deal. This seems to be the consensus on this forum. But recently, I experienced something very scary. On a very small dose, I experienced a distinct heart palpitation. My heart was already beating very slowly. It felt almost like my heart was remembering to beat. I felt intense fear. Like I could kill myself by going any deeper or letting go. In that moment an intuitive voice notioned to me, almost like a sort of divine intervention. "This drug will actually kill you, for real, not just psychological death, but real death. Cardiac arrest." I have experienced ego-death on other psychedelics before, and have had horrible trips, but I have never felt something like that. This was real, and there is no convincing me otherwise. In that moment I knew how deeply dangerous this drug could be. I still feel this, and in a sense, am looking to others to convince me I am wrong or just overreacting. I will preface this by saying I have not had any tests done on my heart before experimenting with this substance. I could have some problem. Also, I realize heart palpitations can be normal, and are not always a sign for alarm, but this intuitive voice needed to be heard. I truly believe this drug can cause serious problems with your cardiac or respiratory system. Right now I plan on never touching 5meo again. I know what most here will say including what Leo has said before- "You would not have actually died etc, nobody has died off that low of a dose" People will also say "low doses are harder on the body- you didn't do enough". In this thread, the user puporing claims to having almost died from boofing 15mg of 5meo. Leo responded: I can't help but feel like Leo was wrong. Without a proper facilitator, @puporing could have died. They could have passed out, vomited and choked, could've stopped breathing, could've had a seizure, could've tried to get up and fallen and hit his head. I feel they could've also gone into cardiac arrest. Puporing was also experimenting without a facilitator. I would go so far as to say you could die for real, even with an experienced facilitator, and they may not be able to save you. In the thread, people argue with puporing, saying that he/she would've been fine, that his/her former experiences of ego death were not ego death, and this was real ego death, etc. Puporing insists it was not just "struggling to breathe" but that he/she was suffocating. Puporing claims commenters were gaslighting their former trips and experiences of ego death in the past to claim "you were just experiencing ego death for the first time, you only thought you had experienced it before." I know ego death comes with a physical feeling of dying. This usually happens with ego-death. But part of the problem with 5meo-dmt is that the entire point of the drug is to "die". So in a sense, people will downplay the reports from people claiming to have "almost died". But I am trying to parse how much of this experience is actually BECAUSE you are dying physically, or are coming close enough to physical death that you are experiencing the ego dissolution, then as the drug wears off, you survive, and feel this "gratitude for life and appreciation for the dream" simply because you survived. Psychologically there are obviously dangers, but I'm more focused on real dangers to the body. A part of me wants to go back and explore this substance on a deeper level. There is some calling to try this again, or 5meo-MALT or DiPT if those are somehow safer. But this has freaked me the fuck out and I can't help but make this post. In Leo's video introduction of 5meo, he recommends snorting about 20mgs of 5meo for your first experience. I can't help but feel that this is incredibly dangerous, especially for a "normie" who might stumble across his video. Here is a link to the health problems reported from people on Erowid: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_5MeODMT_Health_Problems.shtml Seizure and convulsions from insufflation (15-25mg doses), Blacking out, flailing limbs, falling, Short term breathing problems during the experience, Long term breathing problems, Memory loss- short-term and long-term (think alzheimer's), Cardiovascular effects ( rapid heartbeat, slow heart beat, heart palpitations), Muscle spasms, Nausea are all reported. I will say most of these reports are from incorrect dosages or mixing with other drugs. DO NOT TAKE 5MEO WITH AN MAOI! DO NOT DO 5meo IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD PROPER SLEEP! There have been reported deaths from 5meo. Most people explain these away by saying it was in combination with other stuff, like ibogaine and MAOI's. Does anyone have an idea of the total number of deaths associated with this drug? There is at least one user on reddit I saw who claimed he died (for real) on 5meo. His heart stopped and he was resuscitated. I worry that there are many more associated deaths with 5meo that we simply are not aware of, and many more incidences of cardiac arrest and seizures that we aren't aware of. I don't know if there are other deaths going unreported? It seems very possible. When someone dies from a drug OD, do they always autopsy? This is a genuine question. I don't know why it feels like most people think this drug is generally safe. They preface this by saying "If you don't have heart problems or epilepsy you will be fine." But do you really know how healthy you are? Do you know if you have a heart complication? I understand that most people understand the risks but I can't help but feel like it is downplayed a lot, when we really don't know how dangerous this stuff would be if it were more popular, if there were more clinical studies, how many people would be admitted for seizures or cardiac arrest, how many people would be dead. If you search online, it's almost all positives of this drug, cures depression, anxiety, PTSD, alcoholism, etc. I feel like some of these sites or publications are biased, present all the studies showing the benefits of the drug, without mentioning potential death/danger. This that what worries me about Leo: -Leo has also said things like "You can't throw up when you haven't eaten anything for 4 hours in advance" seemingly trying to convince people not to worry about doing 5meo alone. But others here have claimed that they didn't eat in advance, and still ended up throwing up. This is concerning to suggest people are generally safe to do this drug alone without a facilitator if they don't eat in advance. -There is a video somewhere of Leo talking about doing 5meo while in his bathtub (incredibly dangerous behavior and irresponsible). -Leo did 5meo-DMT every day for 30 days (that's his choice but people look up to him and replicate his actions. To many people he is their spiritual guru) -Leo has health problems he is not disclosing to his audience after a long history with this substance. He has not discussed whether his health problems have anything to do with his 5meo use or drug use. If it is regarding his drug use he needs to disclose more information as he has many people following him thinking 5meo is safe. ---------------------------------------------------------- Random links: This article lists the effects of 5meo dmt, on sheep, cats, mice, and monkeys. Effects include lethal effects- staggers, ataxia, mydriasis, head nodding, sham rage, stringy salivation, tremors, convulsions, hypothermia, tachycardia, and respitory failure. It's safe to assume all these symptoms are possible for humans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3028383/ Seizure after 10mg dose- https://www.reddit.com/r/5MeODMT/comments/owsol7/looking_for_insight_on_first_5meo_experience/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Neurological Damage/Epilepsy- https://www.reddit.com/r/5MeODMT/comments/s2e6o6/can_5meodmt_cause_neurological_damage_or_epilepsy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button (This person claims 5meo is a poison, and caused neurological damage and epilepsy. He is wrong about the poison thing. I don't really believe his claims but don't want to dismiss his xperience either) Death from 5meo-DMT: https://academic.oup.com/jat/article-abstract/29/8/838/716730?redirectedFrom=PDF Death from 5meo-DiPT: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7366431_A_fatal_poisoning_with_5-methoxy-NN-diisopropyltryptamine_Foxy Rhabdomyolysis After Ingestion of 5meo-DiPT: https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)61905-8/fulltext Here's an article going in depth on Octavius Rettig, a gentleman responsible for deaths related to 5meo (he's a total psychopath). Be incredibly careful with facilitators who claim to know what they are doing. You may be going to a facilitator charging you thousands of dollars who could overdose you. They may not even know CPR. They could ruin your entire life: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/28/the-pied-piper-of-psychedelic-toads Dangers Of Excessive 5-MeO-DMT and How to Protect Yourself and Loved Ones From Harm | Chad Charles- Here is that same podcast criticizing Leo and his irresponsible approach. They mention a friend that died from doing 5meo- Any more useful links? ---------------------------------------------------------- I am trying to address this without fear-mongering. If it wasn't for this intuition I would just think 5meo is generally safe. But any drug that is playing with your heart, giving you difficulty breathing, and induces seizures is NOT SAFE! Does anyone have an idea of how many people have died from 5meo-DMT? I heard somewhere between 10-15 reported deaths. It seems incredibly difficult to get an accurate number. If I changed ROA would it be less intense and safer on the body? I thought this, and considered boofing or snorting, until I read puporing's report after boofing, and the report of the seizure after a 10mg insufflated dose. I am not a doctor or scientist. I am just some dude that likes psychedelics, so don't jump down my throat. But I feel completely insane when I see people talking about doing 5meo the way they do. Doing it very regularly at high doses or mixing with other drugs. Or doing it alone. People also like combining 5meo with MDMA. Seems incredibly dangerous. 5meo is addressed so casually here on this forum. I feel like we should stop acting like this is some magic drug for enlightenment that is "generally safe". I can't help but feel like this sentiment comes with a large amount of hubris. Most other psychedelics are safer than 5meo. I have experienced ego death on mushrooms and regular n,n-DMT. People sell 5meo as a magical "enlightenment drug" that will surely help your life and awaken you for good. This is not even true. I worry very strongly for the safety surrounding 5meo as this gets popular. P.S. I don't want to give Leo too hard of a time and had to edit to give Leo some love. Responsibility falls on the user, and Leo is navigating uncharted territory a lot of the time with these substances. He is a huge advocate for psychedelics, and he does an amazing job parsing this stuff. His intention is not to lead you into danger. It is your responsibility to be safe and have a proper foundation yourself. And if Leo is doing this drug alone, it is because he is particularly familiar with the drug. So as a listener or follower of Leo, don't just follow in Leo's footsteps, listen to your body and make sure you are doing it safely. You have to start at incredibly low doses and work up to a bigger dose. Get a mg scale, don't mix compounds, no MAOI's, and have a facilitator.

But isn't zero also a portal to infinity? You know, inflection points and all... also, I thought non-existence doesn't exist to even be included, yet what is 0? Nothingness, but a substrate nothingness instead of a non-existence nothingness? Is there nothing behind 0 that makes it so? Trippy!

@Camerong Only question being, how fast shall we do it? If we had a big red button that would instantly fulfill all desires, should we press it or continue at our pace? If we pressed that button, would we become nothingness/infinity/God without anything to do, since technically curiosity is also a desire, albeit a higher one to explore, and so would we not just start over from a lower level? Or do the levels continue up for infinity? Or is it infinitely down and up and sideways and there's not even a preference of direction, but merely of where we feel like going and evolving and navigating towards, granted our specific path and feelings that guide us?

Hello, I just watched "The enlightened self" video, and I tried to picture Leo as nothing. And it was just too hard, I see people as something different and apart, like they have their own qualities and they do other things. The only thing I could do there was picturing him as me, as part of my field of awareness, as if I was the person that was saying those things, I'm not sure if that's the right approach, because I can tell differentiating people gives me sort of the anxiety I've been holding for my whole life. (Funny I wrote "lie" instead of "life" and thought that would be a more appropriate way to say it) thanks jackyjoy

@PRai1ND1A Because triality will collapse into nothingness, balancing each other. That's why duality exists and triality doesn't. I don't even know how I wrote this as an answer.

@Leo Gura Hi Leo! I am very interested to know what you think of 5 meo dmt when it comes to experiencing nothingness. Have you changed your mind/believes since 5 years ago? I mean its seems like you are a big fan of psychedelics now, especially 5 MeO DMT. I am asking because I found this comment that belongs to you on a video you posted 5 years ago. I was quite shocked and thoughtful by seeing this comment. What do you have to say about it. Do you still stand by this or have you changed your mind? Personally I am a big fan of psychedelics and they have helped me so much in expanding my mind/consciousness. I dont see why psychedelics wont help much. I mean one high dose of 5 MeO will send you there!

I think this is one of the final frontiers before complete liberation beyond the dream. When I do yoga bandhas which you are supposed to hold the breathing, I go back to source, I stay that void nothingness trying to overpower any thought that might arise about 'needing to breath', until.... an explosion of fear-burning sensation in my chest happens and I automatically breath again. Is not a physical sensation, is literally the feeling of FEAR and Terror the body has. Is an automatic response built into the system.

I experienced the nothingness regularly a few years ago, but since then it disappeared and I haven't really been able to get the full blown experience again. I might need to mention that it was probably trauma induced (not sure it was a weird year). I don't think it is enough for me to just deconstruct reality and focus on the now. I believe that it's hidden by the "fear or dying" that's particularly strong in the region above the heart. Now I am kind of in a dilemma: I want to experience it without being able to go through the "death-part". I'm doing this sober, because even if I take mild psychedelics (like weed) and push through, I would have a panic attack and have a really bad time. I know that torturing the mind into the nothingness is probably the fastest way, but I don't think that's the right thing for me, because suffering+eternity=hell. I believe that the subconscious walls that block the nothingness is more fear than it is constructs and beliefs. Ironically I think that the thing that prevents me from accessing it (fear) is also the wormhole into the singularity. I will probably experience a little bit with the fear of dying and fear in general, but I was wondering what possible solutions you guys could have. Unfortunately the fear of death is reflected in a lot of aspects in life. I experience a lot of fear. Fear is also a lack of love. Any book recommendations on fear (of dying), fear of nothingness etc or good teachers that help to exterminate endangered egos like myself?

Hey guys! So iam having a bit of a problem with this " duality" I have experienced GOD and I know that I am it and we all are IT and it is power and creativity itself. Please recognize also that we are using language here as well so the word I and so forth will be used. So if infinite nothingness was the ultimate Truth there would be zero colours zero conciousness zero everything, if you try to wrap your head around Nothing you cant imagine it at all. But here comes the question of it. How can nothingness be if we obviously have conciousness and conciousness = Experience. God mind is the infinite dream machine. So, is it not that what we label as nothingness is god at rest? And there is nothing but its own essence in it self? No differentiation. Cause realize this, the impossibility of existence from infinite nothingness should be clear cause nothingness is is nothing and will always be nothingness. So GOD in that case is so above and transcended from existence that we can't even comprehend the kind of " existence" it is. Ive realized GOD but not nothingness so this is a mere philosophy. But we can say also that this here is nothing bla bla but ofcourse it is not. Not really. Literal Nothing is Literal Nothing and it is bullshit to say that everything is nothing. That I can even say that this is nothing iam using my conciousness and conciousness is not LITERAL nothing cause if it would, we would not have this conversation now. It is thingness itself in my book. Then you would have to exit infinity to recognize nothingness but see that is not possible cause then you would not even know that you had a realization like that. So to me it makes more sense thqt conciousness can assume the form of literal nothingness but it can also assume thr form of Infinite Imagination and infinite Mind. So what then is the Truth of them? If we came from LITERAL NOTHING, not void states or anything like it, no literal nothing, there is nothing in this state which can will anything into existence cause nothing is nothing. So from my own experience I can conclude that existence has always been, GOD is the Truth. Always forever exploring different creations. Please share what you think about this. And im not interested in hearing neo advaita views that this is nothing and everything is illusion and so forth.

I did about 6g's of shrooms yesterday. As I was peaking, I meditated deeply. As I focused inward, I was able to go very deep in meditation. Thoughts would come, I would acknowledge them, and let them go easily. Much more easily than my sober mind is usually capable. I have been listening to Shunyamurti a lot recently, who has helped me in that practice of not clinging. I entered into an incredibly blissful state. I forgot who I was in this state, and where I was physically. No ego death, maybe a sort of ego dissolution. Ego-death I have experienced in the past was much more intense, scary, and challenging, truly dying. In those states, there was no sense of ego or self whatsoever, complete non-duality. This wasn't quite that. It wasn't like 5meo-Dmt. It was more like I could bring myself in and out of this state. In this deep place of surrender, my mind would take me places, and I allowed it to go where it wanted. I just watched where my mind would go. It felt as if I was being shown certain things, and certain stuff was being communicated to me through a deep intuitive sense. This happens during regular meditation for me, but it felt so much easier now. For example, I felt intuitively that I could astral project very easily from this state. Then, I remembered my physical body sitting cross-legged in meditation in my living room. I got up from this position and walk around my living room. Then, I remembered I didn't actually get up, and found myself back in the nothingness of my mind, astonished and slightly scared that I was able to do this so easily. Again, same thing, I would convince myself I had gotten up, but then I would feel a sort of fear of this exploration, and return to my body. Like "Did I just get up? I'm supposed to be meditating cross-legged, not getting up. Oh wait, I didn't get up, I'm still sitting cross-legged." I have practiced a bit of astral projection before, but was never able to do it so easily. Also, I was able to explore other realms similar to n,n-DMT. I could enter this place upon surrender. Then, some thought would bring me back to my body. There was a bit of internal resistance and fear in letting go of course. As I would try to conceptualize the realm I was in, or even think about the realm, I was brought out of the realm. There were many patterns and there was an entity, but this realm is now hard to recall, sort of like a dream. I had been there before. I was aware that if I were to take higher doses, and do the same practice, I could explore these other realms very easily. Lastly, I felt intuitively that I could manifest objects into reality. Not just manifest good outcomes for myself in this material life, but literally manifest objects out of thin air, and will them into existence. That's where the strawberry came into my mind. For about an hour, I kept getting visions of a single strawberry intermittently. In my blissful state, I would leave my body through astral projection, have a thought which brought me back, dismiss the thought, drift away to some other realm for some amount of time, have a thought bringing me back, dismiss it, etc. Sometimes when I came back, there was a strawberry in my mind's eye. I dismissed it. Again, I drifted away, and back again I came, just to visualize a strawberry in my mind. This went on for quite some time. I wondered if I could will a strawberry into existence, right then and there. I knew I could wake up from this meditation with a strawberry in my hand. Intuitively, I knew this was possible. If only I could master this state of mind, this deep place, I could manifest a strawberry. After awhile, I felt like the effects were starting to wear off just a bit. Unfortunately, I didn't have a strawberry in my hand after coming out of the trance. I got up and looked around the living room. No sign of a strawberry. I checked my fridge for any strawberries. There were no strawberries, but there was an Arizona Iced Tea strawberry lemonade. I thought "Not good enough." I walked into the other room where my girlfriend was. She had taken a baby dose of the shrooms. She was having fun, but wasn't as high as me. I asked her what fruit I'm thinking of. I told her "Do not guess, think about it for a second. But don't think about it, just intuitively say what fruit I'm thinking of." She sat for about 30 seconds, smiled at me, and confidently said "a strawberry". Did she guess correctly? She said she kept thinking about different fruits, but kept coming back to the strawberry. She knew.

As you probably know, buddhists are against the idea that there are a permanent Ultimate Reality. The ultimate test for them is the state of cessation (nirodha samapatti) where everything disappears into nothingness. However, for Stephen Snyder, both cessation (unmanifested) and manifested reality are expressions of the Absolute. 01:18:40

So quick story short, Summary - Had so much stomach pain,decided to take 100mcg lsd p1 to stop the pain, because i knew in higher states of mind there is no pain. - Fell asleep - Deconstructed reality in my mind in nothingness, with this realization/knowing i woke up - Reality was different, my mind was controlling a lot of things. -feet, hands are perfect/devine , on every thing that i stepped changed with some energy patterns - Reality was changed and stable, for example my neighbours house had a white big teddybear hanging out of the window, when they (can't ) even open this window. It was built perfectly, no difference between real/unreal. - Decided to take my phone to make a picture, for some reason it was saying battery is low. - DECIDED TO PLUG IT IN TO RECHARGE, SAYS "YOUR PHONE IS TOO WET" CAN'T RECHARGE. And i never have had this error message before. So my request on behalf of all members is for @Leo Gura , to pin this thread. So we can research this topic further, and for members to try to make a "picture" in higher states of mind/consciousness. You can make a picture from your new realiy for example when you have noticed, that it is not actually in your reality like with the window thing.

That’s a straw man. Anyone can conceive of much worse fates. But suffering is a spectrum and that happens to be the worst I’ve got going on right now. It’s worse because it’s chronic and ruthless, unlike temporarily feeling hurt by some douchebag player who promised a relationship only to use you for a night.. Not only that but the game is rigged against us in such a way that we’re automatically assumed to be a threat until proven otherwise. Then there’s the valid worry of making one wrong move when it comes to physical escalation because it can cause legal consequences, pickup is supposed to be an act of flirting with women, not with sexual harassment lawsuits. When mistakes do cause us big trouble, we get fully blamed and told to improve instead of any attention getting placed on the sexist system itself. The issue goes far deeper than just not getting laid. No. Nothing at all. Same with everyone. What we call our “self” is just an outer projection of what we think we are, such as thoughts, feelings, preferences etc. But at the deepest level we’re nothingness, right? That’s what everyone who masters meditation says

The chicken, the road, and the crossing are all imaginary manifestations within infinite consciousness. There is no separate chicken, no actual road, and no real crossing - just consciousness imagining itself as this entire scenario. Leo Gura's Ontology: The Chicken Crossing the Road According to Leo Gura's perspective on reality, we could interpret the chicken crossing the road scenario as follows: 1. Everything is Consciousness: The chicken, the road, the act of crossing, and even the concept of "crossing" are all manifestations of consciousness. They are not separate physical entities but aspects of a unified, infinite consciousness. 2. Reality as Imagination: The entire scenario is imaginary. Not just in the sense of being a thought experiment, but in the deeper sense that all of reality, including what we perceive as physical, is an act of imagination by infinite consciousness. 3. No Separate Self: The chicken doesn't have a separate self that decides to cross the road. The chicken, as we conceive it, is part of the imagination of infinite consciousness. 4. Illusory Nature of Time and Space: The road, representing space, and the act of crossing, representing time, are both illusions created by consciousness. There is no actual movement happening, as everything exists within timeless, spaceless consciousness. 5. Radical Non-Dualit*: There is no real distinction between the chicken and the road. The apparent separation is part of the imaginary scenario created by consciousness. 6. Emptiness as the Ground of Being: The chicken and the road are manifestations appearing in the "emptiness" or "nothingness" of pure consciousness, much like images projected on a blank screen. 7. Infinite Possibilities: The chicken could potentially do anything, not just cross the road, because within infinite imagination, all possibilities exist simultaneously. 8. The Unborn and Undying Nature: The chicken was never really "born" and doesn't really "die". These are just concepts within the greater imagination of consciousness. In this view, asking "Why did the chicken cross the road?" is based on several misunderstandings: 1. That there is a separate chicken 2. That there is a separate road 3. That there is an act of crossing 4. That there is a "why" or reason within ultimate reality Instead, we might say: The chicken crossing the road is one of infinite scenarios being imagined by consciousness, which is what you truly are. You are not observing a chicken crossing a road; you are the infinite consciousness imagining itself as a chicken, a road, and the act of crossing, all simultaneously. This perspective radically challenges our conventional understanding of reality and identity, suggesting that the humor in the chicken joke arises from our misunderstanding of the true nature of reality. -- * Edit: Because the AI made a distinction between real and imaginary I emphasized that there is no distinction and this is what it gave: The chicken, the road, and the crossing are consciousness. The distinction between real and imaginary dissolves - all is equally real and equally imaginary within infinite consciousness exploring itself.

@Leo Gura Hi Leo! I am very interested to know what you think of 5 meo dmt when it comes to experiencing nothingness. Have you changed your mind/believes since 5 years ago? I mean its seems like you are a big fan of psychedelics now, especially 5 MeO DMT. I am asking because I found this comment that belongs to you on a video you posted 5 years ago. I was quite shocked and thoughtful by seeing this comment. What do you have to say about it. Do you still stand by this or have you changed your mind? Personally i am a big fan of psychedelics and they have helped me so much in expanding my mind/consciousness. I dont see why psychedelics wont help much. I mean one high dose of 5 MeO will send you there!

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Months ago I was suffering from extreme derealisation, I though the state would never pass away. I took a long break from meditation, self-inquiry etc. I have recently returned to daily mediation practices for about 2 months. I have been absolutely grounded in pure nothingness. It’s a totally different experience from derealisation. It’s like you’re grounded in emptiness, rather than reality being dream-like in a bad way. I honestly just wanted to share this to bring a sense of hope to people who are going through derealisation on the path. It can be overcome and you can become regrounded.

😂 lol. Well..everything is literally liberation..everything is absolute perfection and it will never be anything else. But does that mean that from the perspective of a human everything is equal ? Hell no . Yes you can spend your whole life going to the pub and fucking bitches and sniffing Cocaine etc but that's only gonna create negative karma and when you die you will be pulled back into a new body via reincarnation. And there is never gonna be an end to suffering for you. You will probably say it doesn't matter either ..but in fact it does matter to you as a human . If you are in god-mode 24/7 high on nothingness then you can speak of everything being already liberation 👍.

Jung didn't understand what is happening here. He uncovered that we have a shadow, but he didn't understand that the whole human mind is a shadow. The good part of the human mind is a mask the shadow puts on, not the other way around. He also didn't understand that it's unreal, a figment of the imagination, a shadowy identity, made out of nothing and doomed to return to nothingness. You can analyze the ego for all of your life and you will find infinite quirks, because it was born out of error and doesn't have a source. It's a bastard child.

It’s impossible to desribe a formless experience outside of all experience. Cessation as a word is accurate. Talking more about it would just remove us further from that non-experience. Cessation is a dead-end anyway. It’s a trap Buddha fell into and all those who follow his path. It’s just an “experience” of nothingness. Sure it feels like the mind and all the universe reset - so what? You will have to reincarnate again with this level of atainment. clowns like Frank Yang, Shinzen, Spira and most other teachers reach it and then preach it as enlightenment. Lol. read ACIM and start to learn true wisdom what enlightenment is. All other teachers are the messengers sent by the ego and will lead you only to death, a thousandth time.

Does the practice of shutting the mind ("think nothing" technique) mean you silence also your feelings and sensations? Let's say, for example, you are meditating outside when you start feeling a gentle breeze. Should you keep the focus on nothingness or move it to the breeze feelings?