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You are right. We don't need to interfere with your dream state. Your detachment from the Absolute. There's really no separation but the mind creates that; which is illusory. When @Razard86says we don't want to Awaken I totally understand now what he's pointing to. The character you've created doesn't want to "die" and is fighting to stay alive. Good news, it's OK because it doesn't exist. What exist is nothingness and everything else is just appearance. You're in luck, don't worry, don't be so serious, lighten up and relax. Even my comment was meant to be a joke and you couldn't see it as such. Thought is battling thought. That's all. Meditation is the mediator; so maybe it'll do you some good. Much ❤️

That essay explains that your need for a shorter essay is null and void and made of nothing. It's empty words appearing as a signature that arose from a non-sense, lack of appearance that appeared as words and your words are also made of the same thing and came from the same place which is a void of nothingness that lacks appearance that constructed itself into being which can disappear and reappear. No point in asking to shorten a construct that was constructed out of a blank void and a selfless self that constructed time, space, distinctions and other, so problem solved. Phew did I get that right, @Razard86doesn't matter as it is just a construct that came from a lack of appearance and appeared into an empty existence along with other empty existences which are made out of a lack of appearance that constructed other and time and space. Null and void. Problem solved. I think I went berserk in this time and space my constructed self constructed from nothingness which definitely doesn't lack appearance in this void of existence. Help!!

I've taken LSD about 30 times before. My procedure is to fast a few hours before dosing, as the trip comes on, my mouth feels numb, tingling sensation in my legs, neck and arms. I feel dreamy but not sleepy. After the physical effects grab my attention I start having a mental trip. My mind becomes malleable and flexible. Thoughts are externalized, I reflect on my past, present life circumstances and my family, I describe it as I'm about to step off a cliff or about to be killed. I isolate myself anywhere away from other people preparing to go deep and be free of distractions or influence. Once I'm alone I start crying and allowing the mind to run the movie of my life, I am grateful for my family and step out of the game of survival to enter a empty space of nothingness and void. Now is a time to sit, stretch and really have sex with reality. I am penetrated by visions and insights that are so mind boggling and extreme that I trust whatever happens I will allow it without resistance. Understanding of Life, Death, suffering and Transcendence flood my Being. And the highest I have reached is the revelation of God as Self. The come down is no issue other than psychological shock. Usually the next day I am down but I am never the same after each trip going forward but in a positive loving way. After realizing the dream is embedded in Self and that I am That I get inspired to live my life in the best way I can and to continue to play hide and seek for eternity. Let me know how you can relate, I'm glad I found you Leo and this community to virtually be around folks that are open minded and have experienced reality beyond the edge of ordinary normal low awareness existence.

Yoo my peeps! (Sorry for click bait title) Haha. I’m still deep in a shroom trip but had a beautiful awakening to awareness, God, formlessness, nothingness, wow. Such a healing trip. I took about 3 grams shrooms and there was a point when I stopped meditating to do some yoga, mostly just moving the energy in my body as needed and at some point I just awoke to the divine masculine and feminine within and they “merged:made love”. I don’t really know how else to explain it. I stared in the mirror and saw a king/warrior looking back at me just holding divine presence and strength. It was this wise MAN who just like knew and held me in completely acceptance and love. It’s like I was looking at my fully actualized self but I swear the thing in the mirror was like it’s own entity. This king/God that looked like me and was just holding unwavering presence for me. I walked around my village just amazed that this is a dream and we’re all these characters and there’s all these energies and facets to the dream and it’s wild and dangerous and light and love and so rich! Such a complex and detailed drama with infinite depth, also Women. Women are proof of God. Women are… :—@0 (yup) I went into the ocean for sunset and absolutely melted into the ocean. Laughing my ass off like a nut “It’s GOD, it’s GOD no fucking way, you can’t top this, no Oscar nominated movie comes even close to how this is unfolding!” Yelling into the ocean not giving half a fuck about anything. No problems no worries pure joy. I then went to a singing circle with the yoga school here. So much beauty. My heart opened and all insecurities just faded. There was a point where we were singing to the Goddess Shakti and I look around and there’s like 5 women just sitting around me. It’s like I was holding down the divine presence and center for these angels. Still tripping balls. I sang until I felt my heart literally open and I was no longer controlling anything it’s like consciousness was just flowing through me unimpended I had a moment of gratitude for you guys even though we don’t really know each other we’re kinda all in this journey together. And I appreciate most of you for your wisdom shared here, fuck it, even the trolls and whiners, love you guys too. shoutout to @ZenSwift for sharing your trip reports, in a weird way it helped me a lot. It gave me the courage to push through and dive in Lastly, mad love to @Leo Gura man, wow, everything you have done for me. I’m without words. All I can say is I’m so grateful to have stumbled upon your channel and THANK YOU for following your heart and vision life purpose and not giving a fuck about the barriers conditioning and human bullshit in the way. You are a serious badass mother fucker and I love you. You’ve helped me awaken to myself as God. No amount of money, sex, etc can be a bigger gift to another human being. I humbly send you the highest vibrations and love in life. Lastly, I hope we can make this forum a place to share more God awakenings in a communal and supportive manner. Maybe that’s already what was happening, probably, but let’s please stop bitching and judging each other so much. We’re all in this together and few others especially in the real world know what we know and understand what we do. Not trying to sounds cult like or superior, but it’s special. I hope we can show some serious love here to each other. Anyhoo, time to listen to music, smoke organic tobacco, and bliss out. Aho! PS. I think I’ve found the actual best music to trip to. It’s called Cura Journey Mix by Porangui and it opens channels and healing like I’ve never experienced. The man is a master. PSS I wrote this last night and never posted. Today I went to ecstatic dance in the jungle with my community and took a .7g dose. Full awakening to love, the dream, so divine. So much love so much peace so much authenticity. I danced with every woman I was interested in and didn’t let fear hold me back. The way this is all unfolding is literally too good to be true. It’s perfect

How do you go from "nothingness" to reincarnation as a whole new individual? There must still be something above that decides what to create. It's logical, if you become nothing and despite yourself become something totally new, it's because you are not God.

I think this guy explains it very well... I take the liberty of copy pasting this message that I think it goes well with the discussion in here... it's from Reddit from the Non Duality forum: Non Duality - There is Nothing but the ONE MIND - Drop ALL Dogma and Find Freedom! Discussion So I don't plan to make many more posts about anything like this because I finally saw it and I get it at long last. There is nothing left for me to learn, I don't mean this arrogantly. I just mean I get it! I am no longer interested in dogma or meditations or anything else. I have been in Void like states for the past week or so now. I am only writing this to help anyone who may of been lost like I was. Yes it was mind blowing too. It made me realize that the more I looked outside and the more I gained knowledge, the more lost I had become. I now get what Non duality is and what it isn't. It is not about ego deaths, awareness, observers or being observed. Even cliche terms like Enlightenment and Awakening do not touch upon it. It is none of those things and to use terms like these are to create dualities where there are none and to fall into extreme ignorance. All of these terms and concepts are the real illusions we must overcome. If I say today that I awakened. It means that tomorrow I can fall asleep again. I am now in some battle of being awakened vs being asleep. I am the One Mind that is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS! My mind is the source of being awakened and being asleep. To say I am awakened or enlightened is to stay highly ignorant and to create a duality where there are none. There is no ego to kill, to say I have an ego is to say there is an entity that exists apart from the One Mind. Anything I call an ego, is just a concept within the One Mind. The idea of an ego is another fantasy concept made up and imagined to be some kind of obstacle to be got rid of i.e - it is Complete nonsense. If you believe an ego exists, then you believe in something having some level of independent existence. There is nothing to be achieved, attained, gained or realized. These are all dualities again. Again, you are creating obstacles where there are none. Any of these terms hint that we must seek outside of ourselves to find the One mind, there is only the One mind. We simply need to see the Nature of our own mind, which is the One Universal Mind. Non duality is the realization that everything is merely a creation of the ONE MIND and we all share that ONE Mind. There is nothing else to get your head around or understand. That is Non duality in a nutshell. There is no Real or Illusion either, to say something is real or to say something is an illusion is to create a duality. To say something exists and something does not exist is another duality. Everything is just the One Universal Mind. Remove all your concepts, dogma, rituals and belief systems and simply See this and you then you will partake in the Void. The state where you no longer feel separate or independent, you know you are everything and everything is you. The place where you see that everything is just emptiness and nothingness, all attachment having vanished into thin air. The Void is the place where you truly FEEL FREE! It is not enlightenment or awakening it is FREEDOM from all concepts and belief systems. You simply know that All is just a creation within the ONE Mind. Your mind being the ONE Mind that creates all and is the Only Reality and Original Source of all things. A quote from Huang Po to finish - 'All the Buddhas and all sentient beings are nothing but the One Mind, beside which nothing exists. This Mind, which IS without beginning, is unborn (Unborn not in the sense of eternity, for this allows contrast with its opposite; but unborn in the sense that it belongs to no categories admitting of alteration or antithesis). and indestructible. It is not green nor yellow, and has neither form nor appearance. It does not belong to the categories of things which exist or do not exist nor can it be thought of in terms of new or old. It is neither long nor short, big nor small, for it transcends all limits, measures, names, traces, and comparisons. It IS that which you see before you-- begin to reason about it and you at once fall into error. It is like the boundless void which cannot be fathomed or measured. The One Mind alone is the Buddha, and there is no distinction between the Buddha and sentient things, but that sentient beings are attached to forms and so seek externally for Buddhahood. By their very seeking they lose it, for that is using the Buddha to seek for the Buddha and using mind to grasp Mind.'

You've all heard of solipsism and many in forum actively defend solipsism as truth. Why solo? We might be on the same boat that there is only 1 consciousness (even if there are many minds). But it is 1 consciousness, because it is literally Emptiness, or Nothingness, or 0, so you cant really talk about it beginning, ending, or dividing it. So the correct term then should not be Solipsism if you believe in that 1 consciousness, it makes much more sense to call it Nonipsism. Not one entity that dreams it all, which is what the word Solipsism implies. Consciousness is literally no one, we can't talk about Solipsism, if there is no Solo. Solipsism is the ego running away with truth, in my personal point of view.

Didn't you get the memo? Fighting over literally nothing is Nothingness' favorite pastime.

I've been contemplating this... Don't know about addiction. But about procrastination, you're already assuming there's things you gotta do. And those things are often things you'd rather avoid for reasons unknown. You may love it, in some sense. But yet it's hard to bring yourself to do it. Recently I've entered a different territory. And it's been difficult to preserve the meaning in anything I do. I eventually gave up trying to build meaning. What can be easily broken is better off broken. The truth is, vision is a poor substitute for awareness. My only goal these days is to preserve my awareness and pass a certain threshold. No real reason why. It's not even worth calling a goal. Because it's not. It should be natural. But this again, like you said is extremely difficult to do, when the energy is pulled in many different directions. And I have to constantly remind myself. I'm terribly disappointed by human standards of living. It's partially because I want everyone to have a different, more evolved norm. But realising how unrealistic it is. And how much it will hinder their survival and they can't afford it. For me, it was, so far I've built my interests by following my heart and ignoring every little motivation factor from outside. Now, I feel utterly lonely, I realised the place I've reached is so lonely. And this is the place I call home. And been losing friends from my life on a high speed. May be procrastination is a coping mechanism to go back to the world's norms.. And a way to preserve my empathy for the world.. And be a part of it.. like an actual part, of the group. There's only 2 things, which can break this. A strong ego, or a strong nothingness. Both will do. Ego is easier to summon, but hard to maintain. And nothingness takes a bit of work and pain sucking.. but less energy is needed to preserve it. I guess drugs are a failed way of preserving one or the other.. same for any addictions. Life purpose is equivalent of building a strong ego and maintaining it. Higher learning requires you be fluid.. But survival requires you be grounded and be blind in a way. That is if you're going the ego route.

What's the connection between the two? Why being nothing makes you infinitely intelligence?

Correct, i share this view. When sense of self is gone, there is not a possibility of being alone, because the self constructed everything, including world, others, reality, time, etc. Enlightment is complete death, which is why most of us are never enlightened, Only "states" of consciousness or "enlightment experiences". After a while Sort of sense of self has to build in order to keep playing illusion, if not physical body can not be hold for long time. So we are moving there, i think. Every one of us is a limb of the Nothingness Consciousness, little by little more awareness is being stablished. The goal is the dream one day Will come to an end. Whole world came from nothing and Will go back to nothing. But...the gift (or curse?) Of apparent individual experience comes from a freedom of choice of when you want to exercise that freedom Yourself. Every being goes at is own pace... altough the beings are imaginary yes, there is Only the Nothing.

Consciousness isn't nothingness or 0. It is existence, Love, and awareness. It is complete and whole. It is indivisible Oneness. This dream, an illusion of multiplicity, is the opposite of that Oneness.

@James Swartz Did you discover answers to the most important questions in life? Like: The reason behind the creation of the universe? What is God/Self? Is life a dream, an illusion, maya? What is the practical process of coming back home (to Self)? How do we break the cycle of birth and death? If God is perfect Love and the Creator of this domain, why is there suffering, pain, and death? Are you aware of the activities of the unconscious mind and the thought system that is hidden there? Is life made out of vibrations? Is the universe infinite? Is the theory of multiverse correct? Is it holographic? Does manifestation work? Is diet important in awakening? Was Buddha enlightened? If so, why didn't he mention that God is Love? Perhaps he was mistaken and finished his journey by only attaining nothingness aka cessation?

Hi @Leo Gura & Everyone else! I hope you are doing well. After years of Spiritual Practice or after taking Psychedelics, When we all reach a state where we experience nothingness, pure beingness at the same time we also feel and experience that this Nothingness being is Me my Higher Self. And then we call it GOD. We say I am Nothingness, Consciousness, Pure Beingness, I am GOD. What if we are misunderstanding the Our Nothingness / Consciousness with GOD? What If I (Consciousness /Being) is not GOD but I (Consciousness /Being) is a Creation of GOD from his infinite creations? What is Nothingness is actually our last boundary wall or our ultimate limitation from which we can't go beyond? What if GOD has created a very powerful Creation named "Being" Which can itself create infinite possibilities in itself Like Mind, Body & World....? That is already understood that We are not a body, We are not a mind, not a world but we are pure powerful Transparent formless conscious beings who can create their own Mind, Body & World. What if GOD is apart from his creations: "Beings"? To better understand what I am saying, please check the following attached Diagrams made by me: Waiting for responses. Thanks

Any emotional state is infinite. I wouldn't advise seeking a wider spiritual experience with other emotions unless you are very well grounded. I've experienced: Infinite Nothingness. Infinite bliss. Infinite sorrow. All of them were me.

Hello, I just watched "The enlightened self" video, and I tried to picture Leo as nothing. And it was just too hard, I see people as something different and apart, like they have their own qualities and they do other things. The only thing I could do there was picturing him as me, as part of my field of awareness, as if I was the person that was saying those things, I'm not sure if that's the right approach, because I can tell differentiating people gives me sort of the anxiety I've been holding for my whole life. (Funny I wrote "lie" instead of "life" and thought that would be a more appropriate way to say it) thanks jackyjoy

@Leo Gura Hi Leo! I am very interested to know what you think of 5 meo dmt when it comes to experiencing nothingness. Have you changed your mind/believes since 5 years ago? I mean its seems like you are a big fan of psychedelics now, especially 5 MeO DMT. I am asking because I found this comment that belongs to you on a video you posted 5 years ago. I was quite shocked and thoughtful by seeing this comment. What do you have to say about it. Do you still stand by this or have you changed your mind? Personally I am a big fan of psychedelics and they have helped me so much in expanding my mind/consciousness. I dont see why psychedelics wont help much. I mean one high dose of 5 MeO will send you there!

I experienced the nothingness regularly a few years ago, but since then it disappeared and I haven't really been able to get the full blown experience again. I might need to mention that it was probably trauma induced (not sure it was a weird year). I don't think it is enough for me to just deconstruct reality and focus on the now. I believe that it's hidden by the "fear or dying" that's particularly strong in the region above the heart. Now I am kind of in a dilemma: I want to experience it without being able to go through the "death-part". I'm doing this sober, because even if I take mild psychedelics (like weed) and push through, I would have a panic attack and have a really bad time. I know that torturing the mind into the nothingness is probably the fastest way, but I don't think that's the right thing for me, because suffering+eternity=hell. I believe that the subconscious walls that block the nothingness is more fear than it is constructs and beliefs. Ironically I think that the thing that prevents me from accessing it (fear) is also the wormhole into the singularity. I will probably experience a little bit with the fear of dying and fear in general, but I was wondering what possible solutions you guys could have. Unfortunately the fear of death is reflected in a lot of aspects in life. I experience a lot of fear. Fear is also a lack of love. Any book recommendations on fear (of dying), fear of nothingness etc or good teachers that help to exterminate endangered egos like myself?

There's no actual process. Just appear that way. There's no actual space or time, how can there be an actual process, but only within the dream. The dream of separation. There's no separation within the Absolute, its already whole and complete. Yea, to the meaning that there's no meaning to what already is. It doesn't need a meaning to be what it is already. The story doesn't exist. To exist means to stand out. Where is the story that stands out from anything else. Is made of nothing. This implies separation. There is none. It's illusory to the dreamer. Nothing to be conscious of if it's whole and complete. What's that? I've only heard the term through Spiritualists. Never knew what I've come to recognize had a name. What is false freedom. Doesn't matter if the dreamer thinks it's free or not free. The Absolute is free to appear as "false freedom". There's nothing but the Absolute which is already free. A person who thinks it's free is in no better of a position than one who thinks it's not. It may only lead to a better experience, which is ultimately not even happening. The form cannot be annihilated because it's just an appearance. It can only appear to be annihilated. Both collapses into nothingness. Existence cannot be defined because the words used are also it. There is no balance in wholeness. Completeness. It's already done. You see, I'm not speaking from some non-dualistic teaching that you assuming I got from some Neo whatever. It has become pretty obvious what this is. All you're saying is what seems to appear within this wholeness and what you assume about what's happening with what's appearing, IS THE STORY.

Hey guys! So iam having a bit of a problem with this " duality" I have experienced GOD and I know that I am it and we all are IT and it is power and creativity itself. Please recognize also that we are using language here as well so the word I and so forth will be used. So if infinite nothingness was the ultimate Truth there would be zero colours zero conciousness zero everything, if you try to wrap your head around Nothing you cant imagine it at all. But here comes the question of it. How can nothingness be if we obviously have conciousness and conciousness = Experience. God mind is the infinite dream machine. So, is it not that what we label as nothingness is god at rest? And there is nothing but its own essence in it self? No differentiation. Cause realize this, the impossibility of existence from infinite nothingness should be clear cause nothingness is is nothing and will always be nothingness. So GOD in that case is so above and transcended from existence that we can't even comprehend the kind of " existence" it is. Ive realized GOD but not nothingness so this is a mere philosophy. But we can say also that this here is nothing bla bla but ofcourse it is not. Not really. Literal Nothing is Literal Nothing and it is bullshit to say that everything is nothing. That I can even say that this is nothing iam using my conciousness and conciousness is not LITERAL nothing cause if it would, we would not have this conversation now. It is thingness itself in my book. Then you would have to exit infinity to recognize nothingness but see that is not possible cause then you would not even know that you had a realization like that. So to me it makes more sense thqt conciousness can assume the form of literal nothingness but it can also assume thr form of Infinite Imagination and infinite Mind. So what then is the Truth of them? If we came from LITERAL NOTHING, not void states or anything like it, no literal nothing, there is nothing in this state which can will anything into existence cause nothing is nothing. So from my own experience I can conclude that existence has always been, GOD is the Truth. Always forever exploring different creations. Please share what you think about this. And im not interested in hearing neo advaita views that this is nothing and everything is illusion and so forth.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Your words are also love. A nothingness form of love.

A small passage from my I-Ching consultation yesterday,,, This line can also refer to a person who, in following a spiritual path, has not experienced the benefits he expected. Instead of questioning whether he has been following the correct path, he interprets the counsel "to return" as saying that he has not tried hard enough, and needs to try harder. He must recognize that a spiritual path, as described in the main text, is a forward-leading path that leads to more and more separation from his true self, as he tries to become something special (i.e., a "spiritual being"). The path of return indicated by this hexagram is the path of divesting oneself of all self-images and attempts to be special. The person needs also to rid himself of the blame spell he has put on himself for not doing enough. (See p. 550, Deprogramming Procedure.) Pertinent correlation from Almaas’ Teaching- Ending Up with a Mental Image for an Identity An important question remains unanswered: Why, when Being or its aspect of space is lost, is what remains nothingness and not something else? In other words, why do we end up with emptiness and not another content of experience? To answer this question we have to discuss the point at which psychodynamics touches phenomenology. We need to see how psychodynamic processes—which are processes in time—affect felt phenomena—which always involve spatially experienced objects of perception. We first consider how specifically the loss of space leads to deficient emptiness.pace is lost as the mind takes self-image for identity. We have seen that this leads to the building of boundaries in the openness of space. The final result is that instead of the experience of Being without mental images, one ends up with a mental image for an identity. So instead of space being pervaded by Being it gets filled with a self composed of many self-representations. Now, what is the phenomenon of space when it is filled with the self? In other words, what is the mind filled with the psychic structure? On the surface it is the usual experience of the personality with its various manifestations. But, at the core, it is the deficient emptiness. The Void, pg. 135 We Know Ourselves From the Veil of Memory The mental images and attitudes that determine how we experience ourselves form the basis of a whole implicit worldview. We also experience ourselves only indirectly, as a subject experiencing an object. We are aware of ourselves as an object like other objects, seeing ourselves in the world as one object among others. Even when one is aware of oneself as perceiver or subject, this perception is different from the direct sense of our facticity, from the fact of our existence. We still know ourselves from the veil of memory. The Point of Existence, pg. 21

Everyone makes it so complicated. Nothingness is a blank. Right now look all around you, notice that everything you see is within a blank. A blank cannot be detected by the senses, it cannot be perceived. When you go in deep sleep, it's a blank. So BEING, is so nothing, it doesn't exist as an appearance. Then there is knowledge, what we call appearance. To know a thing is to observe a thing. So creation is the birth of knowledge. So existence, is knowledge itself. But what is knowledge comprised of? Knowledge is made of being, an existence that is prior to appearance. So the biggest mind fuck of all is you can exist as nothing in particular. But if you do not exist as something in particular....you have no knowledge. So the embrace of non appearance as existence is to realize that appearance is literally made up of NON-APPEARANCE. This means you cannot die because you were never an appearance anyway. And death is just the expansion into a greater appearance, the unlimited unknowing self, with the unlimited all knowing self. This is Absolute Truth in its totality where everything is known as being. So it has complete self knowledge and complete awareness of its being at the same time. It has absolute control and it realizes why it gave that control to expression and knowledge of love with the full force of its intelligence.

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