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best not to attack it but rather let it be and see through its nothingness attack is a trap

@Ishanga there are two things nothing and something, there are two seperates nothing and something there is a void of nothing and there is a simulation. thats how you differentiate them. If you are experiencing something you are in the simulation if you arent you are experiencing nothing outside of the simulation. You are the link between them. You are God both states conciousness. Nothingness. and everything. You are 100 percent focused on your reality because you are creating it.

To my own mental delight and horror everything is absolutely both true and false, limits/destruction are what create "special" or specific infinity, we exist in the ocean between total infinity and nothingness and know everything(the moment) and nothing(the future and the past), almost sounded cool there. Integrating destruction into love, acknowledging absolute horror and accepting all hate as itself, the most supremely difficult and weirdest of tasks, but respecting the timing of each moment as bad is good and good is bad, becoming bigger to include more but also to be able to destroy more and becoming smaller to accept the creativity of the weirdest(the other and other things), to escape harm and to give space for others to be big. Wasting each other's time or immortalizing them, destroying each other's sadness and misery and uplifting them, being biased and creating problems, joining and betraying, playfully and sometimes never able to take it back. Hating each others quirks in the name of love and playfulness. Letting everyone hate the way they are, giving them the infinite space and time we(them) deserve without losing sight of absolute love. Optimistic, meaningful butchering of each other for basic sustainment and supreme bliss, edging on the voluntary on part of the victims but accepting it's part of defeat to be consumed as it is a game but never lowering the intensity of the desire for revenge against our captors and defilers. Working towards changing the fundamental rules of reality and succeeding but forgetting them the very next moment as if it never meant anything as your own rage was nothing else but the primordial suffering that will never be accepted, going completely beyond all for the real impossible and the true ultimate, turning the fake into real, having your cake and eating it too, being down to earth and sensible as supremely real as any cosmic joke and doing it all again even though time might no longer exist for that moment. Sorry hahahahahaha. I'm high from the Caffè latte.

Hello, I just watched "The enlightened self" video, and I tried to picture Leo as nothing. And it was just too hard, I see people as something different and apart, like they have their own qualities and they do other things. The only thing I could do there was picturing him as me, as part of my field of awareness, as if I was the person that was saying those things, I'm not sure if that's the right approach, because I can tell differentiating people gives me sort of the anxiety I've been holding for my whole life. (Funny I wrote "lie" instead of "life" and thought that would be a more appropriate way to say it) thanks jackyjoy

You see ..any form of life will inevitably die..agree ?including your physical body which we know will eventually pass on But the ever existent conscious state that the physical body came from will always exist and the conscious essence that the body came from is ever present. And what that is ..is nothingness. So we Humans..(or any life form for that matter)can not die completely ..It simply returns to the primal and forever existing nothing. The universe exists and doesn't exist simultaneously. You are not awake so you are deluded by maya.

@Leo Gura Hi Leo! I am very interested to know what you think of 5 meo dmt when it comes to experiencing nothingness. Have you changed your mind/believes since 5 years ago? I mean its seems like you are a big fan of psychedelics now, especially 5 MeO DMT. I am asking because I found this comment that belongs to you on a video you posted 5 years ago. I was quite shocked and thoughtful by seeing this comment. What do you have to say about it. Do you still stand by this or have you changed your mind? Personally I am a big fan of psychedelics and they have helped me so much in expanding my mind/consciousness. I dont see why psychedelics wont help much. I mean one high dose of 5 MeO will send you there!

If two cars are driving next to each other at excactly the same speed, both cars would appear to stand completely still from both of their perspectives. If one of the cars were to stop however, change would be observed from both ends. Since reality is ever changing, it likewise follows that there has to be something that is unchanging, for reality to be ever changing. and that unchanging reality is the infinite nothingness behind your back, behind every experience. Consciousness, awareness, nothingness, call it what you want. If this nothingness/consciousness were NOT unchanging, existence would stand completely still, since there would be no contrast between changing and unchanging. Just like the two cars driving at the same speed, appearing to stand still

I experienced the nothingness regularly a few years ago, but since then it disappeared and I haven't really been able to get the full blown experience again. I might need to mention that it was probably trauma induced (not sure it was a weird year). I don't think it is enough for me to just deconstruct reality and focus on the now. I believe that it's hidden by the "fear or dying" that's particularly strong in the region above the heart. Now I am kind of in a dilemma: I want to experience it without being able to go through the "death-part". I'm doing this sober, because even if I take mild psychedelics (like weed) and push through, I would have a panic attack and have a really bad time. I know that torturing the mind into the nothingness is probably the fastest way, but I don't think that's the right thing for me, because suffering+eternity=hell. I believe that the subconscious walls that block the nothingness is more fear than it is constructs and beliefs. Ironically I think that the thing that prevents me from accessing it (fear) is also the wormhole into the singularity. I will probably experience a little bit with the fear of dying and fear in general, but I was wondering what possible solutions you guys could have. Unfortunately the fear of death is reflected in a lot of aspects in life. I experience a lot of fear. Fear is also a lack of love. Any book recommendations on fear (of dying), fear of nothingness etc or good teachers that help to exterminate endangered egos like myself?

Brother, I think you were tired, read my comment again you replied to. I want to help you, but if you fail to grasp anything im saying, I think im just wasting energy I can spend elsewhere. I expect from you the courtesy to not twist my words and reply with things that are not based on what I said. I never said aanything about people being irrelevant. Also, stop talking about "Lack of something", no one has that definition of nothingness, perhaps you did, hence why I told you thats not what nothingness is. You are trying to weasel your way by not replying to my exact messages. It feels violating towards my effort to correct obvious errors.

The misconception and mistreatment of the idea “nothing” Here is nothing👉( WRONG) The term here implies a place, a location, some kind of coordinate etc. The term “be”, “to be”, implies an act or condition for something. NOTHING IS NOT SOMETHING. Nothing will not be here later because nothing is not a thing that can do things, like “to be” somewhere. One classic theory about existence is that there is some kind of origin, some kind of beginning. And before there was an existence there was a nothingness, a state or condition of no existence. Then you are going to hear that out of this non existence, springing forth from the nothingness, an existence emerged. Let us accurately clarify this theory. To have a beginning there must be some point that distinguishes or acts like a border or dividing line between that which has begun and whatever there is before it has begun. Something can’t come from nothing. Nothing or nothingness is not an actual thing to call “nothing” something cannot share a border with nothing. Nothing is not an actual thing that is distinguishable, we can not say that something begins from nothing or begins after or separate from nothing. Nothing and nothingness are not states or conditions or anything. The literal definition of nothing is that it does not exist, it is not a thing, it is not something that was or is or will be etc. Nothing is not something that things can emerge from.

Hey guys! So iam having a bit of a problem with this " duality" I have experienced GOD and I know that I am it and we all are IT and it is power and creativity itself. Please recognize also that we are using language here as well so the word I and so forth will be used. So if infinite nothingness was the ultimate Truth there would be zero colours zero conciousness zero everything, if you try to wrap your head around Nothing you cant imagine it at all. But here comes the question of it. How can nothingness be if we obviously have conciousness and conciousness = Experience. God mind is the infinite dream machine. So, is it not that what we label as nothingness is god at rest? And there is nothing but its own essence in it self? No differentiation. Cause realize this, the impossibility of existence from infinite nothingness should be clear cause nothingness is is nothing and will always be nothingness. So GOD in that case is so above and transcended from existence that we can't even comprehend the kind of " existence" it is. Ive realized GOD but not nothingness so this is a mere philosophy. But we can say also that this here is nothing bla bla but ofcourse it is not. Not really. Literal Nothing is Literal Nothing and it is bullshit to say that everything is nothing. That I can even say that this is nothing iam using my conciousness and conciousness is not LITERAL nothing cause if it would, we would not have this conversation now. It is thingness itself in my book. Then you would have to exit infinity to recognize nothingness but see that is not possible cause then you would not even know that you had a realization like that. So to me it makes more sense thqt conciousness can assume the form of literal nothingness but it can also assume thr form of Infinite Imagination and infinite Mind. So what then is the Truth of them? If we came from LITERAL NOTHING, not void states or anything like it, no literal nothing, there is nothing in this state which can will anything into existence cause nothing is nothing. So from my own experience I can conclude that existence has always been, GOD is the Truth. Always forever exploring different creations. Please share what you think about this. And im not interested in hearing neo advaita views that this is nothing and everything is illusion and so forth.

I meant enlightenment in a joking way here btw. But if you believe people think that nothing means lack of something, why do you think that? Were you not one of those people? Or other people have told you? I have a mathematical mind. I take things literally, there is big difference between lack of Something and lack of Anything. Its not a trivial difference. Lack of a lamp still is within space and time. To have nothing you need to remove the space and time as well. Now we talking! There are no games I play. Nothing means non existence? But you say it in a way to say that it is irrelevant because it doesnt exist. And that people who talk about nothingness are clearly talking about something irrelevant, right? That which is outside of space and time is the most relevant, when it comes to spirituality

No, you said "people think nothing is lack of something", thats what I reply to. When you are defeating stick figures, its easy! Sure I couldve worded my post better, but the meat of the post remains. I mean if you think that people think nothing is lack of something, that thats what you yourself "believed" before your enlightenment that nothingness does not exist..

Nothing is not lack of something. Nothing is lack of ANYTHING. No qualities, no size, no shape, no location, no ANYTHING. You can't see Nothing. Obviously. And by Not seeing it, you Are seeing it. Its equivallent! Nothingness does not exist and nothingness exists are two equivallent statements. Did you disagree with me that 5= 5+0? Also, if we come back to what I just wrote... but change to: Awareness/Consciousness has No qualities, no size, no shape, no location, no ANYTHING. Thats super Sus! It appears you are nothingness and deny your own existence, because you take yourself to be the something that exists within you! Thats super fascinating! Thats why I said, it doesnt exist, but its verifiably real. You thought they were joking that mind cannot get it?

yea you could say nothing is the back of your head. thats the same as deep sleep imo. but yes i think ultimately we agree. True nothingness does not exist. but nothingness can be experienced and thus it does exist,but in virtue of it being experiencable (word?) and existing, its not true nothingness.

well. i would say in deep sleep you aren't aware of neither of those things. its completely without qualities. however i will agree with you, its not true non existence, since when you wake up, you are aware there was a period in which all phenomena ceased. true non existence could be said to be THIS right here. because its not here. an eternity of true non existence could elapse during every single moment of existence, and there would be absolutley no difference in how we experienced life. because it would not exist. true non existence cannot be. but Nothingness can be experienced. nothingness is the ceasing of all phenomena, which is deep sleep. yet it is still something

You are right that consciousness can become a paradox, but they can only become paradox for things that exist. You can then understand this next statement: It is impossible for there to be nothing, which means, there is no such thing as nothing and nothingness. In terms of existence, there is no such thing as an actual nothing. It is impossible for a non existence to exist. It’s really an amazing brilliant, beautiful absolute nature; The only way I can prove a non existence is if there is actually an existence. I need there to be an existence in order to suggest or consider or believe that there is no existence. The moment I prove there is no existence is the moment I actually prove that there is. Only things that exist can prove that there is no existence

Existence is all inclusive and nothingness it all exclusive. Nothing can be a center between polarities or the self-destruction key of a paradigm! Interesting. you're attempting a Probable-Actualized Duality-Axis! I myself call it the "Levels of Reality Actualization" materializing reality out of pure imagination! Makes sense to me, therefore everything always was like all moves of a chessgame in a superposition.

Firstly, BreakingTheWall is a good rhyno that likes to break walls, for the joy of breaking walls. I have no problem with it! I respect it! Now, for the juicy bit. I'll speak to you in matrix code. 1010101010. 1, is the masculine. 0, is the feminine. 1 is form, 0 is formless. 1 is the manifested, 0 is the unmanifested. Where does your thought arise from and subside to? Did it not appear out of the naughy *nothingness* you seem to fear so much? Guys open up for the feminine energy, the masculine and the feminine are one, intertwined. If you are going to bully the 0, what sort of 1 are you?

nothingness does not exist, because it would be limited to nothing. If there are no limits, at a given moment, there is something, and then something else, and in the end there is everything

"if non existence existed" not saying that, im saying Consciousness doesn't exist. Everything exist within it, the illusory world / dream. You mentioned emptiness exists within Consciousness, I'm saying emptiness is consciousness. Nothingness just another word for emptiness. Consciousness doesn't exist, as mentioned, exist stemming from existere meaning to Stand Out. Consciousness is not an object. You can say an object exists, that includes feeling / thought / anything, you can't say that that which is not an object exists. Thank you vm!

naah! You just trying to get it with the mind. Emptiness = nothingness. What are you imagining when you say emptiness? A big baloon full of air? remove the boundaries, its not a thing. Doesn't exist

The purpose of life is to get attached to reality then detach. Detachment means all thoughts about others and then all thoughts about yourself. Reality as one flickering ball of imagination. Or getting back to staring at nothingness.

At the end, we must realize that nothing lasts forever. Only forever itself. We must go back to nothingness once again - and begin anew. There is nothing else for forever to do. To be at peace with this- to say goodbye with heavy hearts to the constructions we have built - that is probably the hardest thing one can do. Castles in the sand.

ive been delving into the subject the past few days, and the term has very different meanings depending on the tradition. from what i gather, the theravada buddhists believe you just merge into vast Nothingness / for ever non existence / deep sleep. Then there are people like Osho, who take the term Nirvana / Mukti / liberation to be a complete merging with all of existence. Existing for ever as the universe itself. This is much aligned with leos teachings. I can't quite decipher what someone like Sadhguru means with the term liberation. I stumbled upon this article, and isolated it seems that to him Liberation is simply non existence https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/samadhi-to-go-beyond-existence It can be interpreted in different ways. there are other articles where he clearly states that all that is lost after Liberation is the individual identity, and that life itself goes on just being Life. Quite generally this seem to be the Hindu understanding of Liberation, and also other variants of buddhism, such as mahayana to be fair im pretty mindfucked atm. seems like quite a bummer if the purpose of existence is to get rid of it lol. My take is that ultimately, whereever we end up, it has to be the same place that got us here in the first place. Say you dismantle your karma totally, and end up in non existence - whats to prevent that non existence from popping into existence again? it must be the same thing that spawned you in the first place whats your guys' take on this?