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This mostly applies to the Human World, no other Life form suffers as much or intensely as Humans do and can, so its a Human problem, and I partly agree with what You said, there are way more ppl suffering today than are Peaceful or at Bliss, and the #'s are higher than ever, but we have all the comforts and conveniences one would want to have, so its a paradox, its forcing us to look inside ourselves and take charge, because all the suffering happens within ourselves, no where else, so its a individual as well as group thing, each individual has to take responsibility for being how they want to BE, and not look for it outside themselves, that alone will changes things... It is depressing to say the least to see how this world is, I see it everyday, its hard at times to have hope and want to stick around to see how it all turns out at times...

So, I’ve done most of what can be done to get enlightened. Long retreats, shaktipat, various techniques, and so on. I’ve reached various attainments like cessation that some call enlightenment, but it’s just breadcrumbs compared to the cake of enlightenment you can reach with psychedelics. The hypothesis: You can get enlightened to the highest level via divine substances, but you have to be there for long periods of time, I’m talking months, to callibrate, to soak it up, to make it your home, to learn how to live this new life, and then you can stay there. The “clinical trial”: I will injest medium to high dose of shrooms/lsd/other every or every other weekend and I will follow their guidance how to live to maintain that state. From my experience, it’s a life of ultimate, original creativity mixed with the deepest stillness and bliss. My mind and body are healed there. It’s heaven. It’s also a natural life - alot of nature, pure, light foods, and so on. But it’s all intuitive. I noticed that if I follow what I am guided to do, I can stay awake for many nights without any negative effects, with continuous bliss and a clear mind, coupled with a non-dual or close to a non-dual, beautific state. I think you can’t penetrate into higher levels using meditation or any other technique, as you’re trying to solve an issue from the same level. You need help from above. It’s also not recommended to anyone who hasn’t trained their mind to a high level, because the mind grows more powerful the higher the state, so you MUST control it near perfectly or bad things can happen. You have to know how to maintain a positive, conscious inner state. You have to be savvy in the realm of higher states, which comes from training your mind and from dozens of trips. You also havo to understand the power of the mind. You can trick yourself completly and utterly there. If you believe demons will get ya - they will! Literally! You have to control your mind perfectly and only perfection will manifest. Otherwise, it’s the story of the Son who stole his Father’s heavenly horses and destroyed the earth. I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone tbh, only to myself as I know my level of training and I’ve done many many trips. Preparation; I know that I will feel miserable in a higher state if I enter it without preparing my body. To do so, I’m doing a 3-week fruit detox to purify my system. Daily time in nature and alot of yoga as well. Retaining my, ammm, let’s just say no sexual thoughts and similar stuff. Also doing a mental detox: using the internet only for enlightenment stuff and work. Staying conscious throughout the day. Maintaining a positive attitude. Not judging anyone or anything. Closing thoughts: The last time I did lsd I stayed in an enlightened or an almost enlightened state for 3-4 days. No sleep, little food, only beauty, love, perfection. No side effects after. I did have to live a life where I follow what my intuition says I need to do to stay there. Spent nights in nature. Was amazing and beautiful. It’s such a huge shift from a mid life to a perfect life that it’s uncomfortable. Disorienting. But after alot of visits I feel less and less confused. I hope to stay there and live that new, higher level life. We’ll see how it goes. If I see that it’s working I might create videos as it’s so fun to share original, conscious, positive, fresh thoughts that arise from a higher level of consciousness. If it works I will be maximally happy, as then, it turns out that I don’t need to work towards enlightenment for many thousands of hours via meditation as I though, but it can be given just like so. 🙏🙏 What’s better than getting Heaven with no effort? 😁

Please don't get hung up on the terms, words, labels and what they should be called. Concentrate on the underlying message and what I'm trying to point to. There's only One. God/Absolute/The All etc.. It's Infinite. We are all expressions of that. There are levels to existence: 7. The Absolute/God/The All/The One Consciousness /The One Awareness/The All knowing/Existence itself. There is no other. 6. The manifestation of #7. The I AM/Your I AM Awareness of BEING. Being aware of Yourself as that one Reality. The Absolute's expression 5. Your I AM identity. The All in physical expression. Whatever you say I AM. This is where the Law of Assumption comes in. Whatever you assume yourself to be. 4. What you assume about yourself and the world. 4 and 5 are ideas/assumptions. 3, 2 &1 goes together. Thoughts, feelings and emotions. Thoughts and feelings combined, creates the emotions. These are not reality and have no source. We get caught up in them believing they are Reality but they're not. We're trying to control these and get caught up in the vicious cycle. This is not where creation is. It's at levels 4 - 7. The one energy source that permeates everything is the I AM. The I AM is nothing but that ONE EMOTION. There's only one emotion and the rest are sensations of that one emotion. The emotions you feel are filters of that one source. They are not reality but expressions of reality. When you feel an emotion that is uncomfortable or "negative", it's an emotion being filtered from who you truly are and is not true of your true identity otherwise it wouldn't feel like that. Something that is not a fundamental truth does not feel good. That one emotion, the I AM is being expressed through you as love, gratitude joy, freedom and bliss, etc. These are elevated emotions that are true to the ALL. You are already all that. It's a state of being. Your personalized physical expression of the All in you is expressed as a result of your assumptions about yourself and the world. Everything else that you see in the 3D world is like the show, the circus, chaotic and out of control - so it seems. These are also expressions of your identity but they are not reality only ideas and expressions of the true reality. Now, we try to create from these ideas of reality by trying to cope, trying to change them and trying to deal with the circumstances of this non-reality. This is very tiring and only creates anxiety, depression anger and resentment. This part of reality is like the weeds and remnants and is not relevant as far as creation goes and what experiences we have. There's no emotional stability in the weeds and circus where things are always changing (emotions, thoughts and feelings). Trying to change our thoughts and feelings is an indication that we believe those are reality and we get caught up in the cycle. Never feeling fulfilled. One has to be at levels 5,6,7, knowing you are already that. Trying to change your feelings which are not permanent doesn't do anything. You have to know you're worthy safe and loved. You will never feel those upper emotions from the level of trying to change things in the weed. It comes from KNOWING who you truly are. The thoughts and feelings keep you trapped, they make you feel unfulfilled and needing to do something about them. If you already know who you truly are and have formed assumptions based from that, even if thoughts, feelings and emotions overtake you, you will not identify with them because you know they are fleeting and changing and does not matter. All that matters is that you stay at the higher levels where true creations take place and stay there. This video explains my post. I'm not writing this post because of what I believe this man is saying. It's from being in the field for a few years, absorbing everything from every angle, from every experience to every insight, to what every guru says, to every notion of no self, to every thing Leo teaches, to every one that says there's no you and that its all illusory to every comment to every thread to every whatever. It all boils down to God Realization and how you use that for earthly manifestation and how to do it properly. There's nothing in the 3D world to change to get your desired reality. We have to stay with the identity of the one true reality and ignore everything else and allow that reality to work through you to bring forth it's expression.

Definetely, that´s the work 😂 I get that, I definetely not a mystic anyway if not i would have gone to an ashram, but is clear the only thing that closes openness is attachment to the limited. And attachment because is based in the belief one will find anything worthwile in the limited. The issue (or blessing) is that i have tasted at this point way too many times the sweetness of the unlimited, at this point is not just about openess, is literally Bliss, is an explosion, a total Win, a Victory, a Victory of Myself over everything It feels so good when it happens, is so clear that nothing in reality is as worthwhile as that, because everything else is limited, is not me, only real me is worthwhile, but you have to see it clearly. Once you see it you want more and more and more, you are not ok with settling with just a bit, you want to walk straight into that, no matter the cost. Because is so good.

Why do you give a fuck about the world with thinking about it, why don't you go with the moment as you will die next second? Than relax and let go, feel the bliss.

Not sure if I would put it in these exact words, but the essence of what you're saying is what's the case. I would say the "I" thought/energy comes with it a feeling of lack - automatically. It cannot help but to feel lack because it's the energy that thinks it's separate. How can something that is a part of the whole but thinks it's separate not feel lack. It's impossible not to. There's no healing there because it's in it's nature to feel lack, incomplete and unfulfilled. It cannot be any other way. This is at the core of humanity's problems and why there are so many problems both individually and collectively. It is very painful, tiring and exhausting to be a human because it is operating from the feeling of separation when there is none. This is why if one wants to keep the human identity it is still important to realize what you truly are at the core and think and act from that place because that's how one can truly enjoy the human experience and integrate the two. Feelings of joy, happiness, bliss etc will be automatic because there will be no feelings of lack and separation which is where all our problems lie and one won't find the need to chase happiness.

I agree, the identity that I am "Always" an addict or Alcoholic is not Empowering IMO, and then they lose their ability to Respond, and become Reactive in nature. Having the ability to Respond, gives back sovereignty to ones self. Just imagine Your hand and arm just moving around at will, up down sideways, on its on will, would that be a problem? So why is that we think controlling our thoughts, our fears and desires is not possible when we can control most all other parts of our body in major ways? There's always other issues underlying the need to use any substance for pain or suffering relief, watch Gabor Mate, he's an expert on this stuff, worked downtown Vancouver drug addiction central for many years...its mostly about childhood, lack of love or attention and issues being push down then suffering comes afterwards... This is why I like the Path of Bliss, Bliss is not the goal of any spiritual path or method, but its the grease/oil of the engine, when Your in a Blissful state regularly, Your not working against yourself, Your intelligence that is within is working for You now, and that will propel You to higher Possibilities and Potentials on the Spiritual Path, its a tragedy isn't it when most all the ppl on the planet are not living up to their Potential, and most are not!

@PurpleTree Because your still green. You don't care about the intricate connections of the world. People dismiss the truth about the world even when it's served on a silver platter. Let others reply, I'm not gonna argue with people that don't even want to watch the info "because if has subtitles". Every time people lose and argument they correct grammar mistakes. The only thing you care about is to looks like a smart ass and defend US propaganda. Go and take DMT and bliss into infinity while the US butchers 2.000.000 Palestinians.

We need 1) Transcripts generated 2) Convert Transcripts into PDF 3) Upload them 10-at-a-time into ChatGPT 4o I am already taking PDFs from Joseph Rodriguez and feeding them in, check it out I'm doing short pdfs, Leo's you might do 1-at-a-time Here is a summary of the foundational models and frameworks for personal transformation based on the latest uploaded files: 1. Decreeing and Manifestation (from You Shall Decree, and it Comes to Pass)(You shall decree, and i…) Decreeing Power: Your conscious awareness creates your reality. By claiming yourself to be or possess something, it is manifested in the physical world. Consciousness of Being: The key to manifestation is remaining aware that you already are or have what you desire. Autosuggestion: "I decree that I AM love, happiness, peace, bliss, and fulfillment, and this is expressed in all areas of my life." 2. The Power of Visualization (from Your Invisible Power)(Your Invisible PowerGen…) Visualization as Creative Power: Deliberately visualizing desires attracts the necessary resources and events to manifest them. Faith and Will: Visualization must be supported by steady faith and willpower to prevent distractions or doubts from interfering. Autosuggestion: "I call upon the power of I AM, visualizing my desires as already fulfilled, knowing that life aligns to reveal them." etc

Striving for “ultimate happiness” is IMO overrated. For me it is precisely the growth/ work of becoming someone that makes me fulfilled. It is also deeper, because even in the shittiest of days, I still feel I am doing the right thing. I tried being content with existence as is for almost a year. Too much resistance. I realized I have a lot of karma to burn through. Good thing is, bliss is always there to be found if you want to come back to it. So don’t feel bad at all for wanting to explore consciousness.

Why can’t I just lay down at the park and stare up at the trees in perfect bliss? Why do I imprison myself with the inherent dissatisfaction of needing to become somebody? Consumerism is slavery in disguise. Indoctrinating minds into believing that they “need” x to be happy. Of course everyone strives to be happy. Hence if you control people’s desires, you control their behavior

@Hojo You love Ad-Hominem. You think you're soo selfless and woke, just like the rest of the hippies I've met. Anyone who doesn't care about what is happening in the world right now, but claims he is searching for truth, is nothing more that just a Green Spiritual Ego. "Peace just for me, bliss just for me, I'm the selfless of then all, and I care only for truth". Your truth is nothing more that spiritual narcissism and feelings more selfless than other. Joy just for you, not helping to reduce suffering in the world. You think you so woke because you write "truth" 5 times in 3 sentences. People who think the teachings of Sartre, Schopenhauer, Jung, Nietzsche and Camus are beneath them, just pump there Ego to feel superior. Sartre, Schopenhauer, Jung, Nietzsche and Camus saved the lives of millions of people from suicide and doubt. This is why people who think they are above them miss the essence completely. People who are tripping on Acid yet the have done jack shit for society are judging people who saved millions of lives and reduce suffering for hundreds of millions. This is just green bs.

@Rafael Thundercat @Rafael Thundercat @Rafael ThundercatThundercat(sry for the 3 ping the forum it's acting weird from a phone). I'm sick and tired of people constantly pushing the idea of "truth." The values that truly matter in a philosopher or thinker, to me, are the advancement of humanity’s culture and the reduction of suffering. What truly counts? 1% of people to bliss out in some non-dual state while the world burns?Or everyone to go in that direction? I've met countless so-called "enlightened" hipsters who know nothing about the real world, yet claim to be selfless while indulging in drugs and hedonistic lifestyles. There minds are a melange of purple, blue and green. Until we achieve world peace, eradicate famine, and cure mental and physical illnesses, we’re fooling ourselves if we think we seek truth. What we really want is happiness and peace, but mostly for ourselves. Even Osho fell into this trap. As Leo said, enlightenment is not a magic pill. Take Alan Watts, for example supposedly enlightened, yet he was an alcoholic who abused his wives. I want happiness and peace for everyone, not just for a privileged few. I've met too many people who preach care and compassion, but in reality, only care about their own political parties or personal agendas, while judging others. This is the hypocrisy of the so called "green" mindset. Every time someone loses an argument, they conveniently bring up "truth" as if it's the ultimate trump card. But what good is "truth" when 2 billion people live in poverty and die from easily curable diseases? "Truth" is a useless word because there is no absolute truth that humans can fully understand, maybe 1% of it, at best. We're too limited to grasp the laws of the universe. Anyone claiming they've found "the absolute truth" is lying, because truth is just a perspective, not a fact. Whether it’s the perspective of Buddha, Jesus, Rumi, or Mohammed, it’s still just that a perspective. I learned this from Carl Jung, though many on this forum would dismiss his work because they claim "it's not true spiritual work." At the yellow stage, you realize that every perspective is just that, a perspective. And each one has validity and value, even that of a homeless person. I can't help but laugh when I see people dismissing some of history's sharpest minds, as though their work isn’t even worth considering. That’s the pinnacle of spiritual megalomania. Some people think they're smarter than Sartre or Schopenhauer just because they've had 50 trips on acid or shrooms. As Sadhguru said, "The biggest disease on the planet is that people want to be special. But being special for them doesn't mean blossoming into their most wonderful form, it means being above somebody else." Even Leo is guilty of this (as are most people). In one of his philosophy episodes, he positioned himself as light-years ahead of anyone in the last 6,000 years of philosophical thought. It's just spiritual megalomania. Though, to his credit, he did address some of this in his video about the psychology of being wrong. This is why outside people think actualized.org is a cult. Because no one challenges Leo's frame. "Looks at what you are left with, men who are nothing but afraid of you. " The Wife of Saddam Hussein confronting him after he killed her brother. We need healthy disagreements in order to grow.

@Princess Arabia Two key words You used are realize and recognize, that is what Sadhana works on, because as You say we are already Enlightened, already in the Absolute, which is true in a sense, but we don't recognize it or realize it or forgot it, that is where the work is, its the same with Bliss or Joy, or Healthy Body, or anything that we desire or don't desire, its already present we just have to manifest it in our experience. When one is not in recognition or recognizing it, then that is non Realization, Non Enlightenment, Absolute is still functioning, but its not in the Experience of the Individual, that is the work and difference, and one has to admit that most ppl are not in Realization of it! This makes a huge difference in one's life!

Great question. The mind is "waking up". These questions are the types that has the answers written all over it. It never does. It's the mind that seeks and it's the mind that's looking for it's source. It seeks enlightenment because it thinks it's separate. Anyone that says they're enlightened, that's also the mind. Anyone seeking peace, fulfillment, joy and bliss, that's also the mind. Fulfillment is all there is and peace bliss and joy is already the case. How can there be anything else where there's no real separation, no real time and no space. The mind creates all that and now it seeks the end of itself. Have you ever seen anyone on here claiming to have found anything. It's all just more insights, thoughts, concepts and ideas. THEY NEVER WILL. Blessed Lion says he's taking a break from the forum to seek enlightenment. He doesn't realize that it's everywhere, at all times all at once. The only thing that may happen, is that he recognizes that it was always here and now and cannot be something attained. It is already the case, if you want to use that word. There is nothing but.

If you go so some research on this particular state, you'll see how this time is very powerful. There are people buying things and doing things artificially to get into this state because it's so powerful. Binaural beats are made sometimes to listen to in these states. If you really knew how powerful this state was, you'd be on it. Trust me, it's not a problem. You actually possess a very valuable thing here. We all have it, but yours seem to be stronger and more noticeable. That's why we drink coffee in the morning and do things to wake us up, the conscious mind needs to take over and it's just not there yet. If you were in this state forever and ever you'd be in bliss mode, ok, I'm exaggerating a bit.

I'm in the Same Boat, want the Bliss of Sat Chit Ananda, I think via that route it is the safest and fastest, the other routes have too much drama and suffering involved, don't want any of that at all!.. I think the ones talking about God, or Solipsism are Ego tripping basically, when they refer to themselves and associate it with some other figure from the past that has some status that is what it is, be it Christ, Buddha, or whomever...and to think Your the only one in Existence and the rest of Us are figments of their Imagination is just Narcissistic totally! Your Experience is totally Yours, on that front Your the Center of the Universe when it comes to Experiential aspects of Life, but there are others, and they are as Real as You are!

I see, That´s why most of this forum do not understand me, personally I only care about Bliss, not opening, not love, not nothing, I am willing to sell my soul for the Bliss, that´s why I don´t care for God, reality, or whatever. Liberation is the only goal, God is just a stepping stone, not the end for me. But I accept I will have an alone road ahead because there are few people as crazy as me in this sense, very few. Seems Each path is deeply individual for each Being, and is something important to accept so one is not distracted by other's different motivations.

The point is breaking your limits once, then do more and more, until its something normal to you. Breaking your limits is not achieve bliss or happiness or anything, that could happen but the point is breaking the limits, then you perceive yourself without the slightest doubt as the existence, there is nor another word to describe, you are what exist. Then with our human mind we could more or less understand what this experience is, and how is the configuration of the reality, but it's just relative understanding. The point is your nature, the existence, what are you and what everything is. In my opinion psychedelic are an enormous help, without that you have to be a monk, and it's not sure that you will get it. For me the change is totally obvious, but really I'm not so interesting in achieve more spiritual goals, the breaking of the limits is enough, and happens spontaneously more and more. I see that there is a path in this human life that I have to do, but being open to the unlimited. Then the things start to happen, the synchronicity is obvious

You've done the IE program, follow the basics first, 1) Accept all that is as it Is, absolutely, You can't go half way on this...2) Live Now Totally and 3) Respond to Everything Equally, shorten big time Your List of likes/dislikes,, all of this will stop the STress Response, once that happens Your at Peace, that naturally leads You to Bliss as an Everyday things,,,All of this Clears up Your Karma, that is what is the Glue, so no more new karma being made and the old stuff no longer affects You (see #1 and #2), once that is done, Your Free and it comes naturally!!

Spot on. Although I have an intuition that it won't be the solution... the mind is too complex and smart for any blueprint to be enough to get it back on track... but I guess creating such a resource will at least improve my understanding. Yup, although in this case it can be a problem to engage at all if nothing feels worthy enough from certain states. So you want to force yourself, you may even have the energy, but you just don't see the point. That's also one of the purposes of the blueprint. It's not so much about the knowledge, or the best practices to get back on track. I'm noticing it's really a state of mind that shifts my awareness, and from that position, that elevated perspective, I am effortlessly motivated. So my goal will be to find the right words to make "low me" see what "high me" was seeing. Possibly all I will need is a well crafted perspective statement. Like an eagle grabbing me from the back to 1km above the ground and tells me: this is the path, remember? Even as a very curious guy, a Renaissance Man we might say, unless in a total state of eternal bliss, there will be some suffering -> drive to solve problems and get better -> more learning and maturity to do. I guess I'll just have to remind myself of this from time to time. We'll see. Time to create!

I want to dance like that in total bliss.

Buddha tried particularly to use this method, so this method has become a Buddhist method. In Buddhist terminology it is known as Anapanasati Yoga. And Buddha’s enlightenment was based on this technique — only this. All the religions of the world, all the seers of the world, have reached through some technique or other, and all those techniques will be in these one hundred and twelve techniques. This first one is a Buddhist technique. It has become known in the world as a Buddhist technique because Buddha attained his enlightenment through this technique. Buddha said, “Be aware of your breath as it is coming in, going out — coming in, going out.” He never mentions the gap because there is no need. Buddha thought and felt that if you become concerned with the gap, the gap between two breaths, that concern may disturb your awareness. So he simply said, “Be aware. When the breath is going in move with it, and when the breath is going out move with it. Do simply this: going in, going out, with the breath.” He never says anything about the latter part of the technique. If I say to you, “Observe this flower; observe this flower which I give to you,” you cannot observe it. For a single moment you will see it, and then you will begin to think of something else. It may be about the flower, but it will not be the flower. You may think about the flower, about how beautiful it is — then you have moved. Now the flower is no more in your observation, your field has changed. You may say that it is red, it is blue, it is white... then you have moved. Observation means remaining with no word, with no verbalization, with no bubbling inside — just remaining with. If you can remain with a flower for three minutes, completely, with no movement of the mind, the thing will happen — the beneficence. You will realize. But we are not at all observers. We are not aware, we are not alert; we cannot pay attention to anything. We just go on jumping. This is part of our heritage, our monkey heritage. Our mind is just the growth of the monkey mind, so the monkey moves on. He goes on jumping from here to there. The monkey cannot sit still. That is why Buddha insisted so much on just sitting without any movement, because then the monkey mind is not allowed to go on its way. In Japan they have a particular type of meditation which they call Zazen. The word zazen in Japan means just sitting, doing nothing. No movement is allowed. One is just sitting like a statue — dead, not moving at all Page 71 — Because you are afraid of being total, you breathe shallowly. You breathe just at the minimum, not at the maximum. That is why life seems so lifeless. If you are breathing at the minimum, life will become lifeless; you are living at the minimum, not at the maximum. You can live at the maximum — then life is an overflowing. But then there will be difficulty. You cannot be a husband, you cannot be a wife, if life is overflowing. Everything will become difficult. If life is overflowing, love will be overflowing. Then you cannot stick to one. Then you will be flowing all over; all dimensions will be filled by you. And then the mind feels danger, so it is better not to be alive. The more you are dead, the more you are secure. The more you are dead, the more everything is in control. You can control; then you remain the master. You feel that you are the master because you can control. You can control your anger, you can control your love, you can control everything. But this controlling is possible only at the minimum level of your energy. Everyone must have felt at some time or other that there are moments when he suddenly changes from the minimum level to the maximum. You go out to a hill station. Suddenly you are out of the city and the prison of it. You feel free. The sky is vast, and the forest is green, and the height touches the clouds. Suddenly you take a deep breath. You may not have observed it. Now if you go to a hill station, observe. It is not really the hill station that makes the change. It is your breathing. You take a deep breath. You say, “Ah! Ah!” You touch the center, you become total for a moment, and everything is bliss. That bliss is not coming from the hill station, that bliss is coming from your center — you have touched it suddenly. You were afraid in the city. Everywhere there were others present and you were controlling. You could not scream, you could not laugh. What a misfortune! You could not sing on the street and dance. You were afraid — a policeman was somewhere around the corner, or the priest or the judge or the politician or the moralist. Someone was just around the corner, so you could not just dance in the street. Bertrand Russell has said somewhere, “I love civilization, but we have achieved civilization at a very great cost.” You cannot dance in the streets, but you go to a hill station and suddenly you can dance. You are alone with the sky, and the sky is not an imprisonment. . Suddenly you take a breath deeply, it touches the center and the bliss. But it is not so for long. Within an hour or two, the hill station will disappear. You may be there, but the hill station will disappear. Your worries will come back. You will begin to think to make a call to the city, to write a letter to your wife, or you will begin to think that since after three days you are going back you should make arrangements. You have just reached and you are making arrangements to leave. You are back. That breath was not from you really; it suddenly happened. Because of the change of situation the gear changed. You were in a new situation, you could not breathe in the old way, so for a moment a new breath came in. It touched the center, and you felt the bliss. Shiva says you are every moment touching the center, or if you are not touching you can touch it. Take deep, slow breaths. Touch the center; do not breathe from the chest — that is a trick. Civilization, education, morality, they have created shallow breathing. It will be good to go deep into the center, because otherwise you cannot take deep breaths. Unless humanity becomes non-suppressive toward sex, man cannot breathe really. If the breath goes deep down to the abdomen, it gives energy to the sex center. It touches the sex center; it massages the sex center from within. The sex center becomes more active, more alive. Civilization is afraid of sex. We do not allow our children to touch their sex centers, their sex organs. We say, “Stop! Don’t touch!” Look at a child when he first touches his sex center, and then say “Stop!” and then observe his breathing. When you say “Stop! Don’t touch your sex center!” the breath will become shallow immediately — because it is not only his hand which is touching the sex center, deep down the breath is touching it. And if the breath goes on touching it, it is difficult to stop the hand. If the hand stops, then basically it is necessary, required, that the breath should not touch, should not go deep. It must remain shallow. We are afraid of sex. The lower part of the body is not only lower physically, it has become lower as a value. It is condemned as “lower.” So do not go deep, just remain shallow. It is unfortunate that we can only breathe downwards. You were appreciating the master and you were feeling good, and you were thinking, “Now the master must be pleased.” And suddenly he takes his staff and begins to beat you — and mercilessly, because Zen masters are merciless. He begins to beat you; you cannot understand what is happening. The mind stops, there is a pause. If you know the technique, you can attain to your self. There are many stories that someone attained buddhahood because the teacher suddenly started beating him. You cannot understand it — what nonsense! How can one attain buddhahood by being beaten by someone, or by being thrown out of the window by someone? Even if someone kills you, you cannot attain buddhahood. But if you understand this technique, then it becomes easy to understand. In the West particularly, in the last thirty or forty years Zen has become very much prevalent — a fashion. But unless they know this technique, they cannot understand Zen. They can imitate it, but imitation is of no use. Rather, it is dangerous. These are not things to be imitated. The whole Zen technique is based on the fourth technique of Shiva. But this is unfortunate. Now we will have to import Zen from Japan because we have lost the whole tradition; we do not know it. Shiva was the expert par excellence of this method. When he came to marry Devi with his barat, his procession, the whole city must have felt the pause... the whole city! Devi’s father was not willing to marry his girl to this “hippie” — Shiva was the original hippie. Devi’s father was totally against him, and no father would permit this marriage. So we cannot say anything against Devi’s father. No father would permit his daughter’s marriage to Shiva. But Devi insisted so he had to agree — unwillingly, unhappily, but he agreed. Then came the marriage procession. It is said that people began to run, seeing Shiva and his procession. The whole barat must have taken LSD,

You have misunderstood the teaching. There's no one to say, I won't drive a car since i'm in God realization. God realization is a concept, an idea. It's all concepts and ideas so is enlightenment. "but not within society", is again a mental construct. It's happening regardless of how you see it. There's no this is society so I have to stoop to society's level and live from that place or I have to live from the Absolute and be in bliss and all that. That's all mental stuff, separation, beliefs, ideas, thoughts. Bliss and peaceful is what the egoic mind that doesn't exist strives for. It can't help it. That's what you're talking about. Youlre fantasizing about a God realization, bliss and peace. Reality is all ready that - no matter what the mirage is showing and whatever is appearing.

Not according to sadhguru: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxJF4Xyli8f0oDyHUFbNtmO9qjUg1JtTEU?si=mRR_k6vwOqtOwMXw Like ive said, pop an oxy and feel for 8 hours what is being self-free and at the same time you being able to manage your work, have sex, talk to your kids... Just kidding, drugs are not the answer but is a good example of that one can be dissolved in Bliss and at the same time engage in the world like the most functional motherfucker. A good example of this is Sadhguru. No one believes sadhguru is real because he is engaged all the time in material stuff...but he has said several times..."within there is no friction for me', "thats why i can have such a tremendous level of activity and not get burn by life in the slightest". The main issue is that most people have never experienced functionality and at the same time blissfulness/no self. Either they have demolished the structure with psychedelics or meditation but also the mind in the process...so they think, you have to choose between spiritual or material. But there are states of consciousness where there is dissolution and at the same time mind is ON and active, this is the King of the King of the states of consciousness... Once you get a touch of this you are amazed at the possibility of the human mechanism. Just because we have not reached that level of mastery within ourselves as a baseline level does not mean is not possible. As you said, there is difference between working 12 hours in tailand sewing clothes for 2$ an hour vs a comfortable job in europe... So even though the absolute is the absolute, all people want the best life experience possible, a memory of the absolute is ultimately useless, because we are always in the NOW what matters is what is your state of consciousness/dissolution NOW.