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@Nabd Egypt has moved large amounts of troops in the northern Sinai. If Israel tries to push 2 million people through, it is a declaration of war. If Israel wants to commit suicide, angering Egypt is an easy way of doing it

They shouldn't live at all. Give all the land to Palestinians and commit a collective suicide. This is probobly the only way Palestinians would have been satisfied. Fuck facts. Israel is an Apartheid.

Thanks for sharing. No such thing as a bad trip. I have had similar trips to yours. You gotta go through the ringer or the crucible. You came out the other side having passed through the fire. You are lucky to know your flaws and your parents’ flaws. Knowing is half the battle. In the movies there is a jumper on the ledge and the cocky cop tells him to go ahead and jump using reverse psychology and the jumper backs off the ledge. We distract ourselves with suicide and a woe is me attitude. But now our real core challenge will arise which we were avoiding by focusing on suicide. So be prepared to do some work on yourself as new internal challenges arise. Always mourn for those who actually jump. The Greeks said the only way to live is to die before your death. So let your old self die and let your new self blossom. At its core you saw life is meaningless or the lasers. You can be sad about this or ambrace it optimistically. We are free. We have nothing to lose. It is a silly absurd surreal world so have fun and enjoy.

@Razard86 Environment does matter substantially in affecting your growth and happiness in life. What about the child born in the third world so affected by malnutrition that his physical growth is severely stunted, is their potential the same as what it would be had they growth up in a safe household in the West with adequate nutrition? Or consider Genie, a child who from the age of 20 months was kept locked in a dark room and tied to a chair by his father, being completely unable to move, deprived of any social interaction, left malnourished, and being beaten by her father if she made any noise. This environment left her unable to learn a language or develop social skills, and she became severely mentally handicapped overall. Are we to believe that the difference in this environment in fostering growth is only subjectively different to being raised in a loving household? I saw a documentary about a poor Indian farmer who took out debt to cover a medical expense. Unable to pay it back him and his wife and young kids are forced to work under harsh and dangerous conditions in a brick factory for 14 hours a day, and will probably remain enslaved for the remainder of their lives. What is the value of their suffering? They may never have the opportunity to live out their lives with any of the opportunities for growth and actualisation that many of us in more privileged circumstances have. Does their suffering make them stronger than if they were to be free? It is possible for suffering to motivate people to growth and to seek a way to better themselves and improve their situation. However in so many instances intense suffering can cripple people severely enough that they may never recover and can lead to suicide just to escape it. Another point important to make is that suffering is not necessary for growth. Positive forms of motivation are incredibly powerful and more sustainable, for instance we may be motivated by a vision, curiosity, love, ect. Certain environments are better able to cultivate these forms of motivation than others.

What if I told you at a certain level of consciousness you realize....emotions are thoughts....what if I told you there is a form of language that doesn't use symbols, but that there is an emotional, empathetic understanding that is even deeper than thought? Also from one perspective he is right that thought can lead to emotion, but emotion can lead to thought as well. It's like this....your ego has a set of beliefs. These beliefs are like thoughts that are set in place and will respond when messed with. So for example lets say you hate getting wet...then you walk outside and somebody sprays you with water, you will immediately get angry. You didn't have to THINK to get angry because that thought already existed. If this happens I will get angry. This is why you will hear people say stuff like "I'm a type of person if you do this it will piss me off." You see? So you already have a conditioned response. Some of your conditioned responses are biological, and some are sociological. For example shivering when its cold is a conditioned response. Also your goal shouldn't be to stop getting upset, the purpose of anger is protection. Anger gives you the strength to protect yourself. If I robbed you of the ability to get angry you would never protect yourself. Some people have been taught to not be angry so much they repress it. Anger is not bad, or evil, the only thing you should be concerned with is not letting that anger control you. Now obviously if you think you are getting angry at things that are not important from your point of view then you can do an investigation into why it bothers you. Always remember this...reality goes both ways...LOL. Its bisexual!!! LOL that's a joke. But seriously emotions trigger thoughts and thoughts trigger emotions. If anyone ever tells you that something is only one way...they are unconsciously lying to you. So this guy in the video is only half right....and it is hard for my mind to listen to half right people...sigh....also there are NO NEGATIVE EMOTIONS. You need to understand....society has a bias against, anger, sadness, depression, etc. because society wants to put on a veneer (cover, appearance) of happiness. Everything is always LOOK HAPPY!!! Notice people unconsciously say "How are you doing?" And you unconsciously reply 'Fine." Why? Well part of it is habit, but part of it is you know if you start telling them your problems they will probably make some excuse and leave. Notice that unless you speak in a nice non-aggressive manner people will demonize you and tell you that you are bad. This is the problem that is leading to suicide, depression, because everyone is always trying to tell you WHEN it is appropriate to express your emotions. Why? Because they are not comfortable with their own vulnerability they project that onto you. This is why God made women and children, to teach the power of vulnerability. To teach the importance of free emotional expression. Men complain that only women and children are allowed to be emotional, it is like that only as long as you believe that. Now with that said he is not wrong that lies are what leads to what he falsely calls negative emotions. But that lie is just a BIAS. So a bias is the belief that something is not GOOD. So the video of the person you sent me...HE is lying. He is guilty of what he is preaching. Because he thinks there are negative emotions. All emotions are GOOD!!! His issue is...whenever he feels anything but peace love and joy, he judged himself as Non-Spiritual and demonizes himself. So he has created a Spiritual Ego (which is the biggest trap in Spirituality) of how he is SUPPOSED to be instead of accepting himself as he is. So let's put his foolish notion to the test. If I came at you with a chainsaw...and you felt fear...is that based on a lie? Sure...the lie is that you can die....you cannot die. But....without that fear you cannot be motivated to either run or fight. You would have to be so NON-ATTACHED, that you completely are okay with losing the human you have been living as. If this is WHAT YOU WANT? Take his advice...but we both know that is not what he is saying. So thus...based on what he is saying....what he says can only be relative, and contextual. So what he SHOULD be teaching is HEALTHY emotional expression. There are no negative emotions, but there are NON-HEALTHY NON PRODUCTIVE forms of emotional expression.

Death is no more valuable than life, so why do whe try so hard just to "survive"? is the point of nihilism, to observ the absurdm of life itself each year millions of people die, one more ore less makes no real difference.

God created all the religions, right? Perhaps, as tools to get enlightened. Consciousness manifests in a form that enables other forms to awaken, like psychedelics. But not everyone knows how to use these tools and ends up shooting themselves in the foot. Similar to how some people commited suicide from watching the same videos (Leo’s) that helped others stay alive and transcend.

Hello everyone, This is my first post. I am a meloman and I wanted to add to this megathread a couple of bands that I listen to that are definitely in the Green (most of these are metal/rock): 1. Disturbed - I feel like they definitely had shades of green throughout their whole discography, but the 2015 album Immortalized is as green as it can be and the following albums and singles reflect that. 2. System of a Down - even from their beginnings they tried to gather awareness of injustices in the prison systems in the US, the armenian genocide, suicide, war, drugs and a lot more. 3. Metallica - their first albums are a bit more raw and might have a lot of aggression and “Red” in them, I think songs like “Fade to Black”, “Creeping death”, “For whom the bell tolls” are definitely a cut above. For example, on the “Master of puppets” album I think they tackle a lot of social issues like drugs (“Master of puppets”) , mental illness and the whole messed up system with mental treatments in the 80’s ("Welcome Home (Sanitarium)"), war and how the soldiers are treated ("Disposable Heroes") and calling out the hypocrisy of religion ("Leper Messiah"). "...And Justice for All" was another album that had a very green feel with themes like justice, war, truth and social norms, and mental illness again. The ending track, "Dyers Eve", is a very clear rebellion against “Blue” and “Orange”. Throughout the rest of the discography green themes are present. 4. Rage Against the Machine - I don’t even think I need to go into this one. I'm sure there are much more bands like this, so if you want to add some similar stuff feel free to do so.

What the fuck is this shit. Like seriously, I am falling in love. I just want to say thank you to @Leo Gura. You have had such an impact on my life. I have followed you for 10 years. Consistently watching your videos. You made me understand the importance of meditation - which is the most essential bedrock in selfhelp. I am currently studying clinical psychology. Have done a lot of psychedelics to heal my trauma. Was at the brink of suicide. But psychedelics is the 2.0 of psychology. Psychedelics is going to revolutionize the world. Broad research is needed. 5-MeO-MALT could have the potential to end all wars.

"I need your protection." Yeah, that is exactly why I want to live in Western Europe. I need protection. I'm scared of dying yet suicidal at the same time. It's strange. Suicide is a way to get to safety. There are worse things in life than dying in an instant. But I'm incapable of spilling my own blood. I also abhor the thought of ever doing harm to others. Even out of mercy. But to protect the common good and myself, I think that if I had sufficient enough reason to believe that there are sadistic monsters in power abusing it, that I'd act against them. I surely hope I never lose my mind, for I heard criminals get created in bad social environments and upbringing has an impact on a person as well. Maybe this is true, maybe not. I believe it is true.

Israel has tried this many many times during 90's and 00's and the palestinians ALWAYS said NO and sent even more suicide bombers.

I made this a year or two ago. It still holds up pretty well. This is just another angle to view suicide from which might be helpful. Suicide- Should We Do It? (Explaining the Existential Danger of Suicide to Society)

After i've heard about the recent suicide incident from a member of this forum i wonder isn't Mahasamdhi a form of suicide? Leo in your Outrageous Experiment video you've talked about how tempting it was to accept the call for leaving your body. Isn't that a form of suicide like jumping off a bridge?

(Answer the question at the bottom for anyone not willing to read the whole thing) @universe I will read the thread, don’t worry. I can sense that this thread is soon to be locked, but before that happens please hear me out. I’m sure to you more spiritually and socially advanced folks I seem to be doing a lot of projecting and reacting egotistically, and to some extent I probably am. Try to see things from the perspective of those of us affected by these issues. For example, (and I have numerous examples) just yesterday I was at a town gathering where I saw two girls that were perfect for cold approaching. They escaped me because I waited too long trying to psyche myself up to do the approach. See, the anxiety itself is not the problem, it’s the fact the anxiety cripples your cognitive functions to the point where it becomes impossible to convey your thoughts clearly or even speak normally, and that’s even after doing warmup approaches. The source of that anxiety is not fear of rejection. Who cares if she says no. It’s the imminent danger of being secretly filmed and defamed all over social media causing tons of other girls to hate me as well (there’s a huge trend where girls are doing this to guys at the gym for simply glancing in their direction) that’s not projecting or fear mongering, that’s objectively what is happening. If the girls decide they dislike you or feel uncomfortable with something you said or even just your “vibe” they can point you out to the cops claiming harassment and suddenly you’re in cuffs possibly being filmed and laughed at during the arrest. Ending up like that for simply trying to get a girlfriend would rocket propel almost anyone into levels of sheer psychological torment far exceeding what the human mind is built to withstand. This very well can and does happen and they don’t even need proof of you doing something genuinely wrong. Then you’ve got risks such as being maced, threatened or worse by her bf or random white knight(s), being bullied by her and friends, getting banned from whatever venue for reasons basically amounting to lacking social skills... anything can happen. These issues are further reinforced by all the other areas in life I’ve mentioned in which women are more advantaged than us, and by the fact that the male suicide rate is significantly higher. I realize this is a place of self improvement and I know it sounds like all I’m doing is complaining. Part of what I’m doing is venting, which the forum guidelines lists as acceptable. Though I’m also seriously trying to get this galaxy sized obstacle overcome. It has caused me deeper despair and hopelessness than I ever thought possible. I’m 100% certain the feeling is somewhere close to a mother who recently lost her children. The ONLY thing I want anymore I can’t have no matter how much effort I put in. I’ve reached the beginning stages of completely and absolutely losing my fucking mind. There’s no point in being alive anymore. All over being denied the ecstasy of having a decent partner to cuddle up on the couch and watch retarded Netflix shows with like other people have. Before this gets too much longer I’ll close on one final question I want answered if nothing else. How come when men bring up societal misandry it’s somehow considered projecting or egotism and we’re told to man up and get better or the thread just gets locked but when women talk about misogyny it’s taken a lot more seriously than that? Are men’s issues (which are literally driving people to suicide) not valid enough to be seriously discussed in depth? That in itself is a sort of meta sexism ironically enough.

? Israel is isolating and villianizing itself on the world stage all by itself. Suicide by arrogant stupidity.

That's true and unfortunate for all the innocent kids there and airbombing should be done as surgically as possible... But at the moment there are not many other solutions available for Israel The thing is that sending soldiers there is militarly too risky: getting into Gaza without having weakened Hamas through the bombs can be suicidal for soldiers. I used to be very empathetic with the Palestinians and harsh on Israel colonialism, but they have been receiving money for decades from NGOs and other organizations and they don't do anything for the people themselves, but they just used them to feed terrorism against Israel (every week they try to attack Israel with missiles and Israel keeps standing just for their sheer technological power to intercept them) and they have always violated every agreement, Egypt on the border doesn't even want the Palestinians anymore because they don't want Hamas. Gaza had the change in 2005 to vote for people who actually cared for them, but they wanted Hamas in power and has done nothing other the supporting Hamas ever since, basically committing suicide as a nation. What can Israel do against an organization that states since the beginning that peace is not possibile without the annihilation of Israel?

Today I made the realization that murder and suicide could be regarded as the same thing as they are both the killing of an avatar by an avatar within the universal consciousness with the delusion-based intention of one avatar's ego to reduce or take away the avatar's cause suffering. However in both cases there is survival of this consciousness. In both cases the killer commits a crime against oneself. This led me to think that as in many stage orange centered countries, people who attempted suicide often receive (often obligatory) mental health help. I think the same should be done for people who have committed murder. I think people rarely commit murder because they are truly happy, often “criminals” suffer from a methylation disorder, which can often be fixed with nutrition. I think it would be valuable to put them in Norwegian style ”prisons”, not with the intent to punish (one can only punish themselves after all), but with a very high focus on mental health care and individualized testing, supplementation, diet, meditation, exercise and addiction recovery (including smoking, gaming, etc.). Also perhaps a focus on developing a musical, or artistic skill, at least for me this is very helpful for my mental health. I'm interested to see different points of view.

Palestinians do you agree with suicide bombings?

Yeah, look at this TV-show for children in Palestine. Its all about how to attack and kill Jews: People dont seem to understand that this goes way deeper than just some fight about land... The "axis powers" of Russia, Iran, Turkey etc. are all involved with this and its all a preparation for some kind of global war against Zionism (and the West). Radicalised, indoctrinated Islamists are being used as some kind of attack dogs/suicide troops.

When I was 18 I had already dropped out of school and planned to live alone in nature for for the rest of my life. I had friends and family members I discontinued talking to abruptly and left to Australia, half a world away. Everyone said either they were jelous or that I needed help but I didn't have any room to consider any other option or feeling. I was going to die in nature one way or another, I had many girlfriends by then and I had been high from everything a teenager could have wanted, I was the king before I lost my mind researching all things mysticism and supernatural enlightenment. One day out of the blue I was chosen to live a great life full of wisdom. I denounced everything I ever experienced and began my life as a safe at age 17. It killed me to live in some small town where everything was the same for everyone. Nobody was on my level. I became vegan and flew off to the jungle without notifying anyone. Fuck my parents and fuck everyone, you are all pieces of shit and guilty for the grunt survival of millions, I was going to learn how to become God himself and show everyone what nature in the mind can really achieve. I would have astral projections, I began seeing demons and angels, In my mind I have killed both and became incredibly sensitive to compassion and what freedom entails. As of right now I have lived alone for 8 years wandering the globe exposed to the suffering of the homeless as well as the severe elements so I am strong physically and mentally. I have drank from a finest cup and smoked the best narcotics at this point. I am detached from any notion of place or time. Once I gave all of my thoughts to a lady and she believed were were eternally inseperable. 5 years of denial. I now have SSI from suicidal hospitalizations where I absolutely played the system. The only thing I do now besides meditate is listen to mystical melodic instrumentals and create rock paintings, where I can talk to my higher self in terms of gratitude for the smallest incling of non dual experience. Due to drugs I my dopeamine levels are nearly non existent. I don't need food anymore, I survive on connection to the world. I am. I may die but it is not by my allowance and that's okay. I am content being a homeless non contributing piece of shit. And I may learn how to thank myself through you one day. That's all.

In some Northern Canadian communities, the First Nation people/children commit suicide at a rather alarming rate, not to go off-topic. Pain is their lot too. My point is I know why, how to fix it is problematic. Same book, different chapter.

It's the most stupid attitude ever seen in history. They are completely crazy. Or they want to commit collective suicide and go with the virgins All the other wars was for an objective. Arabs fight just for hate and insanity

It’s truly amazing how the deeper you get into this work, the more frequent you’ll experience awakenings. Even the very subtle awakenings are becoming a beauty to bask in. As I’m typing this comment, I’m experiencing increased awareness and connection to others (who are me, of course). This experience, just half a year ago, would have made me call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. And I’ve only begun to scratch the surface! Life is beautiful.

@Leo Gura They are really not rational in their minds. All they care about is killing and slaughtering Israelis, even by means of suicide, collective suicides, hurting their own people. It's like this is their moral.

even if our belief is false; we must believe, if not, we will collapse existentially We gave them something to hope for. - That's not hope! This prophecy is how they enslave us! - It's not a prophecy. It's a story. stilgar (fremen's leader) - I don't care what you believe! I believe paul atreides sees the future that he can not change, he sees future for sure, still, he is trapped in the fate of universe and collective ego that wishes and desires to make war, he even sees the future he commits suicide, but then people use his skull and worship it, and use it for galactic jihad"