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I guess is in doing it in the most conscious way possible. But regarding the externality thing, I personally have no interest at all in what society has sold me. I would love to have courage in go live in the mountains and drip in the bliss and perfect oneness and loneliness, is not because technically I can´t. I can, I have a free house, remote job, and tools to achieve that and make it stronger and stronger in intensity the more I focused I do it. But the focus is not there because the collective virus of externality has been programmed in the mind. So I say no to that and keep running the wheel, and for this I will pay a price I know, it will take me x20 more time to get to the same place im going, just because I keep taking detours because of society and collective virus of trying to achieve completeness from external outcomes, because everybody within feels weak, the being within feels like is never enough so you have to go extract value and love from the outside. And so the wheel keeps going.

True, had the same experience through an NDE with excruciating physical pain, then bliss followed. I think of it more like a one-off rite of passage, not necessary to go through it every time, these days I can surrender (deeply) almost on command and in daily life I'm far more peaceful too, but to a more limited degree as to not harm survival, which I'm still interested in for now.

You can access states of total bliss in meditation, but afterward you are still an animal that must kill to eat. The only way to stop being one is to commit suicide, so it's better to accept the game, see it for what it is and play it as best as possible. What other option could be?

God is a traitor, a horrible deceiving creature. Or it had been deceived itself. Part of its creation has to suffer. And it’s God plan. Even if I am God myself (as eternal light) then I would like to unalive myself (meaning kill God) since God makes us love in the world where the greatest desire is to leave this world. Someone who hasn’t faced TRUE HORRORS of life will never understand what I’m talking about. Not a single saint, enlightened or wise man throughout space and time has ever found an answer to the question ”Why there is actually suffering (exhaustion) existing in Gods plan. The answer that without suffering we would not appreciate love and happiness is bullshit. The best moments of my life were when I was completely unaware of any suffering. Pure joy and life of abundant life where everyone around is happy. Therefore God is not all allmighty. We are all slaves here in this doomed world, yes there is a righteous path. But this is not the point. I wish all the paths were righteous. I wish none of this madness never existed. But God wishes that I go trough this experience of denial. I don’t want to play this stupid game. ENOUGH. So we are destined and doomed to live this ugly life. And even if it at some point evolves to really something beautiful and non violent, and we will never have to come here again for eternity. I don’t care it’s only in my mind, the illusion is still real. Yes in the end it’s all bearable and it will be forgotten and lost in eternity, but it’s no excuse. This simply should have never existed. And nobody even knows why it exists this way. Is just way too much trash here. It’s horrible balanced. If the “oneness” has the best feeling in the world then why would we want a lower frequency feeling of joy rather than bliss?. Stuck in a body and not knowing your purpose or why everything is structured this way, is the saddest thing that can happen to a person.

These are Experiences, not a God, why make that into the meaning of a God when its a Human thing??? The word "God" is for sure the wrong word to use, Allness, Oneness, Fullness, Absolute, Bliss, Completeness are much better and relatable/understandable within this forum usage!

This is not about "Telling the Body how to Feel", our Bodies are naturally meant to be Heathy and full of Energy and Vitality, its that we are doing things to bring this sort of situation down, we eat bad food, we don't exercise, we sit on the phone all day, etc... The Mind if there for us to use to Survive another day, that is the basics of it, its Intellect based and Intellect is a Survival tool, you won't go beyond Survival Level of Perception, Awareness via the Mind as it is in the modern day, and both Mind and Body are Accumulations, Body via the Food we eat (hence its a Earth Body), Mind via the input of data from the 5 senses, it comes in, its filtered thru the Intellect, Identity, Memory, and then maybe to the level of Chitta or Consciousness, but for most it does not go up that far, so all You to do is have a space experientially btwn what is You and what You have Accumulated, you are not anything that You have Accumulated, You are the thing that was there before any accumulation started, some call this Soul, Atman, God, or I like to use the word Life,,, once that is in Your Experience, the Body and Mind are Healthy naturally or will heal Naturally and Peace, Bliss are your Natural Experience, from this place of Stability, then You explore what it means to be Human and the Potential in Life!

If I raped that is, I have not, so rape for me doesn't exist! But the act of rape is happening right now, someone is committing rape on someone else, so whomever is doing this act is doing so of their own will, or lack thereof.. Its all Possibility, its not absolute, we can choose to Rape or Not Rape if Awareness is high and one is in Peace/Bliss states, how is it possible to be Evil if one is Blissed Out naturally?? Not possible!

I think once again the wrong wording is being Used, You cannot use words like evil and bad and wrong and the opposite in context with Absolute, Brahman/Shiva, God or whatever label You put too it, as Leo said this is Existential Level... Evil and Goodness and such labels are on the Human Level, so why are ppl taking Human level things and applying it too God/Absolute and such? It doesn't go there, but ppl are buying in to that there is this God/Absolute and then there is a ME, US, Humanity, Life forms etc, its not this way at all, there is Just Life, which is akin to God/Absolute, this Life is within Us all, we just have to be Conscious that we are Fundamental Life, with Bodies and Mind here on Earth and an Ability to Be Aware that we are this Life. Life is not the situations and circumstance one is in, its not the past events and experiences we have all had, nor the future imagination plans we are creating in our heads or dreams of the future, Life is present Only Now, its intense, active liveness that allows all creation to happen each moment and before and after this moment, all we can do as HUMANS is bring our Awareness of this to high intensity, then no Evil will exist, only Empowerment, which You can label as whatever You want, I say its Good, Love, Bliss, Aliveness, Truth, Consciousness, Hopes, Dreams, Success all the so called "Positive" things...

EO @Leo Gura But you have to Accept that doing abuse is because of Being disconnected from God. For example, if you go out to approach women and you feeling anxious and weak within Yourself youll have much less success that if within your feeling complete and confident within you. There are sometimes where survival or "well being" is aligned with Gods ultimate nature. In fact a lot of times. Which tells you Gods ultimate nature is Love, Bliss, alignment, etc. You could Say abuse happens because God is so Infinite that even It permits to itself to be twisted and disconnected from itself. But if you look, abuse or violence is asymetrically connected to God. You can not Awaken beating people and being a nazi, you can Only Awaken if i a certain equanimity and sensibility has happened within. Which is necesary in order to sit to meditate or take a psychedelic...etc Sorry cant unquote from phone

What I don't know or understand is Sadhguru says if at the Moment of Death if You are in Emotional Pain, Suffering of sorts, that will be Your state on the other side, visa versa if Your In Bliss, but what is feeling that? From what I understand the Earth and Mental sheaths (mental is not about thoughts, ideologies and such, its the software of sorts, the intelligence that allows the body to function, like cells communicating with other cells and things of this intricate nature) don't go with You on the other side, the Energy /Etheric/Bliss sheaths do, karma is stored in the Energy Body I suppose? So what is feeling the suffering at the moment of death?? Ghosts are real too he says, it depends on what is happening at the moment of death and their karmic situation.

What Others? I thought this place was the House of Solipsism?? LoL Yes its wise not too make assumptions, other than when Your Enlightened, You've touched the Bliss Body, they call it this because when intouch with it You feel Blissful, and when Your closer to Truth/Reality suffering is not possible for You, these are pointers only... Pain is always possible, but Pain is not Suffering! Enlightenment is knowing Sat Chit Ananda Experientially, that is You know via Experience Truth Consciousness Bliss...

That's a Nice Sharing!! If all peoples of the world had this experience it would transform this world, that is the whole idea of Spiritual Path, to bring about this Experience for everyone, as everyone is equally capable of having it! I would call it the realization of Sat Chit Ananda, or Truth Consciousness Bliss, this is the Fundamental Reality, but us as Humans have to Seek it out, its there within each of Us, but we have a great Survival Aspect within us, it overrides this experience as You had above, if all ppl where in that sort of experience all the time, they would not care of Survival so the Tiger would eat You easily, so its suppressed for that purpose, but now with our ability to secure food and shelter, basic survival needs its the best time to regain this sort of Sat Chi Ananda experience and strive for it!

First there's too many Assumptions in Your Questions, who says God is eternally Loving and/or Indifferent, did You read this somewhere or someone told You this, how do you know this is Truth/Reality via that way of finding out? What is Love anyways? Love is Inclusion, I include You as Me! Indifference is I don't care, if one says this is Love then they don't know what Love is! The key to it all is that You still care and are completely involved with everyone and everything, but none of it affects Your Inner Experience, You don't suffer another's Suffering, if You do then Your a Slave to them and less unable to help them, if You can maintain a high level of Experience within (Peace, Joy, Bliss) then Your more Enabled to help those that are Suffering, its that simple!

Yeah, if one stops identifying with the body, then one does not know suddenly where one exists. Since barriers and borders where anchored in the body. And of course Bliss is natural when one is not constructed by the boundaries of the attachment of the body. ^^^ Thats why i have said so much times in this forum Bliss is a natural quality of Reality, is Only because of attachments identifications that this Bliss stops being itself, and becomes the object of limitation it has proyected itself towards.

Now its oscilating between ego> to the no mind >to the breaking of the barrier between inside and outside then bliss >then losing attachment to the body 😅

To my own mental delight and horror everything is absolutely both true and false, limits/destruction are what create "special" or specific infinity, we exist in the ocean between total infinity and nothingness and know everything(the moment) and nothing(the future and the past), almost sounded cool there. Integrating destruction into love, acknowledging absolute horror and accepting all hate as itself, the most supremely difficult and weirdest of tasks, but respecting the timing of each moment as bad is good and good is bad, becoming bigger to include more but also to be able to destroy more and becoming smaller to accept the creativity of the weirdest(the other and other things), to escape harm and to give space for others to be big. Wasting each other's time or immortalizing them, destroying each other's sadness and misery and uplifting them, being biased and creating problems, joining and betraying, playfully and sometimes never able to take it back. Hating each others quirks in the name of love and playfulness. Letting everyone hate the way they are, giving them the infinite space and time we(them) deserve without losing sight of absolute love. Optimistic, meaningful butchering of each other for basic sustainment and supreme bliss, edging on the voluntary on part of the victims but accepting it's part of defeat to be consumed as it is a game but never lowering the intensity of the desire for revenge against our captors and defilers. Working towards changing the fundamental rules of reality and succeeding but forgetting them the very next moment as if it never meant anything as your own rage was nothing else but the primordial suffering that will never be accepted, going completely beyond all for the real impossible and the true ultimate, turning the fake into real, having your cake and eating it too, being down to earth and sensible as supremely real as any cosmic joke and doing it all again even though time might no longer exist for that moment. Sorry hahahahahaha. I'm high from the Caffè latte.

I had the dinner and with dinner i had the beer which little bit "kills" your ego, but i had beer last whole week and nothing happend.Then i noticed i got shifted to the present after a glass of beer it "felt"(bliss comes from the "space")amazing then how my mind is complete silence it started to expand and body panicking because its losing sense to reality.now i dont want to look at nothing but a screen because the conciousness is like expanding and if you focus on one thing it does something odd i cant explain.. Really? Was it similar to this?

Let's not call them that. A breakdown is not a breakthrough. When you understand your nature, you grasp it as it is, revealing what is already true and has always been. What does acceptance have to do with this? And why would a kensho elicit fear and pain? In fact, it tends to elicit laugher and joy. This suggests that what he's experiencing might be something entirely different, like a state coupled with a fair amount of unnecessary mental activity that is leading to suffering. This is secondary to the (presumed) breakthrough and can be changed by becoming aware of what you are doing, and then by stopping that unwanted activity. Being ruthlessly honest with oneself helps. If there is no separation, why isn't love (or freedom and bliss) your experience? Why does it result in a negative outcome? If it is a direct experience, then I'd say you haven't gone far enough. Keep looking afresh at the matter, standing on the most immediate and present sense of yourself. Then, contemplate. The key is listening for a direct consciousness; the description is rather inconsequential. Speaking in "spiritual" and "enlightened" terms is not the same as knowing one's nature. There's a difference, which can be tricky to discern, but sometimes things have a certain scent.

I get a lot of bliss . Because i was getting a lot of bliss, I start to forget my problems and survival By bliss I mean deep intense emotional joy

@Ramanujan Right. So it wasn´t really Bliss. If you are really Blissful in a good way you don´t get impaired, you get enhanced. When I was doing oxys for over a year I would get even more motivated to work and do normal-human stuff, not less. You're probably calling Bliss to just pseudo peacefulness and calmness. Which is not.

Not at all, is like they injected you Methamphetamine all over your body but you dont have a Mind to experience the anxiety or the stimulation, you are just left with the pure Intensity. Actually thats a poor metaphor, lets call It a perfect Alone Bliss where nothing exists but your perfection.

@Ramanujan Shamavhi also makes bliss for me but is not easily maintained, it ends up fading. Why you stop doing the kriya if it makes you high bliss for a long time?

very high bliss for a long time u do kriya , u get bliss for a long time

@Keryo Koffa mmm, I would say that is still mind, is not space. Space is empty Bliss, Shiva! The destructor. 0. Mahasamadhi. End of manifestation. DMT Realms is still incarnation! Just a more fun wacky one that an encarnation of going flip burgers at McDonalds ...

@ChrisZoZo yeah i wonder...If time does not exist and is Always this Now moment.. Why we Keep posponing the Dissolution? The surrender? The Bliss? The final trascendence? Yes just 20 more years of running around please ... Why?? I dont see the point Death is at the end of the corner, why not go the mountains now and surrender whole illusion and welcome death, why not end this Circus now. I want the Etheric inmortal Bliss, i want to go beyond physicality and mortality. Beyond language and knowing, beyond reality and unreality.