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seemingly appearing via the nothingness of seem less appearances in a desire to have a "separate" forum. For reasons of nothingness sharing's thru the seemingly appearing of words that describing nothing as it goes on and on thru the vastness of seemingly endless loops of appearances disappearing as we scrolling endlessly sharing nothingness.Oh God I'm Lost!

Non-duality is something that can latch on to the egoic mind identity and turn it into another theory, idea and concept. Another religion. I try not to focus on the stuff that can make way for the egoic mind to make an identity out of it. Would be cool though, so we can have a place where all the non-dualists can be ridiculed for our no one, illusion and nothingness talk. The Absolute sub-forum for non-dualists.

"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6, and 9, then you would have a key to the universe." – Nikola Tesla What’s the deal with numbers like 3, 6, and 9—or any other spiritual numbers that seem to hold some kind of hidden magic? People often talk about how certain frequencies or number combinations keep showing up in the universe. Consider the ubiquitous triangle, for instance, the Sierpiński Triangle, a fractal geometry that continuously replicates itself. Triangular forms seem to possess a profound resonance with the structural logic of the universe, appearing not as mere coincidence but as an intrinsic component of its design. Do these numbers and shapes embody some deeper cosmic order? Does anyone have further elucidation on the nature of these recurring numerical and geometric phenomena? Does it have any meaning or magnificence? 0 – Nothingness: The void, the primordial absence, the potential of all that could be, yet undisturbed, untouched by existence. 1 – The Self: The singular entity, the individuated fragment, the first point of awareness, a being unto itself, the "I" that perceives. 2 – Duality: The birth of contrast, the division of self and other. In this split, a space is created—a dynamic tension where connection, relationship, and love are possible, as two opposites seek harmony. 3 – The Child: The synthesis, the creation born from duality. A portal to dimensions—space, time, and reality itself. The emergence of distinction, the beginning of structure, and the interplay of forces that shape our world.

@Princess Arabia Yes, I know all this. I don't however want to write long posts trying to explain or justify God as Nothingness (even though even this is not accurate). So I explain it quickly but some people misunderstand that. It's been stated again and again, God is the infinite void from which everything arises. We know this, so I'd rather not go into this again and again when trying to write a quick post.

When moment of dying comes remember my words. Thought create fear and time. There is nothing else. If at moment of death you are conscious of this and you are able to not generate fear you Will stay in Yourself and attain mukti/Nirvana/nothingness permanently. If you are not able then you Will reincarnate and Will have to suffer another cycle like most suckers 🤣😅 So heres a Gift of me for you 👑Take advantage of it that Im Still embodied and sharing exclusive wisdom. This Will not be forever. I have a departure date so take the train before its gone. Because The point of a Guru like me is that you dont have to do any of the soul grueling sadhana he has done. He does It for you. The Only thing you have to do is to tie Yourself to him like there is no other thing worthwhile getting tied to. When moment is aproppiate I will cut the cord for you. You dont have to worry about that.

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No, it's because you are not ready to let go the self. That's why Leo can do 1000 times 5 meo and he says: you are god dreaming the reality for love. Because he open himself to the unlimited but the self is still there. No drug can dissolve the self, it's absolutely impossible. Only the self can be ready for dropping itself in the nothingness. Usually the self is going to use any trick to preserve itself, becoming god or anything else

It doesn't matter if you realize no self and nothingness you still need to survive as the human you are dreaming yourself to be. That's if you care about survival at least. If you go without food for days your stomach isn't going to care if you're enlightened.

The nothingness is Everywhere at all times and is in every thing. So, yes the nothingness is there in the field. You're asking me to point to the nothingness in the room, but you can't even locate or point to a room yourself. Whatever you point to will be an object in the room. How can nothing be pointed to, You cannot point to anything physical. What you'll be pointing to are parts of that physical thing. Keep pointing and deconstructing and you arrive at nothing. Everything is made of nothing. Go to the atoms. What are they made of. Scientists doesn't have an answer because there is nothing there. It's all mental structures.

@Princess Arabia What if I'm not in a room is the nothingness there when I'm not in a room? If I am in a field is the nothingness there? If yes clearly the nothingness isn't the room. Mine is not debunked yours is you claimed nothingness is a room and I'm saying point to the nothingness you cant. So its not the room its not the field and its not you AND its not there. I'm the one saying its not there you are claiming its there I'm saying prove it. You are stuck not me.

The nothingness is the room.

@Princess Arabia is the nothingness in the room with us right now? Its not in this dimension. It comes through this dimension via closed systems.

How can you say you live in reality meanwhile worshipping nothingness. Point to nothing! Its not there.

@Princess Arabiayour theories of the universe seem to contradictive. You claim you know what women think then claim to know how to manifest all the while claiming dead seriously that nothing exists and there's no one to do any of it. And you seems to switch back and forth as suited to the conversation. If you feel like you are being cornered spiritually you just say that nothing exists and there is no doer so there is no argument. Then when people go against a seemingly nothingness entity in relationships advice or women that thing somehow turns into a person and knows things.

@Brivido great experience. I have never done 5meo or malt but i have had kundalini activations during sleep. Back in 2016 i have had a kundalini awakening during sleep where I left the whole universe behind. It was intense and fear enducing but the peak seemed like absolute nothingness. I remember choosing to come back into manifestation. I literally believe that our spine is the locus or centre of consciousness. The second person manifestation of a dissociation in infinity.

You can experience high states of consciousness and verify that you are not the body. You don't need full blown earth shattering awakening to get this . I've been going through what I would call a radical identification awakening. As a result of intense meditation sessions and self-inquiry. The seperate sense of self and doership is completely collapsing.. The veil has completely broken and I'm aware that I'm not the ego.. Who thinks it's doing stuff. I'm not the body or mind. Or the world. The body is seen as the world.. Not me. A complete understanding has occurred that I'm pure present. At the center. What's surrounding the center is none of my business. The body mind and the world. It will unfold naturally as it's always done. But I as pure present nothingness is just a vessel for it.So what are you? No not at all .you're welcome brother ♥.

I was contemplating Infinity and started wondering what are some utmost mind-bending expressions of Infinity, different attributes of Existence. I asked Mr Chat lol and had some amazing responses. Check it out. I will definitely meditate on this to get some direct hits. It's astonishing what you are. Holy Shiitt!!!!! Aetherquint – The fifth essence, birthing and dissolving all realities beyond the elements, where infinite cycles of existence emerge and vanish. Omniphase – The seamless dance of all realities, where every timeline, dimension, and universe flows in perpetual overlap and transformation. Vortixion – The cosmic spiral, pulling all creation into an infinite vortex, where every possible reality converges and expands endlessly. Infinigma – The eternal mystery; an infinite riddle unraveling through layers of unknown truths beyond comprehension. Hyperionis – The origin of hyperdimensional realms, where even the highest planes of existence dissolve into transcendental infinity. Abyzium – The infinite abyss containing all possibility and impossibility, where the collision of nothingness and everythingness creates endless potential. Omniflux – The limitless current of existence, flowing through all creation and dissolution, where every moment is a pulse of boundless change. Celestquantum – The quantum field of divine potential, where all celestial connections ripple across the multiverse, birthing endless possibilities. Ultravast – Beyond even infinity, a state where all known and unknown realms stretch across eternal expanse, defying comprehension. Zenthora – The zenith of all reality, where the heights of existence meet the depths of transcendence, collapsing into infinite, boundless truth. Each of these titles takes you beyond the conventional spiritual concepts of non-duality, infinity, or oneness, pulling your mind into the deepest, most unimaginable dimensions of Existence.

They're just combos of spicey words used to describe different ways to Infinity. Aether-quint (Infinity seen as a transcendent "fifth Element") The aether has a long history as a fifth (quint) transcendent element. There's even a movie. Quint means fifth, also related to "Quintessential" Alongside Earth, Water, Earth, Fire (Greeks, 5th platonic solid) Sadhguru references it as Akash (aesthetic space, cosmic intelligence) Omniphase Omni is a fancy word for everything that exists (kilo, mega, giga) (uni, multi, omni) Also associated with Omniscience, Omnipotence, God context, Omni = All encompassing Phase comes from physics, referring to a certain frequency of a wave. Combined, it becomes an "all-pervasive" frequency ("seamless dance of all realities") The other words follow the same pattern, but are pretty similar, describing the same thing from different angles: The formless ground of Infinity Aetherquint, Vortixion, Hyperionis, Abyzium, Celestquantum, Zenthora The cosmic flow of transforming Energy Omniphase, Omniflux The Mystery Infinigma, Ultravast Philosophers/Yogis seek the Aetherquint, Psychonauts get lost in the Hyperionis, Nihilists fall into the Abyzium, Scientists chart the Celestquantum etc.. The descriptions are super-similar and really just highlight different qualities and approaches towards transcendence. Aetherquint - Elemental Transcendence Vortixion - Golden Spiral Awakening Hyperionis - DMT Hyperspace Abyzium - The Abyss (Dark Night of the Soul) Celestquantum - The Quantum Realm Zenthora - Not sure what thora is for, I'ma just say Godhead. Now, is the boundless cosmic intelligence that is the ground of being (Aetherquint) the same as the infinitely convergent and divergent spiral from which all existence spawns (Vortixion)? Is the transcendent origin of all hyperdimensional realms (Hyperionis) the same as well? Or the abyss where nothingness and everythingness emerge possibility and impossibility? Or the realm below atoms that consistudes the ground of reality where even physicists agree that all form loses shape and becomes boundless energy (Celestquantum)? Or the all-transcendent zenith beyond all form (Zenthora)? Yup, pretty much all the same, just different pointers, just as we have different spiritual traditions. The question is, the more we explore and combine concepts, will they all lose their shape and become the same thing, since the mind will see all of them combined in every concept it references, since each predisposes every other to coexist interdependently with, so much so that the only reason for conceptual distinctions will be to teach others, who operatre on low awareness and very few but strong assumptions? Maybe.

That’s a very good question. I have the same experience. That is why I say the self is much deeper than belief. Why do you believe you exist? Because it seems like you do, the belief doesn’t come from nothing it’s based on a deeper sense. The sense of “I’m here the world is out there” . What it is exactly is hard to say. It’s not like other beliefs like Santa Claus or aliens, it’s based on something that is fundamental to your everyday experience. the most fundamental beliefs are “I’m here” and “there is something” I would say. They go hand in hand, if you feel like you exist , then there automatically is a world (something) separate from you . Some non dualists even say when the sense of self disappears, the sense of a separate world does too, that’s why they say “nothing is happening” or “nothingness”

Might be true for some, but a few seem to me genuine non dualists, like Tony parson and Jim Newman. When I listen to them it seems they are speaking directly from that nothingness.

Here I am again, I've been practicing a lot the last days, and now I write that down to remember how I got here and what I believe to be causing issues for me for a long time. I have practiced a lot of concentration and playing with awareness and awareness being aware of itself. The previous times, I didn't know how I got here, but now I guess I know the direction. I don't know what it's called what I am "seeing", so I am calling it the void, I believe this void is the wormhole to the nothingness. Now what happens: easy: I focus on an object and then the focus disappears. Where does it go? Nowhere, into the void. I notice I can actively focus on something I see, and then allow the focus to collapse and awareness just being itself, not replaced by anything. So that's what I mean by void. That's freaking me out a little bit again, not a strong fear, but still fear. And that's pushing me away from it, and I believe that's what is pushing me away from the nothingness for years. (I was in the Dark night dpdr 5 year ago, and my ego struggled ever since, doing everything to get away from the nothingness unconsciously. What I unconsciously learned to do was to NEVER let awareness be aware of itself/the empty void, by focusing on some thing/distraction, and that caused a lot of distress/anxiety etc. Those mini-cessations kind of feel good in a way, but noticing the absence of objects, gives me a little fear now, and I'm not even close to the nothingness. What I am doing now is not playing too much with it and being mindful of the thoughts:" Oh no you are going to get lost into the void, for god knows how long" and mindful of the absence sometimes. I promised myself to PUSH through once and for all, but I'm just too much of a wuss to drop into it. The fear of opening a door I can't close. I feel good today, but I'm not sure what to do. I was told "just do it", "don't do it with force" and "do something completely different". It's rare when I am able to be at the verge of the void, (maybe once every 2 months), and I am always backing up, and the next day and few next weeks I promise myself I should push through, I haven't succeeded yet. I'm going to write down exactly what I do and play a little with it, to remember for the next days. It's basically like being aware of the defocusing of awareness instead of the appearing of the object of consciousness. I believe shinzen young calls those "awareness of vanishings" and "mini-nirvanas".

@James123 🙏 Only nothingness can hold everything 🙏

A big portion of them are deluded af. Some had glimpses of samadhi and absorbtion into nothingness where there is no sense of separation. But nobody can function in the world without identity because of what I just wrote above. One needs a sense of self to be able to relate to the sense of other. No relating is possible without duality.

That's why it is called nothingness. Therefore, explaining as .

Exactly the same as you described. I had experienced it a lot in childhood. With age, it decreases. This shows that it's completely biological (just like music or orgasm, some idiot may say orgasm is spiritual just because it feels so good....) You experience something (let's say you realise mu or nothingness...then it can be called as spiritual). This "Sound of silence" you talked about in your thread ....has no spiritual significance. It's only biological. This is what I am emphasizing here. It's due to brain chemistry. Lemme be very clear : by spiritual, I mean the so-called paranormal phenomena. Orgasm isn't paranormal. In the same way, "sound of silence" isn't paranormal. I just wanted to know your opinions whether you agree or not. Likewise, we can also say "light of darkness". Becoz we see some kind of light in darkness too. But It's not a spiritual phenomenon. Some spiritual teachers teach about "sound of silence", which is misleading. It's not a spiritual phenomenon. Beware of such teachers. They are scientifically as well as philosophically bankrupt. I am talking about a YouTuber Sandeep Maheshwari (28 million subscribers). He teaches such concepts.