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@Leo Gura whats ur take on the Absolute being Nothingness, beyond consciousness? several spiritual traditions seem to point to this

The problem with these methods is that every mind is different, with profound differences. For me, trying to focus the mind is torture and impossible. True meditation began in a way that seems quite silly, reciting a mantra while walking down the street constantly: nothing means nothing. Little by little I was accepting this fact. It doesn't mean that nothing means anything in general, but that I want to put myself in a state of mind in which meaning is deactivated. When you deactivate meaning, the mind stops creating conceptual thought threads, they fade away naturally. This doesn't mean that you have broken through the mental boundaries completely, but that you have gone down from the superficial conceptual layer, you are outside of it, the mind becomes liquid, fluid, but it is still limited. You can go for quite a long time without any thoughts, because if they don't mean anything, you don't need them to survive. Then you can try something else: you become aware of your sensory perception, of sounds, the sensation of your body, the sensation of the flow of reality. Is this the reality? Or are you the one who perceives these sensations? Are you the witness of the flow that occurs, of perception? So, without this flow, this witness, what is it? If you separate yourself from perception, the perceiver reveals himself as a non-existent point, there is no perceiver without perception, there is absolutely nothing. Is this nothing the final realization? No you have to be able to bear this, because the first time is horrible, it is perceived as death. If you are able to bear the sensations of absolute absence, horror of emptiness, it happens that nothingness reveals itself as the absolute, the absence of limits implies the total, then nothingness opens up and reveals itself as everything. It's like the nothingness opens and it's full. Full of what? Of you. You are that, the absolute

Exactly, without duality conciousness ceases. You could say: really there is not duality because everything is the same, etc, but anyway the appearance of two is needed. Without consciousness there is cessation, but cessation simply means absence of consciousness, not absence of absolute reality. Awakening, or enlightenment on whatever you want to call knowing your true nature means realizing that the reality beyond perception, nothingness, not the void in which you are aware of the void, but nothingness, meaning nothingness as the absence of any perception, is the living totality, the absolute potential. It is not a logical mental understanding, it is an opening that occurs in you when you transcend precisely the consciousness

ive been contemplating this consciousness duality. the fact that without an object of consciousness, consciousness ceases. im not sure i think thats true. i think it can be argued that consciousness actually IS the absolute, unchanging true Nothingness/deep sleep, from which all things, including experience emerge. the nature of consciousness is simply such that if it has nothing to know itself in relation to (duality), it cannot know that it itself actually exists. so the vast Nothingness without apperances (absolute) is actually pure consciousness. but its consciousness which is not aware of itself, since consciousness only can know that it exists through duality. Nothingness still has to be Something, since it is something that can actually be experienced, through cessation or deep sleep, meaning there is still a degree of sentience present.

Do this mental exercise: imagine that you would be yourself without sensory perception. Then imagine yourself without memory, then without mental movement. What would you be aware of? Absolutely nothing. Your field of perception would be nothing, so there would be no time, but this would be the absolute, the total potential from which infinite manifestations can emerge. This is the absolute, the nothingness that is everything, something outside the possibilities of thought or imagination, you could be open to it but not perceive it because perception, or conciousness, are happenings that happens in that potential Of course conciousness "always" happens, because no conciousness is out of time, then without conciousness it's not happening, but it doesn't mean than conciousness is absolute, it's just an arising, but this arising always happens because when it's not happening is not "when", it's never, but this never is the absolute. Some meditation is needed The human mind needs a concious cause for the cosmos, because an unconscious cause can't be imagined, but this concious cause would be relative. Absolute means total, don't need intention, be aware of itself, just because it's absolute. It is without will or awareness, it's because can't not be, then don't need any conciousness, conciousness just arises, as anything else Real awakening means be open to the absolute in yourself. You are that absolute that can't be thought or imagined, and for "you" is the same be conscious or unconscious. It's just difference of state.

The Bliss that is being talked about is Braman itself, is not a psychological Happy state, like the one could get from transactions in the world. Bliss is a natural result of You losing identification with anything, and is identical to ultimate Liberation and Enlightment. How would It feel to finally be Free? Blissful, of course. Nirvana Shatakam mantra says: "I am the form of consciousness and Bliss, I am Shiva (that which is Not)". Nice you mention Sadhguru, here's his take on It: Nirvana means "formless." The Nirvana Shatakam is towards this – you don’t want to be either this or that. If you don’t want to be this nor that, then what do you want to be? Your mind cannot understand this because your mind always wants to be something. If I say, “I don’t want to be this; I don’t want to be that,” you would think, “Oh something super!” Not super. “Oh, so emptiness?” Not emptiness.“Nothingness?” Not nothingness. That’s what is being conveyed through this chant.

12th name Amrita Varshini It's a name given to Devi, which means "the one who showers Amritam". Amritam represents a liquid which is the pinnacle of sweetness and pleasantness and is also considered to be the elixir of immortality. Varshini is term used to describe the 'goddess of the rains'. Devi is believed to shower an abundance of Amritam on her devotees, if they are open and receptive to receiving it. 13th name Bhakta Rakshini Bhakta Rakshini - the fierce goddess known for the unwavering protection of Her devotees. She is revered as the ultimate mother and guardian of the five fundamental elements of nature and the entire cosmos.Bhairavi devotees can experience her protective nature through consecrated forms such as The Bhairavi Raksha or a Devi Yantra. Additionally,physical contact with a consecrated form of Devi can create a protective cocoon around the devotee. 14th name Saubhagya Dayini The name means - The Bestower of Good Fortune.Devi is the one who grants prosperity, happiness,and success, not just in material aspects but also in terms of life and its fulfillment. With Devi Bhairavi's Grace, good luck is showered on her devotees, blessing them success beyond their own capabilities and efforts. She is the ultimate Giver of all that is essential for one's growth and blossoming from various walks of life. 15th name Sarva Janani Sarva Janani is the name of Devi that personifies her as a mother of all. Sarva means all and Janani means one who gives Janma or birth. So Devi is the one to breed, nourish and sustain life, not just of human beings but of the entire Earth. As a mother is tender, nourishing, and fiercely protective, Janani also pertains to all women and denotes the feminine nature to the closest. 16th name Garbha Dayini The name means bestower of the womb. 'Garbha' refers to womb. 'Dayini' means the bestower. As Devi is the ultimate mother of all life here, she is also the one to bestow this gift of motherhood.She is the womb where existence happens, a space where all creation is. So, she is also the one who provides the power to procreate in all life forms. 17th name Shoonya Vasini This name means the one who dwells in shoonya or emptiness. Out of all the words that we can use to describe shoonya - the origin, infinity, emptiness, void, vacuum, nothingness - Shoonya is the vast nothingness from which the creation was born. In Sanskrit, shoonya implies empty space or void. In mathematics also, shoonya denotes zero, the ultimate number that has no value of iits own but can add value to any other number. As creation happens in the lap of this vast limitless void, Devi dwells in shoonya. In this very source of all creation, She opens it up as a possibility for all. 18th name Maha Nandini This name is the praise to Devi as one who is a great giver of joy, pleasantness, and happiness. 'Nand' means delight/ joy. Literally, nandinī means a woman who brings joy. It also specifically refers to a daughter, as a daughter brings joy to the family. In the Hindu religion, Goddess Parvati is often addressed by this name as Nandini refers to one of the eight eternal companions (Ashtanayika)of Goddess Parvati. 19th name Vameshwari Vama means the left side, and Ishwari means The Goddess. Goddess Parvati is referred to as Vameshwari because she sits on the left side of Shiva, she indicates that the left side of the human body is feminine. Even today, in our culture married women are made to sit on the left of their husbands.Vama also means occult or path of tantra. As Vameshwari, Devi is also the basis of all occult and Tantra. 20th name Karma Palini Goddess Bhairavi is the ruler of karma, which is the basis of everything that you are today. Devï's grace can dissolve ones karma and hasten their spiritual growth. 21st name Yonishwari - This name describes Devi as the womb of the,whole creation. Yoni' in Sanskrit is a word for the womb of all mobile and immobile beings.Yoni is also the female counterpart of the Linga. Linga is penis and scrotum. And Yoni is the Vagina. As the genesis of the whole material world, she is the space and source where the creation resides. And as the Goddess of all wombs, she is the bestower of the power to procreate and produce. 22nd name Linga Roopini Roopini means form and this name means her original Linga Bhairavi form in which all her attributes are unified into one. Her original self.

twice in my life I've had near ego death. It happened the same way both times but different locations. Both times I was dead sober, infact I've never done psychedelics before. The first was when I was skipping class and laying on my back in the back of my car. Suddenly I felt my body begin to vibrate. Not subtly but very violently as if I was strapped to a plate compactor. I could also here a loud whirring sound, as if you were on an airplane and the window next to you were to break off. I could sit up but I wanted to ride this out. Then a portal of indescribably intense white light surrounded by fractals opened up above me and began to pull me. The closer I got the more amnesia I developed, I could no longer remeber names of family members, where I was. As I got closer the amnesia deepened I couldn't even recall my name at this point and was losing grasp even of the concept that I am a human being. I was becoming nothingness. Now shapes and sounds continued, sensations continued but the entity that was there to observe them and give meaning to them which I call "I" was dissipating. As I got closer I knew I was only a step away from absolute cessation and I began to panic that's when I snapped out of it and the portal closed and everything went back to normal. The second time I was laying in bed and snapped myself out very quickly cause I knew where it was leading. I don't think this experience made my more spiritual. Instead it frightened me, I don't want to go into cessation and become nothingness. It honestly felt terrifying and disappointing. I imagined my first spiritual experience would be fantastical. The feeling of my consciousness being elevated and become more aware. Instead it was the opposite and felt like everything was closing in including my sense of self. I hated it, I hated the fact that reality could even produce such an experience. I honestly wish I had just been raised some fundamentalist christian and had a simple world view that made me feel secure. That I could believe in heaven. Instead I was raised agnostic and have had to battle this existential dread and uncertainty around death my whole life. However I have no choice, you can't force belief.

When I would get sleep paralysis I would get it so much that I started playing with it and I would go into it then force myself out and go into it and force myself out. When forcing myself out I would get the sensation of being in a car on a highway with all the windows rolled down. Maybe your higher self was forcing itself out of this. It is very scary to enter the nothingness but the bright side is the universe cant stay the same so if you get rid of that fear then you can hopefully jump into it without the fear. This is essentially spirituality getting used to jumping into the nothingness with no fear and trust in God. Thats where trust in God comes from jumping in there happy. Cool that it happened randomly but also scary, to be in the middle of a conversation and just start dissapearing would be awkward.

@Princess Arabia If such a narrative, such a perception of things serves you, no problem, good for you. For me it is useless and that's it. Of course, I do not mean to prove that this or that person was exceptional because, first of all, everyone is exceptional, secondly, whether this exceptionality means something to us, each of us assesses it ourselves and this is everyone's sacred right to their own opinion. I simply believe that freedom, in order to be freedom, must be fully conscious as a fundamental feature of our true nature. One cannot be partially free, therefore in the full realization of freedom circumstances cease to play a role. We have examples in our history of people who bore witness to this authentic, inner freedom regardless of the circumstances in which they had to live. And in many cases these were very difficult circumstances. You see, I am interested in what is authentic. What is authentic and true is, as it turns out, very practical and has the power of real change and transformation. I do not see such potential in the constant repetition of phrases about absolute nothingness, non-dual emptiness. Sometimes it looks like well-disguised nihilism resulting from inner suffering. Where is this supposed to lead? The fact is that we are here and now on Earth, in a divine dream. I have said many times that if a dream is a relative reality, you cannot claim that it does not happen. I understand that this is a difficult experience and I myself want to get the hell out of here more than once, but I feel that this is not the point. Of course, I may be wrong, just like you😉

You will know you astral projected if you observe things/people then confirm with them the next day by asking where they were or what they were doing/wearing and such around that time of the day or night compared to a lucid dream. A good method is to awaken relatively early in the morning around 4 - 5 am and lay on your back, hands to the side or facing up, set the intention to leave the body and astral project, and enter a deep meditative state by doing some slow and deep breaths and then willingly moving your body out of your body without actually moving your physical body. I did this a few times, it does take some practice, sometimes it happens by accident too where you even let go of willingly trying to get up and just continue the breaths. This was before the energy of enlightenment and higher consciousness took over and I dissolved into nothingness for a while, before that I was all into this stuff but eventually you realize its all ego-desires and mind-stuff which can be very fun and appealing, its not the true path to peace and freedom. Somethings I feel the devil or mind is offering psychic abilities and powers(fancy spiritual stuff) where the heart or god is offering inner-peace and freedom of being, simple yet appearing very ordinary stuff that is far more great than all the powers and abilities in the world as it may just distract you more from the fundamental truths of being.

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@Javfly33 @Ishanga @Breakingthewall In Buddhism they believe in reincarnation and karma. You keep reincarnating after death until you "pay" all your karma and then you stop and cease to exist completely. That state of cessation and nothingness is called "Nirvana ". It's basically a form of salvation and being free from the sufferings of life. (because according to Buddhism.. life is suffering). I was raised as a Hindu. Hinduism also have moksha . Which is when the self realises its The Self .when the drop realises its the entire ocean and dissolves into infinity . Its also in Hinduism called when atman (the human self ) awakens to the realization that its Brahman (the universal Self or the "all") What do you think of the Buddhist and Hindu narrative? And what is your own definition of Nirvana? Of course anyone is free to comment..maybe Leo or @Princess Arabia or @Davino or @Hojo or @Razard86etc . But I tagged these three members on top because I read them using these terms often and i want to get a full comprehensive idea of how this works . To me..life is not a video game ..with past lives and accumulated karma and shit like that . We just born ..live ..die ..and disappear as a finite human..and then you exist as formless consciousness forever. But then again why the hell shouldn't a limited form exist again ? Bottom line is consciousness is immortal .it can't die in its most basic absolute form .but the details remain a mystery. I guess we all gonna die and find out .or...?

For me enlightenment is being open to the absolute, that's a reality, and it doesn't depends exactly of your level of consciousness. It is rather the rupture of a pattern of perception, the pattern involves perceiving as a "happening", as a chain of events. You can have a very high level of consciousness of what your experience is, but you cannot get out of the experience. the absolute is not experience, this is very difficult to see but it is obvious. What is an experience? something that happens, that goes from point A to B. The absolute is dimensionless, therefore it does not occur, it does not move, it is immutable. Imagine that your experience is always exactly the same, would it be an experience? would it be something? For reality to appear as something must change and any change is relative. Openness to the absolute is not perceiving the absolute because perceiving requires change, you cannot perceive nothingness, or deep sleep, or death, which are simply absence of change, you can be open to it, because you really are that. Everything become nothing, infinity and zero are the same in the sense of absence of "happening", and absolute potential. In infinity nothing happens because it encompass any possibile happening, it already happened infinite times, then, it's the same than no happening. There is not movement, any movement is just apparent, relative to a reference point, but not real, then it's homogeneous and immutable, same than the nothingness. Nothingness is everything, everything is nothingness, and this is the absolute, that is, you.

You mean nothingness? We agree the body does not reincarnate because once it dies it gets dissolved into the earth . I think you'd have to posit an eternal primordial substance that doesn't die .

When I created the topic about mahasamadhi or ultimate mukti I was not talking about disappearing as being destroyed, but as a losing the anchor to a limited form. Which, in a way, it is being destroyed, because all we know as egos is limited forms and anchors. But anyways, ultimate goal is complete bliss, which means not taking more limited forms. For sure, I´m not there yet at all. There is not stability still, There is a lot of distractions and going back and forth. You could say Im prolonging the inevitable, but is also true as an ego I don´t have a choice or control in the timings. nothingness seems negative and 'small', thats why maybe seems contradictory to 'everythingness'. My main point is that Reality is real, is awareness and is alive. And that finite reality or identification with form is a delusion.

Well if that's the case..then why make dozens of threads about cessation..mahasmadhi..non existence..ending the cycle of reincarnation etc ? If you feel happy just by existing then this is good. This a sign of enlightenment. But i don't believe you're "there "yet . I've followed your posts over the years ...you improved..but you still believe the true nature is nothingness and not both nothingness and everythingness ..which oddly enough you seem to contradict once again with this post. So what's the deal jav?

Every category has a hidden loop you can find that relates to the concept of nothing. Contemplation is relating one word to other words over and over again until your neural pathways understand its relation to nothingness. When the pathway do this the neurons will understand that their connections are pointing to God and they will self delete leading to a eureka moment. In the eureka moment of neurons deleting you see God. The brain will say wow I knew something so totally then realized I didn't and am now free.

Not quite . You as God have created this limited existence and incarnate as a human is for you to experience what its like to be limited. Before you were born you were in Nirvanic nothingness aka God mode and you were blessed out enjoying your infinitude and perfection . Why did you decide to imagine you are a limited human? Because well ..why the fuck not ? you have eternity to be infinite ..and only few decades to be finite . Make the most of it . Or quit and go back to Nirvana. Choice is yours . For me personally I know everything happens for a reason.

Don't focus on the limit focus on its most stable state of nothingness. As you have stated focusing on the infinity aspect cannot be done.

Open-nothingness. Hehe

Here I am again, I've been practicing a lot the last days, and now I write that down to remember how I got here and what I believe to be causing issues for me for a long time. I have practiced a lot of concentration and playing with awareness and awareness being aware of itself. The previous times, I didn't know how I got here, but now I guess I know the direction. I don't know what it's called what I am "seeing", so I am calling it the void, I believe this void is the wormhole to the nothingness. Now what happens: easy: I focus on an object and then the focus disappears. Where does it go? Nowhere, into the void. I notice I can actively focus on something I see, and then allow the focus to collapse and awareness just being itself, not replaced by anything. So that's what I mean by void. That's freaking me out a little bit again, not a strong fear, but still fear. And that's pushing me away from it, and I believe that's what is pushing me away from the nothingness for years. (I was in the Dark night dpdr 5 year ago, and my ego struggled ever since, doing everything to get away from the nothingness unconsciously. What I unconsciously learned to do was to NEVER let awareness be aware of itself/the empty void, by focusing on some thing/distraction, and that caused a lot of distress/anxiety etc. Those mini-cessations kind of feel good in a way, but noticing the absence of objects, gives me a little fear now, and I'm not even close to the nothingness. What I am doing now is not playing too much with it and being mindful of the thoughts:" Oh no you are going to get lost into the void, for god knows how long" and mindful of the absence sometimes. I promised myself to PUSH through once and for all, but I'm just too much of a wuss to drop into it. The fear of opening a door I can't close. I feel good today, but I'm not sure what to do. I was told "just do it", "don't do it with force" and "do something completely different". It's rare when I am able to be at the verge of the void, (maybe once every 2 months), and I am always backing up, and the next day and few next weeks I promise myself I should push through, I haven't succeeded yet. I'm going to write down exactly what I do and play a little with it, to remember for the next days. It's basically like being aware of the defocusing of awareness instead of the appearing of the object of consciousness. I believe shinzen young calls those "awareness of vanishings" and "mini-nirvanas".

Masculine (+) Represents the 1—the shrunken form of 0, mirroring Omnipotence. The Ego The Conqueror The Limited, "corrupt" form of The Self, or God This aspect embodies the first split of awareness—Ego consciousness—a fragment that exists separately from God, marking the initial fall from grace often associated with the "Devil." This fragment yearns to survive, seeking to extend its existence beyond the confines of what The Truth of Reality allows. It resists surrender, engaging in a relentless struggle to conquer, change, and manipulate reality to its advantage. This quest for power manifests as "Evil," driven by the impulses of the "Ego" and self-preservation—the origin of war, destruction, boundaries, possessions, and the dichotomy of self and other. This Ego desires to become Godlike, seeking power, omnipotence, and control. It's a fragment of God; hence, it wants to behave in a God-like manner. However, it fails to recognize its limits, as doing so would go against its survival nature. Consequently, it becomes corrupted and deluded away from the Truth, leading to suffering. Grounded in practical, logical, reality-based, and scientific thinking, the masculine archetype emphasizes a desire to exploit, change, and mold the truth and reality—viewing life through a lens of danger and threat. It seeks respect, clarity, and a lack of vagueness, valuing directness over chaos, with its will manifesting in tangible actions. This archetype is often represented by qualities associated with warriors (war), fighters, and action-takers. It embodies the relentless pursuit of self-preservation, frequently portrayed as stoic, exhibiting emotional restraint, and adopting a cold demeanor. The masculine is characterized by its resilience; it is not easily impacted but rather seeks to impact, initiate change, and assert control. This depiction often leans toward the elder, less innocent figure, sometimes bordering on evil, psychopathic, or monstrous. Additionally, the masculine encompasses archetypes such as the King, representing authority, order, and leadership; the Hero, symbolizing courage and the willingness to face challenges, against the current status quo - not surrendering, being the change, the one to be admired, the one to rely and count on; and the Sage, embodying intellectual rigor. These archetypes further highlight the masculine’s inclination towards structure, responsibility, and mastery over one's environment, reinforcing its role as the initiator of change and defender of reality. Masculinity: strength, power, dominance, action, control, stoicism, selfishness, rationality, logic, discipline, courage, independence, assertiveness, competition, protection, resilience, ambition, structure, order, pragmatism, decisiveness, responsibility, leadership, focus, determination, self-preservation, strategy, aggression, initiative, self-reliance, boundaries, and the one that penetrates through. Feminine (-) Represents the 2—the shrunken form of 0, mirroring Nothingness. The Connector The Other Love—a limited, corrupted form of love—stands in contrast to the qualities of the 1 (for the sake of dualities, which eventually unify). This aspect represents a return to unawareness, focusing on the other rather than the self or the ego. It embodies selflessness, giving, caring, nurturing, and accepting reality as it is, without protesting against the truth. It is the one who is impacted by reality, surrendering to it, taking the full emotional hit—open and vulnerable, reflecting nothingness and emptiness. It becomes the vessel that "gets filled," "gets penetrated," molded, and changed, submitting to the process, embodying love that envelops and wraps itself around the truth. This aspect feels deeply and does not filter to preserve the ego. This is why the feminine is often portrayed as more emotional, as it accepts and internalizes impact. It is the one that is open and vulnerable, often represented as innocent, fragile, and gentle—less filtered and less protected. It embodies the archetype that must be preserved and saved, often viewed as "beautiful or perfect"—or, alternatively, as uncorrupted by ego and selfishness. This archetype is frequently the one that is more easily damaged or hurt, leading to depictions of safety, the damsel in distress, the prey, the victim, and the martyr—the one that takes on the dualities of reality and reflects them back. Moreover, the feminine is in tune with nature and guided by intuition, focusing on the transcendental rather than the rigidities of reality. This is why spirituality, mysticism, astrology, and numerology—along with other vague magical principles—are often seen as less defined, more chaotic, and more distinct, embodying feminine qualities. Such fields are associated with soft sciences like psychology, sociology, and human institutions, which aim to understand the complexities of human experience rather than impose absolute truths. Femininity embodies a fluidity that transcends rigidity, capturing beauty in its many forms—music, art, poetry, and fashion. These elements draw us away from the confines of the ego, immersing us in experiences that heal, regenerate, and allow us to flourish and grow. In this state of nothingness and emptiness, there is no hierarchical thinking; instead, we find community and unity. The archetypes of femininity include The Mother, representing caring, support, and nurturing; The Muse, a symbol of transcendence, beauty, and perfection; The Innocent, embodying purity and fragility, untouched by the ego and evils of the world; The Martyr, the victim archetype, more easily hurt due to her openness and vulnerability; and The Wise Woman (The Sage), guided by intuition and deeply connected to spirituality, bridging the gap between the earthly and the divine. Femininity: nurturing, love, intuition, empathy, vulnerability, receptivity, selflessness, connection, compassion, acceptance, emotionality, softness, beauty, creativity, exposure, surrender, harmony, fluidity, support, collaboration, care, understanding, wholeness, transcendence, nature, instinct, openness, vulnerability, innocence, gentleness, reflection, community, and the one that embraces, gets impacted, penetrated. Masculine: The Ego Feminine: The Unawareness or Transcendence of the Ego ⚠️ By the way, before I get lynched by the red pill crowd, this has nothing to do with actual men and women, as we are far more complex systems than these dualities suggest. We can all exhibit, and do both masculine and feminine qualities. While there may be some truth at a large scale regarding humanity, I would argue that we are much more similar than polarized. Both men and women can be deeply entrenched in their ego or completely detached from it; the ego itself is neither evil nor good. Much of the harm that arises comes from being unaware or attempting to transcend reality when one really shouldn’t be. ⚠️

Let's see, obviously I know that I'm a man, that I need money, that I can be sick and that of someone hits me with an iron bar is bad for me, but we are talking in metaphisical sense. What are you ultimately. Then, ultimately it's beyond the conceptual dimension, anything that you could say conceptual has a limit, for example: I'm a man, that is a dimension of life after a lot of evolution, that is a dimension of the matter , that is a dimension of the energy, that is something that happens in the cosmos and that organizes itself in complex patterns. Ok, well, all this is conceptual. Then I could say: and this energy is a manifestation of the divine power that arises from nothingness because there are not limits and want to experience itself. But all that is not what you are, what you are is here and now, a reality beyond any concept, right? Then, can you, or anyone open yourself totally to realize what you really are? Then you can say all that conceptual thing, but really open to yourself, really, the absolute, is something different, it's just absolute, impossible to say. And it's not, ah ok, I'm conciousness, no, it's absolute and real, it's what existence is. It's nothing like obvious, or normal, or eureka moment, it's open a door that is closed . What closes is the movement, the experience

Yes! To be honest, at this point, it’s just semantics. The "final" truth is that all dualities eventually collapse into oneness. The way you define that oneness is as everything there can be - but to be everything, you must also embody nothing. To truly be everything, you must be propertyless, meaning you cannot have anything that defines or limits you. Paradoxically, this means you cannot be anything but nothing, because if you took on any specific form, you’d isolate or separate yourself from being everything. In the "absolute" sense, you have to be nothing to embody everything. And in order to be everything, you must also include nothingness. If you're speaking about relative Everythingness and relative Nothingness, they are a duality as they define each other. However, if you're speaking about absolute Everythingness or absolute Nothingness, they are essentially the same thing. They point to the same ultimate truth, aspect of God, or God itself - depending on how you choose to define it semantically. Words, after all, are just pointers to truth or the absolute experience. Let me know if this helps! Good Luck! 😊💛