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God exists, the Devil exists, what is the Devil? God experiencing itself as evil. If you have ever wondered about the nature of evil I would suggest you take another route. Here is a tale of a man that learned first-hand never to ask for this lesson.... I recently went so far in Spirituality I lost my mind. The investigation into Consciousness and Awareness and what exactly was going on gave way into a deep dive into uncontrollable hallucinations, and consistent nightmares. I went without sleep for weeks and eventually this led to loss of personal possessions, and a trip to a psyche ward for some anti-psychotics. I have the ability to maintain a heightened/altered states for weeks without any effort and this was caused by a small dose of CBD edibles. I believe I'm done taking any kind of substance that can take me away from baseline consciousness as my last foray has proven dangerously detrimental to my survival. I did get to commune with God but that communion was not one that was done with proper foresight. I asked to gain an experiential understanding into the nature of evil, and I was given a front row seat into that experience. I had every word I ever wrote, every thought, used against me in a metaphysical courtroom against me to treat me like a criminal. I was debased, tortured and verbally and physically assaulted till I lost it. I was pushed to my brink and realized only a fool would ever want to know evil. I have said before that the desire to commit suicide is the greatest evil you can know personally and I was given the opportunity to experience that desire in the fullness of its glory and as a result I am much more appreciative of others and their mental fragility since I was forced to face my own. I am sharing this as a warning, don't ask to know evil unless you are ready to receive the greatest unwelcome party imaginable. Nothing like a little mistaken identity taken to its extreme. In short I was shown that God both controls, and doesn't control everything, and that my human vessel's only power in relation to all that is, is the ability to react but even that ability to react, to respond, can be easily taken away by a mind constantly being bombarded by wayward thoughts. We take our mental and physical health for granted. I learned also through experience, why we are always innocent before God. All our good works are for naught, all the evil we have experienced is also for naught. I learned that God takes all sides/perspectives of relationships, and that God does not know what a lie is outside of our perspective. T:L:D:R Spirituality is dangerous once you start entering altered states, so be wary be cautious with your inquisitions.
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Yes, it is possible. I was depressed and suicidal and I also attempted suicide but didn't die years ago. I'm now also in a similar situation to you career wise. I'm 25 years old, and I'm not successful in any career yet; I've barely even started and kept on doing anything. But I'm never suicidal anymore. And I'm grateful to life and enjoy being alive. The most important thing you should know for sure is that it's not impossible at all on the contrary it is very much more possible than you might think. Just have faith in life, and it will take care of you. Just don't doubt it. Never doubt it. Life takes care of you. Just trust it and everything will be OK. All is well.
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This is exactly what is happening in the "unconscious" "unawakened" mind. It believes what it's telling itself. You brought up some interesting points here. Notice I didn't use the words desperate and insecure. They are descriptive words that describe another way of being. Those traits doesn't attract they repel. One can attract while still in a lack mindset. They can attract more situations and circumstances that will make them feel more lack. There is really only abundance in the Universe e.g an abundance of lack, or an abundance of scarcity mindset etc. I'm not saying he recognizes this yet or ever will. He might stay miserable inside for the rest of his life. The billionaire might not have known when he was poor that he would still be miserable and unhappy being rich. You're right, we don't know until we experience these contrasts. You said something in essence to how what it feels like to have this level of confidence and abundance and I was responding and telling how that deep down this is not really the case only appears to be. Then us as onlookers develop a sense of lack ourselves when we see these things and do the comparison thing while being ignorant to what abundance really is and now feelings of depression and sadness kicks in. This is how we create our own demise. Those women are just props in his world to reflect back to him what's really going on but he's not conscious enough to read between the lines and neither are you. You see it as abundance and confidence when it's really only his reflection reflecting back his sense of lack. Lacking in love and attention and self worth. This is why I say pay no attention to the outside world, see it as a mirage and just go with the flow. Pay attention to your own thoughts and feelings and put your awareness on things you'd like to experience but not on the lack of it. He's feeling good in the moment but when itls all done he feels worse than he did before it started. That's polarity at play and how the body responds to outside stimuli. That's why there's gambling addiction or any addiction. Hit the jackpot feel good, that feels good till it wears off and now you want some more and the cycle begins and spirals into depression and feelings of suicide. It's the same high/low kind of polarity at play. Nothing stable within. The ocean keeps stirring up. No peace.
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I started having these thoughts of jumping from a high floor, I was at a hotel last year when it happened, I stared down, And my mind started making up a story of how nice it would be to just jump and end all this suffering that's been going on for a while. It seemed like the perfect solution as to my life, since my life is just a dream why should I care that much if everything's so illusionary with their illusionary consequence. So i attempted, but i freaked out went on bed (not sure if i was consciously stopping it or my subconscious mind freaked out about it ) and there it was mind won't stop racing thoughts about that incident, all night and morning, that it wouldn't stop until like 2 weeks have passed I've been having these episodes of it coming and going, Felt like it was getting stronger at times when i follow those thoughts. They'd like for days or weeks, My mind is calmer now but i easily fall under the trap of i should go for it since life feels so meaningless and i dislike a lot about it and i just can't seem to get it the way i want life to run for me. It feels like someday maybe i could really lose control and go over it, since it felt automatic at the time back then. I can kinda of understand how suicidal people are since i've never been in that state of mind before. I used to be able to say yeah i want to die and suicide since i was 13-14 but that thought would go away within a few seconds to a minute and won't really come up again until months or years passing by and i'd let go not thinking too much about it over the years, But this seems like another weird infiltrated virus that just won't stop leaving me alone pushing me to do it every time, even though i'm trying not to entertain it, it seems very believable as a good idea out of suffering. Even though i keep telling myself over and over it's not as bad as i exaggerate it to be, i still have a lot left, but it's hard to feel the past's well being due to my chronic anxiety. (there's like a pain/uneasiness worry that never goes away keeps cycling between my chest/heart/throat, i just loathe it that part the most with my health issues. (tinnitus/hyperacis/back/leg injury/kidney issues, not sure how to explain it but i have several 5meo side effects, my mind and body just doesn't feel the same feels weird/off and i can't be my past self as i used to be, i have a lot of memory issues which is making it hard for me to cope/learn from my experiences or speak in a proper manner without much brain fog) I really crave early financial freedom since i was so close to get it but i gambled it all away in crypto thinking i could reach UHNWI and i'm manipulating people/ market to make it work eventually. But that was just dumb i keep bringing up the past over and over from a lot of petty stuff with lots of overthinking. As for love i just realized egoic human love is always conditional over unconditional so i thought there could be some unbreakable unshakable bond with someone here for me, but apparently that doesn't exist either salty about wasting all my life for her only to get cheated on multiple times through out the years as i tried to forgive and let go just for it to keep repeating with no remorse. I can't grow feelings to anyone anymore after that experience, I just dislike people in general. Advice? Thank you for caring
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PurpleTree replied to enchanted's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
And soon you’ll be in a cult probably. Drinking suicide juice because your guru said it’s the good thing to do. -
Razard86 replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm not saying the desire to commit suicide is evil. The underlying desire to commit Suicide is Absolutely Good, only a person who truly hates their life would ever want to commit suicide. But since everyone loves themselves, the greatest form of harm you can ever commit is to kill yourself. To kill yourself is the greatest betrayal you can ever commit, and its an act of mercy one would attempt if they view their life as the greatest betrayal. A deep experience of Evil, will make suicide logical, and that is not something I would wish upon anyone. -
It's possible to fake like you care about people, as evidenced by Trump. That's the game we're in, which gives you thrills when considering ways the right can manipulate people but triggers your morals when you think of the left doing it. Replace "young white men" with, "the idea that young white men". You might say that I'm engaging in toxic masculinity rather than frustration. What I'm really expressing is my disdain for toxic ideas, hypocrisy, and weakness, which is the same weakness the right likes to make fun of the left for. Little snowflakes who melt with the slightest bit of emotional discomfort. That AI needs an epistemic upgrade. A better answer would have been something like: Based on such scant data, we can't be sure, but if we had to make a judgement based only on this, it's a reasonable assumption, although not definitive. If you want to know the truth, you could have just asked me 😆 I'm a middle-class, middle-aged, straight, single white male. I don't watch MSNBC. I've never been to a political protest or defended any minority group in my life. I've only ever had sex with women. My view of young white men is about the same as my view of young black men. Which is they're both just humans. I'm mocking the ideas being discussed, not the people holding the ideas. It seems this is rare. I'm not the type to attack people but ideas are fair game in my book. I recognize the plight of the human condition and I don't blame people for anything. I don't hate them for their ideas and I don't hate any group. Not even suicide bombers. But I will brutally mock their ideas, and TBH, I don't care to tiptoe around it. If I have a horrible idea, I don't mind if it's attacked. In fact, I wish it would be. Maybe I'm just oldschool or something, but I don't think young men should hear the message that there's something wrong with them and they've been abandoned by society. Even worse, to blame it on a fucking political party is STUPID! IF you hold that idea, I'm calling the idea stupid. Not you! This idea is not only fallacious, it's toxic. It's not good for anyone except the people who don't give two shits about them, profiting off it financially and politically. The hypocrisy of this idea is off the charts. And here's AI's summary of this message. It almost got it right.
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This is a reductive point. You can reduce anything to simply being about identity. Why not commit suicide? your just surviving your identity anyway...
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I had this thought today that I don’t think suicide is such a big of a deal as it’s made to be. We didn’t chose to be birthed and shouldn’t have to stay alive if we don’t want to. Imagine how much suffering could be ended if it was easier to kill oneself, maybe helped medically. Some cases can be very hopeless for the person, so I think getting help to die should be more accessible. But I’m guessing it’s a controversial opinion.
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Someone here replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Death is eternal rest . You are still young you haven't gotten yet to experience the nightmare of being old. Once you hit your 60s you will actually find the idea of death and resting in peace very attractive. And the only reason you wont commit suicide is to not hurt those people who love and care about you . But you yourself will be so done with life that literally nothing would matter to you. The more you age the more you accept death and make love with it .it's your ticket to salvation from Samsara. -
It is never easy to understand why someone attempts suicide, and the reasons are varied and complex. Often suicide involves emotional or physical pain that someone finds to be unbearable and leaves them feeling as if there is no escape. Hopelessness. People sometimes reach a point where they feel there is no hope and no way to change that feeling. When they are hopeless, they may realize the good things in their life, making suicide a viable option to escape. Traumatic Stress. Traumatic experiences such as sexual abuse, physical abuse, assault, or war trauma can put someone at greater risk for suicide, even a great time after the event takes place. What do you think of suicide? Do you think it's a sin ? Is it really the only way out after one has become fed up with existence? Where do you think the person who killed himself go? What awaits him on the other side ?
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Sadghuru and some other astral projection youtuber (Ryan cooper) say that suicide will simply trap you in the astral realm for a very long time, where you will work trough your karma by reliving your nightmares constantly OR upon death you will become disembodied and basically the first thought/tendency that pops up will be projected and magnified infinitely. So being fearful will get you to unimaginable paranoia and suffering. This game is rigged and not even death promises relief from the loneliness and sheer insanity of it all
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Some suicide cases in the IDF, PTSD. But are they the victims? Well... It's said that Jews were expelled from Muslim countries, and so does Ethan Klein. A deeper look about that: Finkelstein analyzes the two frame questions of Piers Morgan.
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DocWatts replied to Average Actualizer's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
YouTube has had a longstanding policy of demonitizing and delisting videos for controversial topics that aren't palatable to advertisers (meaning they're on the site, but they won't show up in your Recommended feed). I've seen vids on topics such as suicide and the Holocaust get delisted. Ever notice a video title with 'N*zi' instead of 'Nazi' in the title? That's that the algorithm at work. Little surprise if Rogan's three hour pow-wow with a rapist who launched a violent coup against our government is deemed 'controversial' by the algorithm. -
I have never considered the metaphysics of pedophilia. I do know that societal mores rule, however. If the 'state' of pedophilia is a continuum, I see it as even more problematic for society to get it correct. I had a friend who nearly committed suicide because he was charged with having an 'affair' with a 13-year-old. The child/girl was not pre-pubescent and very promiscuous (the mother was a behavior model). He got caught up with her. He received no jail time but was put on the watch list, etc. I always thought they had married but I found out a few years ago that they didn't but they did subsequent to the charges have a child together. They continued the relationship for more than a few years.
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Does a female just want sex, love and everything that comes with attention from the male she is with? No, she also wants to torture other males by letting them know that they are fundamentally unable to get her, no matter how superior they become. It is the most natural extension imaginable that some females become cult leaders who can apparently do no wrong. Even if they stalk and harass men who they believe to have autism or are emotionally vulnerable in some way (because they think those are the easiest people to make commit suicide) their followers will justify the behavior.
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https://x.com/sultanqaboosuni/status/1848585510626754606 This is her Obituary. It's strange to see people talk about her on instagram and wondering if she committed suicide or not, and whether or not she would go to heaven. It's unfortunate that she was born in such a country, she had a truly beautiful mind, a very rare kind of mind. Which is especially surprising given where she was born and raised. Her family does not know about the reasons and I feel like it is not my place to tell them. Yes, I have been thinking about this, wondering if death is real or not.
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I haven’t had a close friend commit suicide. I’d probably just binge watch non duality talks if it happened. "nobody has ever lived, nobody has ever died" Maybe your mind is trying to understand and make sense of the suicide, which is seemingly impossible. Sorry for your loss.
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It is described in islam that God would compensate the shahid for sacrificing his life or his land. If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins, 70 wives and everlasting happiness. Why is that ? Promises pussy in the hearafter seems twisted and uncomfortable for me . Since September 11, news stories have repeated the story of suicide bombers and their heavenly rewards, and equally Muslim scholars and Western apologists of Islam have repeated that suicide is forbidden in Islam. Suicide (qatlu nafsi-hi) is not referred to in the Koran but is indeed forbidden in the Traditions (Hadith in Arabic), which are the collected sayings and doings attributed to the Prophet and traced back to him through a series of putatively trustworthy witnesses. They include what was done in his presence that he did not forbid, and even the authoritative sayings and doings of his companions. Can someone explain to me the true version of islam ? @itachi uchiha Tagging you here since you have a good Islamic background.
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Due to toxic and abusive family. A toxic sibling and a highly toxic & abusive man whom I call "father". 〰️〰️〰️〰️ I am anticipating a nasty situation which I'll really hate. It will happen after few hours and I want to kill myself before that. 〰️〰️〰️〰️ I'm suicidal due to day to day challenges. (shouting, criticising, controlling, rudeness, family toxicity, abuse, headache situations, hassles,.... when forced to do something I hate, controlled by family what to do, where to go...(No autonomy) My so-called family makes me a slave. Sometimes I want to run away but it's as dangerous as suicide. I often say to myself "if this keeps going, I can't live, I don't want to live". When I anticipate a nasty or headache situation, I start thinking that I should kill myself before that situation arises. Because there'll be 1000s of such situations in my lifetime. I had reached very close to killing myself in the past....a few times. When I am on the verge of killing myself, I feel something extremely wrong and drastic is gonna happen, it feels as if this whole reality is gonna collapse. So I hold myself back. (I am not afraid of consuming poison, I am just afraid of making a big mistake, I doubt myself.). 〰️〰️〰️ I have strong desires, commitments and ambitions in life which I don't wanna lose. But at the same time I have a strong desire to escape this suffering. I am desperate. 〰️〰️〰️ I am so angry that I want to murder my abusers but I can't do this because I would be imprisoned for life after that, which would be much worse than suicide. Their toxicity is intolerable. What I am gonna lose when I commit suicide? Will I come back in this human form after death? Is it wrong to commit suicide when your life sucks and it will be so for many many years...? 〰️〰️〰️〰️ Edit : If I choose to live, I will get both pain and pleasure in equal amounts in overall life. Or if I die, I will get nothing. It doesn't matter whether I live or die. So I am in extreme dilemma what should I choose. Sometimes pain overwhelms me , other times the pleasure and beauty of life overwhelm me.
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- Oct 7 had a smaller ratio of civilian to combatant deaths than the IDFs own claimed ratio for the war in Gaza, so now are you ok with Palestinians bombing Tel Aviv? - In Qibya Ariel Sharon directly ordered the killing of dozens of civilians for no military purpose, so would you have supported Palestinians sending a suicide bomber after him even when he’s in a crowd of Israeli civilians at any point after that?
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I get it. Thank you. But they would be devastated by the grief. They are not very strong emotionally. The turmoil in my family would be so much....I can't write. But it's better than suicide. So your advice is good.
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I simply cannot resist posting this when there is an active coffee thread up: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/ «Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent» https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html «Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»
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I wanna escape. But there're some good people too in my family. This is a moral dilemma. I don't want to leave them in grief. People commit suicide because they are selfish. Everyone is. Even the ones who seem selfless. @Jayson G But running away is always better than committing suicide.
