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That's cool. You seem to have a curious mind and I appreciate your thoughts. Are you planning on doing an Aya ceremony? If so, I don't mean to scare you with the terror stuff. My first ceremony was absolute bliss. I was so connected to everyone in the temple. When it came time for surrender, the choice was my old egoic mindset or absolute beauty, love and harmony. I was like "Huh? This is it? The big surrender? Heck yea, I'll surrender!!! Helloooooo bliss!!". At one point, I walked outside and looked over the moonlit Peruvian mountains as ethereal music flowed around the temple. The beauty, love and joy was indescribable. I was in a magical land. I thought "How have I missed this beauty my whole life". Part of my difficulty the second ceremony was that I wanted to steer it back to blissville. It doesn't work that way. Mother Aya does her thing. Before the second ceremony, I was feeling a bit cocky. I made it through my first ceremony without a scratch and was actually giving first-timers advice. Then I was humbled big time.

@Amanaki so, for the past few years you have been living in bliss and ecstasy without a moment of interruption by negative emotions? Really?

@Leo Gura / anyone else can you confirm if i had an enlightenment experience? (dropping of the self) something you have said just clicked for me... that nothing changes but there's an extremely radical shift in perception on enlightenment and this can be seen as absolute bliss or absolute hell for me it was absolute hell... this was prior to me knowing anything about spirtuliaty / ego death / enlightenment... i was just a regular guy... now i did not get the "there is no me" but everything in my room, including myself in the mirror all became WTF. normal life objects such as my perfume, a glass of water, my own "ears", "nose" anything i looked at... i would have to rememebr what we normally call it and then question/wonder... WTF is this.. this was after a mild synthetic weed doseage... i rememeber saying to myself "please god, please let this be okay again, let everything be normal again this lasted about 20-30 mins... and then i slept praying to God when i wake up everything will be normal again.. (i thought i had gotten too high... but there was a part of me which was saying... HOW CAN I UNSEE THIS!? ) thank goddness for homeostatic i woke up "normal" but still rememrbered what i had seen my question is.. did i see the terryfying side of enlightement? is that why i did not get the no-self? leo has said, enlightement both shocks you and makes you extremely blissfull.. but either / or can happen as well.. so was this an enligthenment experinece for me? seeing the ox? seeing all without meaning? or does it go much much deeper? i still had a sense of being in my room and all... maybe that was too broad to question... but i did question every single thing about myself, how we live. my job.. everything was WTF i saw us/me as what we are... called us "mammals" it was literally like.. i am this animal who is wearing these clothes n shit.. and it was all of a sudden. one moment i was chillin being high n about to watch a movie on laptop and then next moment all the meaning of normal day stuff went away i have previously asked about this experieince of mine on the forum, but i thought it was a spontanoues dark night of the soul... but maybe this was seeing of the ox. but again.. i call it an experience.. and enligthement is usually supposed to be a "non-experieince" just wanna know what that was.. enligtenment expereiince but the shocking side of it (as i was unaware of this part of our existence at the time, did not know what to do except ask God for help)...

State of Bliss does not mean Enlightenment , it is state you can get when you are at peace with everything that happens around you .

Enlightenment is bliss in it self. If you searching for a spiritual awakening and think of enlightenment, why would you still then keep living your old life? Enlightenment is the result of the spiritual path it is not an object or thing it is the culmination of the truth being brought forward in the cultivation of mind and body. Earthly needs will no longer be of interests,

Yes. That's my question. Where does the contents come from and why? Brahman is existence-consciousness-bliss and hindu scholars and scriptures are extremely convincing in what they are claiming. But i can't abide in it as long there is no real explanation why all this is. "Brahman makes all this to know himself" or "this is a game" won't fit to those deep philosophical explanations of prasthanatrayi.

I have a question. How do you know this or make this claim? Do you see that in order to make any claim whatsoever, there has to be a 'knowing' of it. Or else you're just spreading gibberish. This knowing itself is Brahman/Buddha mind/infinite that no space, time, object can bound and which alone exists. Actually it's factually wrong to say Brahman exists, is conscious, is blissful. Brahman is existence itself, consciousness/knowing itself, bliss itself. That is not Advaita Vedanta. That is pretty much all religious philosophy. This is just a fancy way of saying that ''God created the Universe'. If you say that 'something' appears in Consciousness, then how will you explain that something? Advaita Vedanta says that Brahman itself 'appears' as the multifarious subjects (all sentient creatures) and Objects (The common, physical universe). But none of it can ever stain or bind Brahman. There is nothing else other than Brahman. And you mention that Atman is the soul. But that is not the case. The soul is called Jeeva. Jeeva is the person we take ourselves to be with all our conditioning. With the death of the body, Jeeva does not die. It keeps on moving from body to body until it's karma gets burnt and thus get liberated. But the whole purpose of Spiritual paths is to directly realize that Jeeva is ultimately non-existent and it never existed. Atman was wrongly identified with Jeeva by imagining itself as Jeeva(like a dream). Once this realization dawns(Enlightenment), the Jeeva nature vanishes once and for all and the equation becomes like this, Atman=Brahman There were never 2 things(atman and brahman) in the first place.

Hello everyone, Whilst blissed out on LSD and feeling slightly sexually aroused my spine started shaking, I felt a rush of pleasure and a movement of energy throughout the spine. I couldn't sit still and was very alarmed. As the trip came to an end, I felt an amazing bliss of connectivity and feelings of total and complete oneness to a degree that I had never experienced on previous trips. I felt the light within me was renewed and it was beautiful and semi-enlightening. This was about 6 months ago. While my entire life I have generally been a very emotionally detached person with little sense of self just from my introverted personality alone, I felt a renewed disconnect from the self after that day and I made an agreement with my inner light to always follow it's guidance. The next day I did some research and realized this was in fact the start of a Kundalini awakening. It was beautiful. It was then that I quit my job and began traveling to new countries, did some vispasana retreats, and while my old ego self is always present while interacting with people, I am almost constantly aware that it is just a mask I am wearing behind a true self. My question is, what comes next? Is there a fuller form of enlightenment I have not yet come to realize? I feel calm, grounded, extremely at ease everyday although I have no idea where my life will take me in the next 6 months. I am detached from all emotions but I still find that there is a desire for more truth, a bigger enlightenment, and a push to get this pent up energy out into it's full form. Is this just a never ending trip down the rabbit hole? Or is Kundalini just one stage in a bigger more complete enlightenment?

So many stupid comments. Meditation leads to pure awareness which leads to self realization = the end of suffering and living in peace and bliss all eternity. Seriously, do the people of this forum really don't have understanding what it is to realize one's true nature? I advice to read the ancient text than forming your own opinion what liberation is and isn't.

@Joseph Maynor it’s a permanate realise of energy that starts to circulate, heal and rewire different chakras in your body. Brings up a lot of repressed emotions/traumas which causes depression and aniexty but can also cause periods of bliss. The process can go on for several years. This is from personal experience and from hearing enlightened people talk about. For example, Saduguru, Adyshanti, Craig Holiday and Gopi Krishna all went through this process.

For me, the reason that there are more people than ever on the path to enlightenment is the internet. Its a shift in power. Before, everything said was in a way controlled by society. You could say, the king had the final saying. You needed money to print a book. With the internet, everyone can speak. Its truly a bliss. I started my way on the internet as a 12-13 year old kid. And when I use it, I cant describe the joy my brain has. The fast response, looking everything up in a matter of seconds. It took some time for me to use it in a healthy way. It can be very addicting and you can become unconscious if you are not careful. But my neurological wiring would be 100% different, if I wouldnt have been exposed to it. And I feel its in a good way. I think its bringing more peace than evil, and history so far has proven this. I would go so far and say its a catapult for civilization to move up the spiral. Technology in general. Its the reason we dont all have to work in the fields for 12 hours a day and can live a more comfortable life than the kings of the kings a few hundreds years ago. Not that it means much, love is the only thing that is important. But if you can live 30 years longer, you can also love 30 years longer, so there is that?

Enlightenment is bliss enlightenment means blowing out. what you experience when enightenment happens is pure joy because you no longer clinging to earthly living. it is purly spiritual

@Amanaki ur 100%right I know what enlightment is I saw all leo videos but I just wanna know if I should just switch to self inquiry cause my goal is to be enlightened not to get some bliss

Dude my whole point is that there isn’t some mystical shmystical “energy”. Some, yeah sure you feel a connection but really, toss those ideas. He’s a totally ordinary person that still knows something extrodirnary. I’ve met some enlightened people and my favorite part about these people is that they operate outside of these fantastical norms that we think enlightened people operate as and in. There is no intentional disguise either. He got what he was looking for and now it’s life back in the market place. Business as usual and it will remain business as usual. Climb the mountain then descend in whatever fashion you choose. This whole oozing bliss stuff to be enlightened is literally just a fantasy. There’s a truth to it but enlightened people are never all going to fit a certain bill, because enlightenment also about living life authentically. Some choose to wear robes and start an ashram and that’s their holy divine life. Some choose to live as an “ordinary” lay person and that’s their divine life. Also I’m not saying he’s some master. I don’t know and I really have no interest because how the hell am I or anyone really going to know what he knows? It’s irrelevant and as he said “it’s not a big deal.” Granted he’s saying that after the fact so keep that in mind. Like anything else, it’s a big deal until you arrive and get it.

When you get an sensation anywhere in the body or in mind, make a mental note to you self, example " pain in forhead" then let it go After some time you do not need to make mental notes then you sit with no thoughts in mind, you become observer. In meditation you dont look for an answer the outcome of the meditation is the answer, ultimat bliss. But there is nothing in meditation only silent

If someone has very thoroughly dis-identified with ego, this question does not arise. The ego is the sense of 'doership.' No doership -- no question about what course of action to take for a someone. So if this question disturbs, the question arises: who asks this question? It is beyond space and time and form, beyond even existence and non-existence. Yes, it is not coming from anywhere in particular. Different. Yes, there is no particular sensation or feeling that corresponds, correct. No -- there is an end to the search. Something witnesses the very act of witnessing, something beyond the "I that witnesses." It is the recognition of our true nature as being, awareness, and bliss. Though for seekers it has to be viewed as something to be achieved, it is actually but a word for something that is already the case.

Can you define both the peace/bliss and suffering here? Is this peace and bliss a physical/mental/tactile sensation? Is physical pain=suffering?

How do you know he is liberated? If you truly think that, you have to ask him if he still suffers. if he answers there is only peace and bliss and no more suffering. then yes he is liberated.

LSD can be a stern teacher. Yet, it's tough Love. LSD can also be a comical teacher and a gentle teacher. I could write pages and pages about tripping into the most beautiful places imaginable. Deep connection with music and art. Overcome by love, bliss and joy. One time tripping, I met a Siberian husky with the most beautiful ice blue eyes. Her spirit was so gentle and loving. She saw my spirit and we sat and loved each other for eternity. I've learned how deeply love can go. I would recommend having lots of music handy. Perhaps a small speaker or headphones. I like fluid, ethereal music. I don't like anything with hard edges or aggressive while tripping.

I didn't say the Absolute was peace or bliss, if anything it's the complete opposite. It's love, pure unconditional love.

Are you sure Absolute is Love and Peace and Bliss, if you become with peace with everything, you will be at peace with everything, if you will become angry with everything, you will become angry with everything and will hate everything,

I've decided I want to start fresh onto a new journal since things have become very different for me - and my perspective has changed dramatically. Upon waking this morning I immediately felt 'bad' feelings in my body and I knew it was due to the thoughts of uncertainty and worry I still inevitably possessed. I closed my eyes with the intention to turn these negative thoughts into positive ones and to then feel better. It felt as though I was learning to ride a bike. At first, I'd only catch a few glimpses of good/peace and then finally, the good/peace grounded itself, stayed and I felt much better. That was the first time I was able to intentionally do that and in that way. Normally I would have to resort to other people or to positive audios or videos, resort to chasing pleasure to get a moment of feeling better or I would have to write down each limiting/negative belief and do the 7 step process to change it which still then didn't work nearly as well as this. It felt very empowering to be able to do that by myself and in that way. It was as if I knew and intentionally decided the way I wanted to think and feel. It's more productive, useful and being down and negative is just the opposite. I don't want to go into what has been happening with me the past few months whatever you want to call it "Dark night of the soul", "Transitioning from stage Orange to stage Green" or "Ego-backlash", it doesn't matter anymore and engaging in thinking of what it was, why etc is no longer my focus. I'm looking ahead now and with new lenses. I clearly see the situation I am in and the things that need to be handled and I'm good with that. First I must find a job and as soon as possible. It's all about being able to pay for my shelter and food. It's not that challenging as I have a lot of opportunities. I just need to be sure I can make money on time. It's certain I can make money but the deadlines are what I need to be mindful of. Resourcefulness comes into play here. Perhaps I need to be creative. This is all just short term. I feel a great sense of relief that I no longer have chains weighing myself down about climbing ladders, status, winning and accomplishment. Over these past months I had a brick hit me in the face basically and these things no longer interested me and so I have not been doing them well and therefore the money is not coming in. I ended up letting go of a lot of opportunities these past few months. I see these endeavours for what it is now and that gives me a great sense of relief. Like I said I have a lot of opportunities to make money still but these opportunities are not easy. It's business development and marketing and so I don't think I want to continue doing these things long term. Not because it's not easy, I'm very talented and there is a reason I get these opportunities, I've earned them through the years and through reputation, the thing is my soul, my mind and values no longer allow it. I will find something laid back and easy and fun but until then I must accept the situation I put myself in...or my Orange self has put myself in. Right now I have 4 social media accounts/companies to do work for, still have that fine dining restaurant for group parties and the other opportunities, I let go of. I told my partner for my startuplv.org project that I am moving the launch date from Oct 1 to Nov 1st due to personal circumstances and he said he understands. So that is off my back for at least a little while. It's still something I want to complete, it has a good cause. The most important thing to me is my life purpose project which I've only just mapped out. Right now with my circumstances, my immediate priority, however, is making money to cover shelter and food and making it sustainable, easy and not something that sucks the life, energy and creativity out of me. I know that everything will fall into place as it should. I know I am on the right track. That shift in mindset and priorities, what had set me into that deep depression has actually been a great blessing. I can see it now. I'm excited to see what is next and I am now keeping my eyes on the true prize. The rat race, societal norms and opinions that are not useful to me are no longer important to me. I feel a sense of freedom and a lightheartedness to me. I'm excited for what is next. I can't wait to feel a sense of passion when I wake up every morning, love, bliss, fulfilment and excitement.

Drop it, pursue the heart. And enlightened human being is 100% free of suffering, not only at minimum levels. Suffering is one sided practice of the body/mind. When the whole unites with the whole one discovers what is really beyond suffering, wich is growth and bliss.

Hey fellow actualizers, I would like to share with you my story with 5-MeO-DMT. I made a post previously talking about my experience with low dosages. In this post, I will describe the full encounter. Getting the substance I got this substance semi-legally about a month ago. I got it from a legal research chemical distributor. They will sell it to you provided you don't have the intention of using it on yourself or others. DMT is a scheduled 3 substance in Canada, which is not that high priority (Cannabis was scheduled 2 up until recently). Also, 5-MeO is not very known from the DMT family. RoA I've experimented with both snorting and plugging. Initially, I started with snorting, but I discovered that it wasn't the most effective for me. I didn't like the burning in my nose, I was losing substance, my nose became very dry, and I would have some dry blood in my nose afterward. Plugging, on the other hand, was very clean. The substance dissolves in water and you are able to absorb it much easier and faster with rectal administration. It is my opinion that plugging is the way to go (provided you get a small syringe ). Small Dose I've already made a lengthy post about my experiences on a small dose. To summarize it, at first, I felt a slight discomfort with tension in my head, small buzz, a little bit of shivering and nausea. These were minuscule and not very noticeable. Afterward came a very deep meditative state. This was meditation and contemplation on steroids. As if I took my most contemplative moments and multiplied them by 1000. My mind was firing with cognitive activity all over. Thoughts were cycling. Not just thoughts but more like "Aha" moments, like understanding after understanding and so on. Insights were everywhere and all sensation became very potent. I've experienced moments of deep love and connection, omnipresence, insights about awareness and the present moment. After those peeks I came to a state of bliss and peacefulness. Overall it was great, the experiences went by after about 30 min I was back to baseline. I was still present as my Ego throughout the experiences. Insight: Experience is the key. There is a whole world out there far beyond what mind can image and what we can put into words. Thinking/Language/Communication is also a type of experience, but only one out of an infinite sea of experiences and perceptions - don't give it too much weight. Medium Dose This trip was very very very different - 540 degrees different. I still can't fathom how you can get such a different experience from the same substance. This time it was very physical and can be summarized as hell, torture and slow death. All those discomforts that normally come up before the peak. Well, they got amplified to an unbearable degree. I felt an extreme amount of body discomfort. I wanted to escape to run away, to surrender. It wasn't a pain in a sense of somebody is cutting you with a knife. It wasn't fear either, as you can imagine standing on the edge of a building. It was this nasty nasty feeling of internal discomfort. Like when you're super anxious about something. Maybe loosely like when you wear an uncomfortable t-shirt, or its too hot, or something bothers and you want to jump out of your skin. You feel frustrated/angry/anxious at the same moment. It was a type of Ego-discomfort taken to the extreme of what's possible. I felt nauseous and wanted to puke very badly. My body was shaking like crazy. Not shaking from cold, but shaking from like a wound in a stomach. I felt like dying, like I couldn't take it anymore. I was trying to surrender to it, but I couldn't. I was trying to meta surrender - surrender to the fact that I couldn't surrender, but that didn't work either. I was fucked. Honestly, if you think you're a tough guy? I dare you to go through this. Some of the thoughts going through my head: "Why would you do this to yourself?" "Did I just overdosed and killed myself?" "I want this to pass!" "It's just a feeling, its just a feeling" That was pretty much the whole experience. It lasted for about 30 min but man, it felt like an eternity! I was still present as my Ego throughout the experience though. Insight: This is what dying is like. Ego is everything about you. It's a very physical thing! emotions and thoughts are interlinked. Subconscious thoughts give rise to emotions which give rise to surface thoughts and provoke actions. I heard before that Ego is just a thought, but dammit it goes so deep. It controls everything about our body. It is our whole existence. It is very subtle until your survival is threatened. I have huge respect for people who took 5-MeO-DMT Heavy Dose Preface Well needless to say that my previous trip freaked the shit out of me. I knew I came close, but not close enough to fall into the abyss. So I was musting up the courage. I knew that to go all the way I needed to die. My mind was coming up with excuses of not doing it. Suddenly things I was forcing myself to do became not so difficult just to avoid this experience (nice try mind). From the previous trip, I knew that dying feels very real at that moment. There is no difference between that and "actual" death. It's funny but to actually make passing over easier, I wrote a final letter/suicide note to my loved ones. I typed it up, printed it and left it on my desk before the trip. This might sound too extreme, and I didn't think I was actually going to die. I thought I will come out of it, and the whole thing will look silly. But then again, at the back of my mind, I thought that you never know. Plus I would want somebody to leave me a comforting letter before they go. I got ready, did an hour of meditation, which put me in a very relaxing state. Experience This substance keeps surprising me. It was very unexpected. I can't put it into words. It's just too much. The transition from regular consciousness was super clean. When the discomfort started to show up. I just laid on the bed, closed my eye and it passed away (or my sense of self passed away). I think the preparation and my state of surrender really helped. Either way, what happened cannot be even close to thoughts or words. It was deeper than time, space, ideas or my own self. I was the raw reality itself, it was impossible. It was there, but nobody was looking at it. Perceptions were there but nobody was there to perceive it. It's a f*cking paradox. You would think perceptions need a perceiver. My body was extremely loose. It collapsed and I was far far far gone. The body was doing things by itself. I didn't even know if I was breathing. Some sensations were there, but it was sort of neutral. I can't even say neutral because that's putting it inside criteria. Really language is incapable of describing this. Words are kind of like post signs to experience. But it wasn't even an experience, because there was nobody to experience it. It was incredible. But even to say that is giving it a judgment. It wasn't good or bad. It transcended all limits and criteria because there was nobody there to give any human judgment. Kind of like Earth was prior to humans. My body could die or live it didn't matter. It was waaaaaayyy beyond my existence. The mind would occasionally talk, but it appeared sort of in the background like an echo. All It could say was - thing, no thing. It went on like this "existence, no existence" "love, no love" "life, no life" "enlightenment, no enlightenment" and so on about everything. There was no difference between anything. I was not present as my Ego throughout the experiences. I lied on my bed for 2 hours after this experience in a state of no-self. I could say that it was bliss. But even that is not true, because bliss implies an opposite to be true as a reference. There was no reference in this experience. Then there was a feeling in my belly. I could label it as me getting hungry, but there was no reason to act on it. No reason to act on anything for that matter. Eventually, the intensity was slowly coming down and I convinced myself to get up. Insight: What I was describing is only what the mind can come up with. What actually happened transcended all of that. What happened is what is left when everything goes out the window. Every identification crumbled. There is only this something - It is nothing, everything, energy, dark matter, empty space, Tao, awareness, God, aliens, simulation whatever you say about it. It is so much bigger than you, you are not even on its radar. There is no free will, nor somebody to not have free will. As an Ego, I am a puppet empty inside. When I die ... I will go back to the source.

@Space Spoken like a true scientist. Calmness is a precursor to love, bliss and unconditional love. I also have a calming aura from what I've had reflected back to me in relationship. So it could be either, or none. If you like, watch it a few times in a row and see if the calmness opens up to more, I may have made the video to short, so in the future I'll do maybe 10 mins for better effect. @luckieluuke Calmness for some is just what they need, it can also be a precursor to opening up to love, bliss, unconditional love. If you like, watch it a few times in a row and see if the calmness opens up to more, I may have made the video to short, so in the future I'll do maybe 10 mins for better effect.