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@okulele I’m currently working towards it. I feel far more bliss than I did just two months ago. I’m confident I’ll make it to constant bliss by a year or two. If you’re thinking about getting to constant bliss through meditation, you can forget about it. You won’t get it.

Thank you all for your responses. It's really interesting to hear your experiences, although I underatand we can never convey to each other what we exactly mean. I mostly created this topic to remind everyone that there could always be more to your awakening than where you are at. (I was inspired by Jan Essman's interview on BATGAP where he talks about very physical bliss he is experiencing all the time and where he states how easy it is to get stuck at experiencing pure peace and thinking that's it.)

Like taking off a costume you didn’t know you were wearing, the costume is not blissful, the bliss was wearing the costume.

Bliss/joy/peace are one experience for me. From one point of view, it is calmness/stillness. The emotional pond is still, without anger/fear/guilt/shame, etc. From another point of view, the peace is blissful. It is a feeling of being completely dead inside, like nothing would ever move me. It is a pleasant feeling! I do feel emotions, but because the pond is mostly still, I can easily identify and direct them. They are not negative, but neutral. This redirection from, lets say, anger to negative thoughts is conditioned into movement that reinterprets the experience into something more positive. There is a tension during aggravating moments, but this tension is internally resolved through equalization in thoughts. Feelings are being let go, automatically.

The mind is a movement of wanting. Bliss is found where wanting is not. Try to become aware of the fact that you are resisting bliss constantly through the mind’s desires. Feel what happens when you state: “I want absolutely nothing.” Really feel it out. Suddenly a peace arises. That peace can turn into bliss when all resistance to it collapses. As it turns out, when you stop wanting anything, you are open to absolutely everything. That is the paradox. And that is the space from which a human being can truly be authentic. Now every move you make comes from a place of fulfillment. Or bliss. And being blissful isn’t even a big deal. It’s not like this insane constant feeling of ecstasy, (though it can be) It simply means you don’t mind whatever experience you’re having. You can’t be more satisfied than absolutely satisfied. There’s no measurement for happiness anymore. I’m definetely not blissful all the time, but I can see what’s in the way of it very clearly, and that has now become my meditation. And what do I want from this meditation? Nothing at all.

Well, if you ask me, this "constant bliss"-thing isn't really what it seems to be to most people. Many report that after their enlightenment, or total release and/or surrender to put it in different words, they experience that state of total bliss which has a non-defined duration that is individual to everyone, but for some it may last weeks or even months. It is very rare and uncommon to hear that people are abiding in that state for years on end, because in the end, it is always safe to say that it will slowly become less and less pronounced and you will take it on as your default state, more or less - unless you totally dissolve in it and.... die (I don't know for sure, but I'm quite certain that it does have something to do with achieving a conscious death, but there's surely a lot more to it). IMO though, the bliss that is often mentioned over time actually just transitions into pure love and compassion which is the absolute source of the deepest bliss you could experience anyway.

As I listend to different enlightened people I see a pattern. Some seemed to have reached a state of profound peace and contentment, but other say that there is more and that if you dive deep enough, you can get to "out of this world bliss and love". My question is: Is there someone here who experiences constant bliss?

Ayahusaca Trip report : June 2018 I arrived in Lisbon, Portugal on a Wednesday and met up with my friend who has flown from Canada. We had lots of fun exploring the beautiful city of Lisbon and catching up. Next day, we rented a car and drove three hours to our retreat. We met with all the other super interesting people who were there for the ceremony. There was a total of 12 of us. I had an interview with one of our Shamans. She asked about myself and my intentions, as well as any previous experiences with any drugs or psychedelics and all the other important details. Around 9 pm, we all gathered around in a beautiful glass room called Spaceship for obvious reasons. We had our Purge ceremony. Basically, you drink a horrible Tobacco medicine, and after some time, you drink gallons of water, until you throw up. It is not pleasant, but after you are super clear and you have this amazing sensation. Bunch of us gathered in the backyard, and talked about ourselves and intentions and experiences. I made couple of lovely connections which i will never forget. Next day, we had a very healthy breakfast. No salt, no suger,.... We had an even simpler lunch at 1 pm. Around 3 pm, me, my friend and bunch of other people went to a beautiful beach near by, high above the cliffs. The beauty was mesmerising. I sat on top of the cliffs, and meditated and contemplated for a while. Once we got back to the retreat, I found another glass meditation room and just stayed there by myself, trying not to get tangled up with conversations with other people. Most people were doing the same thing. We were all preparing for our journey. Around 9 pm, everyone gathered in the Spaceship. The Shamans told us were to sit. The had paired people up for based on some sort of logic. The Shamans who are a couple, had a very interesting of singing their Icarus songs. They each sing a different song with a different beat. At first it was very confusing, but soon it made my brain do a funny thing. It would split my consciousness and brain activity in two. I got to love it by the end. After an hour of taking the medicine , I still couldn't really feel anything. People were already throwing up, so I though something must be wrong with me. I was getting frustrated and thought maybe i am not worthy. It was then when the Shamans called for anyone who wants a second cup. Almost everyone got up. I managed to go as well. This was quite surprising to me, since i had a very hard time last year. It seemed that my body and mind have become much more tolerant and stronger. Within minutes of having the second cup, the plant started talking to me. I started shaking and feeling pain all over my body. I felt an alien going through my veins. It was a horrible pain. I realised this must be how a heroin addict must feel like. And I learned compassion. The plant told me if i can't take it, I am allowed to through up. I told he/she I am ready, so Bring it on. Right away, a light burst out of my chest, and I saw a portal opening, and the alien entered my being. It took control. I started seeing a lot of visuals. Beauty, destruction, death, life, horror, pain, fear, love. Everything was visual and sensual. I was in bliss and pain at the same time. I asked her what is my purpose in life? He/she said why don't you become a Shaman? And i said no way. Im not strong enough. And she said fine, then i'll give you an easier purpose. Just draw me. Just paint me. Show people my beauty, and that will alone will bring light. And he/she showed me all her incredible beauty ( which i m already starting to forget) . She also told me that she is not only light, but the opposite as well. And all this dark forces appeared. So powerful and masculine. I was terrified. But she said accept. So i did. There is beauty in horror. He/She has no preference, and so I should learn not to have a preference either. And then I here the Shaman calling my name. I walked in front of him, and my friend was called by the female Shaman. Then they Sang a song specific to each of us at the same time. I was blown away. Sharing this experience with my friend is priceless. To be continued ...

I think what Osho is trying to say is that try more diferent things. Just meditating wont get you far. For example in Oshos movie there is a part where he learns to play perfectly a flute and then drop it because the love/passion for music is blocking us to grow. @Viking You asked that is it possible for you to enter blissful state without preperation, ofc it is, by accident. Some people plan it. Both work! but consciously working on it saves you a life. Like you dont want to let accident to guide your life. So investigating your stage that you are in at this moment is super-important. Lets say its "bliss" it can be very state like and enjoyable, but its still a stage. You let insight guide you and not states. Alot of people make that mistake when they try hold on to that state of bliss for forever and not earn insights. Take your time on it. Let loose, take a adventour or make things okay again like they used to be with your fam. etc. just a little courage needed to get going. Every stage will give you exactly that, that this stage offers. Higher stage you are in then more it offers about yourself. Your whole life is a meditation. Every part of it can be meditated. Your being that runs automatically can become meditative. This means that your attention that is used to go into illusions automatically, will now become -> attention moving into reality automatically. That should slowly get into meditative actions and reprogramming from illusions that lead you to bigger understanding.

Today has been filled with many strong emotions that have been contained deep inside me. I felt hopeless, and sad, and frenzied. My practice is to focus on the love in my heart, the rising and falling of my chest through out the day, but these emotions far overcame the subtle feeling of love I had. I just couldn’t focus until I remembered a beautiful teaching I had learnt by Matt Kahn called Loving whatever arises. As soon as I started complimenting and blessing my wounded heart the emotions became less intense allowing me to again focus on my chest. I’ve learnt that a synthesis between the two teaching of loving whatever arises and focusing on the spiritual heart is necessary when such emotions arise to calm myself down With my increased sensitivity I saw how technology had been effecting me. Just by taking a few hours off, those strong emotions would arise again. It showed me how dependent I was on circumstances for happiness, but my question is, how come I can’t be happy under any circumstance? Why can’t I feel bliss or peace in every moment? These questions have me a deeper appreciation of the true power of the subconscious mind. While my soul is unconditionally loving, my subconscious mind was hurt in the past by people and so created patterns that when triggered caused these strong emotions and self-defeating thoughts to arise. I’m very conscious of this now. That’s why loving whatever arises has so much power in rewiring the subconscious mind in oneness, and to release all beleifs in separation. The same effect, but even deeper and subtler is found by focusing on my chest, it’s most effective however when I’m calm. It makes me fall asleep, making hours of meditation turn into hours of napping ? I trust that love will purify all of my subconscious beliefs that dominate my life. I trust that everything is perfect, and that everything will work out, and that I am worthy of more love not less, now and forever. The most important practice is to bring more love into every moment. Every second is another opportunity to anchor love ❤️

You know my story bro! I had to LEARN how to judge again! Can you imagine what a hell that was? When you see how incredible Beautiful and perfect every being is. And you must find a way to look upon Those in a critical way again, just as I Did many years ago. I tell you, that is a Journey of hell raised to the power of hell. Not only that, This is how twisted it is, please try to follow me, and sorry for my broken english btw, I know it's a drag to read. Some of it you are familiar with already, but I try to explain it better. Anyway, imagine you have a perspective of life/reality in such a way that that everything is beautiful, in a way that reality and everything in it contains so much beauty your heart can almost not handle it. You see how every being is so perfectly complete, a formation of Love. And you know that Everyone feels and experience the same. But you start to find out that it only happens when you are together with others. Somehow you have the psycic power to let others to see the world as you do when you interact. You shake them psycologically in an infinite way. You become a figure of light where everybody notice your presence and are madly drawn to it. You notice that there is something really special about your perspective, that it is really rare, infact you are the only one having it, with the power to share it when in interactions. However, there is another perspective, the Collective consciousness perspective let's say. You know there is that other perspective, But you have no clue what it's all about, you have since long forgot. You only know that it's something dark, at least darker. But you can't get a taste of that perspective, because you elevate others to your perspective. And you know you can't really move in society, other Then casual interactions with people. Because, if you go to a workplace let's say, you will elevate the whole workplace to your level of awareness, at the same time all the structures of that workplace are build upon and sustain upon structures of This other perspective. You see how you run into a syntax error? Finally you understand that the world is not build around your perspective at all, even though everything you come in contact with transforms into your consciousness. But again, you can never let your perspective become a big movement because of This syntax error since the world spins around This other perspective. Ok, so now you try to transcend This state of love, bliss, perfect understanding to adopt to that common perspective of others. You really have to create anger, fear, hate out of thin air constantly for years. Those two perspectives are really two completely different realms. You can't allowed yourself any happiness. Let's refer to Those states or perspectives as absolute and relative perspectives. You transcend the absolute to get back to relative again. Let's say This absolute perspective, the perspective of Love, beauty understanding, truth was a deluded state, just for the sake of reasoning. And that the relative perspective that others have(when they are not affected by your presence) we suggest that it is the sober one, the real true perspective. So you Cure a mania one Could say. You go from a deluded state of heaven to a true state of "hell". Now that is ofcourse difficult, years of literary hell on the Journey back to hell, in order to come back to ordinary relative perspective. But This is not the case. That's why I Said the Journey back is not only hell, But hell raised to the power of hell! Because you don't leave a deluded state of heaven to travel to a true state of hell. It's the other way around. You travel back from the true state of heaven to a deluded state of hell, and you know you must do it. Because This world doesn't spin around that heavenly perspective/consciousness. somehow the world has to get rid of you otherwise. But it's not really accurate to put it like that, it's more at stake, not just your life. MUCH MORE. I remember one time when I was in between Those states, my Brother was visiting me, and since he is my brother and since I was on my Journey back, he wasn't affected to that state of awareness that still had residues in me. And I remember he Said something judgemental about a person, nothing special, he just Said someone was a bit wierd. And I remember what a chock that was. It was impossible to comprehend, I thought he was joking. Again, a syntax error happened in me. How can one judge another, it's impossible, Everyone is perfect! That was First time I met This relative perspective again face to face. @tsuki You know you were the First one I told, only you and faceless know my story, hehe faceless, he couldn't care less, Love him for that, just as much as I Love you Listening. ? For some reason I couldn't have telled anyone earlier, all the residues had to leave, otherwise I don't know what would have happened, there is so much power and responsibility to that state of awareness I had. Maybe the universe would have imploded or something just by mention it, now it's just a Buch of words. Also, now, when I find myself in the relative realm again. I Could see how infinitely naive I was. I mean really infinite naive. Isn't it ironic? You are naive when you know the truth But don't know how to be deluded is a certain way. You don't know how the world looks like from one eye when you have two eyes. You must find a way to carve out one eye so to speak to be able to function in society of one eyed humans. The whole of language is more or less a one eye phenomenon, if you get the metaphor. I was infinitely naive because I saw that Everyone was perfect, beautiful. I saw who they truly were. But they themselves didn't know who they truly were. And I didn't know that, because it was the most obvious thing in the world to see who others as Well as myself was. And they only get glimps of that in my presence. It was First after I start my Journey back when people didn't lose their deluded self and tasted their true self in my presence any longer that I really saw face to face how they didn't know themselves. And now I am one of them.. What to say? Shit happens, hey. It's a little bit Sad though that my life mission didn't work out. It just started with a desire dig deep into leadership and it put me on the greatest Journey ever, it was personal development at its best not knowing I Did exactly that. Guided by my intuition for years, it was crazy.

Non-dualism is a belief untill you experience it, so any thoughts about it just sits superficially on top of your feeling of emptiness. True spirituality is not just about love and kindness and all the positive, it's about facing EVERYTHING head on. Admit that the feeling is there, and allow it to be there. Ground yourself in things that you like, take a walk outside. I literally beat my depression by taking long sad lone walks. During one of those walks I just realized that i choose to identify with a feeling, that comes and goes. You too can realize that your feelings and inner commentary of your feelings come and go, and you can choose to identify with them or not. Im not suggesting more mindfulness, more like acceptance and cobtemplation. We all want to face and know the bliss because its easy and pleasant. The hard and painfull is there so that you can know the good and the blissfull. "Im not mature enough" is a thought. You dont have to become anything to recognize it as such. Good luck!

I'm on the first day of a urine fast today. I am excited to remove the deepest toxins stored in my toxins. I want to reset my metabolism so that I can maintain my low calorie diet without those emotional cravings throughout the day. I learnt today that food need not be "raw" or solely fruit as found in the extensive sciences of Chinese medicine and Ayurveda, that actually maintaining a balanced diet of whatever is in season is more important for wellbeing. Fruit overtime when not in the tropical regions can cause imbalances for some organs in the body which need hot food to function at their best, the carbohydrates in fruit also can cause candida, and other unhealthy bacteria to grow. It's certainly interesting, although it does confuse me a lot, when I also have evidence that fruit is what makes the brain function optimally, and how it is the highest vibrational food to consume. And to integrate this with urine therapy too, how the urine is the highest vibrational food I know of (save for pure love, and sunshine) would be helpful in developing this understanding. Although, my diet currently has been highly panic, the physical aspect is becoming less and less necessary as I surrender into the love of my soul, especially after this fast. I also want to experiment with the Ketogenic diet versus the carbohydrate based fruitarian diet to see which works best. In either case, the wisdom of the body is the best teacher to maintain the ideal balance I will go over 7 days for as long as my body tells me. I am very curious about the high states of consciousness that may happen which as described by John St Julian feels similar to tripping. I haven't really had huge experiences before, just the usual feeling bigger than my body in meditation, and the feeling of being one on a more superficial level so I just would love to see what a true enlightenment experience is. I'll meditate for most of the day as well upon the rising and falling of my chest, to connect more with my soul of pure divine love. I intend to realise myself as this love on the deepest level possible, to accelerate my spiritual journey into the infinite, harmonious state of bliss; of eternal natural meditative awareness. In this time I will not be actively exploring more concepts because it gets me back into the conscious ego mind, triggering many subconscious thoughts and emotions too. I am grateful to have this time to go deep into myself. I want to know myself as divinity, and I trust that by focusing on my heart more than the stories that arise in my mind, that this realisation will happen. The stories are grounded in the conditioning of the subconscious mind, rooted in the groundlessness of separation. I choose to focus on eternal love in every moment instead, cause I trust that will naturally release all beliefs in separation, and allow my soul to express itself through me perfectly instead of in fragments. We all are a gentle and loving soul having a human experience, to evolve ourselves by finding our true nature, against all of this separation, as the oneness. And so by focusing on the core of my oneness in my spiritual heart, in every moment this is my silent vote for love. When rooted in the heart I also trust, and know, that following your highest excitement is always happening, for the soul is fully expressing itself, the programming and fear no longer stops the soul from this. This is why I choose to spend up to 6 months in deep meditation, because of the life of love, synchronicity and excitement that I will create for the next 100 or 200 years (and I also love meditating, I wouldn't force it if I didn't). After these months there will be no question of what I want to do, for I will be the soul incarnate. I wish you all love in discovering who you truly are! This is all of our life purpose on Earth, to realise this one simple Truth, that we are truly one, like it was always meant to be. There is lots of beliefs in separation in my mind, which has left me to embrace my spiritual heart as the ultimate purifier of this "mess". It is there I will rest, and embrace all of life just as it is. As a side note, I will be off the internet for a bit, I'm doing a technology fast as well to help me focus. Love is greater than knowledge. I will give my life to it, and dissolve into the love forever. I see the possibilities there, and I'm ready for it

Some meditations just humble you. The ability to surrender your ego, to be humble in the face of truth is priceless. Life is beautiful when you are aware of your place in it. You are not the centre, you are a just a piece. It's ok, accept it. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. thats the basis for doubt. Because all knowing is founded on the belief that knowledge exists. So i guess when you are confronted with the experience of doubt, just accept it and see where to go from there. These nights are rare. Full of love and acceptance, there's still a hint of fear but whatever it's just my ego projecting. i love life and all it's bliss and misery. the name of this diary still bothers me, i regret putting fuck in it because i don't want people to think poorly of me. i'll try to let it go but really i don't like it. goodnight. love u zel

Matey, this is just your fantasy coming through. Things you have read from spiritual teachers who want you to believe they live a life of absolute 24/7 bliss . Watch closer your spiritual teachers. Most of them you know are facing the public and are watching their behaviour. How do you know what happens behind closed doors? This is reality.

@Arkandeus Why wouldn't there be value in basking in fear and resistance? Until you are fully enlightened, Truth =/= Bliss. Until then, your ignorance is veiled from you by the very things you are refusing to experience. Feel free to follow your bliss. Ultimately, that will go full circle and you will seek to face resistance because that will make you experience bliss deeper and more often when you realize how not surrendering makes you suffer more, not less.

@Revolutionary Think wow, I've known that on an intellectual level for a while now. but it was shown to me in a very 'visceral', 'bodily' way through MDMA. that substance connected me to my emotions that deeply, that my mind just rested in complete silence. it was utter bliss. no monkey, only love, harmony and peace. the day after the mind slowly crept back. and it demonstrated me very directly how thoughts literally construct all problems. there are no problems, the mind projects them onto reality. entirely self created. such a humbling experience..

I don't want death my 5-MeO, I want to experience bliss. Given that ego-death thru 5-MeO can be horrendously painful and extreme, what would you say is an essential prep to prevent the slaughter. Would AL- LAD, which you had suggested as a substitute for newbies, be hard on one too?

For me, I cannot be at peace If I have worries about my future, they are root in the subconscius, and even if you are happy in the present they dont allow to experiment full bliss because they are like a background energy drainer.

I worked in an office with import and export overseas. It was a good job and I had great contact with many big companies. I knew every chain in the company but after 6-7 years a shift happend. One day I woke up in my bed and the only thing I was thinking was ”I dont want to work. No way! I see no point in doing stupid things with my life” I guess meditation, questioning and the right timing made all this happen. I have one life and I want to do what I want do without compromising. You get the feeling Many. Not everyone was happy. A lot of people probobly thought I was crazy. I left friends and girlfriend and family members that didnt serve me. I left co-workers and I cut my self off from most things. This process started aprox 1 year before I quit. In fact, I was so sure that I didnt care if everyone hated me and I had to live on the streets. I could not care less because my bliss and inner peace is worth more than anything in world. And the culture in your country sucks man. Its so fake! No one likes other people. It looks so damn good on the outside but when you do some investigation you clearly see the house of cards.

If reality is infinite and non dual as Leo teaches, that means there are infinite realities where you are experiencing bliss, and infinite realities where you are experiencing hell, simultaneously. "You" being consciousness or god. Is this a fair trade off? Infinite hell for infinite heaven? From my understanding, it is not?. Id rathet not exist than be expericing hell 24/7. So the fact that reality exists is a scary and frightening thing rather than a good thing? ?Or am I missing something. Please share your insights. Namaste

When one moves with focussed attention (6th chakra) on the lower first 5 chakras, then reality is challenging. Is an eternal growth, ups and downs, challenges, depression and bliss. Just forcing by thought to impose into yourself a state of being, will make you feel maybe at ease and peace, but no growth and is boring. One will feel the routine and the automated life without excitement.

@The White Belt in live in my van and i mostly spend my time in areas of outstanding natural beauty . It's bliss internet signal is ropey and I have to go to the gym to shower. Apart from that it's incredible for meditation..i am on the verge of being a yogi

@White I’ve been doing it for three months. Due to working through so many worksheets, these days I live a significant part of my life being aware of the difference between my thoughts about the situation, and the situation itself. This creates a feeling of bliss on those occasions. About a fifth of the day, I live without any mental chatter. My chronic anxiety that I used to have just three months ago is gone. I have more energy. I sleep less (I waste less energy stressing out). Most importantly, I’m disidentifying from my body. That’s just my progress in three months. In the past I’ve done self inquiry for three full months, and Kriya yoga for another three and a half months. The results I’ve obtained from The Work have very clearly surpassed both techniques combined. If you want to see it working on other people:

@NoSelfSelf Great question, I don't know... It's my perspective on life, but I'm only one of 8 billon people on this earth. People, like me, don't have the answers, they are deep within your own being. Follow your heart, find your bliss! Wishing you all the best my friend with your journey! ?