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@Butters remember, suffering has nothing to do rationality but purely emotional. This is good. Your sense of concern is broadening beyond your clan. I actually am starting to feel more of this myself. I grew up in a hard nosed stage Orange atheist house where rationality mattered more. I never grew up with animals and I never understood the whole obsession some people have over their dogs and other pets... until we got a dog. Once we got a dog I understood and felt more pain if I saw or heard about other animals being abused and when I see owners drag their dogs and I feel for that animal. It was weird at first but now I understand. A few months ago I really wanted to take this a step further and actually open up to the suffering more by researching factory farming and that tore my heart out. This has really allowed me to move into Green and evolve out of this selfish concern for just myself and my own worldview of people are what matter and that we’re smarter. This sort of suffering, without all the moralism and ideological crusading that goes with it, I think is good. Orange people and even lots of people who pursue spirituality who never want to feel suffering again and also have trascended suffering don’t understand. It takes a real master to step down off that mountain high of realizing God to be willing to feel both the bliss that you are God and you are untouched and at the same time feel the pain and suffering of all beings. Whether they be people, animals, fish, trees, air, etc. a perfect example of this is Christ. So, yes I’m in that same boat.

Hello everyone, Whilst blissed out on LSD and feeling slightly sexually aroused my spine started shaking, I felt a rush of pleasure and a movement of energy throughout the spine. I couldn't sit still and was very alarmed. As the trip came to an end, I felt an amazing bliss of connectivity and feelings of total and complete oneness to a degree that I had never experienced on previous trips. I felt the light within me was renewed and it was beautiful and semi-enlightening. This was about 6 months ago. While my entire life I have generally been a very emotionally detached person with little sense of self just from my introverted personality alone, I felt a renewed disconnect from the self after that day and I made an agreement with my inner light to always follow it's guidance. The next day I did some research and realized this was in fact the start of a Kundalini awakening. It was beautiful. It was then that I quit my job and began traveling to new countries, did some vispasana retreats, and while my old ego self is always present while interacting with people, I am almost constantly aware that it is just a mask I am wearing behind a true self. My question is, what comes next? Is there a fuller form of enlightenment I have not yet come to realize? I feel calm, grounded, extremely at ease everyday although I have no idea where my life will take me in the next 6 months. I am detached from all emotions but I still find that there is a desire for more truth, a bigger enlightenment, and a push to get this pent up energy out into it's full form. Is this just a never ending trip down the rabbit hole? Or is Kundalini just one stage in a bigger more complete enlightenment?

@EternalForest At one point i was doing it daily for a long time, i believe this is when i was at one of my highest levels of awareness. Eventually everything becomes bliss The beginning is always a hell of a challenge though especially if you have a lot of baggage.

I don't know, I don't use that term. That which cannot be spoken about accurately If you have to ask, it's not consciousness knowing itself. Consciousness knowing itself does not result in knowledge you can put in philosophical sentences like that. That's the mind. Still, it might be a little glimpse -- the mind's way of translating That. I have my guidelines here. Biggest guideline is to discover and be honest about and pursue what you really want. Discovery happens through a combination of introspection, expression of your emotions in writing/drawing/etc., psychoanalytic/psychodynamic therapy, and action. Enlightenment experiences may or may not slow your mind down, depending on what other conditioning it has. That's why it's important to deal with other aspects of quieting your mind (e.g. psychological). Sure, it's true that the idea of something/someone being conscious is illusory. I use awareness & consciousness as the same thing, but some people use them to mean different things. I don't relate to what Esman says, but perhaps that's some kind of siddhi. What the sages mean by being aware in deep sleep and asleep in waking is that they no longer identify with the individual mind and its different states, but with the Consciousness that transcends those states. Yes, the unmanifest is fine, and in fact probably better than saying that it experiences unconsciousness. In deep sleep, Consciousness can be said to perceive or reflect the causal body (as opposed to the subtle or gross bodies), or pure ignorance, or any number of other theoretical/philosophical terms. Best not to take it too seriously, because actually there can't be said to be a deep sleep state, or really any state, in the final analysis. These are all illusory terms, said only for the sake of discussion. Ananda is simply the sense of total completeness. We know it in our daily experience as the happiness we get from fulfilling desires -- these are glimpses of the bliss of the Self contrasted with pain on either side of the experience. The actual bliss of the Self is not a contrasting experience like that kind of happiness. It is beyond dualities and thus beyond description. It is the subtlest experience -- akin to being absent. It is not a feeling or sensation in the body. It can and cannot be said to be "awareness of" the Absolute; the Absolute cannot be an object of knowledge. Still, yes, we say the Absolute knows itself by itself because there's no other way to talk. And yes, that bliss is part of that. I don't think it'd be helpful to answer this sort of question. Do you have a question that relates to your own search?

More question: Sages say that "bliss" or "happiness" or "peace" is our true nature. Sat, Cit, Ananda are said to be the three main "qualities", if one can use those terms. Sat and Cit are reconcilable, but why Ananda? Is this a feeling or a sensation felt by the body? Is it simple "knowledge" of the absolute - meaning awareness of it?

@winterknight Many sage talk about awareness in deep sleep (not lucid dreaming). Do you experience this? If so, what can you tell us about it? For example, Jan Esman describes it as "waking up in his sleep to bliss out for thirty minutes or so." What does this awareness entail? Is there any content to this awareness and if so are they sense-products? Additionally, you mentioned that in deep sleep, the Self is experiencing unconsciousness. I always preferred the term "unmanifest", as in the Self is experiencing the unmanifest in deep sleep. In your view, are the two terms interchangeable?

You can measure your spiritual enlightenment by how quiet your mind naturally is, and how open your heart feels. The heart is meant to always feel warm like a expanding bubble of bliss. When I did SDS or do nothing it didn’t awaken this, my consciousness stayed predominantly in my head where the ego identification is. Then I gave this up after a year of meditating and practiced Matt Kahn’s techniques to stay heart centered and love whatever arises. This lead to experiences of having no body, and feeling the heart blossom basically. Yet I knew there was more, and then I found other teachers that lead me to feeling the movement of air in my chest cavity which is where I’m at. All practices will ultimately lead back to the heart. It’s the only way to reach full enlightenment. Nearly all spiritual teachers have not reached this place, and still have an ego (one that talks and walks in a spiritual way). So I recommend you give up SDS, it isn’t direct. SDS has greatly increased your concentration levels so if you change your meditation to the rising and falling of the chest for 2 hours you would make massive progress. Let go of your emotions, and thoughts right now. Simply feel the breathing chest. The reason people find this challenging is because a doubt will arise about the technique or a fear; don’t listen to it, keep focusing on the breathe even if it says SDS is more effective. This is the most effective technique. It is the gateway to becoming one with your true self which always experiences a steady stream of bliss and love. Enlightenment and seeking begins and ends here. Don’t limit yourself, always stay in the breathing chest. It will reveal its magnificence very quickly. https://channelhigherself.com/blog/types-of-higher-self-meditation-practices/

As far as my own experience goes though nothing comes close to this. I love piano, but this must be my very favorite album ever. When I tripped once, I plugged in this album and I instantly felt perfect peace and stillness. Next thing I remember I regain consciousness on the LAST NOTE OF THE LAST SONG. I was gone for the whole album. Literally gone. My face was washed in tears of utter bliss in nothingness. Even remembering this brings up so many feelings.

This is pure bliss: And this is for sure one of my favorite albums ever:

I casted your name on my meditations and I'm sure that now your state of bliss is increased by the truth. May the healing of your insight last long

This... This is the peak of male power. Im gonna take on the beast of 6 months as the superior man takes on his depolarized potato. Im gonna ravish the world with neverending, evergrowing spring-nectar of holy hormonal bliss extracted by the means NoNut and the cultivation my alpha essence into awareness, creativity, wet attraction, and fuckin' nonduality. Let me present a short backstory for you all: I have been on this journey of NoFap for close to 2 years, my longest streak being 6 months which im now gonna recreate a year later with unmeasurable power gained from this hard journey in between. Only recently have I been gaining the benefits of my endless observations of where my life is going with this addiction, and only now I have gained a confidence like never before out of the sheer fact that I have learned something new every time I have relapsed, up until a week ago; I felt this sudden shift, that signaled that im capable of doing this. I quit video games and PMO cold turkey last week, and my positive motivations have provided me with unmeasurable confidence, aiding me to pulverize and absorb the last fiber of any hedonistic desires with the light of my awareness. Many goals have been set. This ain't gonna be an easy cookie to chew but I shall let the confidence in my goals carry me through! Im gonna read many books that will aid me in this journey, and I will be exposing myself through this journal as frequently as I have the time to be online. This challenge will be: Unconditional semen retention (within my power) No ejaculation, not even when having sex No watching porn, (Not exposing myself to anything sufficiently graphic to spawn arousal) No intentional/recreational fantasizing I will keep you guys updated through this journal, in @Shin's words: In this quote, Mr.Shin refers to accountability partners. With radical honesty, I will keep you guys updated along the way! Credits to @8Ball, @Sahil Pandit, @youngshinzen, @Shin, @Vitamine Water, @Marinus, @Jol356 , @alea @Leo Gura and all of you guys who are inspiring me and are keeping the holy practise of semen retention alive!

@Serotoninluv Cool. My plan is to start with 2cb low dosages, because it is one of the first psychedelics in the pyramid. One step at a time. I guess the benzos will give me peace of mind, too. Simple and good stuff @cetus56 It is somehow funny because a part from that single episode of breakdown, I don't see much shadow at all. I am sure there is a lot of shadow hidden, like in all of us. But deep down I'm truly cool. I would cry if I had the urge to, I would't hold it back. But I'm mostly filled with bliss, I have way more presence than the "average person" and I can see the beauty of it all. However, there is the 5% monster lurking around, I feel it @Leo Gura I am open to the bad trips. I am open to the power they have of facing the ego. I am aware that bad trips are mostly motivated by the ego screaming for survival, afraid that the house-of-cards illusion will be broken. Still, I can't say for granted that it is impossible for me to have an episode which will send my spiraling down to low consciousness. And people in insane asylums can't do self-actualization. I guess the chances of that happening to me are like 1%, but I just wanted to have the peace of mind that it was actually impossible before using. I would be ok with bad trips, if only it wasn't possible for one of them to end my consciousness path

That's awesome, recently i got my ass kicked with 4g of mushrooms + 66ug of LSD. At first was just pure bliss, i had my first no-self experience, kundalini active as hell, had a lot of direct experience of deep truths i only read about but at some point i started to feel body discomforts/pains (in my belly and lower back) which gave me anxiety, i saw my mood get a little negative, which led to negative thoughts on loop (i had lost any notion of time), the anxiety greatly increased to the point i had to call a friend to babysit me mid-trip lol But was by far the deepest shit i ever experienced before and i am kind of experienced with psychedelics. Next time i won't mix them both.

Well, there are two answers to that question. Less accurate: The Self, whose nature is being, consciousness, and bliss, which is beyond time and space and all pairs of opposites and dualities -- it alone is. More accurate: <silence>

@thehero You just want to experience happiness. That’s why you want to be loved and accepted by other people. Cherished, just the way you are. Firstly there is no human who deserves to be lived more than you. But often, this is not the reality because life is teaching you something that will ultimately lead to a deep seated feeling of happiness beyond anything a person can give you. It is making you suffer, getting people to avoid you, because life wants you to find the peace that is already within you that can be accessed right now. Right this second, your very nature is peaceful and blissful, the goal is to become aware of this infinite, radiant being of light that you are, and have been all this time. The only thing that veils this peace and bliss is your thoughts. Thoughts about how lonely I am. Thoughts about how I am not loved, how I feel this sad emotion, and yearn to be seen and heard by another. Let this whole structure go by making your Heart the best friend you never had or the fatherly you always wanted but which never could provide quite enough love. Here is the most practical solution for you. It is called the Ujjiya breathe and i recommend you do it for 5 minutes morning and night at first, making it longer when it feels right. What you do is sit in a comfortable position, relax all of your muscles and then lightly tighten the muscles at the bottom of your throat. Breathe, and you should here something similar to the sound of waves coming in and going out. Now while making you this sound focus on the rising and falling of your chest; the expansion of love and joy for life, and the return to peace and stillness. Focus on the chest no matter what thought arises or emotion for the given time while making that sound. This will begin to open your heart wide open, and silence your mind. Very soon your desire to be loved will naturally disappear as you see that you were the one you were looking for this whole time. Be very dedicated and let the out breathe flow out of its own accord. It will feel uncomfortable! Keep going! Namaste.

Could Leo give us a step by step process on how to switch '' dreams '' ? If this reality is only one set out of an infinite set of realities then how do i permanently switch dreams? I'd like to personally switch to an all-sugary dream where there's nothing but bliss, where work is not needed and where everyone is beautiful and there's no problem. Basically a heaven-like dream. A kind of dream that is simply too good to be true, where tears can't express how much love there is. A dream where i can summon a vampire boyfriend and life out my wildest desires How Leo?? 5-MeO only let's me see the absolute...

@Inliytened1 Yes, it can definitely do that. Had more than three from what I remember, each one very memorable. The best way of describing it is being hit by "disarming beauty". No matter how constricted your body or mind feels, when it hits, it makes you drop your guard like an armor just falling off a knight. At least that is how it feels to me. The bliss and ecstasy are implicit.

Once the illusion dispels suffering is faced in its final form A suffering that has no root in reality, a spiritual suffering, a resolving of all karma, a seeming depression, a pressure that seeps through everything, unloading its weight on your reality This is a heavy process, but only when one can see that suffering does not have its root in this reality, can he face it, and can she realize that bliss and happiness will not have its roots in this reality either, it will not be dependent of everything, meaning that you will be envelopped in bliss and happiness no matter where you go or are, no matter what happens Suffer no matter what happens, to ascend to being happy no matter what happens

Were you scared at all? I had such bliss/love/adrenaline while at the same time my ego was acting like it was in a plane that was crashing. I couldn't stop laughing at how big of a bitch my ego was after it was all over... Low key wondering what other people's experience after just smelling tracks/seeing the ox is like

A few weeks ago I did my usual daily meditation. It was 20 minutes long and the technique I used was do nothing. I did it in the evening and funny thing is, I was a bit tired so my awareness was kinda "cloudy". Therefore I couldn't really focus and I almost fell asleep (since then I know that evening is not good for me to meditate). Anyway, after ~10 minutes it hit me out of the blue. I woke up immediately, my awareness was perfectly clear and my breath quickened. It was pure euphoria/bliss. I was just staring at my cupboard and I felt genuinely happy. It lasted like ~5 minutes. Another important thing to notice is that it had a sort of sexual vibe to it. Can't really explain that any better. Do you guys have any idea what this experience might have been? Another thing that is weird for me is that particular session was pretty bad because of my tiredness and yet, something like this happened.

@Matt23 If your heart is seriously calling you to do it, then follow your bliss. But, start with a baby test dose. Do a 10 day solo meditation retreat and then evaluate how you feel. You don't want to jump into giant life decisions without testing the waters. You want to have a realistic idea of what you're getting yourself into. The reality of living alone in the woods for a year are probably way different than your mind's fantasy of such.

I actually have some more questions now 1. What are the benefits from further developing through the various degrees of enlightenment to society as a whole? 2. If it were an option, would you do this journey again by being reborn? Or would you never go back into the life that we live even after an eternity of bliss? 3. Does it make it difficult to teach people who suffer how not to suffer, when you aren't suffering? Is there an advantage to teaching that comes from being in the same position and delusion as others? 4. Is there a path that can benefit humanity and raise the consciousness of society as a whole more than enlightenment?

Thank you for sharing this. It really coincided at a good time. One where I make that commitment to die by giving up the parts for the whole for no particular reason. It's beyond all reason, the mind is cut from its roots. Nothing remains. “Within me there was a steady flow of undiluted bliss.” ~ Ramakrishna

@kieranperez You are not meant to know what you want right now in your life, otherwise you would know! Where you are at is perfect. Life is giving you one of the biggest lessons here, to be okay with having no idea what you want and to face all your fears surrounding that projected through the people you love, and your thoughts and emotions. One day you will know exactly what you want, and it won't be you who figures it out. It will be given to you as a random idea, or a strong impulse. So enjoy the experience of not knowing. Own it. Live it. All you can do is accept this, and start the journey of embracing your heart in each breathe you take. Whether you are in your heart or not you can't miss what you are destined to experience which may be a lifetime of having no drive, or maybe in a few years you will want to start a business. But until then, it is wise to remain in your Heart, where dependant on nothing you can feel the Unconditional Bliss that you truly are, that is not dependant on knowing or not knowing, or career. From that place, no question will arise, or doubt or fear about the future if that is what you want to be free from. Or you can stay in your Head and experience the consequences of that, and that is perfect too. These are the 2 primal locations to live from. Change the foundations, and all else will be revealed and given.

Ok.. then I will keep this thread alive and post whenever I find time to narrate the story: Let me make the first post but the screenplay is going to be not in the Chronological order; I will make the order so that you see the links between the events more clearly: Scene 1: Two Osho sannyasins from Germany wanted me to meet me when they visit India. They emailed me 2-3 months before. I interact with them on whatsapp about their travel plan. He tells me he would visit me on Nov 23rd. But on November 6th of this month, I tell him that 26th is better because it is on a Sunday. I will be free on Sundays... Scene 2: On November 9th, I send him a reply to a previous conversation asking me to remind me two days before their arrival. On the same day, I write the above poem and slept; I was woken up by the death news; It was a big death in our entire family and it was totally unexpected. Scene 3: Problems start between me and my father. My father gets offended by me and starts to point out how worthless my life is. I challenge my father and there is a cold war. Scene 4 - Nov 22 - It has been one year since I published my first book. I remembered how amazing it was...There is a lot to say regarding this one year, which I will write about in a different post in the same thread. Scene 5: Usually, after a death in South India, there is a celebration again after two weeks when all the relatives gather together. On Nove 23rd, my wife reminds me that it was going to be on November 26th on sunday.. But I totally forgot that the German sannyasins were coming that date. On the evening, I got a reminder from the Osho sannyasin. Scene 6: On Nov 25th, my whole family with all my relatives think that I am crazy and worthless. Lots of things happened on that day which led my relatives to get convinced that I am someone who needs a lots of advice. Scene 7: On Nov 26th, the German sannyasins come to my home town with my book and I became the center of attraction of my whole town. Everyone starts praising me. That is when all of my relatives came to know that I had written a book. My dad feels totally embarassed. We ended up taking a lot of pics: Scene 8: I also meet an old friend who I saw about 16 years before...It was another turning point in the story. Scene 9: Until last year, all of my relatives thought that I am the most useless guy among the relatives. But they now have the totally opposite idea.. And when I posted the following post today in Facebook, it brought me smile. 10) When I look at the whole thing today, I see how karma works very clearly. I see why things happened in my life the way they did. At every moment, trillions of karmic action is going on and interacting with us, creating many deep links among people. I also discovered that there are secret keys which lie behind the names of people who have been close with me the whole life. The whole discovery was amazing .. One 28th Nov, in the morning, as my face was drenched with tears of bliss and wonder, I was explaining how the whole thing was a Eureka moment to my wife; that is when I also remembered that the old friend that I met recently actually worked with me in a company for two months.. It was my first job and the name of the company was 'Eureka Forbes'.. By the way, the name of the german Sannyasini (the women) is Vedanta Kabiro! (to be continued)