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@Highest Don't do it! In your case I have the feeling it could be toxic. Solitude is not healing in and of itself. It can be a preferred environment for contemplation but only for someone who has a variety of experiences to choose from. When you watch Leo's videos be aware that he is someone who does "self-improvememt" for many years! The techniques he uses require a lot of experience. Dedication doesn't make up of training, you see? You can't lift 500 pounds with will power! If you want to change your life, that's great!! Be honest with yourself: what do you want? Because it sounds to me that you are suffering inside and hope that the solitude will cure that suffering - it won't. Solitude for the rest of your life (Dude!) would be for someone who wants to be alone to sit in the infinite bliss of being. Rather than extracting yourself from the world, be in it! Realize, that it is NOT the cause of your pain and there is no need for seperation. Masturbation, internet whatever is NOT the problem! The problem is that you use these things to distract yourself from your suffering. So my advice: be brutally honest with what you want! Sure, in forums like this people talk a lot about nothingness and Samadhi and what have you. And though it is interesting to know about these things it is important to act according to YOUR OWN level of consciousness. So ask yourself what you want: Girls? Money? Travelling? Reading? Making New friends? Then go after that! It will eventually lead you back to where you think you are now, but now in sync with your level of consciousness. The work that is discussed in this forum is not an escape, it's a confrontation. All best, take care of yourself!

Raw reality is that, Nothingness, Consciousness, Absolute Truth, and Unchanging Awareness ( as @Joseph Maynor says). Beliefs are only applicable in the dream world but enlightenment means getting out of it and realising that life is like a dream. So yh, if u want to realise truth, No belief is true, and you should question your beliefs. For functioning in the world you do need beliefs. The only difference would be you wont believe your belief if your enlightened. I dont if that makes sense. Self is a funny thing. It is like: (Believing in your life story which consists of attachements + memories etc) + (knowledge) = self

It was posted this morning. It's about nothingness.

i came here at the point one story ended and another began. came here because nothingness called for eternity. came here to close a circle by braking it. i came here for magic in life. i came here to understand myself while trying to understand others. i came here to make others understand through understanding me. came here for empowerment, came here for the reason of self-illumination and illumination of the world. i came here because i'm a functioning paradox in a paradoxic universe. i'm a catch 22 in a catch 22 i'm a catch 44. what doesn't mean i have no problems. it just means i found a solution of how to make sense of my life while caring for others. realizing i need them the same as they need me. 4+4=8 and 8 is the symbol of eternity.

For the i to seek truth is self deception. If the i seeks ultimate reality that is itself an illusion. The i Seeking an ultimate awakening/enlightenment is an illusion/delusion. Experience implies thought/things. Nothingness implies a cessation of experience.

1)The mind mostly stays generally empty or a distance is established between awareness and mind. There is no more identification with the mind. 2)The Body feels very light 3)The memories feels like only a heap of perceptions belonging to no one as there is no self left 4)The sense of self has expanded from being in the body to being everywhere 5)There is a natural flow to life. No more obstruction. 6) Continuously have to consciously pretend when I am talking to people. Consciously pretending generally goes on autopilot 7)The feeling of no self is like completely nothing being everything 8)Everything feels very ordinary and magical at the same time 9)Permanent death awarness 10)As the ego is not the self anymore, it is more adaptable and changeable 11)The questions have completely disappeared. There is no more seeking 12)Nothing is taken seriously. Life becomes a play 13)The only think I Know is I AM. Nothing is known other than this. Every other question can be negated as they are just based on assumptions 14)Total acceptance of the present moment. No more resistance 15) Free will seems to exist but belongs to nobody 16) Feels like Infinite Nothingness is all there is 17) Every moment feels fresh and new 18) SENSE of space and time are gone 19)There is no more existential suffering 20)Emotions come and go, you witness them without identification 21)An easiness or simplicity to life 22)Feeling like whole word is your home 23) No more psychological fear 24)A feeling of constant state of Samadhi without any high 25)Psyche is completely destroyed and then rebuild, it is like learning everything from scratch 26) Cannot confuse any belief for Absolute Truth 27)A feeling as if you were never born 28) A constant state of Happiness without being condition dependent 29)Always in a constant meditative state 30)Neurosis is not an issue anymore 31)The body still has needs but you don't identify them as your needs 32)A quality of grace and stillness has entered life 33)There is no need to make things right. Life is perfect as it is. Even if you do something to change something, life still stays perfect just like before 34)Nothing can effect you at your core. It is like a flame burning that cannot be extinguished 35)There is no ups and downs, life is like a gentle stream flowing 36)Everything unfolds seamlessly. There is no purpose to life but it is more like your purpose is revealed to you slowly 37)Beliefs are transcended. Truth is realised at a level beyond belief. A maya free state is established permanently 38) Unable to hate or dislike someone. It is not possible because the illusion of separateness has been vanquished completely

It’s nothingness. Not the nothingness of an empty black box. Not the nothingness of deep space. Not the nothingness of being devoid of motivation or emotions. Just nothingness. I seem to get the insights more of how I’m not my personality and history, but the insight of how I’m not even my body somehow takes some time for me. Without this, I can’t seem to get the idea of how I’m one with other people. I’ve gotten instances of it before, but to maintain it is something else. To the others, hmm. . . I’m familiar with much of what you’re saying, but this particular insight I have trouble with.

yes, why? And please dont say unity felt lonely So if it is unlimited, why does it has to create at all? Why cant it limit itself to unity. You say, becasue of infinity, it has to create, so we are back at nihilism. We are (and by that I mean I, you, it, god, everything) experiencing a complete random set of restraints which form our dualistic experience. Ok, for what? For what do we need exactly this is one variation of infinity (and by this I mean your exact life) ? Why the fuck would infinite consciousness not stay in unity for ever? What I want to say is that I do not see the reason why unity would have ever created duality? Just because its infinite and thus has to create everything? Why cant it be infinite in its unity? Which leads me to a doubt that creeped up: Can there be consciousness without duality? I can´t be conscious of nothing. Ok, because I am of the Ego. But then I have to assume that consciousness can be conscious of nothing. When you trip @Leo Gura and you say you were absolute infinity, meaning everything, meaning nothingness, shouldnt it be the same as falling asleep and waking up? And If not, how can you be sure not to doubt your experience? Thanks

@Dodo Are you familiar with Euler, and his equation, Euler's equation? If anything is beautiful and "impossible" in math, this is it! The numer "e" (the unique number whose natural logarithm is equal to one.) is like "Pi", it's transcendental, it doesn't stop anywhere, which means it continues for ever just like Pi. e = 2.71828... There is also a 'number' in math called "i", which is defined as the square root of (-1)(imaginary number) Also, remember when we talk about the mysterious quality of "0"(zero)? Also, the number "1" is equally magical, the most fundamental number expressing oneness. Even though "e", "pi" and "i" are not related to each other, they belong to different fields of mathematics so to speak. The three of them, together with the two numbers "0" and "1" come together and form the most beautiful equation ever, can you believe it?? Equation below! The only equation that made me cry once. Five magical numbers(Pi, e, i, 1, 0) seemingly unrelated to each other makes up the most simple and beautiful equation ever!! Equation below! It's impossible to understand how this simple relation can exist between independent irrational numbers. Beauty beyond infinity! Also, it really express nothingness(0), oneness(1) and duality(Pi, e, i) in the same equation. How awesome isn't that? This is almost as good as Snick-math and Dodo-math!

From experience, good Art is the definition of Enlightenment. May that art be music, architecture, poetry, movie, theatre, lullabies, fairy tales, children stories, painting, cartoons, religion (this too is the greatest art of nothingness), etc. Only good harmony of the body/mind can result in great achievement in discovering the shadows of reality. A practical example of Enlightenment and Immortality is this painting on a plate. One can see the truth behind the subliminal art shown using the 6th sense. Reality is already painted very nice in any social institution or systems of thinking, with a double-edged sword significance and appliance. Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." The passage above talks about the first initiates in how to "make the fire" (awakening). The first rulers of humankind. They first built a system of doctrine of the concepts and the mind, the basis of what we have today. The 5 senses only as to rule above other human beings. Because the Enlightened Masters of that time or any time in the human history, they did not go public. Only the "dogs" (initiates) wanted power and rule above newborns. The subject is very complex, as the Art itself is so complex that one cannot put it in concepts. One must experience, see, touch, feel, etc.

There are a lot of signs actually. I feeling that you know everything there is to know. A permanent shift in experience. Living in Absolute Nothingness. Unable to locate your 'self'. Complete disidentification from thoughts. The biggest one is the quest for enlightenment disappears. I go in this thread about post enlightenment observations, hopefully its of help, check the last post too for more observations

So to clarify how I understand it : Enlightenment is the interplay of how we gain insight from existential truth to add into the conceptual and practical experience of our everyday lives. We learn things we know in life by understanding how we don't know -- by understanding the absolute nothingness of Truth. Or can enlightenment simply be done for the sake of existential truth itself? Does it even require to? Well, I could see where you're coming from. Enlightenment doesn't create absolute happiness, but it sure does help a lot for that -- you know, once you get pass some of those terrible "Dark Night" stages. Feel free to tell me what you think the truth is so I can check it for myself. I find very little belief in the benefit of absolute happiness though. We need some negative emotions sometimes. With no fear, we'd be doing reckless things and eventually will wind up killing ourselves in some accident. With no anger, we're not willing to stand up for ourselves when someone is purposely harming us. With no sadness, we won't understand how wonderful it means to gain something valuable without feeling something's loss -- no need for reflection on why we've lost something, because we feel no need to gain something valuable back. More frequent happiness is good. Complete happiness? Nah.

Infinite consciousness is all there is. It's pure nothingness, but not in a way that it doesn't exist. It exists as nothingness It has no objective quality or thing to it. But we know from Leo's latest video that it has infinite intelligence. He also mentioned it has a flavour of infinite love/beauty. Are these two(intelligence and love/beauty) the basic fundamental and constant features of infinite consciousness? Or are there any m more features to it?

It is constantly changing, and yet we attempt to make sense of it. We limit the limitless, and examine the nonsense that is any thing divided and isolated from the whole. Instead of listening we speak, and use our voice to blame something lying outside the boundaries of that which we thought to be in a certain way, for destroying the order that we falsely believed to have discovered. Any division is imagined, and any attempt at understanding things pushes the truth out of reach. Only by becoming still can we hear the tone of truth, as any question interferes with and changes its frequency. Put in another way. You are all that is, nothing less, nothing more. Part of you observes and part of you is the observed. The wound of doubt causes this fundamental distinction. For it to heal, you have to let go, let yourself be. To let yourself be means to let that which you falsely believe to be not you - like the environment, other people, the universe - be. Stop examining and analyzing yourself and that which you believe is not you. Through inaction, stillness, nothingness, the wound will heal, thoughts will seize, and truth will be.

First of all I want to say that this Leo's last video about intelligence goes a little against Leo's teachings so far. I am a big fan of Leo's way of thinking, though I don't always agree 100% with few and small pieces of truth or the way he interprets them. But in this case, when it comes to intelligence, I strongly believe that Leo did an important step backwards. This video has many points in it that can be debated individually, but as an overall picture, the reason why I consider it wrong is the following: ---- If all that it is, is a consciousness that creates the reality as we see it, this consciousness can't be attributed with any quality or property ---- Not even the attribute of infinity, which is the same with nothingness as we already know. But, to express somehow that the source of reality is omnipotent, we define it as infinite (which is not a human understandable concept). And that's all. Now, saying that this consciousness is intelligent is as nonsensical as saying that it is good, or white, or polite etc. Intelligent as opposed to what ? Because being infinite, the consciousness is also bad, black, unpolite and non-intelligent accordingly. Then, if you think that the creator did a lot of intelligent work in arranging molecules and atoms in cells from Leo's hand hair, it is again a nonsense. And here is why : the creator didn't have a previous a set of rules to figure out how they work and to think how to arrange things in the best way to form a cell. No, the creator IS the rules. He only created the cell without any need to "think" because whatever he did it was perfect. How could be otherwise ? Compared to what else ? I know that this seems counter-intuitive, as the cells look so perfect and they build a bigger being which is again perfect and all these fit in a perfect tuned universe which works like a clockwork perfectly. That seems to be a scenario of some very intelligent creator. Well, no. It is an illusion of our species who tries to live a better life figuring out things and arranging them in an "intelligent" way. we need to do this because we work with creator's creation, not ours. One of the answer of the above dilemma is the following: the reality is infinite, so this universe is just a tinny part of the reality. Countless of non livable universes might exist, and who knows, maybe they are perfect for other form of life. Another solution is to take the reality as it is. I mean, in this reality, we are the beings that could have been ever evolved. Period. It is not like viceversa: to create our species, the reality needs to function like this and that, yati yati,,.. Nope. We live the illusion that the creator is intelligent because we look at our universe and wonder how perfect it is. Compared to what ? If we were a form of life made from silicon , or rubber, or steel, we also have said that we lived in a perfect world, because we never can imagine an imperfect world. Or if we can, it already exists. Intelligence as an absolute concept does not exist. Not even applied to earthly things or beings, because there is no any absolute measure for it.

Cause that's not reality. You confuse it with the story that doesn't go your way. Reality is stillness. Neutral nothingness. Lol

ok, what about the other way round? what about questioning them while taking them? i know that you can get some insights, because i took psychedelics in my youth and had near death experience. but nothingness experience you can have without it. even infinity is something you can experience without them (maybe only by taking them in advance) but at some point isn't it better to stop? a lot of my friends had a really rough time, because they couldn't stop or they got lost on the way. i stopped taking drugs when i turned 18. and still am happy i did. though i never forget what i was able to see. all i want to say is: the craving mind can be delusional, too.

The world with no meaning "I walk the neighbourhood, I walk slowly. I watch all around me, I watch closely. Like a curious scientist I look deep, Through the mist of thought I manage to peek. There are people and flowers, They are right here, But they hold no meaning, That's pretty clear. There is no story, There is just this. And I walk on as Nothingness."

@Prabhaker All healing modalities imply that you are separate from oneness, that you need to be "fixed". Surrendering to the heart your personal identity is much more powerful to experience the infinite void of nothingness that you are.

I've just almost managed to completely surrender the self. Then the timer beeped. Heart was pumping again. I laughed a little bit. I was going deeper into nothingness and it was so fascinating, dammit, I probably will earn some money to feed myself to meditate more for couple of months and not work. Also, my digestive system starts working better in those moments. It certainly was the case with my first enlightenment experience 4 years ago, I precisely remember how I felt a very healthy sense of hunger afterwards. It feels like intestine muscles relax or move digested stuff easier. I don't know what exactly happens. But I certainly feel something is getting better inside Nofap and diet ok, smoking not ok. It's very inconveniently to make a proper list of goals from mobile.

@perlita Because it’s hard to notice falsity as an illusion in an illusion of falsity. And because it matters, and doesn’t matter. Like, everyone is talking to other people and looking in their eyes, without ever noticing the eye never grows, and the center is empty nothingness, and as we look at eachother’s eyes, we’re seeing “pupils”. The pupils (students) that we all are, the emptiness / the one that we all are. The situation is too obvious and that’s how it is convincing. The Light is allowed by that there is “we”, and that “get’s accomplished” by empty pupils allowing the light. You know what I’m sayin? It’s just a reference, pointing to the obviousness of the entire situation.

Hi everyone, Leo’s Consciousness video hit me like a ton of bricks as I have been reflecting on similar concepts and related topics for a while. The realization that Consciousness is Nothingness, that is all around us and that Human consciousness is IN Cosmic consciousness are brilliant insights that shake up the foundations of my understanding. And it even raises more questions. As an Engineer, I have always wondered if we would ever be able to detect Consciousness in some way, and why we haven’t been able to do it to date. Perhaps it is because is an unfathomable feat (‘Nothingness’ can’t be measured), or because it is beyond our current state of technology and knowledge. Interestingly enough, it is proven by experts that the majority of the Universe (specifically 96% of it) is made of mysterious and invisible substances called dark matter and dark energy. This so-called “dark stuff” has not directly been observed, but its presence is implied in a variety of astrophysical observations and by the gravitational force it exerts (it is stated that dark matter and dark energy are non-baryonic in nature. Non-baryonic matter, unlike all the kinds of matter with which we are familiar, is not made of baryons and is possibly being composed of some as-yet undiscovered subatomic particles). The shocker here is that 96% of the Cosmos is made out of “dark stuff”, leaving only a small 4% for all the matter and energy we know and understand. Energy like light, heat, and X-rays, together with matter like people, cows, birds, planet Earth, the Sun, and all the galaxies. No need to say that dark matter and dark energy raise some of the biggest questions in the study of space and physics. Lots of scientists are using observations and math to figure out what these mysterious and invisible stuff is. Now coming back to Leo’s video… The Universe is Consciousness and we are IN Consciousness. Consciousness is all around us, but we can touch it, smell it or see it because Consciousness is made out of Nothingness. In the same way, the Universe is made 96% of “dark stuff” and we are living IN dark stuff. Dark stuff is all around us, but we can touch it, smell it or see it because it seems to be made out of Nothingness. As you can imagine my biggest questions are: What are the chances that both things are somehow related? What are the chances that “dark matter” or “dark energy” are the stuff Consciousness is made of? Could we dare to say that dark energy or dark matter are Consciousness itself? Quite bold assumptions here and unfortunately with nothing to back it up, but what do you guys think?

We count on conjecture and theory from lack of direct experience all the time. We’ve never been born back in history, yet we believe in those people who talk about World War II. Most of us have never been to Mount Everest, but we believe the famous people who say they have. Most of us aren’t scientists working with the Hadron Collider, but we believe them as the experts. So much of everything we believe is just from other people. This is what removing the ego is. Letting go of what isn’t directly experienced and believing what is really there. And in there, there’s nothingness. Only from nothingness do we know what something is, and so we have a framework to compare our beliefs to something entirely without assumptions.

I have posted this before. Explains the a little about the nature of experience... Originally, experience means to go through with/to end.... To not carry experience over as a projection onto the present movement experiencing. But that is not what we do. We cling to experience and project forward onto the “dynamic now” When this is the case, all present experience implies “the accumulation of the past, “knowledge/memory”, and that recollection is then projected in the form of a new experience. But that experience is not new if it is influenced by the accumulation of memory, knowledge, and past experiencings. Any movement as such is a movement of thought, no matter how much one feels thought was not in movement. If a experience is identified it is a movement of thought “the known” Any experience implies the movement of thought/the thinker. In this case the experience and experiencer are one in the same movement. When/If, the movement of experience “knowledge/memory, being static”, ceases to be carried over onto the dynamic now, “not recorded and therefore projected” then no content/movement of the self, “thinker/thought”, will be projected as an experience at all. If all that movement of self ceases to manifest, so does the experience/experiencer who experiences. Which implies there is no-body to identify with any-thing. The ultimate freedom. If there is no such dualistic movement of thought taking place then that implies whole action that is not divisive and fragmented by a center/ego/thought..... This implies that the center “the i” is not. This is what is considered “ONENESS/NON-DUAL”... In this all movement ‘without’ such dualistic action implies whole action, complete action, the action of truth. Infinite, absolute, immeasurable. WHEN THIS DUALISTIC MOVEMENT CEASES, THAT IS THE ACTION OF TRUTH ITSELF. THIS IS EMBODIMENT OF TRUTH, AND MAY BE REFERED TO AS THE INFINITE, ABSOLUTE, THE IMMEASURABLE. BUT THERE IS NO IDENTIFICATION/EXPERIENCE OF SUCH IMMENSE ENERGY. CENTERLESSNESS IMPLIES NOTHINGNESS AND NOTHINGNESS IMPLIES THE ABSENCE OF IDENTIFICATION/EXPERIENCE THE ENDING OF TIME.

@Betterself Yes, you are alone. As God. Nonduality means there cannot be any "other" who is not you. The deepest levels of nonduality can make you start to feel lonely, as you realize that you created this entire dream all by yourself and the illusion of "otherness" gets shattered. It can feel very solipsistic, but also, as the mind adjusts to your new understanding, the loneliness should dissipate. I do not exist. You created this forum to entertain yourself. And here you are reading all these posts that you yourself wrote to yourself. Seeking advice from "others" who are really just yourself. Try to see the beauty of that. Aloneness and connection are ONE. You can look at it like the glass is half empty, or the glass is half full. By being everyone, you are infinitely connected to everyone. You still haven't surrendered fully to nonduality. Yes, it's very radical and scary to surrender fully to it. The truth is radical beyond words. Your fear of being totally alone is precisely what you must explore and ultimately surrender. The ego-mind hates it of course and will be resistant, trying to anchor itself into something, anything to avoid Absolute Nothingness and Total ONENESS.