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Most people just lack the basics and hope for work free instant bliss, many gurus capitalise on that,

Just watched this YouTube and found it very insightful. Thought I would share it with you for those that may never have watched or heard of this channel called, "GOD WithIn." Here is the link: I copied the transcript for those that like to read instead of watching videos. You can meditate for 10 years, collect crystals, memorize spiritual quotes, and still never wake up. Because awakening has nothing to do with being spiritual. Most people don't realize this. They think awakening is about adding more, more practices, more rituals, more teachings. But real awakening isn't about addition. It's about subtraction. It's about removing everything that hides what's already true. You see, you don't need to become spiritual to wake up. You only need to see through what you've been pretending to be. But that's the tricky part because the ego is very clever. When it realizes it can't survive through material identity anymore, it puts on a new mask, the spiritual one. Suddenly it's not I'm successful or I'm smart. It becomes I'm awakened, I'm pure, I'm different from others. And that's how the spiritual ego is born. It's subtle but dangerous because it feels good. It feels peaceful, righteous, and even divine. But it's still ego just wearing white robes instead of designer clothes. You start comparing your peace to others chaos. You start feeling proud that you don't need anything while quietly judging those who still do. You say you're detached, but you're secretly attached to the idea of being detached, it's another game, another illusion. And the moment you realize that everything shifts because you see, the real awakening isn't about becoming anything. It's about ending the search completely. It's that quiet moment when the mind finally gets tired of chasing enlightenment and it just stops. It surrenders. And in that silence, something deeper begins to breathe through you. Something that was always there, hidden under all the spiritual noise. That's awakening. Not a lightning bolt, not a cosmic vision, not a new identity. It's the falling away of the old one. Let me tell you something most people won't say. Spirituality has become the ego's favorite hiding place. It's where the ego goes when it's tired of pretending to be worldly. It goes to temples and retreats and sacred spaces, but it takes itself with it. It becomes the one who knows the one who understands energy, the one who has awakened. And that's why so many seekers stay seekers forever because they're still someone, still a me that wants to become something more. But awakening is the death of that me. It's not glamorous. It's not about glowing chakras or manifesting things. It's about facing the raw truth that there never was a separate you to awaken. You see, the truth doesn't care whether you're spiritual or not. It doesn't care if you chant or pray or meditate. The truth simply is. It's right here, right now, waiting for you to stop searching long enough to see it. Let me ask you this. Who is the one trying to awaken? Who is chasing this idea of enlightenment? If you sit quietly with that question, something strange happens. The one who's been chasing suddenly disappears and what's left is peace. That peace doesn't belong to anyone. It's not personal. It's not something you achieve. It's what remains when the idea of me falls away. Most people don't reach that point because they're addicted to becoming. Even in spirituality, they want progress, status, something to hold on to. But awakening doesn't give you something to hold. It takes everything away, including the one who wanted to hold it. That's why it feels like dying before you die. When people say awakening is bliss, they forget to mention the part where your identity dissolves. Where the ground beneath your belief’s collapses, where everything you thought made you, you fade into nothingness. That nothingness is freedom. It's what you've been searching for disguised as emptiness. You see, true awakening doesn't make you special. It makes you simple. You stop trying to fix the world or fix yourself. You stop trying to be good or spiritual. You just are. There's no longer a you trying to live life. There's only life flowing effortlessly. You might still meditate, pray, or light candles, but not because you're trying to reach something. You do it because it flows naturally. Because the doing is the being. You can be fully awake and never call yourself spiritual. In fact, many awakened beings never use that word. They don't need to. They've seen through all labels, even spirituality itself. Because when you're truly awake, everything becomes sacred. The silence, the noise, the pain, the joy, the ordinary moments. Awakening doesn't divide the world into spiritual and unspiritual. It sees everything as one expression. The person meditating on a mountaintop and the person washing dishes in the city both are the same life playing different roles. And when you see that, judgment disappears. Comparison disappears. You stop looking down on those who haven't woken up because you realize there's no such thing as asleep or awake. There's only life experiencing itself in different stages of remembering. This realization humbles you. It softens you. You no longer need to prove you’re awakening. You no longer need to convince anyone of your peace. You no longer post about your vibration or your frequency because you've realized the most awakened thing you can do is be nobody. That's the paradox. The moment you stop trying to be spiritual, you naturally embody the deepest spirituality there is. Presence, authenticity, silence. You might look ordinary to others, but inside you're free. The spiritual ego wants to be seen as awakened. The true self doesn't care. It doesn't need attention. It doesn't need validation. It just quietly observes in stillness, in awareness, in love. You see, awakening isn't about reaching some higher realm. It's about seeing clearly this one without the filters of belief, identity, or judgment. The mind loves labels. It says this is spiritual, this is not. But awareness doesn't label anything. It just sees. When you wake up, you realize spirituality was just a bridge. A useful one maybe. But at some point, you have to step off it. Because truth isn't on the bridge. It's the ground you've been standing on the whole time. You don't need to be spiritual to wake up. You just need to be honest. Honest enough to admit you don't know anything. Honest enough to see how even your spiritual progress was just another story. Honest enough to let all of it go. That's when awakening happens. Not as an achievement, but as a falling away. You stop trying to become light and realize you already are. It's not something you learn. It's something you remember. And that remembrance doesn't come through effort. It comes through stillness, through exhaustion of all you're seeking, through the quiet moment when you finally stop trying to get it. That's when life whispers. You've been it all along and everything makes sense. You no longer care about being spiritual or unspiritual, awake or asleep, enlightened or lost. Those words lose their meaning because the truth was never hiding in your spiritual identity. It was hiding in your ordinary humanity. The laugh, the tears, the moments you thought were meaningless. Those were the doorway. The mind made it complicated. But reality has always been simple. You see, when you wake up, you realize there was never a seeker. There was only the seeking, moving through you like wind through an open window. And when the window realizes it's never been separate from the wind, that's awakening. So don't try to become spiritual. Don't force it. Don't wear the identity of it. Just be present. Because that's where the real awakening lives. In the silence beneath the trying, in the space between thoughts, in the deep acceptance of what is. And that's the funny thing. When you stop searching, when you stop labeling yourself as spiritual or not spiritual, you finally find what you were searching for all along. Peace. Not peace you create, but peace that's already here. So, the next time someone tells you to be more spiritual, smile gently because you'll know something they don't. That the real awakening has nothing to do with being spiritual. It's about being real, being raw, being free. You don't need crystals. You don't need mantras. You don't need fancy words. You just need to be willing to see what's true right here, right now, beyond all ideas of what awakening should look like. Because the truth doesn't fit inside an identity. It's bigger than that. It's who you already are before the story of spiritual ever began. So remember this, you don't wake up by being spiritual. You wake up from being spiritual. And when that happens, you finally stop trying to find the light because you realize that you are the light.

That's true, but in the end we all want a Pleasurable experience in life, not a miserable one, and emotions like Happiness, Joy, Love, Peace, they are all Pleasurable experiences, but not identical, that is why we have words that describe them... Love mean Two, its in relationship to something else. Peace is balance and equanimity, Joy having Fun like a child, Happiness is Acceptance of What Is. But Bliss and Ecstasy are not like these things, Bliss is overall a more intense experience of Pleasure, and its related to inner Experience, and Ecstasy is out of this world Pleasure that comes from within as well, so there is a difference in terminology I think!!

I think it's just a matter of words and semantics, maybe one can have an experience of Love that is even higher than Bliss and Ecstasy. But in the end if we are talking about the same thing, words can never do it justice, they are just pointers

Bliss and Ecstasy, I would want these things more than Love.. You only want Love to feel a "sense" of Bliss, as Love means TWO, it is mostly about You and someone else or something else as ppl can luv their car, house, vacay spot and other things... I've created a scale of sorts, 0=Peace, 10=Ecstasy, Love is 8, Bliss is 9, its all about Intensity of Emotion and Experience, as Bliss/Ecstasy are not Emotions, but Love is!

Just writing my insights... Infinite self, infinite consciousness, infinite bliss, infinite love, joy, all within one's self, recognition is all that's required by raw experience of everything in your consciousness without filterings of the ego-mind. More importantly also raw experiencing of the ego-mind as exactly as it is.

Not always my friend, there are better ways to do it. I find following what you love or are passionate about often leads to embodiment, meditation, bliss naturally. Ever had a good dance or run or had great sex and then realized how deep you can bathe in stillness afterwards? Sometimes its not the best method to force because the mind is far too over-stimulated, rather it needs to settle down first. A walk in the woods, after an hour, you can meditate much more deeply then if you didn't take that walk, because the immersion (into the physical body) is what helps thoughts and energy flow. Most people today are far too in the head (technology/overstimulation) so they need to channel that energy into the body and ground first.

The essence of what we all are, all life is, is the same, you can say it is Energy, a subtle form of Energy, or some call it soul or atman, whatever it is it is Us, but we have unique and different Body/Mind complexes.. Its like a bubble, we are bubbles of Energy or God/Absolute separated by the layer of Bubble material.. This bubble material is karmic material, it is like the glue, its keeps all the 5 bodies together and intact, food,mind,energy,etheric and bliss body. Food body is on the grossest level, Bliss body the most subtle, non physical in nature, Now I do not know how this process came about, the mechanics of it, but the why I think is simple, Absolute wants to know itself, so via the Potential making machine it is, we are here to play it out within a certain set of rules and limitations, a game of sorts, that's my take on it.. In the end we will never really know the Why of Existence, the Why of why I am here, and why are things the way they are, its too complex, to sophisticated, if You go down this rabbit hole You will endlessly be asking WHY. I much rather bask in the knowing of I do not know everything and experience Bliss and Source as much as possible..

Nice!! The permanency comes from setting up the right atmosphere within in.. We have a Body and Mind, via the Body and Mind we can Experience and Express, if we set up the Body and Mind to what we want to Experience, then it will be permanent.. My Mother Experienced Depression, it was a daily thing, in fact daily at certain times she would feel it more intensely and less intensely but it was a daily thing, I witnessed it.,, If this is so, why can't someone feel Bliss daily?? Its possible! Now Bliss is not the goal of Spirituality, its just the foundation, if Your Blissful naturally daily, then Sat and Chit (Truth and Consciousness/Brahman/Source Intelligence) are more available to You since the atmosphere within You is more receptive in this state of Being.. So that is what the various Eastern practices like Yoga and Taoism are about, to set up the atmosphere so You Experience daily the God/Absolute that is within Us and all around Us, the is our highest Potential as a Human Being imo!!

Agree, any feeling of joy or sadness is included as a potential of what we are, but the point is to be able to go a little beyond this and open ourselves to what tradition calls Sat Chit Ananda: the full brilliance of what is simply by virtue of being. Sat, that which is and cannot cease to be. Chit, that which stands out, knows itself, is self-aware. Ananda, absolute joy, the bliss that arises from openness to the unlimited. The completeness, the absence of lack, that which is totally perfect and needs nothing because it is everything. Of course, nobody is claiming that this openess, state, whatever you want to call it is permanent, but it's possible and is the end of the searching and the beginning of the exploration

Have You ever had one of those days were Your Not feeling so great, maybe a bit blue or sad, then Your Favorite song comes on the radio or speaker system and You all of a sudden feel better? This is hidden Potential within You! The "Feeling Better" was always available to You, You just needed the music to make it come out.. As soon as I realized this in my life I realized everything I want is already present within myself as a Potential, nd that I can manifest it myself with no outside Stimuli needed! When I started a Weight Lifting program the amount of weight I lifted for each lift increase allot after a couple of weeks training, after a couple of mths I could feel and see my muscles were Growing, this is a hidden Potential within, it just needs the Stimuli of lifting weights to bring it out compared to sitting around and doing no activity! So there are a Billion other examples out there, Stallone wrote the script to Rocky in 3 days, the basic draft, the Potential for the Rocky script was always in Sly, he just needed some outside stimulus to make it come out on the paper, and later some refinement! So God is not Love, or Hate, or Bliss, or Sadness, or Success or Failure, those things are mostly completely within Our Control, God just sets up the playing field, the Field of Potential, You are here to go thru this Field of Potential and make it out to be whatever You want it too Be!

We all want the samething, but we go about it in different ways. We all want a Sense of Bliss, which I would say is a combination of Intense Happiness, a Sense of Completeness, Fulfilment, Inner Creativity being Expressed! Lots of Us look outside for a stimulus to feel this Bliss. The simplest way is Orgasm, here You get a short intense Experience of Bliss. Other ways are getting into relationships, at certain points You feel this Bliss, some call it Love, its chemical in its basis to allow procreation to happen, we have to bond with our partner to allow proper child raising to happen so the species lives on another day.. Another way is to do activities, gamble, watch movies, play sports, start a business, do crime, work in a creative field of interest but fundamentally we are looking for a sense of Bliss, feeling Bliss is life enhancing, feeling Depression/Anxiety/Fear is does the opposite it dis empowers life, we are here to enhance life ultimately. So I want Bliss as a natural Experience without outside Stimuli needed!

I just wrote about it deeply to my audience (I got feedback telling me I should write a book about it) It goes something like this: --- Groupthink makes you believe your peak years are your 20s. Why? Sex, alcohol, party, healthy, little responsibilities... Your body responds, your mind is fresh, everything is new and you can 'maximize dopamine'. But what happens when the law of diminishing returns starts to work against you? (and it will). What happens when new things are no longer exciting? Thats the 30 year old dip. And a huge gap is created between guys that make a shift and the ones who just give up. Most people buy the lie 'your 20s are your prime', because they are trapped in pleasure seeking. And that doesnt work after 30. People need a shift. A shift towards spirituality, life purpose and self-education. A shift towards eudaimonia, mindfulness, bliss, peace, awakening. A shit towards enjoying simple things in life. Things that are not glamorous per se. Leo has a video titled: ''why valuable things take time''. Well, thats true. You can go have sex, or get drunk tonight, but thats not the good life. The good life is more sophisticated than that. The good life are the things I mentioned above. And that requires work, patience, discipline, integrity and maturity. Damn, even as I go through a challenging period in my life now, I feel that the negative emotions Im feeling are more 'pure and deeper' that the ones I felt when I was younger. - This is top tier stage orange advice: And most people need to play the orange-green game for a couple decades (It seems Kant was a party guy until 40...) But what 1stMan does not see is the spiritual side; so for us, age can be an even bigger upside. +40 is when you can get really deep results in spirituality, life purpose and self-awareness. For me the keys, now getting into my 40s are: -Health: Strength training, healthy nutrition and stretching/mobility training -Life purpose -Spirituality -Constant self-education -Optimism/Vitalism And of course, arguably the most important thing of all: Life really does begin at 40. Up until then, you are just doing research," -Carl Jung

Death Indifference and Crisis induced Euphoria. Other people's death doesn't trigger me, no matter how close. Likely coming from my indifference to my own death. And on top of that, these induce the most sophisticated states in me. Especially when there's a personal crises. Flow states, DMT inside brain. Another thing is self inducing bliss, no need for any practice or such, although it's not sustainable if your body isn't fit and healthy. It's not magic, it's a skill. It's like gaining access to the bliss room inside your brain, there's a limited amount of chemicals there, use it wisely. Better not to use it at all, but instead use it to do hard things with ease. Anyways, fuck bliss I'm bored of it, I'm interested in the other emotions. Fair warning; this is not a real skill, we need all emotions, biasing towards bliss is a sureshot way to self dsetruction. --- These aren't super powers. Please don't use ugly words like that. It's normal to develop skills.

He's just gatekeeping. This stuff works through intent of the one initiating you, to a great extent. He doesn't want anyone becoming independent practicioners. His volunteers have the same attitude. Perhaps it's trauma, he claims his past life his guru treated him like an untouchable and only interacted with a stick, instead of using hands. And his own claim that he's just a slave to Shiva. These themes just keep recurring. You get bliss by sucking Shambhavi tits. That's the level of sophistication this kriya has. It's literally borrowed bliss. And it comes with a heavy cost; your freedom.

And yeah, the bliss thing is a gimmick. It wears off the moment you start thinking independently and break out of the conformity. You can rack up records of how blissful these people are when you're under the effect of delusions and show it off. None of that is sustainable. The people I've found in that community are some of the most miserable people ever. Sure, they have this clown face when they're in their guru sucking mode. I've seen them and lived with them enough to understand how this is evil. The positioning and manipulation, it's beyond shady. I will tell you this, some of the most blissful moments in my life is because of that thing. But I've paid the price for it dearly. I'm so glad I got out of it in a matter of months.. May be I've sat with it for a year at max, but that's it.

@ryoko He states openly he knows exactly how to manipulate people and create karma for them. and he does it on regular. He knows how human body works and uses it to manipulate. I remeber him saying to interviewer i can say one word to you and your mine. He knows and has a personal agenda. A guru knows nobody exists and they don't exist but for some reason he has a personal agenda. I don't see any of his followers here writhing in bliss like they claim. The ones in his videos are doing it because of him not themselves. There are 100 reasons why you should trust Leo gura over sadhguru. Leo is trying to help via deconstruction sadhguru never deconstruct its always vague anecdotes. He says he has a reputation to hold but also says he dosent exist. Which is it? There are so many contradictions in what he says he is constantly contradicting himself. It could be on purpose I don't know. He is hanging out with elites all day.

Anyways fuck bliss. Where's your rage, anger, fear, anxiety, geed, lust, sloth, jealousy, sadness. We need all of these. I suggest reading "Laughing in the face of chaos" by Ruda Iande. The guy's very mature, and he doesn't bias you towards bliss or feel good. Some really good pointers on finding your values, very realistic.

I've been in close proximity with a volunteer. And his everyday rituals. There's this pledge, I forget the wording.. "...I will strive my best to fulfil Sadhguru's vision.." more words but it ends like that. My reaction to that was utter contempt. He worships his guru with a photo and some Yantra and other usual stuffs like burning camphor, wearing bhasma. Not against any of that, I get it, rituals are a powerful way to invoke certain stuff. This is a cult. That's when I got into thinking what's the point of Shambhavi. I started connecting the dots. He mentions Shambhavi as "she's a star"..like she's a person, coincidence? I think not. In one of what Sadhguru claims to be his past life where he was a snake guy, his girlfriend's name was Shambhavi, and people killed him with his own snakes for that love affair. That was his first experience into awareness while dying. There's so much crazy stuff than the eye meets. Shambhavi is like a temple that once you're initiated, it's there, the point of your daily practices is to clean the temple, take care of it. It's borrowed bliss. This is quite a common theme in the Hindu culture with local deities. You're submitting something of yours for something in return. And the next is, knowing a community of people who are dedicated to volunteering, and doing the practices. That's where everything broke for me. The way he frames this. He's selling you bliss. I'm not saying it cannot work, but what it will do is destroy your possibility for material growth in big ways, unless you're an asshole who can use this to extract the preferred hormones by submission and use it as a cushion to do horrible things, basic hierarchy we find all over nature and human cultures, work a shitty job which pays well, cope with the money. All spiritual practices have an element to them which destroys your material nature if you're serious about it. I do agree with him that bliss or well being is not something that should be a goal, it should be the default. Had I not known these people intimately I wouldn't have quit this whole thing.

Done it in 2021, I never watched the videos just let them play. I only enrolled to get initiated into shambhavi mahamudra. It's a great practice for getting significant gains in happiness and overall wellbeing. I feel a bit of bliss from it, from time to time. Iv done all their programmes, Shakti chalana kriya is their best practice in my opinion. Which is done as part of the shoonya programme. Isha's practices are the best thing I have came across for improving your day to day experience.

The Inner Engineering Course is Excellent! The 7 classes are awesome as well as the practice learned at this level Shambhavi Mahamudra, its very effective, I felt a wave of Bliss after a couple of weeks practice. You have to practice twice a day for a mundala or 40days after You learn it, then after that its once daily minimum... The videos are great, and the Q&A videos attached to each of the 7 classes are very very good, he goes into more details than he does with the regular Youtube video's, its very worth the effort and price, I did both online and in person with Sadhguru, in person of course is the best option if its available to You!! No risk, no reward, do it and then give it a good go for at least 6mths, You won't regret it!! Some of the topics on the video's/classes: Responsibility, how to get Your Free Will back This Moment is Inevitable, basically a class and dissection of the art of Accepting What Is! Present Moment Awareness Sounds and Mantra The Mind, how it works, its a miracle worker! Food, what foods to eat and avoid while on the spiritual path. Karma, what it is and how to use it and/or dissolve it.. and a few more topics too...

The kriya itself is a mix of normal yoga practices, done in an order. The practice itself has nothing to do with bliss. It's the belief that this practice can change stuff, and the philosophy musings combined by the theoretical lessons, it creates a certain delusional effect. He aims to keep it alive so you keep feeling blissful, or you think you should feel blissful. What he's aiming to do is trigger certain hormones by using a mix of beliefs, yoga and a whole community of sheeps. As for the results, I can confirm they wear off the moment you start thinking on your own.

Shambhavi Mahamudra Kriya is potent as long as you hold the dogma. It's effective at first, then it quickly turns into a mundane exercise. Don't buy into their bliss claims. I recommend doing some actual physical activity instead. Shambhavi isn't in any way sufficient. I got initiated back in 2021, and it was a great experience. But the more I went into this rabbit hole, the more I saw it's true face, I quit the whole thing in a matter of months. Had nothing to do with Sadhguru ever again.

💙 How would you characterize your experience? I'd describe my 5-MeO breakthroughs as "bliss," perhaps - powerful experiences indeed. This might not do it justice - besides, it's just a single term - but it's somewhat accurate in my estimation. It's hard for the mind to make sense of such a state, particularly after the chemical wears off. I recognize that I could have interpreted it - any experience, for that matter - in a way that simply confirmed my existing beliefs or desires. It can easily become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's a nice online social space - for fun, interacting with other minds, learning stuff, sharing or asking for advice, having the occasional thought-provoking discussion, and so on.

It’s hard to find inner peace when someone’s drilling asphalt at 7 AM. City life really tests your sanity. Maybe ignorance really is bliss, those people look like they’re having a great time not noticing anything.