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Malkom replied to Ramasta9's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And they talk about "emptiness" and that everything is empty, as if they're experiencing derealization and depersonalization, which is a mentally unhealthy topic. After all, even if you take psychedelics, it's to become healthy, if we're talking about the true purpose of psychedelics, and not to cripple yourself. A digression. Emptiness in the context of Nonduality is Potential, Limitless Potential, without content, as if pregnant with existence. This is not emptiness in the conventional understanding of the mind. -
As I understand it, I will apply a rational and logical approach (logic is also part of God and Reality, and you cannot deny it, and logic is Beautiful, although God is beyond logic and everything else). I will manifest, so to speak, the "masculine principle," the "logical principle," the principle of Creation, the principle of Power and Will (at first, of course, I sense and feel it as the "feminine principle," okay, let's not get into wordplay. Let's begin. If we use this context (but it's just a context, the main thing is that it's currently working, not in an absolute sense, but that's not necessary for now), the Feminine, as I already wrote, is feelings, it is being itself, it is the heart, and in a sense it is more reasonable, and seemingly more primary and important, although in reality both are important and both seem to be nonexistent, it is One. But there must be Fullness. It is impossible to be on one side or the other. So Here you go. Many desires are illusory; they stem from ego structures, but behind them lies an unconscious part, the part that you also Are. These ego structures block the true energy of the Self—traumas, beliefs, limitations, and so on, for example. And liberation from desires is death; life is Desire itself, it is Pure Being, it is Pure Desire. The point is not to get rid of desires, but to let the flow of the "true self" flow (to free yourself, to release the spasms in your soul and body, to feel "flight," "peace," and "tide," so that it manifests through your ego, through your uniqueness. The point is not to get rid of the ego, but to get rid of the ego structures that have created a prison for your Consciousness, to allow you to see everything from different perspectives, multidimensionally/infinitely, and at the same time have your own position. The point is not to get rid of the ego, but to create a healthy ego so that you are as in touch with Reality as possible. To be like "Mercury" envelops objects, is them, and at the same time always is Yourself, plays with objects like "life" itself, or is like "fire"—it's always different, it's alive, it's primordial, and at the same time it's Fire and it's One, that metaphor. Or, as many say, "emptiness"—it fills everything, and at the same time is nothing. But these are just metaphors and concepts for understanding (if you think about it, "emptiness" is also something, so it can't be true emptiness, just Be ahahahaha). Sometimes I think that many spiritual teachings are missing what I just wrote, and I think they're talking nonsense. Practicing Nonduality and being in a non-dual state nonstop is just another religion, just another belief, it's not Nonduality. On the contrary, they lead you away from yourself, from true nonduality, which has no definition, otherwise it's already duality. This is just my opinion. I have a fantastic a flair for such things, the truth is somewhere nearby. Truth = Reality
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Natasha Tori Maru replied to TheGod's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Eskilon I used to watch a lot and read manga (my dad is half Japanese) when I was a kid. I was exposed to Neon Genesis back then! I recently rewatched it and was slightly taken aback regarding how adult it was - depression, shame, worthlessness, oneness, love, lots of nonduality etc. The overall story grabs me, less so single character (I can dislike a protagonist, and like a story). Shinji is a difficult character but a good one, IMO. He embodies shame - which is a very unique feeling as it is one of the only feelings that is also a belief. I haven't met one person who did not have some internalised shame. We just aren't aware of it. So at different stages of self awareness, we relate to Shinji more, or less. In my experience anyway -
Dodo replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Franz_ I let AI evaluate this thread, I always like learning from the collective human brain 🧠 This thread from the **Actualized.org Forum** captures a wide spectrum of spiritual and metaphysical worldviews, and it’s actually quite representative of the wider conversation happening in modern spirituality about **“other realms”**, **altered consciousness**, and the **nature of reality**. Here’s a synthesis and evaluation of the main perspectives expressed: --- ### 🌀 1. **Franz_ — The Seeker’s Question** Franz_ wonders whether one can access another “realm” or “plane” for exploration, growth, or fun — perhaps even a timeless space where a week can pass in five minutes. * **Core impulse:** Curiosity, exploration, spiritual adventure. * **Underlying theme:** The desire to test the boundaries of what is possible in consciousness. This is a classic mystical impulse — the yearning to go *beyond* ordinary perception. But it’s also tinged with a modern, “gamified” mindset toward spirituality: using realms as spaces for self-experimentation. --- ### 🌌 2. **Princess Arabia — Nondual Perspective** > “There is not even this realm.” > “You cannot go outside of reality, as you are reality.” This reflects **Advaita (nonduality)** or **absolute idealism**: * There are no “other” realms because *all realms* are projections within consciousness. * The notion of “accessing another plane” presupposes duality — a “you” that could move between “places.” * But from this view, there’s only *Being* — reality itself, indivisible and self-contained. **Evaluation:** Philosophically deep but experientially challenging. It denies the very premise of exploration as illusion — profound if realized, but abstract if taken merely intellectually. --- ### 🌈 3. **pursuitofspirit — Psychedelic & Mystical Access** > “There are other realms and dimensions of consciousness… You will probably need help from a substance.” This is the **psychedelic mystic** perspective — that certain substances (DMT, psilocybin, etc.) allow access to “higher” or alternate planes of consciousness. * Real or not, these states *feel* hyper-real and can yield transformative insights. * But they’re typically impermanent and may depend on context, set, and substance. **Evaluation:** Valid as an experiential path, but limited as a foundation for stable spiritual growth. It can show what’s possible but not sustain it. --- ### 🧘♂️ 4. **Dodo — Grounded Spiritual Practice** > “Don’t try to escape reality through spirituality… seek the permanent, not the temporary realm.” This echoes **Zen** and **mindfulness traditions**: * Spirituality is not about escaping to other planes, but awakening *within* this one. * The goal is not altered states but **altered traits** — peace, clarity, presence. **Evaluation:** Highly balanced. Reminds the seeker that even if other realms exist, the purpose is integration into ordinary life. --- ### ✨ 5. **Adrian Colby — Astral Projection & Verification** Adrian gives detailed accounts of **astral projection**, **lucid dreaming**, and **out-of-body experiences (OBEs)**, claiming verifiable results (e.g., seeing a friend’s room). * His approach is empirical — trying to consciously enter these states and test their validity. * References Monroe Institute and Tom Campbell (both pioneers of OBEs and consciousness research). **Evaluation:** Fascinating and well-grounded in parapsychological literature. Whether or not literally “real,” these experiences are psychologically and phenomenologically significant. They represent the **exploratory frontier** of consciousness studies. --- ### 🕊️ 6. **gettoefl & Wilhelm44 — Mystical Symbolism** gettoefl: “Heaven is in your midst; ego wants you to play games.” Wilhelm44: “Train your imagination like a muscle; amplify frequencies of magical experiences.” * **gettoefl** echoes Christian mysticism — Heaven is *here and now*, not elsewhere. * **Wilhelm44** leans toward **esoteric manifestation** or **imaginative energy work**, using memory and emotion to “tune” to higher states. **Evaluation:** Both highlight that the realms we seek “out there” may be accessed inwardly, through feeling, imagination, and surrender. --- ### 🔍 7. **Meta Evaluation — Integrating the Views** | Orientation | Key Idea | Potential Pitfall | Integrative View | | -------------------------- | ------------------------------------------ | ------------------------------------------- | ---------------------------------------------------------- | | Nondual | All is One; no “other” realms | Can become dismissive of genuine experience | Recognize unity while exploring multiplicity as expression | | Psychedelic / Experiential | Other realms accessible via altered states | Dependency, confusion | Use as glimpses, not crutches | | Grounded / Mindfulness | Be here now | May seem “boring” to seekers | Deep stability and lasting peace | | Exploratory / OBE | Conscious travel beyond body | Verification difficult | Treat as experiment, not belief | | Mystical / Symbolic | Heaven within; imagination as key | Ego inflation or delusion | See all states as reflections of consciousness itself | --- ### 🧩 **Conclusion** Whether “other realms” are *real* or *imaginal*, the **inner experience** of them is undeniably part of the spectrum of consciousness. But — as the wisest contributors implied — the *point* is not escaping this reality but understanding that all realms, experiences, and perceptions arise *within* the same infinite field: **you, awareness itself.** Or, as one mystic put it: > “Before enlightenment, explore other realms. > After enlightenment, realize they were all you.” -
Dodo replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi sir, the nature of reality is also your nature. If its matter, you are also made of matter If its mind, you are also made of mind If its consciousness, you are also made of consciousness Investigate what you are, "know thyself". One thing is true, you are not separate from the universe. ♡ #nonduality #love 😀 -
Leo Gura replied to Zenterus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. The Universe IS your Mind. You have to realize that you are the final arbiter of truth. If you cannot self-validate truth then no one else can for you. How do you know that 1+1=2 is true? You have to take stand on it. There is no way around that. 1) They are stupid. 2) They take mind as only conceptual. Mind is also the physical world. Nonduality means all distinctions collapse. The boundary between world and mind is imaginary. All boundaries are imaginary. "Outside" is imagined by Mind. There is not anything unless you imagine it. If you imagine an outside it will seem like there is an outside. -
I see it everywhere on the internet, on Reddit, in real life and even in this forum. People analyzing the problems we face as a society turning to crying and complaining about the elites or the government being corrupt. The victim mindset is the antithesis of the growth mindset that self-development is based on. We live in an age of basically infinite power where you can empower yourself and have impact globally and instead people are worried about what some other dude is doing with his power? Of course there are systemic issues that need solving but collective crying is not how you achieve that in my humble opinion, our best bets as individuals is to individually empower ourself and increase our consciousness to become powerful agents of change in our social circles, cities and countries. Godspeed and please become stronger today and try to not say a single complaint. It's even an error in epistemology in terms of nonduality because you invalidate your own infinite divine power each time you complain.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nonduality/s/bbj0T0wQ9U figured this would be appreciated by anyone who hasn’t seen it in this community
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Dodo replied to theoneandnone's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If we bring nonduality and Christianity together, we could say that the same awareness that knows the body is the light of life itself, the image of God in which we move and have our being. Of course its paradoxical that we all share the same timeless being, yet we experience different lives, different experiences and stories. Perhaps It's not for any of our singular minds to get, a mystery! Perhaps thats just how the Absolute can experience itself. Might as well just accept that it just Is and to notice the appearance and disappearance of experiences with detatchment, resting as that awareness that knows them. -
Aaron p replied to Hojo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
--- 1. Does the Book of Mormon say religion is created by the devil? Not exactly. The Book of Mormon does criticize corrupt or prideful churches that serve wealth or power instead of God — these are sometimes called “the church of the devil” or “great and abominable church.” But that term doesn’t mean all religion is of the devil. Rather: It draws a contrast between the “church of the Lamb of God” (those who follow Christ sincerely) and the “church of the devil” (any organization or movement that opposes truth and goodness). The text treats this more as a spiritual polarity (truth vs deception) than as literal denominations. So, no — it doesn’t teach that religion itself is demonic, but that religion can be corrupted by ego, greed, and distortion. --- 2. Is Mormonism the most mystical form of Christianity? In many ways, yes — especially compared to mainstream Protestant or Catholic theology. Mormonism teaches a radically participatory view of divinity: > “As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may become.” This is known as the Doctrine of Exaltation — the idea that humans can progress eternally and eventually attain godlike nature through spiritual evolution and union with divine truth. That is remarkably close to mystical nonduality or divinization traditions found in: Eastern Orthodoxy (theosis — becoming one with God’s energies) Sufism (annihilation of self in the divine) Taoism (return to the Tao through alignment with natural truth) Advaita Vedānta (realization of self as Brahman) However, Mormonism keeps a dualist framework (God and humans are distinct beings who can become one in purpose, not literally one essence). So while it echoes mystical ascent, it doesn’t teach absolute nonduality like Taoism or Advaita. --- Summary ❌ The Book of Mormon doesn’t say all religion is of the devil; it condemns corrupt or prideful religion. ✅ Mormonism is arguably the most mystically inclined Christian denomination, affirming direct human-divine transformation and infinite spiritual progression — though it still keeps a distinction between God and creation. -
theoneandnone replied to Zeroguy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Then what do you identify with? And I agree that nonduality has a lot of baggage and dogma tied to it. -
It means that people who speak about nonduality are in lower states of consciousness than what is possible. You are getting too pedantic about words. Words are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that you understand that there exist much higher states of consciousness than your current state. Stop acting like what I am saying is so paradoxical and confusing. It isn't. It is so clear a child could understand me. Ant >> rat >> chimp >> human >> nondual human >> alien >> God level 1 >> God level 2 >> God level 3 >> etc When you make any argument to me, that is coming from your existing state of consciousness. Your arguments have zero validity in higher states. This includes all arguments made by nondualists and Buddhists and enlightened people. Literally nothing you say matters because none of it exists at a higher state. If you do not understand this, I don't know how to help you.
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The problem isnt that people reject your notion of God, the problem is that you are making a category error (under the notions how people who objected to you use the terms relative and absolute). Its like saying that it makes sense to say "something is taller or less tall than tallness itself". Tallness isnt a category that can have the property of being less or more tall. And it isn't a question of open-mindedness or lack of knowledge , its a question of making meaningful sentences. Do you think it makes sense to say something like - "You are not open minded to the fact that tallness is an illusion and you can be taller or smaller than tallness?". Or to say "there are levels of tallness to tallness" And yes, it is a norm that you are using, but what is it? Is it something like 'Sense of realness'? Because that norm can be meaningful and it can make sense when it comes to comparative judgements, and hence why the metaphor "awakening" can be used - you judge something illusory to something more real. This is the issue that multiple people have already pointed out to you (including me) that you are equivocating on the term "absolute" and "relative" and you are using those terms with a different meaning comapared to how others(who objected to you) use it. Again, its not a question of being lost in non-dual dogma, its a question of making meaningful sentences. Like making sentences like "You can go beyond nonduality", what the fuck does the adjective "beyond" can possibly mean there? Because, again, under how people understand the semantics of such statements, its just a meaningless statement that involves a category mistake (and by clarifying what notions you are using behind those statements, you can make it meaningful, but for that you need to bother with clarification). I can give you a couple more statements to give you an intuition pump (demonstrate what our issue is) that all involve category errors and its not a matter of lack of open mindedness or knowledge: 1) Something before time - 'before' is a temporal property and it pressuposses time, its like saying time before time - meaningless, unless you can give such meaning to the term 'before' that is non-temporal. 2) Another one is saying that space is larger than the sun. If by the term 'space' we mean the container within which things are located and extended, then the predicate "small" or "large" cant be applied to it and it becomes a meaningless statement. However, there is a way to make it possibly a meaningful statement, if we engage in equivocation, where by the term 'space' we mean the observable Universe. In that case, the sentence could be cashed out something like "in the container within which things are located and extended, the observable Universe is larger than the sun". 3) There is a location to the container within which all things are located and extended.
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Dodo replied to theoneandnone's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Uhhh... Rupert Spira is just sane... He is my favourite nonduality teacher actually. You will get no bs from him. This alien consciousness stuff is bs, its Daryl all him, he's just playing a role... its just his style of teaching, to his audience. Not everyone is for Rupert Spira retreats, and not everyone is for Bashar. They have different type of audience. I am not interested in Bashar talks, not nondual enough 😀 i like someone saying that the knower and the known are made of the same knowing. Im not into solipsism, im into nonduality. Not talking about one mind, but one consciousness. Minds are collection of thoughts perceptions/conceptions [aka movements of consciousness] within consciousness, mind is not consciousness. -
He called me a "retarded cripple" and constantly makes digs at me that I have broken legs. Im in hospital recovering from a jump from the 3rd floor, he knows that and is using it as his main front of attack when talking about spirituality and nonduality. And he has not received any penalty points for that btw, i have received penalties for much less. He's making personal and petty attacks in both PMs and here. Not once, not twice, multiple times, many occasions, different threads. Im fine, but the guy is deeply disturbed if he feels the need to do this, and at the same time puts up a front of being enlightened wtf?
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Oh don't run now, hiding your posts. Whats done is done. Stop trying to pull me to your level and defeat me with experience. Im in this forum solely for discussing nonduality/truth. If you can't handle that reply to someone else. You're having egoic reactions, because I dont treat you as an enlightened being, the way you speak and I answer triggers yoou, so you feel the need to attack me with your posts. Clear as daylight, ego activation... and im just speaking my truth. Imagine!
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I will guide you to deconstructing the most core aspects of your worldview so that you can experience various facets of God directly for yourself. It is not about pushing ideas upon you but helping you deconstruct all human constructs so the chemical is then free to show you the rest. We will deconstruct time, space, substance, external world, other, birth, death, humanity, nonduality, sanity, etc.
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There exists a supernatural domain of consciousness which is so advanced that no words can communicate it to you. It is like trying to explain human consciousness to an ant. Humans are just ants. Nothing more. Nothing humans understand means anything from a higher POV. This includes nonduality and enlightenment and all human spirituality. All of it is ant stuff. Words can only do so much, which is why I like the idea of chemical retreats. The real work is in the chemicals, not in my talking. The chemical can show you what words never can.
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Introduction My feet are raw: cuts, pine pitch and all My hands are sore: abraised, puffy, and looking like "a job well done" My head is on fire: like an inflamed computer chip still running on overdrive My soul? alive and complete, as is The trip 150ug LSD is consumed orally at 8:30am. It was a hot summer day in northern-central Arizona. I pulled on my forest green pants and a tan-colored hiking shirt. I looked like a forest ranger ready for action. I packed my notebook and strapped on my compass. I noted the tent's proximity to the cliff and the general compass direction I walked so I could find my way back. The weather was 75-95⁰F & partly cloudy. As I maneuvered through heavy pine forest, wiggling around some branches, bending others, I got the feeling that something massive was about to happen. I kept my composure; the day had just begun. Eventually I hit a clearing with a new view beyond the cliffs. I set-up my collapsible tri-pod chair a safe distance from the cliffs to contemplate, journal, and be. Dozens of ants scuttled by. At first I feared they were of the aggressive type. Not fired red, but a more brown color. Not one climbed on me. I realized 90+% of nature is chill with you if you are still and relaxed around it. As I stared off the cliff (into the abyss) I began to feel deeper into my body. Initial thoughts included gratitude for Julien Blanc's trauma healing program I just went through, including the new friends I made in the process. Also my reverence for natural beauty and the fact I developed enough self-trust to trip in nature, near 200-foot sandstone cliffs, a 10-minute hike from my friend. It was feeling and a more realistic kind of joy: one with a healthy dose of underlying discomfort. Discomfort in the sense of the hot weather and possibly of encounters with wildlife. But the only wildlife that approached were flies, who I recognized as organic robot-like alien creatures with as much reason to exist as other life. They exude their own natural beauty. And they're even friendly and chill as long as you're not swatting at them constantly. Behind me, I heard a digging sound. I turned and focused with the gaze of a hawk letting his telescoping vision work for him. I saw a couple of small shrubs get yanked into the ground. A mole rat popped its head up. I felt giddy, but stayed quiet. I wanted to leave it be, but also go chase it (later in the day I would chase lizards across the campsite like a 8 year old boy, unabashed). When the heat of the sun kicked up a notch and the LSD began taking more effect, I jumped up and explored my newly charted territory one last time. Then I realized my water supply was already low and felt the call of camp. "It's time to find the tent". I recalled my compass direction and took a straight-shot back. But not without some fear. I felt a literal sensation of 'overcoming' in the pit of my being. "Holy shit. Its just me out here and getting back to camp is ON ME." I felt dizzy and a little like a survival dude who's wondering if he'd made a wrong move. I smiled in the face of it and moved ahead with strength and focus. My body filled with chemicals I'd associate with discipline and healthy fear. I knew how to get back but felt fear like I was enduring physical survival from scratch. Oddly I enjoyed it. Suddenly? The tent I was looking for quite literally popped out of things air a good 50 feet in front of me. A gigantic grin blossomed on my face. I felt like I'd just gone through the native American tradition of going into the woods as a rite of passage to become a man (though i didn't find a totem animal) and was now arriving to stand with the other men. I approached the tent, slowly unzipped it, and entered. My friend was pretending to sleep; how cute. I got cozy and prepared for the fast-approaching peak of the trip. It felt like a tender moment was about to unfold. So I lied down, eyes closed. Out of nowhere, I saw a pink image on a black background. It looked like a vagina made of vibrant desert flowers. The vagina then started to curve into itself, with the flowers getting consumed beneath the lips. It was insanely beautiful, and I became overtaken in total rapture by the sight of it. As the image of the pink desert vagina faded, my body became ultra-relaxed. Then, it started to spasm. Uncontrollably. Completely spontaneous. I allowed myself to relax further. And of course, the spasming increased. I began feeling an energy that I associated to the desert flower vagina image. It felt so incredibly right. Then something unbelievable happened. It's honestly difficult to explain using conventional language... But in a nutshell, my body form of consciousness and my mind/soul/spirit form of consciousness started to function as totally separate entities. While my body was trembling and flailing about my mind was 'talking' and imagining whatever it wanted. Nothing in particular, but I could tell it was functioning autonomously, similar to musical instruments playing completely different parts in a larger symphony. As this imminent physical experience went on, a great selflessness washed over me. I turned to my friend and in a mumbling voice said, "This is what de-traumatization looks like." I decided the theme of this trip would be about healing & reclaiming. I'd been working on somatic experiencing for the past 2 months and this felt like the climax of all of my hard work. Once my body settled down, my friend said he was gonna go to his van and chop up some honeydew. He came back with this insane, monster platter of honeydew melon, sliced horizontally in a triangle, covered in honey with a pile of cashews at the base. I freaked out like a kid at the candy store when he brought it in. I ate a few pieces, but felt full quick (usually eat only half the amount if food I normally eat when on LSD). Moments later, I found honey all over the inside of my right arm. I proceeded to laugh 10x harder than was necessary (just kidding it was so necessary haha). After washing off my arm, the heat and vibrations of the forest suggested to me that I de-clothe. Outside the tent ready to explore again, I stripped down all the way to sunbathe for a moment—standing up. I quickly realized I'd better shield the delicate areas. So, I threw my underwear back on. I ran through the forest, in the camping area, hopping from rock to rock. I felt as light as a cloud. My balance was insanely good too. My buddy grabbed my attention and said I should try the slackline. "That's such a hippy activity I never really got into," I thought. But in that moment all I could think was "Why the fuck not, I wanna have some fun!" We set it up and I remember getting up there and falling over and over again. Eventually I got bored of trying to walk it and began swinging on it. I'd sit on it, fall back, then cling to it with my leg and hands, swinging like a monkey the way I did when I was a little kid on the playground (I used to be one of the most skilled kids of playground equipment back then). Goofing around like this made me feel like a little kid again and like I was living the dream I'd always wanted to take back. I felt so incredibly happy. But not in a "high" way... just fulfilled. Next thing I remember is I was far enough beyond the peak of the trip I could walk on the tilted sandstone slabs that made up the canyon cliff-faces in a safe and explorative way. To my surprise i found mini cactus plants that I didn't know existed this far north in Arizona. Me and my friend explored around. He dug out a cave and we kept throwing rocks off the cliff (classic stupid fun things you do). After that I went back up to the forest floor, lied flat, and gave the earth a full-body hug. As I was coming down, the sun began to set. Me and my friend went to his van to make some dinner. Still, I kept splashing my face with water because of the heat. My hands and feet began to feel hot from all of the raw interaction with nature I'd had that day (barefoot and all). I slipped on socks and sandals to honor myself a little bit. A job well done in meeting nature raw and honest today. Indeed. But now it was time to balance it out. I chopped veggies for my friend and he sautéed the mushrooms, green beans, zucchini, and eggs into a masterpiece. I tasted every flavor and how they interacted with each other, like a Mozart symphony. A strange part about this trip is I felt so selfless it's as if I was free from the human mind and even the idea that I was tripping (as wild as it sounds). Everything was just consciousness. No physics and not even the idea of metaphysics. Only pure, raw being. This trip wasn't just another weak-ass, protected 'museum' dose' in an A/C controlled studio. Rather, I embraced the forest, including the theme of trauma, as a general rule of nature and life. I saw this trip as a healing experience. Not pleasant nor dark, just simply a rigorous, focused process. It also felt like a more intense dose of rugged exploration and nomadic living. I could feel the beauty of nature and also the harshness of it; I was reminded of the necessity of modern medicine and basics like clothing, clean shelter, and electricity to sustain higher baselines of consciousness as I go about life. The rawness element of this trip penetrated my soul fast and deep: the LSD accelerated a typical immersion in nature that would take 1-2 weeks to achieve (I've camped in Mongolia and Alaska before and usually immersion takes a while). I didn't sleep easy that night, but I did learn something. My feet, hands, and head were all inflamed. So even though my core body temperature was perfectly stable, the inflammation kept me up until the coolness of night balanced it out. It all made me realize I need to protect myself and honor my highly sensitive person (HSP) nature even further than before. This is something I'm going to get more serious about, and I do not care what people think. Trip rankings Depth was a 8/10 Spiritual rigor was definitely a 10/10 Preparedness was a 4/10 (heat and too little care to extremities) Overall something like a 7/10 Definitely would recommend if you're adventurous (and a little crazy) like me. Metaphysical themes encountered Strange loops, infinite holarchy, infinite nonduality (every duality in every domain reconciled), radical and intelligent selflessness. ••• Dear reader, Have you tripped in nature before? If so how was it? What came up? Or, have you used psychs to confront trauma in a direct manner before?
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Mellowmarsh replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nondual awareness doesn’t make sense. Sense comes on contact with an object in other words a thought. Aware of being aware. That’s a duality. That is the sense of self. It is pointless trying to make sense of nonsense nonduality which is a flawed belief, because it's only half of the story. I have no idea why more emphasis is placed on the death of self, but yes, this death can be recognised as a thing known, but life still goes on living after enlightenment for no one. -
Franz_ replied to Davino's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Miguel1 hey,can you tell me what's wrong with nonduality? -
Duality is thinking it is Nonduality. Duality is knowing you know. And this knowing is always going to be about a knower and what knowing knows. I know I know nothing is identical to I know I know everything. When one thing is known, everything is known.
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Someone here replied to Princess Arabia's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Princess Arabia there is really not much to be said about this topic other than to say I'm everything and no thing ..located everywhere and no where . The logic of this is as follows : there is no where in infinity . Existence itself is happening nowhere . And there is no real boundaries between any apparent two things in existence (nonduality 101) . Therefore "I AM" everything. And everything is infinite and is happening nowhere . -
So pain is not consciousness alluvassudden. You always cherrypick what you're nondual about. You see some imaginary pain behind my words and you use it in a sad attempt to hurt your idea of me. My man drop the act of being enlightened it does you no good. Milk that is poisoned looks like milk, but you shouldnt drink it. Be careful what milk you consume 🧐. You cant paint everything with a broad brush like you're doing. Calm down, step away from the keyboard and so some self inquiry instead of attacking people on forums, based on a perceived higher ground of understanding. You drank poisoned milk. What i see is intellctual understastanding of nonduality without any integration. What I see is nonduality of words. You want to win arguments, not know the Truth.
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Absolutely. I really try to figure out just how one can become more resilient to stress. I lead and train the team I work with at the office - and it is HIGH stress. A revolving door for people who cannot do construction from the back end and handle it. It is a big one for me - I can only come to the conclusion it is nature & nurture. I think by nature I am confident and resilient - toward the higher end of the spectrum. I always took this to be a product of my experience; I have seen some evil shit. Been through evil shit. And have a massive capacity for stress. I used to labour under the assumption this arose in me because of hard challenges in my past. Each horrible thing I experienced very much prepared me for the next challenge. And so on and so forth. Until I had such a high capacity for stress, I struggle to even comprehend it myself - especially retrospectively. And so, because I overcame so much and became stronger - I went through life assuming anyone who faced challenges could reframe and grow from it. Siphon out the positive from any bad experience and learn the lessons to be had there. I projected this onto others. A 'golden shadow'. I truly believed everyone could do this and boy oh boy was I HARD on people when they fell short. Then I begun working with my sister. She went through similar trauma as me, the same environment. She was exposed to slightly less horror I will say. But she has no capacity for stress. She suffers from anxiety attacks with only a slight push. She isn't able to see positive from past experiences unless they made her happy in totality. She constantly worries how she will be perceived. Worries for her safety - won't walk down the street in the dark. Worries about how a cashier will think of her order - similar to your friends pathology around going to McDonalds in the dark. Bit long winded - but in the example above, it illustrates how 2 family members can be exposed to the same trauma and walk away with totally different understandings and lessons. And our responses could not be more different - I have no regret and am stronger as a result; she feels she has had an unfair and bad life, and has been weakened. Our minds did totally different things with the experience... all in the mind. And indeed, how strange our minds are! I can tell you though - my sister lets our past define her. And define her future. I do not. I don't even think on it. Unless to reveal a story such as above to illustrate a point. I have no attachment to my past. I recognize it as a story about someone. It doesn't limit me. I have no attachment there... So I can see how spirituality has altered my mind and how I have been able to reframe my experience in a way my sister simply cannot. And she is not interested in spirituality, nonduality, inquiry - any of it. Looping back to @Someone here - I think he could be in a great position to tackle the stress of addiction head on, because he is in a relatively good position (from what I gather, I do not know all of his circumstances) to do so. He can build resilience to stress while he has stability in other areas. Because if there is one thing I know in life - it comes to fuck you in the arse with no condom in a sudden and shocking way. Your whole existence and way of being can be deleted at the drop of a hat.
