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Day 2, 3, 1, 2: 5/10 Nofap news: I did a normal wank without fantasizing, and im suffering for it, the suffering that comes from me relapsing is being shown very clearly and it's a good thing, but also a bad thing: I don't want to blame that "this is an ego backlash" anymore but It feels like my ego has been resisting my schedule for a month nonstop. There are so many things that go into my schedule being successful. If I don't meditate I can't start my day properly, if I don't go to sleep in the right time I won't wake up with enough motivation to meditate, if I wake up late I will screw up my eating schedule, and if I eat poorly it all goes to hell! Do you get what im saying? The reason why Im not posting regularly is that im stuck in this cloud of problems to solve! And im trying and trying, backsliding and backsliding, fail after fail without success, as I keep falling into the same traps over and over again! I don't want to live this way, I need the strength to create momentum just for once, and I will never give up on that! I can't give up. I'll figure out a way. Maybe im just burning myself out... The first thing in the morning is my Kriya routine, and its always hard to get the ass on the mat, especially when I wake up late, the ego resists it every time, but as I finally get down, I always discover its hidden bliss 5 minutes into the routine, but I do of course forget that until the next morning. It feels like im living only for the Kriya these days. The point is that Im always approaching my routine with a mastery mindset. I am always trying my very best every time I sit down on the mat, and I try to be as aware as possible during the sessions and I feel like the awareness always improves the routine! In the same way, as im approaching my addictions with awareness and that really helps me to see how much suffering im creating for myself and how the addiction affects me, ultimately leading to the addiction kind of getting erased from my subconscious as I get more and more aware of what it acutally does and how it actually works! But ofcourse, my ego resists this awareness and indirectly robs me of my strength to actually do the work! If I won't do the Kriya, or if I wont exercise, I will more probably relapse into PMO, and the ego knows this. As you seem problems are very complicated and I have a tough time solving them. But the to have ups you gotta have downs and I know that the real breaktrough is near. I just gotta keep on trying and soon ill grow into becoming a different, more mature person. I have grown significantly since I started this journey.

In a sense you can think of the indulgence of pleasure being reactionary. Being overly fascinated with objective experiences. Being influenced and overly focused on what memory has put together as the subject & object in experience. Implicitly identifying with the contents of thought and pursuing or trying to re-experience particular experiences and avoid others. Hence pleasure and pain are one and the same. Resistance to what-is. Resistance to an already inherent peace, bliss, sense of wholeness. It’s just ego always looks to objects of experience. With these objects rises the subject. So the already inherent joy/beauty of being is missed/overlooked.

Pleasure comes from a need to quench, Bliss comes from needing nothing ?

Don't try to manipulate the meditation, then you're not allowing. Meditation is all about becoming 110% present and allowing all feelings negative + positive, don't cling to the feelings or thoughts, just allow, allow, allow, and watch the emotions and thoughts pass again, notice the impermanence. Keep doing this over and over again, and a sense of general bliss will flow over you

There is nothing to win. Getting a job, having children, a house, a nice car, chasing temporarily pleasurable experiences - all this is pathetic. Become conscious of the non-dual One (God). All of reality will be understood and you will get your happiness. Then live life like before, consciously. Play the person character playfully, joyfully, consciously. Have your pleasurable experiences, just don't identify with them. They come and go. Find and become conscious of that which never goes. Be in metaphysical and epistemological bliss 24/7.

@Nahm happiness because happiness is our true nature? Perhaps bliss?

Consciousness of the non-dual One, awakening to the true nature of You as pure Consciousness (God), and the direct conscious illumination of ignorance (ego and person) - that is metaphysical and epistemological bliss beyond imagination, beyond any experience. You can get powerful non-dual states from psychedelics too, which can be as blissful as non-psychedelic induced states of consciousness. I like to use both.

As for MDMA’s similarity to enlightenment—I am not sure I can remember that. No doubt spiritual paths can connect us with…feelings of lucid intoxication similar to MDMA. I wonder why we are not always in a state of constant bliss, clarity, insight and love—like heaven on earth? To be so mentally clear, and so full of love…I think it is the same for MDMA and other spirituals: Goodness and Beauty ARE there all the time. Maybe people are aware of different aspects of IT at different times; then sometimes a person becomes more aware. May the amazement go on forever, as we enter the ever-greater and ever-greater. I wonder whether some lack of pleasure is unnecessary? Probably yes. I think back on my spiritual experiences…and my MDMA experiences…and the memories remind me to love and contemplate. I recently re-watched the fantastic episode about taking responsibility one’s own happiness—“How to Stop Being a Victim- The #1 Reason You Are Stuck” … that is such a good episode, and it helped me a blockage of misery.

Yes, rapture and bliss in Jhana is comparable. @Serotoninluv My first ~10 MDMA trips had incredible magic and love to them and didn't cause any comedown the next day at all, in fact, I've always had a good afterglow for some time after. The last few times when I took it, there was no magic, little to no increase in empathy, two days of low mood afterward and this was after taking over 8 months break so I see no point to take it anymore. I think neurotoxicity with MDMA is a non-issue if used responsibly. Even though something had to change in my brain I see no negative side effects.

Great topic! A common trap is spiritual bypassing. For example, because I didn’t want to deal with “real” life problema (school, work, relationships etc), I started to do some very long meditation sessions (4 hours a day). Deep down, I wanted to numb my emotions, not deal with life, and live in eternal bliss. The result of this was terrible...

I took some powerful stuff yesterday evening and smoked some strong weed along with it. I was determined to figure out this non-dual conscious One which I have been conscious of for the past 7 months or so. So I did this and just sat, waiting for something to happen. Then it hit me so strongly, I became fully conscious of the non-dual One. The first thing I became conscious of was that it was me, it was none other than me!! It was fully alive and conscious. I asked, are you everything? And in an instant, I just fully consciously cognized that yes indeed it is literally everything! It looked trough my aware eyes and looked at the objects around me and made it directly clear that everything It was looking at was It. Looking trough my eyes with love and pure awareness, I saw It as Myself and in Myself. At last, I finally became fully conscious that It is totally formless, invisible. And it has to be that way. It is the formless which manifests all form. It all happened by a flash, in an Instant, and I saw that it was the formless one who took on all form around me. It lasted for about 20 minutes more, then it subsided gradually. I was in tears after this episode, in shock and in metaphysical bliss. The understanding is regained completely due: - Form is formlessness. They are one and the same. - Everything is It. All objects, all energy, all matter, all human beings. All is It. - It is none other than I and You. Completely, fully. - It exists. The non-dual One (God, Consciousness, Absolute Infinity) exists, absolutely.

With the mind calm and relaxed and the Self discerned, the mind is immersed in a kind of immense larder, a huge treasury of fat -- a subterranean store of rich provision, satisfaction. It's like a borderless but breathable block of jello. You are a figure in that jello made from that very same jello. That jello is what is wanted, is what is desired. And you are surrounded on all sides by it, effortlessly. Realize your jello-ness! It can simply rest there in that totality, that fullness, with "events" "happening" frictionlessly within it, mere images projected in that cool sweetness. Only it should not be tempted back by thoughts, various delectable offers to use the energy it now has towards one cause or effort or another. These are like Siren songs... "Should I do this? How about that? Oh that looks good/productive/tempting/wise/interesting." To all of these ideas it should remain relaxed, with its eyes "half-closed' mentally/figuratively speaking... unaffected, tranquil, simply resting in the richness of its environs. It is much like learning to carry a pot of water on your head wherever you go. Whatever happens, don't let the pot fall, don't let a drop of what's in it spill. Or in reality it's actually the kind of opposite of this, because carrying the pot is not a particular activity, it is a refraining from the activity of being diverted by various thoughts/goals/intentions/desires. Let them occur, if they occur, spontaneously and involuntarily. And if they occur, pay them no need, no mind, no attention. They do not require reprimand. And if the bliss comes, refrain from comment on it. "I am enjoying this" <-- one is already out of it. And again, if that happens, no need for reprimand. Simply drop the thought. This Self is the anchor in the changing environment, the one thing that is both “in the dream” and not of it. It's like something which appears in a dream but is actually in reality as well. On one side it's a dream object; on the other side it is not in the realm of objects at all. It's like some kind of anchor which one can hold by letting go of all other things. And don't think about what's good thought or bad thought. That's a distracting thought in itself. That will lead you down a wild goose chase. Good and bad and should and should not are dangerous distractions.

That is nice but the problem is not to have a glimpse of what you are talking about but to conduct your existential thread towards the ultimate. By existential thread I mean the point of view that stays during the process of birth and death, we can call it soul for common understanding. By ultimate I mean That thing that we are all searching for, that which will settle us for the rest of eternity. Not the experiencial eternity like heaven, hell or eternal bliss but actual eternity. Time is illusory so is actual eternity since there is only this moment so it would be more proper to say that the ultimate is this moment getting to absolute stillness. To stabilize to absolute stillness one important step is to be able to die properly, meaning consciously and blissfully or ecstatically, not panicking or trying to get one more breath. It is unclear whether 5meo helps to that end. Martin Ball seemed pretty advanced but you saw how he panicked when the system went in a certain direction, and that was after he surrendered to permanent 5meodmt effect (as he claims) that would have rendered many mad or dysfunctional. Had he died in this state of sleepless sleepiness it is unclear what it would have meant for his existential thread.

@Aakash Yah. This knowing fucked the ego, hard. LITERALLY, thoughts/beliefs dictate the reality experienced. LITERALLY. Existence is an infinite quantum field of possibilities and potentialities of all the distinct realities that can be created in this moment--based on the ego's vibrational offering, i.e., the thoughts and beliefs "you" are presently replaying in "your" head right NOW, "picks-out" one of those distinct realities to be experienced by "you," right NOW. This includes the small and big things in "your" life. “[T]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts." —Werner Heisenberg Perception of "facts" changes the so-called facts themselves. This is well known in Quantum Mechanics (yes, I did study Quantum Physics in University). Even down to dis-ease... If it is true that reality is a giant mind, then ALL dis-ease is 100% psychosomatic, because there is NO physical "body"--the "body" itself is a part of the giant mind, or it itself is made of mind-stuff, and so it is subject to "your" vibrational offering, your thoughts, just as the rest of the reality. "When your chronic attention is upon things you do not want, while the chronic attention of your inner being is upon things that you do want, overtime you cause a vibrational separation between you and your inner being, and that is what all illness is—separation, caused by your choice of thoughts between you, and your inner being." —Abraham If you believe something is good for "you," it is. If you believe something is harmful for "you," it is. This is why diet and nutrition and medicine will NEVER find consensus. The root is the mind. Belief dictates the "rules" of reality. Collective, and individual egoic beliefs. Therefore, the rules are VERY malleable. Metaphysics rules over physics. This conversation here? "I" attracted it into this present experience because "I" wanted to know how the fuck to reconcile law of attraction with spiritual enlightenment, or at least, feel the temporary comfort knowing that I'm not the only one that sees this, and my vibrational offering was positively enough aligned to allow that distinct reality to be in "my" experience; and it is, right now! Sure enough I logged in and saw this new post in perfect timing. Yet, this is just consciousness conversing with consciousness about consciousness... So to sum it up: The fabric of reality is LITERALLY thoughts/beliefs. "Your" movie is 100% a reflection of the ego and its perceived doings in thinking. When the ego realizes this, it's in Mini-God-Mode. Creation becomes deliberate, focused. The ego was always creating its own heaven or hell, but now it can be wielded deliberately by the ego. EVERYTHING becomes known to be possible. If you can imagine it, it's possible. And then it becomes no surprise why stories of turning water to wine, or feeding masses of people sourced from relatively morsels of foods exist. Siddhis or spiritual-psychic powers become possible... After all, EVERYTHING is possible. I know of a close friend personally who can manipulate objects, i.e., can make ordinary objects levitate. The only question is: does the ego desire a distinct, imagined reality, and if so, does its vibrational offering match the vibration of that desired, distinct reality? Can it pick it out into "material" manifestation? The enlightened masters can warp their reality, because vibrationally they match those realities, yet, ironically, they have little to no ego/desire to begin with to even care to manifest such things. They are perfectly at peace and content with divine manifestations that already are. This seriously fucked "me." "I've" already manifested desires, instantly, shooting stars, I can feel people's emotions now with uncanny accuracy, kundalini rising symptoms (uncontrollable convulsions, sweating, diet changes, etc), have literally witnessed miracles of problems resolving themselves that can only really be explained as by magic, and "I" can consciously influence people's behaviors and their moods/attitudes... "I" don't say this to gloat, only that, this is fucking crazy and yet I see so few people talking about this. The Kybalion described this as Principle #1 of The Seven Hermetic Principles: "THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM, or "THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental." I'm pretty sure this book is Leo's recommended reading list! Here's an excerpt for quick reference and summary of the principle: Source: http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php?chapter=II Law of Attraction is a spiritual tool for purification for the masses--it has the potential to enable egos to consciously and quickly manifest their desires (e.g. cars, sex, money, etc) so that they can burn through them and get on to the good stuff: spirituality, more specifically, permanent bliss, joy, peace, and love. Eternal happiness, rather than wavering happiness in the world of waves. Law of Attraction IS the Metaphysical law that like thoughts manifests like experiences. In the conscious ego, however, this tool can be used for a quicker annihilation, because it can deliberately use this law to attract all the necessary circumstances (e.g. environment, guru, money, etc) that will enable liberation. Law of Attraction is the master key to master Creation in the conscious ego. Life literally becomes a giant sandbox in the conscious ego that has realized this. It's like being the film director of your own film. I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this! I'm surprised there isn't much discussion about Law of Attraction on this page, although that might just be a manifestation as a result of my own beliefs... Won't go there. I want Leo to create a video on Law of Attraction, now that his understandings of metaphysics have advanced vastly and beautifully! I am so appreciative of all his work. And if this ego is a vibrational match to that desired reality, it WILL manifest. It is a law of the universe! "If this time/space reality has within it the ability to inspire a desire within you, it is our absolute promise that this time/space reality has the ability to yield you a full and satisfying manifestation of that same desire. It is Law."—Abraham And I'll leave this, what I thought at least, was a great explanation/reconciliation between spiritual enlightenment and law of attraction. Enjoy Source: https://www.inwardquest.com/questions/42477/can-the-law-of-attraction-and-eckhart-tolle-teachings-be-reconciled Cheers & Love!

@Serotoninluv Bliss and suffering can happen at the same time. You feel blissful and ecstatic, then the next minute your feeling anxious/annoyed. Peace is the opposite of suffering.

@Zakee hinnant Great. So it seems clear at this point your mind-body is not in nonstop bliss. I would recommend increasing body awareness of the emotional dynamics playing out in the body. That is not the hand exercise or self inquiry (I've watched all three videos). The video on body awareness is very different than those things. To me, it sounds like deeper issues are rising to the surface. It can be extremely difficult to deconstruct and work through. If you have access to a social worker / psychologist, it may help.

It sounds like your mind-body is ungrounded and confused. You just started a thread telling us that you have been in nonstop bliss for weeks. Thus, the hate you are receiving is giving you bliss. Yet, here you seem to suggest the hate is bothersome to you and it is not blissful. I would recommend getting in touch with your mind-body. Leo made a nice video in this area

@Aquarius Yea, perhaps he needs to get in touch with body sensations and feelings. I've had experiences when bliss got too intense - yet then it becomes uncomfortable and is no longer blissful. A few nights ago, I was laughing so hard; it was wonderfully blissful. Yet then the laughter got even more intense and my abdomen started hurting. I couldn't stop laughing and I wanted to, but couldn't make it stop. Then I had trouble breathing and anxiety and panic arose. At this point, it's no longer blissful. It sounds like his mind-body is experiencing a mixture of bliss and discomfort. Yet he is saying that is not the case, that it is all good feelings.

It sounds like the bliss has stopped and you are now feeling anxiety. So, problem solved - you are not trapped in eternal bliss (you are now freaking out). Or. . . You are still in a blissful state and experience freaking as blissful. So, no problem. I don't understand the problem your mind-body is trying to solve.

Why do you want it to stop? bliss feels bad? It's like you became temporary enlightened. Enjoy it. Be careful with doctors, they may stuff you with anti-psychosis drugs. You can't tell to a doctor you had a kundalini awakening or similar. There is no such thing for medicine...

Yeah, how could one know, who would be there to tell you? But it seems though you can get so enlightened, you are always beyond birth and death, which occur in the micro moments of life already, that's in my view what is meant by it, 'Your mind is the cycle of births and deaths.' So it possible you can get so enlightened you are in bliss 24/7, no sense of doer ship, plunging into nothingness at will, non-attachment, unending love, what Ramana talked about his whole life, in the presence of hoards of people being and seeing him 24/7 Waking sleep, also what it's called, having the peace of deep sleep consciousness at all times: Q: For the jnani then, there is no distinction between the three states of mind? (of sleeping, dreaming and waking) Ramana: How can there be, when the mind itself is dissolved and lost in the light of consciousness? For the jnani all the three states are equally unreal. But the ajnani is unable to comprehend this, because for him the standard of reality is the waking state, whereas for the jnani the standard of reality is reality itself. This reality of pure consciousness is eternal by its nature and therefore subsists equally during what you call waking, dreaming and sleep. To him who is one with that reality there is neither the mind nor its three states and, therefore, neither introversion nor extroversion. His is the ever–waking state, because he is awake to the eternal Self; his is the ever–dreaming state, because to him the world is no better than a repeatedly presented dream phenomenon; his is the eversleeping state, because he is at all times without the 'body–am–I' Consciousness.

Want are you looking for exactly? You want to stop being in bliss?

Guys I’m 17 and I been meditating for 4 hours or more everyday and I had my awakening January and in February I woke up with bliss and For 5 days straight I been in bliss and I’m still in bliss now ever since February 7th what is happening I’m freaking out and I don’t even need techniques nomore even if I meditate for 5 minutes it’s still there after ?

Jana Dixon has several chapters near the end of her book dealing with Diet and supplements in relation with Kundalini. ,,,,,,It is very important to realize that even though there is massive free radical production with the rising of kundalini, and there is cell die-off because of this, the body uses this mechanism to restructure itself. So the temporary loss of functions should not be seen as pathological, but should be celebrated as part of the Metamorphic process. This "non-pathological stance" is very vital to grasp. This death and resurrection process may seem like an illness to the conventional mindset, but we must learn to see the Whole of it--the die-offs, the loss of cortical function, the pain, the bliss--we must see all of it in the larger picture of the evolution of humanity as a whole. It may appear like I am contradicting myself creating a protocol to prevent severe free radical damage, supporting hormones and neurotransmitters...why not let the body completely exhaust itself and cannibalize itself...doesn't that mean greater evolution? No, the dissolution occurs only in the service of greater order. We must simultaneously preserve the new order while supporting the old to fall away. The bottom line is protect your membranes, build your enzyme and mineral resources, repair your receptors, keep your blood nonacidic and get plenty of raw plant life into your system. Then you have the potential to rise to a higher homeostasis. Higher homeostasis, is to ride the dragon without falling off. ,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,If undergoing an awakening the two most important things to consider even if all else is ignored are: 1. Faith and 2. Antioxidants!!! from chapter Higher Homeostasis http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php@story=HigherHomeostasis.html

When there is no self,there is no other....All is One. When the I-self no longer arises creating the illusion of a "me" apart from "other".. All is One. "All is One" is perfectly stated as .. Existence-Consciousness-Bliss (Sat-Chit- Ananda)