Search the Community

Most of you probably heard about David Hawkings or even read his book, Power vs. Force, he's a MD PhD that has awakened somewhere mid life. Since he's coming from an academic background, he has a scientific interpretation to this experience and good explanations to consciousness and the process raising it.

Some of you must also realize that they are not ready YET. If there is huge functional issue(s) in your life, work on that first. You might get an awakening experience and totally pissing your life away after that (or maybe you're doing it right now ?), by simply thinking there is nothing else to do in life than to realize your enlightement. You would be like these spiritual seekers, chasing experience after experience, doing nothing else from their gifts, not even trying to be a benevolent force (which is very egotistical if you are conscious that you could). There is a term for these kind of people, junkies. That's exactly what you're doing right now if you feel you absolutely NEED to be awakened, which is not suprising, since the ego is a infinite void seeking to fill itself (which he cannot). Don't stop meditating, it has too much health benefit, but stop the search, STOP THE SEARCH, If your mind isn't rock solid, and if you don't have total independancy in your life, just stop.

The mind can have the tendency to jugde. A thought will arise in awareness for example, "That guy is a bum!" "Thats a ugly lady" lol And so on. You have to give up judging! Because if you judge people you can't be free. Judging is something the mind is taught to do. Its not really you. This whole thing is magic! Do you not agree? This whole thing we call life. Don't judge life, don't judge yourself. Be free. Live in the moment! Fall in love with it. It is your devine will. To love eachother, to be vulnerable with each other & not always compare and compete with one another. I accept you as you are whether your the most egocentric person going or the most awakened being. We are all this magic. Regardless. Love now! Not the word or idea of now but look in front of you. That!

I think here lies the problem waveintheocean. This is the root of your idea of being. I state that I am Awareness, but we discussed already, that it doesn't mean its there like being something (like with victim and raper). Thinking you are nothing, is the polarized way of therefor being something (or everything). And this is based on a wrong view. Why? Because the law of everything states, everything is temporary in nature, nothing is permanent... Yet you can't there for be a single thing out of anything due to that its empty in nature. Then, due to that this is the case, one state: I am therefor nothing. Which is still the same attachment to eternalness. (The belief someone is something (everything) is nihilism, and the belief someone is nothing, is eternalism. Its the middle way to take, Awareness. This belief of being something or nothing is thus an absolute trap) (and a classical one, the trap of extremes). The trap of something and nothing is a dangerous long cycle. Awareness, and polarity can be compared with the sun. The sunlight is always sunlight and everything transforms due to it. However without this sunlight, what will be living on earth? The sunlight or its warmth is not something, nor is it nothing, just like with the body and awareness. Nothing, can't govern, nor can something govern anything. Awareness can and does govern, yet not being entangled with the process of this all, the warmth of the sun isn't something, nor nothing. And to go to the bottom of it, one states due to thinking one is nothing, that awareness, isn't nothing, therefor it must be something (everything). And because its something its temporary in nature. (Nihilism, you the small particle in the big ocean of everything) Yes, this is like a splinter in ones mind. Now you get the part about nothing. Nothing is permanent in nature... This with, everything being temporary in nature. This means, Nothing IS permanent, but Nothing has not a permanent nature (it would then be Awareness which is not nothing) (nor has it a temporary nature, nothing isn't everything, because its not temporary in nature). Awareness is permanent in ITS nature whatever subtle transcendental nature that might be. And this is the trap where many seem to fall for... Eternalism (being permanent, which is nothing). Then you get, oh, we should use the word infinity instead, but its the same attachment to eternalism, the same extreme. Then Awareness in this view, through these glases of attachment to eternlalism, becomes a sort of something, even though temporary in nature, one settles with the fact that one is nothing after all, always beyond, there for infinity. This surely is a splinter indeed, and I definitely hope it is highlighted clearly now. This view, and accumulation of thinking being nothing, while one isn't nothing or something, leads to immorality being chaotic and restless as a result. Surely now became clear that I never stated that I am everything (nor nothing), not in any of my posts anywhere on this forum. (prove me wrong) and that this too is highlighted clearly now. I hope now became clear that this is based on ones beLIEf that one is everything by being nothing, which is eternalism. (Awareness is all pervasive, can't be compared, so can't be insignificant, that would be like telling the sunlight and its warmth is insignificant to life on earth). Some other points: "Because I am attaining Awareness... I can only see one. And the only difference is: Is one attached to ones desires or not. " I work hard in Attaining Awareness, and I am guaranteed to succeed. All signals are clear due to that. I have not yet attained complete Awareness, but am completely anchored, well established in Dharma, seeing one. Which means that only Karmic results are playing itself out, when naturally coming to its end, then I attained the Supreme. However this is tricky because I could end as no longer coming for a rebirth, this I prevent and will prevent consciously, therefor, I have choosen the path of Buddhisattva, which in turn, if you want to know, will take eons before I reach the stage of becoming a fully enlightened self awakened Buddha. I never stated that I attained enlightenment anywhere in my posts. However, I am doing my duty, teaching, writing (many including yourself post wonderful questions for the book I write). Doing ones duty that is in accordance with ones core, is better then meditation, due to that one can learn to be free of the result of his actions. If one would do someone else job, although perfect, one will be attached to the fruits of result. So better to make countless mistakes doing the job that resonates with your own heart. This is of course apart from the subject presented here. That someone does or does not yet attained the supreme, doesn't mean one can't learn from such a being. Please understand, if someone is clearly less wise then yourself, refrain from this person if not being able to guide from your heart yet. If someone is equally wise then yourself, one should together work on advancing spiritually. And if someone is clearly wiser then yourself, stay in touch and learn from him. One could state from someone who is attaining Awareness, that one has not yet Attained awareness, but have had its fruit already, and works and lives without sin, free from the fruits of good and bad regarding ones duty. Such a being is anchored, well established in the Dharma. Saying that one must have reached ultimate enlightenment, and then only then one might teach about enlightenment, is utterly nonsense, such thinking brings no luck of any kind. And due that this teachings are about enlightenment, coming from one that is well established, is guaranteed to succeed, there is not a trace of pretending. Do you yourself honestly think, that of all my posts here on this website, you would think would come from a pretender?? Someone who has fully attained enlightenment, is much greater then I am, if you find this already great, surely you havent have any clue what a fully realized one is like. Nah, not quite true. The concepts shared here, and the techniques shared, are the teacher. You yourself must become the way. A spiritual teacher or guide, is someone throwing you on yourself, and when accepting and working hard, this going inside, and outside, and back within, rubs ones mind clean like two hands rubbing each other until both hands are clean. Regarding being everything or nothing, or being nothing therefor everything: Refrained from both extremes of being; one walks the middle path that is Awareness.

@jse Please stay working on yourself. You still havent learned your lesson: Dear Jse, You miss again the point, Jse. So I will again explain it to you. The dhammapada, is well studied by me, and its examples are good to share. I live up to those examples, secluded from unwholesome deeds, sense indulgence, concentrated on Awareness and I am awakened to my true duty in accordance with my True Self. However, you seem to miss the point again. Your aim should not be me, but the subject that is presented. If you find it misinformation, support this with decent evidence. Refer to what is pseudo-wisdom in what I shared here as teachings. If someone lives up to it, and shares examples that enlighten the way, then surely this is wise to do. For those who follow it up, and look into it, surely, this is wise to do as well. However, if you do not come up with decent arguments, surely any intelligent being reading this, will surely understand that what you say is hollow, your own misunderstanding that is situated in either your own passions or ignorance. And should read the Dhammapada yourself and put it into action. I do not see a single article coming from you, that actually challenges what I shared here as teachings. There for I conclude because of not taking a stand to actually debunk it with decent arguments, your post as being filled with ramblings and pseudo-wisdom, egotism and can be there for classified as foolish, per swaying people to agree on things that lack evidence and has therefor nothing to do with wisdom, being intelligent and being situated in the fruit of wholesomeness. If you disagree, and are not willing to put any evidence in what is wrong with what I am teaching here, and why it should be otherwise, and how it should be otherwise, then surely if you can't keep your mouth shut, sit still, putting your attention on yourself and being concentrated on Awareness, and instead just keep mumbling around here in this forum referring to me how I am situated in spiritual egotism, you clearly miss your aim, and are yourself trying to astray by your pseudo-wisdom. For you can also just not read what I write, put me on ignore, and leave it at rest. But you do not do this, you come to me, again and again. How can that be of a good intent? Surely you didn't miss that.

The non-duality war I personally think its very healthy if there is a part on the forum where people actually truly can debate discuss it, but not mengled with the articles of certain paths. Because it can get them to think critically. (it requires however another set up in the forum). I do strongly disagree that all paths are as good as others. Of course, someone who is further sees that the 8 folded path, that purifies the desires is best among paths, because someone is thrown in himself. But what makes something like this, or such a claim toxic? Because there is certainly a point being made by Leo. Keep in mind the 8 folded path, we will come back on that in a min. So what is then so toxic? I will show you guys an example of what is toxic, what is a perfect example of trying to "debunk" something in an ill way (not to forget, debunking is healthy, I promote it). Here is an example shown that is actually thrown, and already explained in my comment what is so wrong about it. Dear xxxx, You miss again the point, xxxx. So I will again explain it to you. The dhammapada, is well studied by me, and its examples are good to share. I live up to those examples, secluded from unwholesome deeds, sense indulgence, concentrated on Awareness and I am awakened to my true duty in accordance with my True Self. However, you seem to miss the point again. Your aim should not be me, but the subject that is presented. If you find it misinformation, support this with decent evidence. Refer to what is pseudo-wisdom in what I shared here as teachings. If someone lives up to it, and shares examples that enlighten the way, then surely this is wise to do. For those who follow it up, and look into it, surely, this is wise to do as well. However, if you do not come up with decent arguments, surely any intelligent being reading this, will surely understand that what you say is hollow, your own misunderstanding that is situated in either your own passions or ignorance. And should read the Dhammapada yourself and put it into action. I do not see a single article coming from you, that actually challenges what I shared here as teachings. There for I conclude because of not taking a stand to actually debunk it with decent arguments, your post as being filled with ramblings and pseudo-wisdom, egotism and can be there for classified as foolish, per swaying people to agree on things that lack evidence and has therefor nothing to do with wisdom, being intelligent and being situated in the fruit of wholesomeness. If you disagree, and are not willing to put any evidence in what is wrong with what I am teaching here, and why it should be otherwise, and how it should be otherwise, then surely if you can't keep your mouth shut, sit still, putting your attention on yourself and being concentrated on Awareness, and instead just keep mumbling around here in this forum referring to me how I am situated in spiritual egotism, you clearly miss your aim, and are yourself trying to astray by your pseudo-wisdom. For you can also just not read what I write, put me on ignore, and leave it at rest. But you do not do this, you come to me, again and again. How can that be of a good intent? Surely you didn't miss that. ................................................................................................... (So for all haters of Leo (or anyone else that is hated) that do not have come yet with decent arguments and are not willing to present them, but are just attacking, this message above is for you as well). The same counts for all that have something to say about Leo... If you don't have decent arguments, then leave it be. You must be ready to give arguments when asked for them. However I do point out towards Leo, see, they throw at me as well, and I have seen very very nasty things being said towards Leo, without a decent argument, or not willing to later point things out more, clearly with decent arguments, (e.g youtube) and I have seen nasty things being thrown at me. So whats toxic? That which makes it toxic, is that people do not come with decent arguments, and when asked, still don't. I would definitely would like to see a place where people can criticize peoples work, but with decent arguments (I stand widely open to be debunked very hard, but one must be coming with arguments, that are verifiable, and if I ever write something, people can just say to me: Please let us debate this, I wanna put this to the test with decent arguments, and I shall never say, I am not interested to support my claims with decent arguments with a clear mark of refraining from sophism). Preventing this healthy critical thinking in a forum, surely will lead people to think, oh Leo is going to discern who is non dual and who is not, and this is however imposing a non-dual by not non-dual which is toxic if not supported by good, solid arguments. (I am willing to support this further if Leo wants this, I stand wide open to make myself useful here) I don't believe Leo meant that as his intention however. Remember the claim about the 8 folded path? I dare to speak out that the 8 folded path is the best among paths. And I am willing to put decent arguments on that. Nothing toxic about that. However, I do am afraid that many, just can't put up decent arguments that are refrained from sophism, to actually truly demonstrate why its wrong even if they would wish. Some examples from other works, is just not enough to debunk something, although a valid point can be made. I am not supporting psychedelics, but I am betting that Leo would not say to me: Motus, you are crazy, you didn't gave me solid reasons why not, you are toxic. I always come with arguments, and if not, one can always ask for them, and I give them. And I find this healthy, because in this way I can warn for his reputation, (its what a good wise friend would do)! Create an article about what truly is non-dual according to you, and stand open for an argument back, letting readers decide for themselves. Thats key. And I would suggest that the administrator can use this information for improvement into all directions. (useful information can come out). Saying: Those non-dual, will never debunk something or debate it and correct a wrong view. This is not true. An enlightened being, or someone with a great understanding or someone rooted in Dharma, is only here to debunk with powerful sublime arguments. Debunking is for example what you do as well Leo, its what you should do. Its refraining from such duty that is dual, being attached. I wonder how many people got debunked by Leo in a positive manner, and I well support many of the points he made. (And I maybe should give those more credit here). I would rather say, if someone makes a probable toxic claim, they should be able to start an article on a forum, and challenge this. IF they do not respond to that, not even when asked in private to join it, or do join, but keep being toxic, not using arguments, just sophism to persway people and make war, now that is a reason to ban. I don't see a reason to ban, because he said; take the path I took, your path is wrong Leo. Or, Leo is not the right teacher. Motus is a bad teacher, his teachings are rubbish. (taking this personally is of course based on a wrong view, there for asking for arguments, which if one is not willing to put, and keeps going on with sophism and per swaying, then you can state: Wrong intent, false speech, wrong act, wrong view, wrong place of attention and concentration) (= Reason to ban?) Why no banning straight away, what do I think? Because, such a claim can be supported by arguments and should at some point, and the reader should ask for them to kindly explain why, if the writer did come up with decent arguments that can be checked to be valid, by his own core with a clear mark of refraining from sophism, he should be reasonable. Well now, the one answering should put decent arguments, and refraining from sophism. Otherwise, yes, if one just claims widely, without arguments, just throwing and throwing, is indeed making toxic claims due to not willing to support this claim with decent arguments. Deciding what is a good argument, valid argument etc, yes, one must be more educated, and that is another problem I come across. Therefor if someone is trying to debunk me, I will be more critical at pointing out rather why its sophism, and why it should be avoided. And I will do this as well for Leo, or anyone, if I see sophism, for the sake of education. I would ask nicely, that those who get a decent argument thrown at them, learn from it. Get along, harmonize, learn. I would ask nicely, that those who do not have a decent argument or are not be willing to put one when asked, just shut your mouth, and sit with it. Go watch some video's of Leo, or read some of the teachings I posted here. I really would like to see a reply from Leo, how he looks at the points I make here, as he is the administrator. And really would like to hear your thoughts about this article. (Remember, again, don't attack me, for theres no me, or a Leo, just learn to focus on my points that I make and come with arguments that are in line with the subject presented). (I posted it in the same forum, for practical reasons)

Dear Jse, You miss again the point, Jse. So I will again explain it to you. The dhammapada, is well studied by me, and its examples are good to share. I live up to those examples, secluded from unwholesome deeds, sense indulgence, concentrated on Awareness and I am awakened to my true duty in accordance with my True Self. However, you seem to miss the point again. Your aim should not be me, but the subject that is presented. If you find it misinformation, support this with decent evidence. Refer to what is pseudo-wisdom in what I shared here as teachings. If someone lives up to it, and shares examples that enlighten the way, then surely this is wise to do. For those who follow it up, and look into it, surely, this is wise to do as well. However, if you do not come up with decent arguments, surely any intelligent being reading this, will surely understand that what you say is hollow, your own misunderstanding that is situated in either your own passions or ignorance. And should read the Dhammapada yourself and put it into action. I do not see a single article coming from you, that actually challenges what I shared here as teachings. There for I conclude because of not taking a stand to actually debunk it with decent arguments, your post as being filled with ramblings and pseudo-wisdom, egotism and can be there for classified as foolish, per swaying people to agree on things that lack evidence and has therefor nothing to do with wisdom, being intelligent and being situated in the fruit of wholesomeness. If you disagree, and are not willing to put any evidence in what is wrong with what I am teaching here, and why it should be otherwise, and how it should be otherwise, then surely if you can't keep your mouth shut, sit still, putting your attention on yourself and being concentrated on Awareness, and instead just keep mumbling around here in this forum referring to me how I am situated in spiritual egotism, you clearly miss your aim, and are yourself trying to astray by your pseudo-wisdom. For you can also just not read what I write, put me on ignore, and leave it at rest. But you do not do this, you come to me, again and again. How can that be of a good intent? Surely you didn't miss that.

@WaveInTheOcean @kurt @WelcometoReality You are on your way becoming the way WaveInTheOcean, well done! For all readers: All teachings people follow, should always be contemplated by questioning the following: Does it contemplate my suffering? Or gives it something that I can run harder away from what seems to hurt me (resistance)? Has the teaching an eightfold path that contemplates the purification of desires? Please do not attack the teacher, but test out his given words and techniques, and judge upon: Did it led to insight, or did it not? Led it to get into the eye of the storm, which is uncomfortable, confronting but led to relief afterwards? If it did not work after hard work, then take the insight that this did not lead to the end of your suffering, and move on, without hurting anyone. A nice rule to apply: if someone is wiser, demonstrates it all the time, remain in touch, work hard in learning from him. IF someone is equally wise, work together to defeat the grip of thirst. If someone is clearly less wise then yourself, leave it be until you are far enough to guide from your heart. To copy ones work people, is perfectly fine. However, live up to it, if not spoken from a state of living up to it, can be compared to a beautiful flower that just fails to smell like one. I too have criticized his view on enlightenment, and have corrected him many times until drops the concept. I am sure, absolutely certain, that by these corrections and made corrections who also are hard on their way, he awakened to the point of being in discomfort. Realizing that he became wary of his ideas of enlightenment. He knows inside himself that this all what he does will tire out. However, I did not miss his good work either. He has been willing to bring people together, even though his guiding towards enlightenment rests on a psychedelic experience trip, and a day to day life to repeat this experience just this time without the psychedelics that therefor makes it self evident what is in accordance with that memory and what not (discerning right from wrong, thinking memory of a certain event is permanent), which of course rests of a wrong view (mushrooms and or psychedelics taking again as a remembrance, making it the guru is chasing ones own tail). Those wise and intelligent, apply the law of allowance, correct wrong views, just as one would correct other peoples views, from kindness, love, a compassionated mind. These corrections are for the better, and are actually happening as a result of his hard work to bring people together, together with those who accumulated wholesome deeds and can also join and learn from it. I see, and have seen in that comments change. People are backing off from the wrong ideas about enlightenment more and more due to the corrections that are made by practitioners who are more educated in Dharma then them. However, Leo's reputation is in the game and the realization of the corrections cannot be undone. There for, well done Leo, you have attained the vision of Dharma, that can't be undone. You have heard the Dharma from someone who is educated, otherwise you don't become this wary. This, cannot be undone. Therefor, you can mark my words, when one is awakened to the vision of Dharma, one will cycle, based on the idea that one is Awareness (hide and seek gameplay by upset), justifying ones doing and not doing, until this tires out completely, and becomes a non-returner. Where one will defend going back to the worldly activities as he used to. From here on, one will be warn out as well, and one day, one day one will become a teacher, teacher without being a teacher, preaching the Dharma from the seat of ones heart, completely rooted in self. Surely for his own advancement sake, he should indeed recognize those who truly know something about enlightenment, correct his own views, and apply them correctly as a teaching while practicing himself. Surely being rooted in Dharma, and having a community focused on self-improvement brings great happiness. I will again correct Leo out of compassion, to explain what self-actualized actually truly is about, and what it means so that it becomes clear for everyone. Leo could also refrain from enlightenment ideas, teach self improvement as spirituality classes, that is preparation for deeper lessons as a guidance towards enlightenment. Oh, and its not that shamanic practices did not use any drugs of any kind, however this can provoke, and can be labeled as a spiritual lesson, it should not be mengled with the fact that it is about enlightenment. I debunk it when it comes to Leo, because I don't see that he has truly had an education in being a shaman that could guide others even if it is about spirituality and not the full path to enlightenment. I say that the both the first stage or layer, and the second stage, that lead to the third stage, should well be established within this site forum. Fase one: Improvement, getting what you want in all aspects and being helped to realize this, is the first layer (here you reside in Leo, and can and should teach in, because you are knowledgable about a wide range of topics when it comes to such improvements and could benefit many). The second phase, are the Dharma teachings, getting into the eye of the storm, getting rid of ignorance, being with all that hurts, no longer running no more trying to escape from yourself. (First people must get through the first step, and realize that they are still running if they try getting what they want). The last will be the result of the first too which is what the term self-actualized actually is about, being completely rooted in self, with a concentration on Awareness. This one can be compared with a solid big rock, that will not be taken by a big storm. He is completely free of mind. Which means that one is like a lotus leaf held in water, it remains untouched. He is one with Duty, that is in alliance with his True self, being one with True self, being free of any doubt. Rather he is a warrior, or a spiritual teacher, this one, is solid, in accordance with Awareness, this is what we call: Self-Actualized.

Pranayam never means breath control. It simply means the expansion of the vital energy. Prana-ayam: prana means the vital energy hidden in breath, and ayam means infinite expansion. It is not breath control. The very word control is a little ugly, because it gives you a feeling of the controller; the will enters. Pranayam is totally different: expansion of vitality; breathing in such a way that you become one with the whole’s breathing; breathing in such a way that you are not breathing in your own individual way, you are breathing with the whole. Through pranayama this potential energy within you is systematically awakened. Pranayama, is one of the methods to hammer the sleeping energy.

No that isn to quite right. Giving the body what it needs to survive, is not unwholesome because its as well in accordance with Awareness, duty. If you would let yourself without reason die out of hunger, that is unwholesome behavior. Lets says someone is in accordance by seclusion from unwholesome behavior, and someone has a sickness that is very very painful, to hard to bear. But one is awakened, Attained Awareness. Then its not unwholesome to commit suicide. Please understand, Drinking alcohol and taking drugs for fun, is unwholesome because the body nor Awareness needs it. Its born out of passion and ignorance. Not eating and dying yourself out just because of laziness to take care of the body, is still ignorance.

@Bronsoval Enlightenment = Compassion. Let me explain. One cannot remain in the awakened mind that equals compassion due to his discipline. If all defilements are gone, one lives secluded from sense gratification and worldly activities always doing good, this being has perfect overview and knows that in those beings that suffer, also in their hearts is the supreme, and this being, no matter how hard he tries, does not see it. And becomes compassionate. He sees in all things the Supreme. And all those who do not see this, he is compassionate about. His state remains in compassion due to constant polarity to be compassionate about. There for one must seclude from sense indulgence, give up most of his possessions, and always remain mindful of the Supreme, that is all pervasive Awareness in order to be compassionate about polarity, and those stuck in it. So in the presence of such a being, the other becomes compassionate as well, but returns to his daily life after, and its gone again, and here the holy man, is also compassionate about, and there for he goes on and on preaching to live simple, to strive to which is deathless, which is within all our hearts so that they do refrain from sense indulgence as well so they don't need to cry no more, and become family and don't need to leave no more. Thinking that compassion and enlightenment are separated because there is a famine and a masculine, is thinking the wrong way around. There is famine and masculine because there is the Supreme. And those who attain it, there for are compassionate to both male and female that suffer by the same root that is their desire. The same can be said about enlightenment and enlightening others, there for Enlightenment = Compassion.

The problem with people that have risen to a higher consciousness(so to speak) is that they strive and thrive in freedom and to be free spirits they are as they have remembered who and what they really are and what life's really about. This deeper understanding gives them this drive to actually live life were the rest of humanity are merely existing and following one anothers cultural/social expectations in a never ending routine or loop. This drives those who have awakened(if you will) crazy because someone with a lower consciousness is always going to want commitment, promises, man-made ideology's and expectations where as to a person of higher consciousness is more aligned with universal laws of creation and freedom to live as they wish and are usually free from comfort zones where those still asleep or lower consciousness live in and by comfort zones.

Well written down Spiral, well done! Someone who is awakened to the level that we do in essence not differ from one another even for a moment, is not entangled with hate towards others, he is like a church bell that is broken, no matter how hard one hits or kicks; no sound will be produced in return. No hard words, no wrongful act when harmed, always doing good, surely such a person is the example of what the enlightened stage is.

I do believe in siddhis including healing powers. I also believe Jesus was not even a real person evemerized. http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/astrotheology.html The above article was written by Acharya S. author of various books such as "The Christ Conspiracy" Her material also was the direct inspiration for the first part of the renowned Zeitgeist documentaries by Peter Joseph (linked below) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt-qYDb7UcI That said... I do believe the Jesus of the Christian Gnostics was an Archetypal Figurehead, similar to the Buddha, that we can all be our own saviors and "find" the Kingdom of Heaven or Nirvana, realizing our own Christ Consciousness or Buddha Nature. Which BTW has very much to do with Kundalini Awakening. Jiddu Krishnamurti on Kundalini: http://www.katinkahesselink.net/kr/kundalini.html Note how he mentions early on that many in the West (and indeed the East) are thinking they've had Kundalini Awakening but have not actually fully Awakened Kundalini at the least, and are charlatans at the worst. For the record Jiddu never claimed to be fully Awakened. Kundalini and Chi/Qi are "mana" for the magick siddhis.

Claim your enlightenment. Prepare yourself for wholesome knowledge. 7 keys to enlightenment as revealed to me. Key 1: Understand first who can help and who cannot help, who can be helped, and who are helpless. Because You are in essence the supreme, Awareness that is all pervasive, the super soul that knows no equal, the unborn, the unmanifest, there are absolute ways that lead to attain the Supreme, and ways that cannot and will not lead to the Supreme, the all pervasive Awareness that I will now refer to as Me, with a capital. Those that are helpless, cannot help, and can be identified by their behavior that performs as the result of their thinking, and their thinking shows their level of understanding, their level of understanding is rooted in either whole-fulness, passion or ignorance. People that live a secluded life, given up their sense gratification, given up their possessions, their riches, money and unwholesome deeds, are dependent upon the goodness of the people, who's mind does not waver, are equanimous towards all situations thrown at them and unshaken in their dedication and devotion towards Me, or are in the pure abode of themselves flowering the next day, these people are situated in the fruit of whole-fulness. People that do not live a secluded life, are chasing their dream jobs, going out with friends from one to another party, taking alcohol, psychedelics and drugs together, eat a lot of food randomly when they like, advice each other to become someone in this world, entertain themselves through gaming, porn and ballgames etc, and into all kinds of family traditions and traditions of the world and also pretending that they are very spiritually advanced to make money, read books about wisdom but don't act upon them are situated in the fruit of passion. People that are having great power in this world, are into money making, living not up to a religious life of some kind, are into science and occults of the dark magics, are involved in warfare, political control and propaganda on major scales etc, are bewildered, are situated in the fruit of ignorance. Conclusion: Of these 3 only those people that are situated in the fruit of whole-fulness can truly help someone get going on a path that with certainty ends when fully awakened. The 2 other fruits where people can be situated in are those that do not start their journey, or do not finish their journey. They rather not start their crossing, or keep swimming from one shore to the other. Key 2: Become aware about the difficulty society brings when it comes to living up to the holy life and its discipline to become free of mind. Western countries belief in being a person, bind people to their names through certificates and contracts, forcing people to deal with money or live on the streets where they cannot get food like for example in india, therefor promotes anything but living a spiritual, holy life. Yet one must give up his possessions. Key 3: Understand why one must give up his possessions. Without giving it up, one does not get to see what true dependence is. Through giving it up, one accumulates loving kindness understanding that we are dependent upon each other which gets motivated when possessions are gone, because the worries go with it. This love and kindness is to sustain his community, the interaction he has with the world and becomes sure that he can sustain perfectly well through this, and loses there for the worries when it comes to food, water and shelter. Key 4: Understand how to come as close as possible in a western country, where such a life is not supported. Because one can't give it all up here, seek there for how far you do can give it up. And see the money making, and the managing of the money as real problem for the mind that wants to become free. There for, understand, that it is not wrong to work, that of course is not harming life, but that the managing of it as well as gathering, surely draws one from the path. There for seek a trusted companion that is willing to share the load by doing his or her job by managing, but not being the gatherer. Second, the food and drink problem. The environment is not always as good. Much work is expected and there for stress comes in. Seclude from much food, turn it back to once a day and keep this simple, to accumulate energy of a much higher kind then from food. Drink distilled water (often a lot of garbage is found in plain water), and stop drinking coke and other of such contaminated drinks. Surely by doing this, you will see quickly spiritually results. Key 5: Understand that action without attached to results is better then meditation. Meditation is great, but working always, without any defilement to the results, either good or bad results, like a lotus held in water remaining untouched is higher. With this key understanding, one can make it also in the western world that expect much of work for society. To achieve this, one should refrain from unwholesome deeds, namely: Wrong views, intentions, speech, acts, effort, livelihood, attention and concentration. To achieve this, one should by his work, his action, become completely rooted in the self, attention on your work, and concentration on Me. It will lead to surrender, working, without working due to no attachment to the fruits of his actions, nor attached to his own name (being someone) and form (afraid of body aches) one becomes infallible. Key 6: Understand the knowledge coming from Me. Knowledge out of books can be great, but knowledge coming from You, is supreme in all its aspects. Understand that You are in each and everyone of you, in the wise and the wicked see there for you in them, and them within you always. Make attaining Me your supreme goal, through achieving complete detachment from results from your actions, always focused on Me, behave in accordance of Me always, and Me shall make sure you being in a pure abode, protected from sins in all ways. For all ways come from Me, and lead back to Me, and let you, be just an instrument. Key 7: Understand the importance of duty. Work of others, that you may perfectly perform, is great, but the duty that is in accordance of Me, is the best, even so with countless of mistakes. There for do not give up, and strive on doing your duty that fits you, eventually leading to attaining Me. If it is adventurous then let it be so, if its being a painter, then let it be so, but never persway off from your duty that is in accordance with the real you. Stand up, and do the job that truly fits that you know by heart no matter how hard the way to it, move on, rooted in self, attention on your work, and concentration on Me, surely you are dear to Me.

Modern teachers are not enlightened, they are just awakened. Most of them are deluded

@stevegan928 @ajasatya I would have to disagree with notions such as effortless effort, or nothing to attain. This is a excerpt from the book Mastering the core teachings of the buddha. " The "Nothing to Do" and "you are already there schools" On a somewhat different note, I feel the need to address, which is to say shoot down with every bit of rhetorical force I have, the notion promoted by some teachers and even traditions that there is nothing to do, nothing to accomplish, no goal to obtain, no enlightenment other than the ordinary state of being, no practice or tradition that is of value, no technique that will help. The other side of this same coin is the point of view that you already are realized, already there, already completely accomplished, and you essentially should just be able to be told this by them to understand it for yourself, which, were it true, would have been very nice of them, except that it is complete bullshit. The Nothing To Do School and the You Are Already There School are both basically vile extremes on the same basic notion that all effort to attain to mastery is already missing the point, an error of craving and grasping. They both contradict the fundamental premise of this book, namely that there is something amazing to attain and understand and that there are specific, reproducible methods that can help you do that. Here is a detailed analysis of what is wrong with these and related perspectives. Some defenders of these views will claim that they are the most immediate, most complete, highest and most direct teachings that one could promote, but I will claim that they do not lead to much that is good that cannot be attained by conceptual frameworks that are not nearly so problematic or easily misconstrued. First, these notions encourage people to not practice. The defenders can say what they like, but again and again I see people who subscribe to these sorts of notions resting on their cleverness and grand posteriors and not actually getting it in the same way that my accomplished meditator friends get it. It seems so comforting, this notion that you are already something that you, in fact, are not, or that there is nothing that you could do that would be useful. The notion that people already are something begs the question: What are they? These views tend to imply that they are already something such as perfect, enlightened, realized, awakened, or something even worse such as Awareness, Cosmic Consciousness, The Atman, an aspect of The Divine, etc. all of which cannot actually be found. While Buddhism does sometimes go there, using terms such as Dharmakaya and Buddha Nature, these are very slippery, high concepts that were added later and require a ton of explanation and practical experience to keep them from becoming the monsters they nearly always become in less experienced hands. Awakening involves clearly perceiving universal characteristics of phenomena. While one can attempt to rest comfortably in the intellectual notion that these universal characteristics are there anyway and be comforted by teachings such as easily misconstrued statements like, “I have gained nothing by complete and un-excelled enlightenment,” the whole, core, essential, root point of all this is that there is something to be gained by becoming one of the people that can actually directly perceive the true nature of things clearly enough to change fundamentally the way reality is perceived in real-time. The straight truth is that the vast majority of people do not start out being able to do anything even close to this, and most are lucky to be able to stay with three breaths in sequence before wandering off into their neurotic crap, much less understand anything liberating about those breaths. The notion that everyone already is someone who can perceive reality the way the masters do without effort in real-time is a fantastic falsehood, lie, untruth, and in short, one great load of apathy-creating insanity. If one goes around asking people without very good insight into these things, i.e. the unenlightened, about basic dharma points, points that are obvious to those who have learned to pay attention well, one does not find that everyone already is a person who is perceiving things at the level that makes the difference the dharma promises. Further, even those of lower levels of enlightenment generally have a hard time saying they really are able to perceive the emptiness, luminosity, selflessness, causality, transience, ephemerality, etc. of reality in real-time at all times without having to really do anything. In short, the notion that this is as easy as just being what you already are is wildly off the mark, as the vast majority of people are woefully underdeveloped on the perceptual front in question. Thus, all reality testing reveals that the two schools are missing a very fundamental point: while the universal characteristics are always manifesting in all things and at all times, there are those who can perceive this well and those who cannot, and meditative training, conceptual frameworks, techniques, teachers, texts, discussions and the like can all contribute to developing the internal skills and wiring to be able to realize fully what is possible, as thousands of practitioners throughout the ages have noticed. I myself have known before and after, meaning that I know what I was capable of perceiving and understanding before I underwent meditative training and after, and no amount of being fed the concept that I was already as developed as I could be, was already enlightened, was already there, had nothing to do, nothing to develop, was already as clear as I could be, was already perfectly awake, etc. was going to make the difference that practicing for thousands of hours over many years did. It would be like saying: you are already a concert pianist, you just have to realize it, or you already are a nuclear physicist, you just have to realize it, or you already speak every language, you just have to realize it. It would be like saying to a two-year old: you already understand everything you need to know so stop learning new things now, or to a severe paranoid schizophrenic: you already are as sane as anyone and do not need to take your medicines and should just follow the voices that tell you to kill people, or to a person with heart disease: just keep smoking and eating fried pork skins and you will be healthy, or to an illiterate person with no math skills who keeps having a hard time navigating in the modern world and is constantly ripped off: no need to learn to read and do math, as you are just fine as you are, or saying to a greedy, corrupt, corporate-raiding, white-collar criminal, Fascist, alcoholic wife-beater: hey, Dude, you are a like, beautiful perfect flower of the Now Moment, already enlightenedyou are doing and not-doing just fine, like wow, so keep up the good work, Man. Would you let a blind and partially paralyzed untrained stroke victim perform open-heart surgery on your child based on the notion that they already are an accomplished surgeon but just have to realize it? Would you follow the dharma teachings of people who feed other people this kind of crap? Those who imagine that everyone somehow in their development already became as clear and perceptive as they could be just by being alive is missing something very profound. Do they imagine that you can just remind people of these things and suddenly all wisdom and clarity will suddenly appear? This is mind-bogglingly naive. I have gained so much that is good and lost so much that is bad by learning to practice well, learning to concentrate, learning the theory, learning insight practices, going through the organic process of the stages over decades, reading the stories, reading about the lives of the great practitioners, having dharma conversations with dharma friends, debating points, wrestling with difficult concepts and how to apply them to my actual life, teaching, learning, studying, playing with the powers, writing, realizing how things are, and delving deeply into the sensate world that I am astounded that anyone would want to try to reduce something so grand, wonderful, deep, rich, amazing and profound to such a paltry, ridiculous concept as the notion that all that is already in place in everyone regardless of what they have done or not done. All those benefits, skills, abilities, powers, states, stages, experiences, insights, and fundamental perceptual changes simply were not available until I did the work, took the time, participated in the process, and no amount of anyone telling me it was otherwise would have helped or made it so. I know of no examples where the necessary and sufficient causes for the arising of these benefits did not involve some kind of work. In short, I say to those who persist in promoting the Nothing To Do School and the You Are Already There School: STOP IT! You are spreading craziness, and this is craziness that many people will not be able to tell is craziness, and that appears to include those who promote these fallacies. While I usually do not go so far as to tell people that there is something so deeply wrong with what they think and how they communicate it that they should stop it immediately and forever, this particular point is a great example of something I consider abhorrent and worthy of profound revision. Regardless of any kind intentions, the teachings of these schools take a half-truth that seems so very nice and seductive to neurotic practitioners who can barely stand another achievement trip and have such a hard time with self-acceptance, and that half-truth is distorted into sugary poison. There is no need to tie the three useful concepts of 1) no-self, 2) self-acceptance in the ordinary sense, and 3) the notion that the sensations that lead to understanding (if clearly perceived over and over again) are manifesting right here, right now, to such a perversely twisted yet seemingly benign and similar concept as the one they unfortunately promote.

How to defend perfectly against "others." (As how it is revealed to me). Please read first my other article "Who am I and how so?" first. First realize that you in truth are Awareness. And that this awareness is all pervasive, and is thus not limited to one mind or body. Meditate on it often. Ask and observe often how many times people speak and act from the beLIEf of an I that is apart from others. The key to the perfect defense is perfect discernment on the critical moment when someone uses wrongful speech or act against you. How does this work? Be in the space of perfect discernment seeing therefor the "other" within yourself, and yourself within the other. For its the same all pervasive awareness. The difference between the one rooted in Awareness and the other lost by his defilements, is exactly the weight of misunderstanding himself in that particular moment. Let therefor this be your ultimate reason to be compassionate, which is the awakened mind. Remind yourself when you realize this reason, that no matter what the other throws, is bound to leave, as it came up within himself, it must exhaust eventually due to changing circumstances. Example: I hate you! You are a fool! ... Now, answer knowingly he can't speak to you, does not speak to you, but is only thinking he speaks to you (he would be speaking if he would be either silent or speaks or acts in accordance with all pervasive awareness). He does not speak to you, but is only thinking he speaks to you according to his beLIEf that there are others, but is actually discriminating his own mind. He is literally just slapping and cutting unknowingly his own mind by thinking he is speaking to you, so answer him in accordance of All pervasive Awareness calmly to let him remember his true nature: I do not belief you do hate me, or think that I am a fool. I do belief that you cannot hate me and that you cannot think of me being a fool. I belief you might missed the fact that I am in essence no different from you. I belief you might missed the fact that your feelings and emotions and thoughts come and go, they are not of you and me. Keep in mind that all wrongful acts or false speech are rooted in the same ignorance, there for this same technique can be repeated over and over. One does not need to exactly speak as shown in the example, the key however is not taking over the words, but using your insight to come to realize you are awareness that is all pervasive and become rooted in it. Speak and act in accordance with it and you reign. You reign because of your compassion, it makes hate, delusion and desire powerless. Final notes: In my other article: Who am I and how so? I explain the most direct technique to reach Me as revealed to me, (all Pervasive Awareness). Remember, to master this technique, one must first get rid of his beLIEf that there are many others besides himself and act and speak accordingly to gather supreme deeds (non polar) that eventually overthrow the little me completely, never to be able to sprout back due to the eradication of desires that eventually leads to the false sense of self.

I have been meditating and investigating last night in all honesty, and this is what was revealed to me. You may challenge these views, or question or even add your own information what was revealed to you. What am I, what are you all really? I am not everything existing, or nothing. I am not a combination of everything and nothing, or the subtraction of separated completely from it. I am not a result of a certain action. I am not physical or non physical. I am not earth, wind or fire. I am not the emptiness or void. I am not that which I perceive through my senses, my intellect, my mental formation, sense impressions, my feelings or my bodily consciousness. I am not sound, image or anything related to such things. (oneness) But what am I then and all others, and how so? I am Awareness. That which is the glow of the fire, the ocean of all water, the blue glow over earth. Without Me, your body is an empty vessel and completely useless. I am not limited to one body, or one mind. I am the pure mind, without defilements, the untouched, the true deathless, without ever birth or being sick. I am THE I, and not the limited separated I. I am THE Me, and not the little me. What is the reason why there is little me? Its root cause is desire. It makes them forgetful, and this leads to lose the ability to perfect discern. Losing the ability to perfect discern leads to little me and this leaves to the application of servant to ones own senses. Leads to thinking in "persons" which the greatest discrimination and damage to ones own mind. What happens if any one gets rid of little me? Perfect discernment. He can be compared to a lotus leaf held in the ocean, it will remain untouched. What is the awakened mind? The awakened mind, is the compassionate mind. What is the most direct technique to reach ME? Cut off all wrongful information as a whole (which can only be rooted in wrong discern) like you would not take poison when offered. Stop the flood of the information that is harmful. And stop food addictions and everything that defiles the mind directly like alcohol and drugs (its still harmful information). And fill yourself with spiritual knowledge that is wholesome information that the real you shares when focusing only on ME, when you meditate on Me. See ME, in all things and beings, for I am not limited to anything. And surely you will grow wary about little me and its related thoughts that sprouted from ignorance, and so right discern is remembered so you can build upon thoughts that are not rooted in ignorance until you are fulfilled, letting the thoughts rooted in ignorance rot away. How does the law works after death, how must hell and heaven been seen? I remain I, The I. Little me, is Me + desire, streaming away by its own desires, heaven and hell are exhaustion mechanisms based on duality which is the doctrine of temporary. One goes on with ones own game of either having the taste of becoming the defilement (unwholesome) which refers to hell, or the game of getting rid of it (wholesome) which refers to heaven. In either way this never stops. Heaven and hell are there for true unwholesome, and removing the attachment to it by getting rid of the desire leading to it, is true wholesome. Have you any arguments proving YOU being all pervasive? If out of everything you would perceive only one thing, would completely represent itself standing on its own, namely: Thoughts presenting itself being thoughts, sounds being sounds, images being images, intellect being intellect, mental formation being mental formation, sense impressions being sense impressions, physical objects being physical objects, perception presenting itself being perception and consciousness being consciousness, then I would not be all pervasive. > Not one thing out of everything presents itself being that which it presents, its always a composite presenting anything else but itself. Conclusion: I, Me (Awareness), is all pervasive.

@Debil Great topic! I find Teal Swan also has some good perspectives, likely because her childhood was so extreme. Many of her videos discuss raising children inadvertently to show how our subconscious has become so fucked up....but you can also use that knowledge as a parenting guide... Personally, I am pretty disappointed in my inability to evolve myself enough to be a more awakened parent. I am going through a toxic separation, and I want to be better equipped to rise above the effects of my situation. My daughter is 3, pretty similar age...yes, this is the formative time. I will check out, Shefali Tsabary...I need all the help I can get...lol....thanks so much for sharing!

@Jcent Yes, Vitamin C is sooooo important too! Having a brain injury means more mental stress load, it equates to physically being a fast-pace police officer... and so we need higher doses of it (see 1950's studies if interested, sorry I can't find the link). Yes, I have been meditating for almost a year, but I recently took a break when I had a few really bad Ego-Backlash experiences in a row. I am ok with it again, if I am using Binaural Beats. These frequencies have been AMAZING for me. They have allowed me to calm more deeply, to meditate with less energy, and even to occasionally have incredible powerful visions accompanied by intense physical energy sensations. A warning though for Concussion stuff...because the occasional visions are so wonderful, I tried to induce them by combining binaural beats with dream machine simulators...it made me super sick from the flicker, even with my eyes closed...I am working on enlightenment, that said, I have had a really traumatic past....so I have many, many, extra neurosis to overcome on my Journey...lol...If you ever need to break from mediation, I suggest keeping it brief, and increasing your gratitude practice threefold... My accident left me with physical injuries too....what I find best for pain is just finding other/ better things to focus on....where attention goes, that's what grows...eh? My days are not rigid. My passions are diverse and creative, I am working on Mastery in the Art/ Storytelling realm....I know what you mean... I remember feeling, for a long tim, a huge loss...my career....my future....but in reality, this experience can't help but be a wake up call for any of us that experience it. I likely would have been miserable if I continued to work 16 hour days on the computer at classical animation studios on OTHER PEOPLE'S PROJECTS! Although I still get really bummed about how difficult it is for me to work on the computer, I love that I now have the opportunity to follow my passion....Thank you too, I really appreciate your positivity...and the fact that you started this thread...there are likely more concussion sufferers that have awakened to this forum, and would appreciate our stories... sending LOVE!

As a parent in the journey of self actualization, I am facing many challenges and questions when raising my 2.5 years old child. Especially knowing that the beliefs embedding window is so short (age 1 to ~5), finding the right thing to do without infecting my child with my own flawed beliefs is not an easy task. So in case you haven't heard about her, I wanted to let you know about Shefali Tsabary, her world perception matches the one we're trying to obtain and she has great insights about parenting. Here's one video, you can see more on YouTube and on her website. http://www.oprah.com/video_embed.html?article_id=63313

Samadhi is the direct realization of the true self or Anata which is the gateway to the absolute. There is no one to seek, understand or chase anything. These fundamental misconceptions only arise in the absence of Samadhi (union). @Deep What you say here is correct, to a lesser degree only because consciousness is being experienced through the individual self/mind awareness. Only through awakened awareness, (Anata) can the absolute be realized as it has no direct experience of itself. This is where the magic of it all lies. As long as we're in this body/mind/time/space existence, someone would have to be totally stone enlightened, I'm talking non- existent to be absolute consciousness 24/7. That being said, absolute consciousness can still be visited through Samadhi. And one day we all awaken from the dream of self and return again to the absolute we once where. This is all a beautiful process of unfolding that is meant to be. You are exactly where you should be as part of that process. This is it happening now! To be one with that infinity unfolding process is to be one with God.

I bought the the audiobook "the one of us" from Adyashanti and his wife Mukti some time ago. I found it very enlightening regarding relationship from an awakened perspective.

I have come to my understanding through my own experience and doing the work. If Im "attached" to that just means that its working for me. I was ready to commit suicide two years ago, and if it was not for my spiritual path i would not be here now. Its going to take 20-30 years to become non attached to a system that saved me from taking my own life. If you imagine that this is a case of just dropping all ideas then you are mistaken. Ideas in the end release us from all ideas and identifications, in the end, not halfaway through, not just because some idiot on a website requests it of us because they want to win and disarm others by telling them they are identified with their path. And not because i couldnt really give a toss about what you think you know about "enlightement" while you stand there and speak in a way that very clearly deomostrates that you have merely made a conceptual ideology of this work and that you are indeed not free, or do you see that your ego was an idea, because free people dont need to strive for a better happiness than what already is. And yes, you can learn what projection is from one of leos videos and then use that as a weapon against anyone who doesnt fit your ideology, but this does not mean that you know what projection is, merely means you use it as a weapon while you project the idea of me projecting onto you. Projection is a mechanism you use to decieve yourself in order to win arguments based on internalized beliefs that are not in harmony with your experience. Ive already pointed out youre lying to yourself and everyone else by claiming you dont exist yet your ego makes value judgements and seeks to gain a "better" life than it already has. That is not the sign of an enlightened person, or an awakened person, its the sign of a liar who has taken on a belief system.