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If consciousness is infinite , is it possible for there to be a conscious reality where after you die you are in an eternal dark void but your senses continue and you are essentially trapped in your own mind for all of eternity. Why would this not be possible? I ask because I had a dream in which this became a reality , I was in pure nothingness for what seemed like hours with nothing but my own thoughts and it made me question, what if this is actually possible to be suspended in this hell like state for all of time with no way out. I ask , why is this not because I know through direct experience this is possible temporarily as I experienced this void where I was in nothingness but my thoughts continued, given time is relative then should it also be possible that consciousness could become stuck in this state eternally.

This piece of the puzzle just doesn't make much sense to me that when you are in the waking state you are awareness itself that is experiencing the world and itself as the world but in the deep sleep state of nothingness you don't even exist as awareness there is literally no you in that state to experience anything so how is everything consciousness and awareness when in the deep sleep state there is no you no experiencer no world no nothing and no consciousness and awareness also? my main question is how can that also be awareness and consciousness if there is no thing? can consciousness and awareness be only a product of experience and a you and the world? and if so then they can't be the fundamental reality because there is a state where they are not there

When we hear the term "emptiness " or "nothingness " or even "non-existence " we can't help ourselves but to imagine a black scene. It has to be black .not any other color .but why ? It should qualityless .meaning it has no shape or form or even color .yet it's associated in our minds with a specific Color which is black .but why black and not red for example? Can you see that it's completely arbitrary. Yet we can't help ourselves but to think of nothingness as having a black color . I'm simply asking why is that case ? I mean I get it ..we can't imagine colorlessness because all we ever see is color . But why the color black specifically to represent nothingness rather than white or any other color? ?

There wasn't anyone there! It was recognized that even the idea of something called "the truth" stemmed from this nothingness or illusion of self! ❤️

God (White) = Oneness Nothingness (Black) = Empty Infinity (Purple) = Everything Devil (Black) = Seperation Love (Yellow) = Union (Cyan) = Objective Personality System Demon (Cyan)= Negligent Savior (Cyan)= Responsible Introfem (Cyan) = Shadow Extramasc (Cyan) = Light Red Arrow = Feminine = Movable Blue Arrow = Masculine = Solid

Soul is nothingness, or god. You can not understand it. You can only Be.

Surrender, surrender till nothing left. Love is God is, Nothingness is waiting for You.

1. 4:43 - Knowing what is and experiencing a Samadhi / mystical experience 2. 6:12 - No-self 3. 8:05 - I AM 4. 11:35 - Omnipresence 5. 13:04 - Realizing what consciousness is 6. 14:33 - Realizing what is awakening 7. 16:54 - Oneness or non-duality 8. 19:31 - Realizing what is Truth 9. 20:30 - Realizing what is the Absolute 10. 21:37 - Absolute Infinity 11. 23:06 - Absolute Nothingness 12. 24:25 - Knowing why is there something rather than nothing 13. 25:51 - Knowing what is God 14. 26:45 - The Godhead 15. 27:06 - Realizing You are God 16. 29:41 - Self = Other 17. 32:46 - Realizing what is Love 18. 35:45 - Realizing everything is imaginary (All is Mind) 19. 38:35 - Self-Design 20. 40:49 - Realizing what your birth really is 21. 42:42 - Eternity / No-Time / Absolute Now 22. 44:10 - Realization of what is Death and Immortality 23. 46:15 - Paradise / Heaven / Perfection 24. 47:51 - Bliss / Ecstasy 25. 49:29 - Infinite Intelligence 26. 53:26 - Absolute Goodness 27. 54:28 - Realizing what is Will (Infinite Will of God) 28. 58:10 - Omniscience 29. 59:18 - Divinity / Magic / Mystery 30. 1:01:05 - Realizing what is Being 31. 1:02:14 - Realizing Universe is an Infinite Fractal 32. 1:02:39 - Realizing what is Perception 33. 1:03:14 - Realizing what is Life 34. 1:04:29 - Realizing the point of Existence Bonus facets: 1. 1:05:19 - Channeling / Communication with God 2. 1:06:03 - Healing 3. 1:06:44 - Collective Consciousness 4. 1:07:13 - Total Extinction of Perception 5. 1:07:43 - Paranormal Phenomena 6. 1:08:22 - Alien Entities

took like 100ug lsd because i had pain 2 years ago, fell asleep and deconstructed reality in nothingness. Woke up, i'm in the same bed/reality but it looked different that i could tell i'm in a different dimension. Went outside to my garden and it was like i was in after death realm, i could make a door look good/bad or ground look good/bad and see it's structure as just digital patterns etc. Noticed i could hear the same sound of pigeon flying around all the time, looked up and the pigeon was stuck in a looped time frame would fly over my head then reset and do it all over again all the time. I thought i broke time/reality and thought i would never get back, so i started walking in loops like a bot. Also was looking out of my window and could imagine people out of existence. Every time i looked at time it would be like 9:37 always, so i also thought i was stuck in eternity.

One experience shows me that my body sensations are made out of literally nothing and I am that nothing. Or: truth = nothingness = form Another experience shows me that my body is love/beuty. I can zoom into that sensation forever and its love and beuty. Where I now feel my shoulder, in higher states I feel love. Or: Truth = love = form But nothingness is not equal to love, because in nothingness I didnt feel any love. Love is formless, but it is not nothingness, its something - love! I don't get it. Where is my blindspot? Looking for help. Thanks.

@Loveeee great episode...and what is perception is one of his best for actually awakening....but here goes...No self. You are the Self. Infinity. You are infinity. The Absolute. You are the Absolute. Everything. You are Everything. Nothingness, You are nothing. Onenes. You are other. Divinity. You are Divinity. And the substance of all of this - is Love. I am..I IS!! Oops..I forgot Infinite intelligence- Omniscience. You are Awareness. You have a complete understanding of Self and reality. Bliss is part of awakening. And lots and lots of tears and crying. You?

The source of everything is just lack of limits, that is nothing. Existing is manifestation, but existence isn't absolute . Because Nonexistence is the source of existence. How? Because nonexistence is everything, existence is the part that appears from nonexistence, which is everything that could be and is not, therefore it is infinite and what is is finite. The point is that nonexistence is total potential, it lives, it is total and it is you. Nothingness is everything, is what you are and it's total. And Its impossible to grasp with the mind , because really it's nothing . Not emptiness, or void, or infinity, just nothing. And that's everything . And conciousness is just a facet, the facet that is conciouss of itself, that of course, is everything , because anything else is nothing , but same time is nothing, because it's just a possibility between infinite possibilities 😅.

You can conscious-ensleepen certain parts of the body where every spatial size of the body infinitely spirals out, is everywhere and nowhere, and everything collapses into nothingness. You do that with the nose and the nose at every scale of size, and then you no longer have a sense of having a nose. You do that with the lower back and then the lower back no longer has pain, or the lower back is asleep or completely put out of it. A total conscious sleep is where you would do this with the whole body. Doing this while standing up is the key. Nailing down what I already got lying down, and shifting it over to sitting, standing, and eventually walking positions and even running--full total relaxation and rejuvenation from running. A total reversal of evolutionary habit and human ordinary inertia.

@Sugarcoat it is the gift of Nothingness.

Because nothing would then exist to be "experienced" or differentiated - it’s the classic "If a tree makes a sound and no one hears it, does it make a sound?" Consciousness, or "observance," requires two differentiated selves or points of view for each to exist. If no one were there to know of Sugarcoat, and if Sugarcoat weren’t defined by any bounds of reality, as an individuated self Sugarcoat couldn’t exist - she would dissolve into nothingness, emptiness, or God. Something must stubbornly remain one way and not another; this principle manifests in both the physical, emotional, and spiritual realms. If all physical objects were infinitely fluid, changeable, or transmutable, there would be constant chaos and no stable structures or rules to define reality. Similarly, if emotions lacked weight or meaning and were infinitely fluid (like a fleeting joke) then the depth of love, beauty, the pull of passion, and other profound feelings would not necessarily exist. This concept, though cliché in non-duality teachings—"without darkness, there can be no light"—holds deep truth, especially when contemplating the nature of the self in the highest spiritual sense. God "needs" to experience everything because He is everything and can only be everything. Hence, limitations and rigid, concrete, stable forms must also exist. Limitation provides depth as much as expansion can. We, as humans, (sadly or luckily) happen to resemble God more in this sense. We possess metacognition - the ability to think about our own thinking - a self-referential quality. Since God is infinite, those creatures in God’s mind had to eventually exist. Having a self or awareness is profoundly beautiful - the ability to take in the beauty of others into your own consciousness and merge with it to a delightful degree. The difficulty comes with suffering, but that’s the "deal" we get. You have a defined self that is conscious and can explore, take in the world, parts of God’s mind. But in being defined, vulnerable to change, needing specific requirements for a good life and survival - and in a universe that is infinitely impermanent - we suffer.

@Leo Gura Do you think the pyramids were built by humans? And if so, advanced humans or the less advanced humans history claims? I think the lowest energy state for a person thinking about this openly and with actual comprehension and stuff is just that it was not built by ordinary means, because of the size and precision of the cuts. If someone thinks otherwise it's just peer pressure. I also have a special book with the names written down of Donald John Trump, James David Vance (born James Donald Bowman), Elon Reeve Musk, every elected member of the new US Congress, many Russian generals and putin and security council, every single Ukrainian regiment in its military, Ukrainian generals and security council / Zelenskyy, the Knesset, the Hamas leaders in Turkey and Gaza, the Turkish president and cabinet and parliament, the Hezbollah leaders, the Iranian Expediency Council and Guardian Council and Khameini and Parliament and officers of the IRGC and Artesh and Basij and Police, the Chinese Central Committee and many Chinese generals, the King and Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, the emir and deputy emir and prime minister of Qatar, as well as the emirs of the UAE. And Destiny. I'm able to put my consciousness inside the emanations of the person at various connections, using the names to keep track as a correlation, creating substance of what I'm conscious of. You can take the Infinity as a physicalized or mentalized substance that can be remotely transported. I take Infinite Intelligence of Nothingness and the infinite harmonics and change of this and interconnection and can put it into them at the levels of subatomic, atomic, molecular, organelles, cellular, tissues, higher-order structure (this just means size doesn't escape any of it). This Infinite Intelligence is different from the Infinite Intelligence that's already present, this is deeper, infinitely. And a specific will can be attached or had or been by the Infinite Intelligence placed within the person.

That was thought/mind. Realization could have happened, but after-interpretation (mind activity) recreates self. That´s why you can have 500 Samadhis in your lifetime and still Enlightment doesn't happen. Reaction to limited thought (In this case: I'm completely alone inside this state of consciousness.) The Nothing that you are is beyond the word nothing. Because the word nothing itself has meaning, in this case as you can see your mind interprets as something negative. Seeker: So Is empty? Buddha: Not Empty. Seeker: Nothingness? Buddha: Not Nothingness.

Yes. Letters of Bassui, in Kapleau, Three Pillars of Zen: 4. To a Dying Man Your Mind-essence is not subject to birth or death. It is neither being nor nothingness, neither emptiness nor form-and-color. Nor is it something that feels pain or joy. However much you try to know [with your rational mind] that which is now sick, you cannot. Yet if you think of nothing, wish for nothing, want to understand nothing, cling to nothing, and only ask yourself, “What is the true substance of the Mind and of this one who is now suffering?” ending your days like clouds fading in the sky, you will eventually be freed from your painful bondage to endless change. 8. First Letter to the Zen Priest Iguchi An ancient Zen master [Rinzai] said: “You should not cling to the idea that you are Pure-essence.” And again: “Your physical body, composed of the four basic elements, can’t hear or understand this preaching. The empty-space can’t understand this preaching. Then what is it that hears and understands?” Meditate fully and directly on these words. Take hold of this koan as though wielding the jewelsword of the Vajra king. Cut down whatever appears in the mind. When the thoughts of mundane matters arise, cut them off. When notions of Buddhism arise, likewise lop them off. In short, destroy all ideas, whether of realization, of Buddhas, or of devils, and all day long pursue the question “What is it that hears this preaching?” When you have eradicated every conception until only emptiness remains, and then cut through even the emptiness, your mind will burst open and that which hears will manifest itself. Persevere, persevere—never quit halfway—until you reach the point where you feel as though you have risen from the dead. Only then will you be able to wholly resolve the momentous question, “What is it that hears this preaching?” PS: The answer to every Koan is a state of being. Or rather, Being. Infinite Being. The answer can never be demonstated in a forum by text only. But they can be given or stated by text only. Who is Selling Water by the River? PS: I personally like more the (compared to Zen) much more technical way of Mahamudra for actual practice, especially Pointing out the Great Way style, which I consider more efficient for most. But the letters of Bassui are pure poetry for me. They express the essence, and they can touch deeply. Especially if there is an intuition of that which Bassui is aiming at. It seems "he" speaking to us across a distance of over half a millenia. Yet, his true essence is right here, right now. Always.

Nice i enjoy this discussion between consciousness and nothingness. Although i think it’s leading nowhere (because there is nowhere)

but its hard to argue against the fact that behind your eyes, there is Nothingness. in deep sleep, there is Nothingness. and Nothingness, in virtue of it being Nothing, permiates all of existence. I think its fair to draw a distinction between Nothingness and consciousness, but also notice that the Nothingness EXISTS. which to me indicates that it is still a certain degree of consciousness, and thus consciousness can plausibly be viewed a the Absolute imo. But one should not lightly cast away the notion of Nothingness, since it is the closest thing to an antithesis of consciousness that exists

@Leo Gura whats ur take on the Absolute being Nothingness, beyond consciousness? several spiritual traditions seem to point to this

The problem with these methods is that every mind is different, with profound differences. For me, trying to focus the mind is torture and impossible. True meditation began in a way that seems quite silly, reciting a mantra while walking down the street constantly: nothing means nothing. Little by little I was accepting this fact. It doesn't mean that nothing means anything in general, but that I want to put myself in a state of mind in which meaning is deactivated. When you deactivate meaning, the mind stops creating conceptual thought threads, they fade away naturally. This doesn't mean that you have broken through the mental boundaries completely, but that you have gone down from the superficial conceptual layer, you are outside of it, the mind becomes liquid, fluid, but it is still limited. You can go for quite a long time without any thoughts, because if they don't mean anything, you don't need them to survive. Then you can try something else: you become aware of your sensory perception, of sounds, the sensation of your body, the sensation of the flow of reality. Is this the reality? Or are you the one who perceives these sensations? Are you the witness of the flow that occurs, of perception? So, without this flow, this witness, what is it? If you separate yourself from perception, the perceiver reveals himself as a non-existent point, there is no perceiver without perception, there is absolutely nothing. Is this nothing the final realization? No you have to be able to bear this, because the first time is horrible, it is perceived as death. If you are able to bear the sensations of absolute absence, horror of emptiness, it happens that nothingness reveals itself as the absolute, the absence of limits implies the total, then nothingness opens up and reveals itself as everything. It's like the nothingness opens and it's full. Full of what? Of you. You are that, the absolute

Exactly, without duality conciousness ceases. You could say: really there is not duality because everything is the same, etc, but anyway the appearance of two is needed. Without consciousness there is cessation, but cessation simply means absence of consciousness, not absence of absolute reality. Awakening, or enlightenment on whatever you want to call knowing your true nature means realizing that the reality beyond perception, nothingness, not the void in which you are aware of the void, but nothingness, meaning nothingness as the absence of any perception, is the living totality, the absolute potential. It is not a logical mental understanding, it is an opening that occurs in you when you transcend precisely the consciousness

ive been contemplating this consciousness duality. the fact that without an object of consciousness, consciousness ceases. im not sure i think thats true. i think it can be argued that consciousness actually IS the absolute, unchanging true Nothingness/deep sleep, from which all things, including experience emerge. the nature of consciousness is simply such that if it has nothing to know itself in relation to (duality), it cannot know that it itself actually exists. so the vast Nothingness without apperances (absolute) is actually pure consciousness. but its consciousness which is not aware of itself, since consciousness only can know that it exists through duality. Nothingness still has to be Something, since it is something that can actually be experienced, through cessation or deep sleep, meaning there is still a degree of sentience present.

Do this mental exercise: imagine that you would be yourself without sensory perception. Then imagine yourself without memory, then without mental movement. What would you be aware of? Absolutely nothing. Your field of perception would be nothing, so there would be no time, but this would be the absolute, the total potential from which infinite manifestations can emerge. This is the absolute, the nothingness that is everything, something outside the possibilities of thought or imagination, you could be open to it but not perceive it because perception, or conciousness, are happenings that happens in that potential Of course conciousness "always" happens, because no conciousness is out of time, then without conciousness it's not happening, but it doesn't mean than conciousness is absolute, it's just an arising, but this arising always happens because when it's not happening is not "when", it's never, but this never is the absolute. Some meditation is needed The human mind needs a concious cause for the cosmos, because an unconscious cause can't be imagined, but this concious cause would be relative. Absolute means total, don't need intention, be aware of itself, just because it's absolute. It is without will or awareness, it's because can't not be, then don't need any conciousness, conciousness just arises, as anything else Real awakening means be open to the absolute in yourself. You are that absolute that can't be thought or imagined, and for "you" is the same be conscious or unconscious. It's just difference of state.