Search the Community

There honestly is not that much to elaborate. All that exists is THIS. When you think of "something else", then that thought is part of THIS. So THIS is all that can and does exist. It's as simple as that. The most profound truths are always the most simple ones... which is exactly why the monkey mind vehemently rejects them. The mind loves making things complicated, thus distracting itself from that which could otherwise not be more obvious. And what would that nothingness look like? Look around. THIS is nothingness expressing itself through form. Without form, there is no experience; without experience, there is no reality. Which is why I always say that "nothing" and "something" are two sides of the same coin. It's not that one indicates the absence of the other; they are simply two aspects of one and the same thing. TL;DR: There is nowhere to go and nothing to change. THIS IS IT!

This is profound . Could you elaborate please? 🙏 But nothingness or formlessness forever is not nonexistence .

Hi I am new here, I have to say this guy was the start of my journey long ago after watching his video who am I? It took me through shadow work which was scary, but I did it and over come my fears, I had a shadow guide that helped me on the other side, I can say darkness is beautiful, there is no evil there, it’s just space, nothingness and blissful, I have rid myself of all beliefs, and it is wonderful, I feel like hugging this guy, and sending a big thank you. My whole life has changed, relationship separate, I feel free and out of the old pattern, am finding myself more and more, who I will become is another question? something I wanted to ask is how I seem to be vibrating very high 3khz it gets so unreadable at times, I don’t know what I am suppose to do with it, and it changes frequency on both sides, I see geometry shapes in my vision, and as I manipulate the shapes, the frequency changes, I am still practicing with this, to find a balance between both, I wonder am I channeling? If anyone has had similar experience?

I've quoted most of what he said because it's truth based on what i've experienced and know, on the highest consciousness level i ever was there was just an infinite mind/vibration in nothingness/void. I was that mind, but no control since it is infinite. Consciousness is a compilation of random events, but here it takes form as stability because you want to live this imaginary life as co-creator/god to share your own love for yourself

You are god in the sense that what you really are is the infinite reality that exists and manifests, but you are not in the sense that the self that is perceived as the center of experience and that questions whether others exist, It is a transitory creation that dissolves into nothingness. It's very easy to get confused. very difficult to understand the subtle difference, how the experience is created. You have to dissolve yourself totally many times to start to have a glimpse

Here I am again angry at myself because 10min ago I was in a very weird nothingness place now im back to normal egoic consciousness like they call. I´m so tired of going back and forth from mystical to cotidian life. Is so frustrating for us, for people that haven't seen the other side they don't know what they are missing. We know what we are missing, which makes it very frustrating. And when people ask for guidance Everyone just answers with bullshit replies such as 'don't worry you are god you are choosing to be limited' and more crap like that.

Let's just say....the best grounding is nothing. If you ever find yourself in a hellish experience, you can ground yourself in nothingness. I don't disagree with anything you have said thus far because you have spoken truth obviously. But let's just say the point is to stop ourselves from falling too deep in the dream. It is wonderful to know that the safety valve is NOTHING. LOL, sounds so stupid to say considering what humans actually think nothing is.

@Vibroverse Yes. When I follow the guidance of my heart, I see life where I saw death before. And I see hate as a lack of love. I see lies and fear where there is no courage for truth. There are no problems if you stay true to your heart. @Razard86 Yes. We are no one going anywhere. But we (the supreme "I") co-create this realm to have full human experience. To create any experience, you need a ruleset. A framework. Points of reference. If you find your original state of pure nothingness as the ultimate value, go back to it via some maha samadhi and why bother?

How do you distinguish between emptiness and nothingness personally? I find the 7th Jhana (Nothingness) particularly hard to get into also. If anyone has advice on that, I’d appreciate it.

This is something "ME" wrote 2 or 3 years ago and has since been modified to the current "ME"! It helped "ME" tap into the Unknown "ME" The "ME" that can play with infinite "MEs" lol...... I struggled with the “I” and "I AM" But after having one of several Aya DMT trips, I substituted it with “ME” The more aware and expanded “Me” became, the more difficult it was for "Me" to use words to describe awareness and knowingness. It’s like the words “Nothingness and Somethingness”. I struggled for years with these words after experiencing a state of no-thought, no-form, no-universe, no-nothingness and no-somethingness during my second Aya experience back in 2017, and yet, I was aware of a “Me”-ness a Knowingness beyond sensations and thought. Some people use the word Absolute God Consciousness to express nothingness, somethingness, love, oneness, void, etc. But I struggled with the word “God”. Perhaps because of the dogmas that are associated with those three combined letters, and what the "I AM" was subconsciously attached deep within EGO ingrained beliefs and emotions. “Me” has since found the words “All-That-Is”, which for “Me” best describes the word God and the words Nothingness, somethingness, love, etc. which also points to the state of awareness that cannot be defined, explained, or touched with singular thought, patterns of thoughts or with concepts! "All-That-IS" is also a concept! And can only point to "ME"!!!! “Me” is just “ME” “ME” is Absolute Freedom! And yes, "Freedom" is also a concept! Lol.......

Yes. It’s just something I noticed when I embarked on this journey. I wasn’t following anyone or reading anything when I tried to figure out a way how to discern what was true and ended up having a spontaneous mystical experience where the whole of reality dissolved and there was nothing left except a dim awareness… which was nothing, nowhere, no time etc. shot back into reality in shock as an atheistic science fanboy having stared infinity in the face recognising it as god and me simultaneously and freaking out. I Tried to figure out what happened and came across an actualised video talking about neti neti meditation that sounded like what I had just done. I took it further by getting comfortable then with psychedelics and discovered the consciousness part during my first ever cannabis ceremony. The facilitator said I was the first person he ever had collapse unconscious but for me it was straight back to the infinity ‘non’ space of dim awareness and I became the thing I was trying to understand. I had to pull myself from that awareness and focus myself into a mind ( some form of mental mechanism with an order to it) but it itself was also infinite. An infinity pulled from infinity almost like two sides of a mirror. One infinity or darkness, nothingness, awareness looking out and the other infinity a mind projecting mental forms, dreams, imaginings reflecting back at itself to discover itself as something as opposed to nothing. I had to focus my mind, consciousness and create structured forms and narratives to recreate the reality I just dissolved or I was not getting back in there. I essentially imagined myself back into a human and became aware of how I was doing it. I became aware of how god imagines things into being including ideas, thoughts, coherent thoughts and linear thoughts to perceive linear moments or ordered time. I was creating it as I was focusing it with thoughts. To hold it within my consciousness I had to believe it was real. I had to deceive myself into believing I was a human and forgetting what I really was and suddenly remembered how I got into this mess 🤦‍♂️. I did it to myself. that’s where I understand Leo’s description of infinite consciousness or the exploration of the mind of god that on the reflective side of the mirror (symbolic description) there is an endless exploration of consciousness, forms, realms, realities, states of consciousness etc etc which is what you get if you go beyond bog standard awakening or enlightenment ( taking that to mean the discovery of the infinite nothing void that is the truest fundamental). coming back a little bit within that awareness void is where consciousness resides. Having become familiar with the placebo tool belief, I’ve been able to shift realities at night while going down into subconscious states so I can explore. strangely I find it easier to explore consciousness this way than with psychedelics. Psychedelics dissolve me too much and bring me to abstract realms where all the exploration and understanding is imageless and formless. I prefer being able to construct ordered realities so I can explore them. I do go into psychedelic like spaces from time to time including 5MeO space but it’s rare and I do psychedelics when I find myself getting rigidly attached to beliefs about this world just to release myself again. it’s wonderful but no one around here ( where I live or even the integration groups from the ceremonies) really understands. This forum helps as there are those who have experienced that and I recognise the same experiences even if they are described differently. so yeah I’m a perception within consciousness and all narratives consciousness conjures up about its forms or existence on this side of the mirror are a way of justifying their existence as real, dissecting them and creating ever deeper stories about them is consciousness expanding itself out, separating itself into more and more ‘things’, decentrating itself…another deception because consciousness itself is still an occurrence within awareness. To get back to awareness it concentrates back to single pointedness or singularity. shit!….. sorry im just after having a small god realisation sitting here. It comes and goes 🤣

I really think that my life is nothing. So I wanna take a university course again. No matter how I age. Or I just wasn't doing anything with my life. Like right now, I'm struggling everyday with nothingness. With nothing to do. I woke up. And wonder what I'll do. Killing time. I'm really am doing nothing. I wish I would have a really productive day. And feel really sleepy at night. While now I'm always wide awake. Not really sleepy either.

Fear is the inherent fear of being a human, it is what keeps you now in a mental capsule, grasping everything with your mind creating an illusion of security and control. Now you are floating in infinity, and you know nothing, there is nothing to hold on to. This, now, is eternity. You can open yourself to it right now, it is the total glory of existence, the unfathomable depth. You just have to let your mind fall into nothingness. It is not stopping thinking, it is letting down the one who wants to stop thinking.

Reality is nothing. And you could say in a sense that nothingness is “unstable”. It’s so nothing that it immediately has to inflate into everything possible. Reality is nothingness inverted or turned inside out so to speak into everythingness.

@Dodo Consciousness=existence is held true in some traditions, like Advaita, in others not. But why give any concept, existence or consciousness or bliss or nothingness or brahman, a privileged position in relation to absolute truth? (Not a leading question, I don't have a good answer!)

@Dodo But why equate existence with absolute truth? Why not nothingness? Or consciousness or spirit or brahman? Why does existence get such a privileged position?

Just finished listening to this, it's amazing. Here's a few of my favorite excerpts "A huge part of psychological health is realizing that when I die, life doesn't end. My life in this form ends, but life continues. I get to be here, part of this whole game of life for a little while, and like what a fucking miracle that there's experience as opposed to no experience. There could just be nothing. As soon as I realized like, I got to see a tree, I got to see a sunset, I got to see color, I got to hear sound, as opposed to just nothingness … the mindset of "what's in it for me I need more" is a fucking mental illness. The realization that existence exists and I'm apart of it for a little while is awakeness, and then I would totally choose to incarnate just to have experience at all, even a little bit of it as opposed to nothing. " "Before, when I reflected on last year, what do I do this year, what to do this coming year on January 1st, etc., whatever it is, I'm always reflecting in light of thinking I can do it over differently next year. When people are on their deathbed, that doesn't happen. There's a deeper type of reflection. I've been on so many death beds with people, Daniel's parents were awesome to take him to assisted living homes and could have that experience. He's never met old people who spent their time wishing they had fixed themselves more and their "if I could do it over again" wasn't a narcissistic focus. That just never happened. What was really meaningful was always the ways they express love to people and the ways they offered things. It will outlast them and the ways that they appreciated life. "

It begs the question why even manifest reality at all. Everyone would benefit from nothingness existing for eternity.

All of these are mental structures that occur within the sleeping state. The first step awakening is to realize that it is the same thing to say I am God or I want to fuck my cousin. They are mental structures, they are within the structure that is the human psyche, something that it seems that no one here understands. awakening is leaving the human psyche. This is extremely difficult, because there is not someone above who wants to get out of the human psyche, but it is the human psyche itself that wants to get out of itself. It is a labyrinth, the door without a door. then the human psyche creates false exits, like I am god, others do not exist, or any other story. Awakening is much more difficult, very intelligent and courageous people have been trying for 8000 years, and few have achieved it. Now with psychedelics, less intelligent and less courageous guys can achieve it, but you have to be quite intelligent and have enough courage. intelligent to not fall into those silly traps, brave to be able to dissolve the self into nothingness, to jump without a safety net. Awakening is the real thing, not an idea.

Im not learning from Leo, I already told you before that I am not interested in written or oral spirituality, since all of these are structures that are of no use to me, for me all of that is toxic. The only spirituality is the reality now, free of structures and obstacles. It is a fairly long path in which you have to release all your energy blockages created by the fear inherent to the human condition, and be able to open the human mind as if it were a plant closed in on itself that opens completely. Psychedelics and meditation are a tool but not a guarantee, no one can do this for you, only you can do it. You can use psychedelics to help, but the action of opening yourself completely to the now, without barriers, can only be done by you, and to do so you must let yourself fall into nothingness. It is difficult, the will must be unequivocal. If it is not, you can make 1 kg of 5meo which will not work. I have done that total opening many times, and I have tried many others with partial openings that lead to confusion. Real mysticism is subtle and the traps are many. I would say that any structure, certainty of knowing something, means that you have fallen into a trap

Well, I do like talking about myself God where to begin. I don't really wanna type up a book. PM me and we can talk over the phone. You can't put your awakenings into one post. I'd like to hear about yours too. I will suffice it to say that no self is enlightenment. The realization of no self. The next for me was nothingness. That crushed me. The next was Infinity. This was beautiful- but so powerful it exploded my body. The last was total Oneness. This is synonymous with Aloneness.

Those two statements are solipsism, and I think that they are two ideas that have no relation to awakening, and that are also not true. I am God imagining reality: This means that I am something: God. and that I am is performing an action, which is projecting mental images, a dream, and this dream is the result of the action. So if I stop dreaming, reality would disappear, but I, God, would remain. So I God would be reality? And what is that god exactly? I tell you what it is: it is the ego. The second statement: there is nothing outside your direct experience, implies that reality is limited to your current experience. not only impossible to know but irrelevant. Awakening is not knowing those things, but opening yourself to what reality is. The configuration of reality creates the self, the center, container of experience, which you confuse with a god who creates something. Reality is unlimited and therefore there is no real center, there is no i that can claim to be god. The only illusion there is the sensation of a self. To truly open yourself to the now you must let the self fall into nothingness, that is, dissolve the illusion of a center, and to do so, among other things, abandon the need to understand. To know that there are no others or that you are God is to understand, it is self. If you drop the serf, reality is revealed as unfathomable depth, living existence without limit. This existence is not one, it is not two, it is the infinite without center. absolute horror for the ego, which is why it is difficult to do it. reality is one, it is a realization that only the self can make, and therefore it is not real. Reality is truly indefinable, completely. Any definition is within existence, and therefore is limited, useless and false. The only awakening is the opening now to total existence. Doing this for more than a few moments is difficult, it is like putting two magnets with the same pole together, they tend to move apart, to become two again. It is a very subtle art. The opening I had two days ago for example was complete, but it is not something that can be defined, nor really remembered, since it is a memory that is not that. Any memory needs structure, and awakening is without structure. The ego does not like this, and tries strategies, such as solipsism, I am God, this is exactly like that, I am dreaming, etc. All that means nothing, grips for the mind

@Princess Arabia I had to laugh out loud while reading this... these conceptual crazy trains of thoughts about thoughts are an absolute marvel of absurdity, lol! And of course, I am not talking about this train of thought specifically, but about conceptual thinking in general. It's ability to complicate the most simple thing in existence is truly an amazing sight to behold... Sure, if you don't turn a thing into a concept, it becomes (or rather stays) everything. But then it's no longer a thing! It's not 'consciousness', it's not 'you', it's not 'me'... it just IS. Isness itself, so to speak. Which is impersonal, formless, without quality, can neither be observed or be observing. So pure Isness itself is not an experience, because there is nothing about it to experience, you see? You cannot even call it 'nothingness', because even nothingness is 'something' aka. a concept. And guess what... 'pure Isness itself' IS OF COURSE A CONCEPT TOO, which makes everything I just said null and void. Muuuahahaha... Well, take a guess what 'the mind' is. Hint: It starts with a C... and no, I am not talking about the four letter word. Can a concept conceive another concept? Ponder that, if you got nothing better to do for the next thirty minutes.

In my experience, Oneness = Love. Feels incredibly good and brutally blissful, but there seems to be an even higher place: Absolute Nothing, "no center", as @Breakingthewall says If Love/Oneness feels like Blissful unity, Nothingness feels like an explosion of empty Ecstasy. I've only touched seconds of that state of consciousness in my lifetime but they are worth decades of suffering of how it feels. And please of course let's not confuse the nothing I talk about with the advaita nothingness. The nothingness I talk about is something beyond freedom. Is an explosion of Ecstasy due to the fact of no center or self at all exists. Is pure flow of Nothing, completely empty, in all directions. Reality at this point is not "Real" or Alive. Is just Ectsay in all directions. Pd: Probably this is how it feels to be "dead". (You become Energy free from a body, and lose the imaginary self-consciousness center that existed when you had a body)

@Water by the RiverRiver6RiverRiver6RiverRiver6RiverR That nothingness you speak of is, obviously, something, or better, everything. nothing in the sense of absence of structures. I think that in the end the matter is simple (although not easy): all structures must fall. Doing this is extremely difficult, but not a miracle reserved for mystical saints, anyone who understands what the structures are can do it. It looks scary, but that's completely stupid. It's like a guy on top of a skyscraper looking out the window who can't stop holding on to a handhold. He can let it go, he will stay the same, in the same place. It is a practical exercise, an action that is carried out. For our specific case, rather than letting go of a handle, we have to let go of the self, and the self is really the perception that we are the center, the recipient of the experience. It is difficult to do this because really throughout our lives every movement, perception, sensation, leads to this feeling of center. The way to do it is the will to open, which is in some way the opposite of the will to hoard experience. generosity vs greed. That is why any greed, like the need to interpret, closes, brings back the self, which is like a steel door planted in the middle of experience, a black hole that absorbs all perception. From my experience I can say that it is getting easier (although difficult) since the freedom that is given is total, so the psyche gets used. It becomes obvious that it is reality, what the absence of limits causes: the source of existence, life flowing from the abyss of the infinite. What it is about is making a shift from the perspective of form to the unlimited perspective, which is the truly real one, and more that a perspective is to become that. It is extremely difficult to keep that open for more than 1 or 2 minutes, since at the same moment that the mind tries to interpret, the door closes. but that is the reality now, no other. the infinite flowing without limit. The beauty of this is total, the structured human perspective is still attractive, but only if the infinite is constantly transparent, and for this we must lighten the mind, remove all the density. Regarding the typical : you are God creating reality, well...I would say that that is a misunderstanding, it's the openess that happens with psychedelics without the act of let go the self, so the self perceives itself as God. but I can't say for sure. What I see (speculating a bit) is that reality is impersonal, it is a like a flow, and this flow given the absence of limits manifests as life and intelligence without limit, and this gives rise to cycles, to structures that are created and dissolved cyclically, with no one behind creating them. . Reality organizes itself in the cosmic cycle, which is like a dance of beauty that always points towards more complexity because it really wants to be, it rejoices in its dance. You can call this god, but it is so impersonal that the word god does not fit. It's not a god doing things, it's the nature of reality, a natural phenomenon. although as I already said my opening times are brief. but a second is a long time if the aperture is wide There are many layers, it's not just silence, it's openess. You could be in silence and closed and with some frequency of thought and open.