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The wonderful part of this work, is the ones who have not awakened eventually get tired of pretending that they have. You can only pretend for so long to be what you are not. Eventually God gets tired of acting and trying to be a specific identity in the appearance of existence.

Osho made a very good point, that when Bodhidharma said that an awakened person drops their clothes, he did not LITERALLY mean to drop their clothes. Clothes was a metaphor for the egoic false self.

Let's just say I called reality's bluff. Let's just say after I awakened I still couldn't believe it so I did some crazy dangerous shit....and nothing happened. I won't share it because I don't know if it will happen for you the way it did for me. Let's just say...you have been severely deluded on how life works. This is why I said, if you don't confirm something for yourself it is just a belief. This is how you discover what is true and what is false. I don't even want you to believe anything I say because believing anything someone says is a waste of time. What you do is you do your own research, and if the research requires you to put some skin in the game and take risks you do it if you want the truth. If you don't, you admit you don't want to confirm it and go on your way. The problem is people want to skip steps in life and make unverified claims. I can tell based on what people say whether they are awake or not. Understand that the more rigid your mind is the more limits you have. For example one of the dumbest things the OP put is that dreams don't have continuity. Do you know how stupid that is? He actually believes that as an absolute dreams don't have continuity? That alone tells you he DID NOT DO RESEARCH. Do you know how many people have recurring dreams? PLENTY OF PEOPLE. Also notice he never talked about day dreaming. Is day dreaming not dreaming? Also notice he doesn't realize that thinking about the PAST is ALSO DREAMING. You see? He creates distinctions in his mind and actually thinks those barriers exist. His mind is like a child, and he actually believes he smart. Making claims that he has raised objections nobody has ever made....while actually NOT researching into the claims people have made. Do you know how self-absorbed and dishonest you gotta be to do no research and then make claims you are the only person to make those claims. My God the arrogance in that one. Like I can't even take this guy seriously....he doesn't have enough humility to know when he lacks sufficient information to make claims. Also.....there are multiple sources both academic and non academic that verify that reality is a dream/imagination. Leo isn't even the first to say it. Also...you can actually verify it for yourself like I did. I literally live in that state all the time. The problem is you have to risk your sanity. I went to the psyche ward 3 times, had a short term bout of uncontrollable hallucinations. Then after 3 edible trips I broke through permanently. Before those edible trips though I was shown it was a dream. Once I went to the void, the actual void. Everything disappeared and I was floating in a void. Once a multi-dimensional being appeared and tried to pull me away and I resisted it and it merged with me. Another trip time stopped. I walked outside and everyone was frozen still. This actually happened on two occasions the second time not as long. Another trip I walked outside and people around me walked in unison with me and only moved when I moved. Eventually I got tired of entering these states through substances and even with proof in front of me that it was a dream I got REALLY SERIOUS. I did something VERY STUPID on PURPOSE repeatedly, I was like if I am going to die for the truth I will. So I called the bluff and put my physical body on the line because even though I knew it was a dream I wanted to see if the dream would protect me. IT DID. ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. Not only did it protect me, it gave me an awakening out of the blue to share its love with me. The only reason I don't share this part because I don't want some idiot doing the stupid shit I did and actually ending their dream. I don't know why I keep being spared but for whatever reason I am spared. If you want to know what I did I'll message you but I won't share it on the forums. But yeah anybody telling you its not a dream is full of shit absolutely and cannot be trusted. In fact if they claim they know its not like the OP, they make Donald Trump look like a saint in comparison of how dishonest they are. This isn't to demonize them, they are just lying to get some attention.

Depends on how you want to look at it. You could say God has never lived a life, because a life has a beginning and end and God always was. You could say infinite lives because God is infinity You could say life is just an appearance of nothing, so nothing ever happened You could say your life is the only life you know so if you have awakened as God this is the first time God has awoken. ^^^Depends on how you look at it.

So I made a mistake by trying to name my dog: God. While my intent may be pure but it doesn't go well with what God Is. As I contemplated and awakened more deeply here's what I realized: God is Everything. God is nothing. God is the substance as well as the character which is built from the substance as well as combination of all characters. God is Infinity. There's nothing but God. In that sense, Everyone's (every finite self's) name shall be God. To put it simply: Ego Is God. Yet God is not just ego. God is every ego. God is The Superset. I can only bow down now to God. And I see that I am just a spoiled bitch of God I have decided a new name for my dog which is Vision. I will bring Vision home in coming February. Until then I will get all my shit together: work, strong routine, convincing my parents, etc. I have already succeeded in convincing my parents to bring him however they are not as excited as I am. I want to create excitement about him in their mind. I don't want Vision to feel that he is "unwanted" to even a slightest degree. Now coming to something I wrote recently: My contemplation regarding 'Mistakes' Here's my pov on mistakes: - - Mistake is not a mistake if it's our first time making that mistake. It is just ignorance. We can overcome this through learning/awareness/knowledge. - Mistake is not a mistake if it's our second time making that mistake. It is our failure to learn from the first time. We can overcome this through upskilling our learning ability itself. How? 1. By becoming more observant 2. Making more distinctions 3. Behaviour change (Yes, they are taken from titles from Actualized video series about learning) - Mistake is not a mistake if it's the third time making the same mistake. It's arrogance which can cost a lot. We can overcome this by deep self reflection and resolving and dealing with the insecurity masking behind the arrogance. - Mistake is not a mistake if it's the forth time making the same mistake. Either it's someone who is completely sleepwalking. Or it's someone intentionally doing so(have no idea why, maybe for seeking revenge or something 🤔) This must not be tolerated. Through this contemplation; I am clear that mistakes are not at all about punishment and reward - There is consequence for every action we take. - Making mistakes is how we learn and grow. - It's something to be invited and embraced not feared or guilted. - The biggest mistake is not making any mistakes. So now that we have realized this, we have prevented ourselves from falling into the trap of making the same mistake again and again and thus turning into a failure/arrogant/sleepwalker/revenge-seeker. Congratulations to us!! To sum up what I want to say: Make Mistakes. Mistakes are good. It's a process of growth. Make this your mantra whenever you are dealing with fear of making mistakes: Your infinite mistakes are already Forgiven. Now you play!!!!

Yeah, I bow all the time, hands in prayer pose, bowing. It’s a universal gesture of love and is empowering. I think some people here are too lost in intellectualising consciousness and that experience, that they end up getting stuck in their mind and on words instead of letting go of intellectualising, as it means nothing, feel from your heart, which is what you do, as that is the way. true enlightenment and the awakened state is wordless.

Nicely put. The dynamic and act are the same, the aesthetic is different. A distinction can be made that civilizational development amplifies the tools society has (technology, weapons etc) while cultural development awakens the consciousness of the user using those tools. The problem is modernity has amplified our tools to the point they can destroy the earth, but have we awakened enough to be able to wield that power well enough. it's easy to see the shiny buildings and sophisticated military and think 'oh their developed' and equate that with moral value and development.

How do you know what can be trusted then? You don't know. You rely on some sort of authority without applying direct experience. if you think that you can reach God's consciousness without psychedelics you're kidding yourself. I deliberately created psychedelics as a tool to re-awaken myself. I also created a bunch of mambo-jumbo techniques and so-called "awakened" gurus in order to trick myself.

I have had a dream with a version of Leo that was enlightened and simple. He spoke to me over skype, showed me his Ukulele, played it for a bit, his modest lifestyle and sweet girlfriend. He didn't speak to me a bout anything profound or nondual, rather it was all very ordinary and beautiful. Then he raised his hand or something (long time since then, i forgot the details) and within the dream I experienced how I merged with and became the entire dream and started moving as the dream rather than a character. Then I awakened from the dream. So you can say I awakened through Leo, like literally, not sensationalist spiritual statement.

Yes I have awakened through him, but also through Mooji, Babaji, Allan Watts, Tony Parsons and Ram Dass. Rupert Spira helped a little as well. All of them were important for my journey and surprisingly at certain points I didn't understand or resonate with them and then one day I just understood them deeply. It was really profound how it happened.

I've awakened in the form of Leo, and now helping this form by transmitting him what i've awakened to, to the degree that he's able to allow. And this form also is helping me in different ways. Being dancing with being.

I’m an OG Leo fan. Found him after my first LSD trip. And I can’t deny that I’ve been there alongside him through his awakenings. I feel like I’ve gone through the journey with him. Not just Leo, but also Frank Yang, and the whole collective unconscious. Although we’ve never met, there is definitely something transmuted through this magical thing called the internet. Leo doesn’t post much these days on YouTube and I feel like I understand why. I understand it, but in my own way, in my own flavor. Just wanted to share that.

It took me a while to realize what I as God want. I think the reason why I wasn't hearing myself is because I thought that there are others who knew what God wants. It turned out that my deepest desire isn't what spiritual figures or books are talking about. I've had a plenty of break-troughs on psychedelics and my direct experience keeps telling me this - I want to sleep and live in a world of others where everything is foreign to me. That's why I like this game. A lot of you guys have fantasies about being in a God mode and just living life as an awakened human. This idea is laughable . If you have this assumption - you're fooling yourself, probably because you've never had a deep god realization. Every time when I wake up I want to get back to my imaginary life. Ego has nothing to do with it, it's God. Moreover, ego is the one who's using psychedelics in order to escape God's illusion. From God's point of view living in complete ignorance is more fun than being awake. You know why? Well, because God has nothing to do. For now I decided to stop doing psychedelics until I'm 40. Now I'm just 26.

HAHAHAHH I love the fact that after you wake up you still populate people who try to debunk the dream. It is freaking hilarious!!!! DUDEE!!!! I don't care what you have smoked!!! What you don't understand...is if you don't want to awaken...YOU WON'T. So you can argue all day long. I know for fact you are full of shit because....when you awaken you realize you can only awaken if you really want too. And I mean REALLY WANT TOO. The biggest barrier to awakening are the following things. Fear of Death, Fear of Insanity, Fear of everyone you love being imaginary. Until you are willing to accept THESE THREE THINGS. YOU WILL NEVER AWAKEN!!! So until you face these fears...YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!!! You are just pretending you know what's going on and are too selfish to actually risk anything to find the truth. The part I loved the most is when you accused people of just parroting what they heard....if you haven't fully awakened...that actually describes YOU. The jokes on you. You are GOD DELUDING YOURSELF!!!! God made discovering itself a test of HONESTY!!!! The most dishonest people are the people who are asleep. Your TRUTH is CONDITIONAL. YOU CAN BE BOUGHT!!! At the slightest possible danger you will RUN AND HIDE!!!! Because you are not willing to give anything up. That's why awakening is the MOMENT OF TRUTH! And it reveals the TRUTH OF WHO YOU ARE. What kind of character you have raised...is this character a true seeker of truth? Or are they too self-absorbed. It's that simple. No judgment....but all it means is you care about your human self than you do about all of existence. If aliens created a bomb to wipe out all of existence, you wouldn't die for all of existence...you'd want somebody else to do it. Again no judgment...that is just the limit of your love and honesty and integrity. You have a price. Your a business man.

Entry: #014 Date: 31/10/2023 Time: 11:40 AM Subject: Various Topics I feel really good although I had some rough past few days as well as troubling dreams and nightmares. I am trying to wrap my head around my dreams and understand my subconscious mind. I'm not inspired that much to write about anything particular as the morning was never part of the they where I'm overflowing with ideas and insights but the nighttime always was. Vibration, Speed or Frequency of Thoughts Anyway, I'm creating some consistency in my life by doing what I love and writing some stream of consciousness down to digital paper. The thing that I concluded is that I like to write digitally for specific reasons, it's really fast, and even faster is when I record myself talking. My ability to formulate thoughts has a certain speed and writing down things in different ways has different speeds of course. When I write digitally or speak I feel like my writing or speaking matches my speed of thought. The Flow State, higher vs lower self That's a really interesting conclusion but the next one is that my speed of thought is not optimal and not constant all the time. At my peak, for example, during focusing sessions or deep work, while being influenced by the coffee, my mind can go at wild speeds and it gives a god-like feeling. It's feeling like everything is possible and that I'm able to do or understand anything. It's such an elevated state of consciousness that I'm integrated into the present moment very well. It's such an easy thing to do to stay self-aware or aware of my surroundings or to feel my body. It's the key. When combined with practices of semen retention and dopamine detox or better "practice of delayed gratification", it's god-like power. On the other hand, when I wake up, my thoughts are really messy and my state of consciousness is really low I have through the day with my efforts, elevated that state to a higher level. Somedays, it doesn't happen at all, I stay at the lower speed of thought all day and it's directly correlated to the addiction cycle as I'm prone on those days, to be less disciplined and eat junk food, being lazy, etc. I like the concept of lower vs higher self and I think that there is a lot of knowledge that is interconnected and needs to be extracted from those concepts. In my view, when it comes to the higher self, there is the elevation of consciousness, the ability to abstain from simple bodily pleasures, and the freedom to "be" and feel the higher emotions and the intellect that works at a higher speed and mental images as well as visual images that are pretty high resolution. Everything is high quality when the higher self comes. But, when it goes away, and all you are left is lower self, all human petty little problems arise. The mode of survival kicks in, the ego backlash kicks in. The mind becomes cluttered with thoughts that are lower resolution and kind of blurred in some way. Shift of consciousness happens, consciousness deescalates to the lower realms of reality and totally different kinds of desires arise from within. Sexuality becomes awakened in a primitive way, and addiction to foods, laziness, etc. becomes more likely. From god-like we downgrade to animal-like. We become different persons and we at those moments are usually controlled by our own emotions, we go as the wind blows. Sadly, many people live their whole lives in these primitive states, and this is even exploited by our society through various business that makes money by selling things that we crave, and we crave for the exact reason that we not living by our own deepest self, we are being manipulated and controlled by external events and circumstances. There is a lot of evidence and well-put examples as well as explanations of the previously mentioned mechanisms by P.D. Ouspensky on this paradigm. Reading, writing, speaking, and deep thinking I like to write, and I'm slowly falling in love with it as weeks pass by I find new ways to make it even more enjoyable and for now, it's great. I will continue to write and improve my English as I'm well aware that there is a lot of space for my English to be improved. Fast forward a few years or decades down the road, I will have the most valuable skills that one human being can have, and there are 4 of them: Thinking, writing, reading, and speaking. I deeply believe that they are lifelong learning skills and when you are highly developed in those 4, you can conquer the world, the internal feeling must be that you are unstoppable and I am not the only one who thinks this way. Even in Sidarta from Herman Hesse, there is a reference for what I mentioned about those skills. For example, Jordan Peterson, who is a 21st-century clinical psychologist and author, emphasizes the importance of those skills. Emotional Connection I don't know what to say, but my life is definitely going the right way as I feel it from the inside. My gut feeling never lies and it's usually 95% accuracy when it's intense. I think that introverted and extroverted intuition can be trusted as a string that connects are directly to reality. How to know what is true? Look deep inside of yourself and ask a question, the answer will be delivered at some point. When talking about emotional connection, this year is when I finally realized it. I was so deeply under self-deception because my brain from highjacked by porn and masturbation habits, that I didn't even have a true need for meaningful connection with people on different levels. I'm really grateful to the Universe for anyone who comes into my life either an ally, teacher, or my own student. I started to appreciate any and every conversation that I had in my life. When I am talking to a stranger on the street or just saying hi to a neighbor, the situation when I'm on a simple coffee with my mom, sister or father, or any other family member, talking with intelligent coworkers or talking with beautiful souls on social media or forum actualized.org. I really enjoy conversation and the moments of knowing that I have with other people. This all started really recently, maybe in the past month or so. I feel like I love people just by talking and caring for them in some fundamental sense. I feel like I just started to integrate some nuance of the green stage in the Spiral Dynamics model and it feels lovely and like a fresh breath of air. Many beautiful things start occurring in life when it happens that individuals transcend the lower-self state of consciousness and desires. One thing I can not say from this perspective is that more is better. Balance is the key in every sense. Actually, more is better, if desires are coming from higher states of consciousness. When there is nothing to do, just to be. It's wonderful how many things get done with great joy.

Solipsism is bittersweet. It's funny the first time I awakened to it I had no problem with it...then after awhile the backlash came...and I understood what Leo meant and why its bittersweet. For me the sweetness came first and the bitter came afterward. After realizing Solipsism...you understand that God is the amazing thing ever, it is absolute self-love but it has no other to share itself with...so it creates other to share itself. I can deconstruct and reconstruct Other at will...that is why they call it death...you destroy other...but you can now consciously delude yourself into other. I'll say words on a screen can delude me easier than a person in front of me can. That's just my bias though...I could deconstruct this bias if I wanted too... This is why Leo stated that Enlightenment is imaginary. Why is it? Because Enlightenment, Non Dual Baseline will still be experienced differently by every Enlightened Human. People who argue with him don't get what he is saying....because even though Solipsism is Non-Dual...it isn't the only kind of Non-Dual. For example...you could be aware there is no other....but also be aware that there is no death as well so much that all your dead relatives you experience them as still here. Now have I experienced this? No...but there are people who do experience that. I also know that if I desire to experience that.....I can just WILL IT. How do I know this? Because its the same with Solipsism...I willed it into my baseline experience.

I don't think so, It's just an action. For example, an idea is: reality is infinite love and you are that, and everything must exist since nothing is excluded because God is pure love and does not exclude anything. Those things Razard says. They are ideas that you add to the psyche, which is a software with many layers that is working continuously. Awakening is leaving the human psyche, and for this the first thing is to lighten it, and the way I see to lighten it is to realize that any idea is software of the psyche. But you don't realize it by thinking about it, or because someone tells you, but when you see it, and to see it you have to leave the human psyche, and for this psychedelics are very useful, also meditation. Without them what you do is add things to the psyche, and think that that is being awakened, that is what is called religion.

I don't know, for me the thing is to get totally empty of this kind of ideas. For example, to think: reality is love, it does not make any sense. If I am in an awake state, it is an awake state, then in a sleeping state, it is a sleeping state. to say: reality is this and this, it does not make sense because it is in a sleep state when you say that. so it's better not to think about it too much and try to open myself to awake states. Awakened states are not thinkable, you cannot grasp them from the sleeping state for the simple reason that you are in the sleeping state. and if you were in the awake state you would not be able to define anything because by doing so you would return to the sleeping state. When you talk about what reality is, it is clearly perceived that you are influenced by things you have heard or read, and you process them and translate them in your mind into images, they become reality by association with other ideas and create a real world. Awakening is just the opposite, it is getting out of there.

If I was never raised in the Christian Church (My Denomination was Seventh Day Adventist one of the most strictest denominations of the Christian Church) I would have never awakened. From my youth the story of Jesus touched me on a deep level and made me want to emulate him. I unlike most Christians took the story of Jesus seriously and his belief that we could be like him seriously as well. I also took the story of Solomon seriously as well. In the Bible when God asked Solomon what he wanted he prayed to God for wisdom, at the age of 16 I got on my knees and prayed to God for wisdom. I realize that God gave me exactly what I wanted. This is why life is absolutely fair, because you will be given exactly what you want, your true heart's desire. The issue is most people do not know what they really want and are running in circles. When I went through my trials and tribulations growing up, the story of Jesus and the other characters in the Bible were a symbol of how I could respond. The deep wisdom found in the Bible was illuminated and given to me. At the age of 16 I spent an entire year and read the Bible cover to cover and at the age of 20 I placed the Bible down never to own a Bible again. Why? Because I got the message. Study to show thyself approved, approved by what? Yourself. The message is just Self-Love. From the finite to the Infinite. Without the power of religion I could have never awakened, with that said I'm not saying religion is the only path for the youth to discover love. We have many great movies and t.v. shows and leaders both past and present who can teach the beauty of love. But for my path, my journey, religion was a core piece that was needed. It gave me strength, it empowered me both through its stories, but also the people I met in the Congregation as well. It gave me structure, and a model, a lens at which to look at life. Without that foundation I could have never awoken, without the devotion that religion instills in you the path of surrendering to love would be difficult. Religion is a perfect form of training wheels for the young, its a great form of laying the foundation needed to experience and understand love. The only problem? Many of the preachers....do not understand what Love is really at the deepest depths so they cannot speak it. But this is okay, because everything is always as it should be. All of life is always moving to greater and greater expressions and acceptance of what it is, and this too is why religion is so beautiful. People are dropping religion more and more because religion needs to rid itself of its judgments and understand what the story of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was really saying. Because the story literally tells you that everything God created was good and you only see evil through your human knowledge. Why did they call it fruit? Because the purpose of your knowledge is to digest it.....when your body digests food it takes what is needed and discards what is not needed. So the story is just telling you, take your knowledge and use it to survive, but expel any notions that anything is evil. There is no evil but anything that threatens your self-interest, and self-interest is just BUSINESS. When you create a world based on BUSINESS then you create a world based on self-interest and as a result that world becomes a competition for who can be the best at getting their own interests served, which is a competition for who can be the most selfish. As such....you make selfishness good, and selflessness evil. Thus you never digested the fruit, you never took a dump. What happens to people who cannot expel their feces? They get sepsis. So the world is septic because they never understood the point of survival, they never understood why eating the fruit caused the fall of man...it caused the fall of man because you never took a shit!!! LOL. Anyway religion is a fun way to use symbolism, epics, tales, to teach lessons. Like Aesop's Fables is a good story to teach lessons. I love religion even though I am not religious, because religion helped me awaken. With that said...I find it funny how Atheism and Religion are both right about God in their own way are secretly in agreement and also could both learn from each other. Because of the corruption in Religion, Atheism is borne. It is interesting how corruption always gives birth to a movement against it, it always divides and creates something new. I wonder how Atheism is going to birth a new Religion? How will religions change world wide...and what new religions are going to emerge from this conflict?

T What brings me back to contracted states, as you say, is the need to think about reality, the need to think about the material future constantly and to talk with people. To reach awakened states I need a lot of meditation time and sometimes some weed or LSD low dose. the entire afternoon in a park for example, with some stops to look at this forum. In the end sometimes I achieve states of total amplitude, something incredible, maximum. nothing is comparable, that's why I look for them. Also with 5meo dmt, but short and deep, not for stable openess, openess is with meditation. but then I return to my normal life and it is inevitable to return to a normal state, with my mind in constant movement. Living in a non-dual way seems impossible to me, bringing that to normal life.... how do you relate to people? The moment I interact with someone i fall into a mental state, talking, spinning thoughts. In the moment that i work or start to think about work, the same. Now thinking all time about society, the war,the human condition, how the humans are. That absorb the mind, it's like: ok, open states are wonderful, but first I have to understand what is a human

@Princess Arabia Haha dont you dare to assume that I did not think of that when I created this profile;) I assume myself to be sound asleep until, or if it becomes obvious that I ain't. To many people love to say how awake they are, but little of that shows in the way they speak or behave. That is the average of the so called awakened human.

Chat gpt say Eternity and Immortality: The snake, often depicted in a coiled form, is a symbol of eternity and immortality. This is because it sheds its skin, representing the cyclical nature of life, death, and rebirth. Kundalini Energy: The snake is closely tied to the concept of Kundalini, a dormant spiritual energy believed to lie coiled at the base of the spine. When awakened, this energy is said to lead to spiritual enlightenment and self-realization. Lord Shiva and Naga Devatas: Lord Shiva, one of the principal deities in Hinduism, is often depicted with a serpent around his neck or as a seat. This serpent, known as Vasuki, represents control over ego and desires. Additionally, Lord Vishnu is often shown reclining on the cosmic serpent Ananta-Shesha, signifying his omnipresence. Protective Guardians: Snakes, referred to as Nagas, are considered protective deities in Hinduism. They are believed to dwell in the subterranean realm, guarding treasures and providing shelter to serpents. Shesha-Naga: Shesha-Naga is a prominent serpent deity, often depicted as a multi-headed serpent on which Lord Vishnu reclines in his cosmic sleep. Shesha-Naga represents cosmic balance and support. River Goddess Ganga and the Serpent: According to Hindu mythology, the river goddess Ganga descended from the heavens onto Earth through the coils of Lord Shiva's matted hair, which was coiled like a snake. Creation and Destruction: In some Hindu creation myths, the serpent plays a pivotal role. For example, in the story of Samudra Manthan (the Churning of the Ocean), the serpent Vasuki is used as the rope to churn the ocean, leading to the creation of various divine gifts. Nag Panchami: This is a Hindu festival dedicated to the worship of snakes. It is celebrated on the fifth day (Panchami) of the bright half of the lunar month of Shravana. Devotees offer prayers, milk, and various offerings to snakes to seek their blessings and protection. Basically snakes are aliens I hear sadhguru say snake can hear your brain activity. Thats why you need to be calm and have no thought when handling them cause a loud mind will cause them to strike

With the energetic practices/meditation that you describe one can generate states that are awakened and boundless/nondual. But as soon as the energetic practice stops, the separate-self Gestalt/structure "kills" the nondual boundless blissful state when it comes back after practice. One can literally feel it contract back in the head. Its like applying medicine to a disease. Relieves the symptoms, but not the source problem (separate-self contraction. Literally contraction, creating contraction/location/center in the head and body). There are practices that dissolve the separate-self-contraction directly (the root-cause, or the source problem, and not just its symptoms, no nonduality and lacking bliss), in a way that the whole flow of I-thoughts/I-feelings is cut off in real time fast enough (Trekchö in Dzogchen for example, certain Mahamudra practices), That (dissolving all me-thoughts/concepts and -feelings) fast enough in real time (needs a lot of training) then leads to dissolving the sensation of being centered in the body (the contractions and localizations), and also leads to "hard" nondual/infinite Awakened states (then also off the pillow in daily life), including the "solidity" of the "outher" world being replaced by mere lucid appearance hovering in infinite Nothingness/Reality/Ones True Self as expressions of it, "seeing itself". Without these two shifts towards truly nondual awakened states (loss of center and mere appearance instead of solid external world), most of the talk/writing about it is just wishful thinking and conceptual speculation. It is not just thinking differently, these are "hard" awakened states. Only in these awakened states can the real state of Reality be realized, and the separate self slowly dissolved. Without these hard awakened nondual states, there is only illusion/duality/separate-self, and no chance to really realize what the underlying nondual Reality beyond the illusion/ignorance really is. I have the impression that is an important point for you, since you are among the rather few that actually practice and not just engage in conceptual speculation, but in generating these awakened states. And I agree fully on that. I have written extensively about these practices of Dzogchen/Mahamudra. If that is done proficient & fast enough, the mechanism of creating a separate-self and a localization & center stops, and one has these awakened boundless/nondual/infinite states of Infinite Nondual Consciousness in daily life when getting up from the pillow. I can confirm this from my own practice. It is too good to be true. Yet, it is true, and at that stage of practice always available. From that basis and in these states, one can dissolve the last remnants of the separate self contractions/localizations/lenses of perception in the burning of ones own infinite and impersonal True Being. The contractions that were the separate-self/ego melt like ice in the sun. I can only invite to try these techniques. In my experience, they are way superior to any standard concentration/energetic sitting meditation/practice. Exactly because it attacks the root-cause, and opens up Awakened Nonduality States in daily life. Mahamudra uses extensively concentrative sitting-meditation and energetic practices (Tummo for example) in the beginning, but goes beyond it as soon as possible. Off the pillow. Water by the River Here a description of the practice system I mainly used: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/92467-god-fucking-damn-it-another-meditation-rant-thread/?do=findComment&comment=1309816

the work the journey the process ... IS indeed isolating nobody understands nobody has been there nobody can possibly relate ... since you are doing you and nobody will ever do you like you do you this is the price of admission, you discard all the consensus thinking constantly thrust your way and you pledge to plunge into the beyond unaided when you reach the goal then you will be able to join the crowd in the market place and live life from this awakened consciousness you might throw in the towel since the pain is too great but eventually you will remount your horse since you see that's the only game in town so it can be two steps forward one step back sometimes one step forward two steps back no two are alike i bless you and thank you for being here and i send you love and light

"One" can act and communicate totally normal in these awakened nondual states (of infinite consciousness) after a certain time of getting used to them. Peak to plateau to permanent. Reality acts and communicates with itself then. Communicating with "somebody" not aware of the underlying nondual unity of Absolute Reality is then just communicating with an appearing perspective/being (although that is then most often confused and ignorant, believing to be separate) within ones nondual boundless visual field/Being. Loosing ones awakened nondual infinite state of consciousness while communicating with other "beings" gets less and less with ongoing practice. But it is then totally clear and intuitively understood (in these awakened states) that empty infinite Awareness is looking through the eyes/perspective of all beings. And it is the same as the empty impersonal Awareness of any being, or "of" Absolute Reality. Although in most other beings/perspectives this empty impersonal Awareness is mightily confused and covered with clouds of ignorance/separate-self-arisings/I-thoughts and I-feelings preventing this realization in that being/perspective... The most funny and endearing ones by the way are those that think they have realized Ultimate Reality/Empty Impersonal Awareness while doing their conceptual solipsistic gig. Selling Water by the River