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To put it into context, I am 24 living in one of the metropolitan cities in India. I understand how the term Incel is derogatory to women. Women don't owe me sex. At the same time, my body (or rather I) craves for sexual contact with women, when i get horny. Solo female pornography where women display their selves, is I think one of the most beautiful things a person like me could ask for, where i can choose the women i am attracted to, and pretend to make love to her. And spill myself. In real life however, i look average. I have a girl in my life, but it is long-distance. We haven't defined the relationship yet, but we flirt a lot and act like a couple. Went out with her like 4 times in total over 3 years. Yeah, poor numbers. That being said, the amount of rejections i've had to deal with, in nightclubs or otherwise while asking someone I know on Instagram is say about 60-70 so far in total. If i go to a nightclub tomorrow, i will probably end up with a number or two, but any attractive girl I choose (I know i'm guilty of not picking the ones I don't find attractive, i don't even notice them), will have 10 other dudes texting her, and commenting on her Instagram, and so it takes a lot of investment on my part to even keep a girl's attention, and much more for her to feel the spark if I feel it too. And given how busy everyone has become with their 9 to 7 jobs, at least here, it is like that. There's no time. I know i could just sit back and relax. Focus on other intriguing aspects of life such as books, psychedelics and spirituality in a broader sense, and run the clock out, as it will. I could be genuinely fulfilled as i am when i do strong determination sittings. My parents will force an arrange marriage on me when I turn 30, but i don't like the idea. I could go to Thailand or some Latin country for sex tourism, but i don't like that idea either. At this point in my conscious evolution, i see the meaninglessness in the things that will unfold in the future. Not in a negative connotation, but a sense of indifference. It doesn't matter. and if it does, i will do it. I am a cog in a wheel. I am replaceable even by a woman i love most dearly. I have cried like 5 times in the past when that happened, but now it doesn't break my heart anymore. I try because i don't have the freewill to not try. I just don't see what is there to do or accomplish in this world, than just live it out. Am i just here on earth as a human, to rant, to do my own thing, possibly bliss out, and that's it? I just cannot come to terms with it. With it all.

I'm just starting to be able to maintain the feeling of being "there" without getting knocked out. Again it only lasts a few seconds, but I am consious the whole time. It feels amazing. My ego hasn't dissolved though, but I feel connected and euphoric. It's a thick bliss that's like swimming in it, but it's not overly profound. It's just amazing.

I had a Kundalini awakening. It is the collapse of the illusion into Being. It is Being. It is Bliss. It is Love. It supersedes all language - nay - it encompasses all language and thought. It IS. Once you are opened up you are opened up. Being can flow through you at any time. Best not to plan for it because it comes when it wants to or when you align with Love.

It has happened for me naturally after 10-20 years of energy work and releasing blockages. The bliss in my body is euphoric. Sometimes there are pains as the Kundalini hits a blockage. No, I am not spiritually pure. I still think lustful. I still masturbate. I still eat meat. I may use DPT to gauge where I am at, but not as a crutch. I am not doing Kundalini Yoga. More like Bhakti Yoga, or the path of love. Is this a path towards enlightenment, doing what we love? I am not that good at meditation. The nonduality knocks me out like 30 times in a month. At least I think it's nonduality. I can't go into that state with my same awareness. Who else here is experiencing a Kundalini awakening? What are your experiences, and how can I allow the bliss without worrying that I will be overwhelmed by the bliss?

I ordered some DPT. Would it be effective to do this before doing 5meo? Yes, I've been in the flow, and I've been in love such that it made me cry and I felt expansive bliss out of my crown chakra.

Does God have a unique vibration? Just like an object or person would have a vibration that you can tune into and do energy work with. If I want to know God, and maybe psychedelics aren't the best choice for me, is meditation and Kundalini work enough to get me there to know God without taking 20 years? I already have had a Kundalini awakening and experience expansive bliss at times. So my chakras are open. I equate experiencing God with experiencing nonduality.

@Matt8800 I am not sure what you mean I enjoy the unkown quite a bit, yet this is very new to me Id like to explore it in the future where I feel I could use it in general when I feel I am ready for it, there are still some very basic fears that are not of the unknown just fear of darkness like a kid it just scares me sometimes for a reason because of the weird shapes I see etc. Id have to mention this also most likely... yes I do fear evil. The intention alone is very frightening, of course facing it is brave and facing it with love is ultimately what I feel is appropriate. Also there is quite a bit of projection that I feel is projected upon me, I dont value things based fear or rate things based on fear I found it unbelivable that one person could do and did "such" evil rituals and that is why I compared him to Hitler in the first place, I said this more jokingly yet apparently that did not came across with the lol at the end. Yes, I do understand that one can forge either good or evil, depending on how the practice is used. As far as Ive read through the responses I can see what the occult is in reality about and that what I know about the occult has been distored and polluted, by the christian church. I know also know that Taoism can be contrasted with the Occult and Christians would and do demonize Taosim, and that there are similarities between Taoism and the Occult. Yes, as I said before I did not know anything about the occult and I was curious about the positive view because I saw the negative side of it. Now I see again what it is about. In case it came across as if Id generalized I do apoligize for that I did not mean to do that or to come across like that. I am very interested in biases in general, so I was not trying to confirm something that I believe rather the complete opposite. That is why I asked in the first place. Please dont misread my intentions. Well who can can lol. Id love to be that way yet that takes work and reading the right books etc. having concrete information and experiences that serve as a guide. If Id feel so loving as I felt for instance on LSD in a conscious setting while meditating as well as after some meditation sessions, I would have tried the stuff all on my own before asking most likely if I heard of it. I figure nothing will be dark since everything would be love, beauty, bliss and purity. Without all of the societal connotations of these words, more experiantially based. Not sure, I did shadow work for 2 years and been thrown into situations where the unknown overwhelmed me and I had to deal with that chaos, yet this is a whole new dimension. Crowly was for me just an interesting figure since I never heard any of this and he influenced even contempoary history with all of his deeds. I am not at a point, yet where Id not feel outraged about such acts. I know I am asking a lot of questions, yet could you recommend a specific book where I could read to practice this, so I can see for myself in the future ? I am not denying any of this and am rather intruiged by it as I saw other reports about positive spirits etc. Could they also appear normally in meditation through a normal practice ? Or is this rather unlikely ? Id like to dive into it because I was interested in shamanism and when I am done studying and all of that Id like to explore this topic a bit in reality.

@Aakash That is because you are over-emphasizing the truth. The truth does not have to deal with anything, it is itself. It is your ego that cares. As I heal myself emotionally, this 'pointlessness', or rather 'directionlessness' becomes more similar to 'contentment', 'happiness', 'joy', 'bliss', 'love', 'ecstasy' and so on until it is simply silence. This is much more than I have ever hoped for.

@fridjonk Thank you but that doesnt change shit right now when I am unenlightened. Can you address my fears? @Aakash I pursue enlightenment because it believe it will solve all my problems, believe it is the most meaningful/valuable thing to do in life and bleieve it will bring nirvana/bliss Will I even care about happiness/bliss, feeling happy/joy when I am enlightened?

I feel afraid that when I become enlightened (either I die trying or die trying) I will lose the will to live, not want to do anything, lose the motivation to go to school. Drop out of school/college and work at McDonald's or just go sit and die somewhere and or ruin my life. I feel afraid that I won't have the motivation to complete a degree or go to work when I become enlightened. I am creating the limiting belief that I must become financially independent first before the work. Also on a side note, is effort effortless once you are enlightened? Like running is effortless? Academic work is effortless? A job work is effortless? Also when someone becomes enlightened what motivates them to become awaken deeper if they are already in pure bliss?

@Alex bliss but don`t drink it will more likely make you an alcoholic than a playboy.

Sat-chit-ananda. Being-Consciousness-Bliss. The Self. I’ve realized that at least one aspect of Enlightenment requires the Self-realization of the pre-birth (pre-life) existence of which we are all One. When your third eye opens, you see the Self in all of its glory. It truly is remarkable to know Yourself as the Divine Nature. It is the Light.

Been doing Kriya for like ~5-6 months and If I'm being honest, I haven't experienced anything out of ordinary yet. I read so much awesome things about it here (e.g. bliss states for after like 2 weeks) so I naively execpted that something similar would happen to me as well. Don't get me wrong, I didn't get into yoga just for that reason. Also, I'm well aware that people who practise Kriya should not compare their progres but sometimes it's hard to resist the temptation. So, word of advice: Start practising it, give it 100% but don't expect anything. Results will come. (That's what I remind me of when I start to get frustrated with my practise)

@rnd at first bliss then terror. Later peace then suffering. Repeat a number of times. Dying,resisting, dying... resisting And then the great death?

Yet Leo and you are wishing and working to make this unimportant game better. Why is that so? Because deep inside you know i t's not just a game and that it's important. You really think we are in infinite bliss for eternity? Then why try to make this world a better place? I assume you believe you were united with the formless before your birth. WHy don't you have any memories of it? Why believe something you don't have direct experience? That's what christians and muslims do. Be careful.

If God is all-powerful and everything is created to maximize love and goodness, then every creature should be experiencing infinite bliss for eternity.

Can rent a cabin somewhere private. Of course the goal is to not alarm someone in the vicinity if you do end up yelling or screaming during your trip. Worst thing would be to come back from absolute bliss and be surrounded by a bunch of freaking out humans. If a cabin for a few days is not possible, maybe try hiking miles somewhere where you know it's far from any humans. Make it a 3 day camping trip. Being so remote, you can relax, be one with nature. With no worries of someone responding to any potential screaming, you can fully let yourself go, which is crucial to a breakthrough.

@Leo Gura Is there not a way to chase bliss while also completely accepting nonblissful states? Oh wait is that enlightement

I've gone about 5 days without fapping. Though I did look at some porn so that I could transmute the sexual energy up higher into my heart. I always ask myself when I think about it now "Do I really want to do this?" "Do I really want to sacrifice my connection to the Infinite for a moment of pleasure?" I am getting like 4/10 bliss from just Kundalini awakening, so I have no need to fap. I'm trying to use Tantra to move the sexual energies up from my sexual chakra into my heart and crown. The stream of bliss is much better in its full state than a simple pulsing orgasm that is short-lived.

Much of my work in releasing blockages is physically painful. Though I do love bliss, I don't actually sit in it all the time as I may have come across. But yeah, I have done the work so that the bliss will increase. When bliss goes down it doesn't bother me though. Bliss has gotten today like 6-7/10 in strength. It is touching on ineffable, but not there yet. Thank you, Leo. I highly value your input. What you said about escaping the present moment resonated strongly with me. Also about surrender. It's not just about trying to release. It's about surrender.

Reiki made me sensitive to energy, so I could feel it. I can direct energy to flow in whichever way, and I feel it flow. Though when a friend attuned me to a different modality than Reiki, it awakened my Kundalini and brought bliss. I never really had bliss with Reiki itself. Though it was relaxing. There is one other modality called Quantum Touch that made my hands and arms feel like an electric live wire. Very powerful. They say this method can shift bones fluidly.

Observe yourself chasing positive states and notice how this subtle duality and attachment creates suffering. Expecting constant bliss precludes true peacefulness since when your bliss dips you start to complain, "Where did my bliss go? How can I get it back?" Which is the very root of unhappiness: trying to escape the present moment. It's okay to chase bliss. Just observe this dynamic closely so that you become more and more aware that it cannot ultimately work. Through lots of observation of this clinging you will slowly aikido your clinging into surrender.

About five years ago, I felt such bliss in my heart that I cried. It was 10/10. I felt unworthy. I was just sitting on the couch and it hit me all of a sudden without trying to. But I instinctively closed it down because I couldn't handle it. As such, it still has not come back in that intensity since. I have had 3/10 or maybe 4/10 bliss in my heart more recently after awakening my Kundalini. About 2 years ago, I felt an expansive 10/10 bliss in my crown chakra. I was like "OMG, this is amazing." It happened when I was in love with someone that I never met because they don't really exist here. But that soon overwhelmed me and I shut it out instinctively too. When I shut out this bliss because I'm scared of getting lost in it, it never really comes back at the same level. What can I do so that I don't shut it out and tighten down on it? I want it to be expansive, and I want to feel worthy. I am feeling 4/10 bliss at times with my Kundalini awakening. I am not forcing it. I've heard that we shouldn't chase bliss. But it's a phase I think I need to get through. Yes, once you mature you stop seeking bliss directly. But it gives me something to motivate me.

I had at least 2 experiences which I may call mystical. One is on 5meo. Firstly, I became a dot and went into a different dimension. Few thoughts arised: I am loosing my life, I became crazy. Then BAM! Complete peace, bliss, Love. I am Cosmic Love or unconditional Love, I am everything, for eternity and then my ego returned to the body. Another was on lsd. I became conscious that I am here the only One. I called my friend and I knew that he is me and it's me talking to me. And that my kid is me, my mother is me. I CAN'T talk to anyone, there is no point to talk to anyone since everyone is me. It was so scary that I started to talk to myself that I want to forget this experience. I don't want to know the Truth. And after some time I returned to normal. With this sad thing that I am alone was a nice thing - freedom. Freedom to do what you want. Nobody is stopping you since there is only You.

@Alex bliss you are being at the effect of things not at a cause of things...