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@onacloudynight Maybe you can find someone who has fully awakened their kundalini to guide you. Did you experience a painful/burning sensation in your spine? Not the normal kind of pain but something different?

About a month ago i was with a friend out in the wild who through some intense conversations she started to become awakened? in front of my eyes, this was blowing my mind what is happening? She started to notice how beautiful everything was and how she never saw it like this before, that everything created and resistance of all creation was all because of her own structured belief systems and that all suffering was created by self, that she was special just like everyone else and there was no 1 else here but i, but we are simply one and it went on and on for a while which gave me a profound feeling of freedom or relief because i had waited for this day for a very long time as my best friend i always hoped she could experience what i did and we could vibe once again though as it went on, i was.. you could say in a state of shock for the next few hours while she was dancing around in the woods, spinning, smiling, talking and hugging trees, it was magical to see, there's so much more but i need to cut it short because what happened at the peak of this "Awakening" shall we call it? is that she started to hear some telepathic messages that were mostly for me although they couldn't connect with me so she was used as a channel. It was fascinating because everything she said was on point and knew things i haven't told her before about myself. They were saying most of the time i express myself through their signals and when i speak i usually speak from a higher source when i am in harmony of course but i cannot hear them myself. She was saying they kept telling her that something is causing the blockage, a possible guilt or self-forgiveness? I can't really think of anything, i know i have made mistakes and forgive myself for my blindness and am completely accepting of my past and actions, i can't seem to figure out what it is that is stopping me from connecting. If anyone has any experience or can help me feel free to share your thoughts or send me a pm. They also said i am very close to where i was before (guessing my more enlightened state after my first Awakening? and i truly feel i am much closer than i was. I feel more balanced and in harmony again these days, I remember i was in that enlightened state for a few months before it started to fade and eventually lost myself in the progress of helping others and trying to find a balance between those who i cared about and eventually got too carried away. She also kept getting the message Arcturian and Lemurian, collective consciousness and something about Indigo and twin flames. There was also a strange unworldly, positive energy she was expressing almost that just didn't feel everyday human, it was too pure and authentic as if she had just taken the purest MDMA on the planet lol.. I mean i don't remember my profound moments like that too well but i do remember they were magical although this just felt divine even through me...Maybe because it was just more recent and i was there to witness it, who knows. I've been thinking about it quite often because i was hit with extreme deja vu when it was happening, like it happened before or maybe it was just from that DMT trip again when i saw everything coming back to me... hahah Of course i was told to meditate. Lately, two specific things have been popping up in my field, 5-meo and meditation. Maybe they are signals or messages? I also am aware that these could just be signals from our higher consciousness/higher mind. (if you will) and not necessarily any entities or ET's. Goodnight

And one thing I noticed that really gave me a lot of confidence in the process of some sort of 2012/'5d ascencion' stuff is that I see how truth is contagious. Awakened people create more awakened people, positivity/truth reflects back negativity really strongly, which forces all of us to deal with themselves. That's why they nailed Jesus to the cross, darkness cannot handle light. But now there is the second coming of the Christ consciousness.

It was late 2014 that my first awakening happened. I was in a low state of consciousness and was awakened by a Hindu priest who showed me the light in the darkness. I was 20 at the time and only had a high school education as I spent my early teens playing games and smoking cannabis. With no vision I had fell into depression for years. After the awakening I started working; warehouse, small businesses, large plcs but now being 23 almost 24 I am at the stage with deeper insights learned through varies perspectives of the holistic modelling and rapidly changing planet. Trying to keep up without a formal education seems daunting at least, but I have a strong vision and ability to learn that keeps me intrinsically motivated. Should I allocate a few months of deep work and gain deep domain expertise in a subject that interests me such as business and marketing, specifically (social Media marketing) which I know will be an emerging factor in the few years and decades or keep going with the flow as I've been reading a lot of self help books and implementing these in my practices. I don't know where computer science can take me and I prefer to be flexible and self employed instead of being tied down to a career with someone else's vision, although I don't necessarily see that as always a downside, but I believe my learning is better accumulated from self education instead of a less opportunistic 9-5. My goals and aspirations are to start by improve upon my creative writing and public speaking abilities whilst publishing free e-books on my thought process towards breaking gaming/gambling addictions through spiritual practices and teachings, training intentionally not habitually. Together with these are to continue developing my business and marketing knowledge and constantly moving forward during changing times to develop/create successful business and also non-profit organisations in the future through creating a network of highly insightful people. I intend to do this in my work native country in India Gujarat and also here in the UK. Im incredibly flexible and have no attachments and am looking for some insight and advise for what my next steps should be although I ultimately know its down to me to take the action.

@eskwire This calling you speak of can easily be awakened as you progress. Your sole existence in this world at this time is a proof a desire for some sort of creative action. Be it family or business or book or a garden. Creativity is the most inherent human quality. There is a creative intent behind everyone's existence.

It did happen. Obviously there is no doubt about that. Tin foil hatters will come up with crazy things to satisfy their curiosity for unusual stuff. Whatever happened to all those families who lost their loved ones was beyond awful. Such horrible incidents are a reminder that the human race is in dire need of spiritual growth. A small bunch of spiritually awakened and wise people cannot change the world. We need to have more people incorporating spirituality in their lives.

I've re-read this over...have you been aware or awakened ? What you feel is real just or only being.

Because you are God/infinity/consciousness or whatever you want to call it which is essentially everything and nothing. There is no such thing except that so you can't transcend to become anything. All that is needed is the veil of illusion to disappear. Another way to put it is that you are like a cartoon or movie character that doesn't know he's in one and believes he is actually real. Once he awakens and sees that not only is he is part of a cartoon or film but his essential nature is the entirety of that film then he can truly enjoy life and not take it so seriously. #belikedeadpool (or maybe not since he might just be a comic book zen devil) P.s these are only concepts and pointers to the truth since it is beyond all experience and can't even be communicated well. Also these are insights I have had directly with enlightenment experiences although I do not claim to be living in this state all day everyday so i wouldnt consider myself fully awakened. I am on the path just like you are Hope this helps.

Sex is beautiful, sexuality is ugly, and the difference has to be understood. Sex is a natural phenomenon. Sexuality is unnatural, abnormal and pathological. When sex becomes cerebral, when sex enters in your head, it becomes sexuality. Now, the head is not the center for sex. It is getting into confusion, it is getting upside down, it is getting deranged. Sex is not the function of the head, but when sex enters in through the head it becomes sexuality. Then you think about sex, then you fantasize about sex. And the more you think, the more you fantasize about it, the more you will get into trouble because then nothing real will ever satisfy you because there is no limitation on fantasy, and reality is limited. That is the problem the West is facing – it has fantasized too much about sex. The West has become sexual through fantasy; the East has become sexual through repression. Both have become sexual and both have lost the natural capacities of enjoying sex. Both have become pathological through different routes. The West has become pathological by fantasizing sex as being the ultimate goal of life, and the East has become pathological by thinking that sex is the ultimate barrier between godliness and man. Sex is neither: neither is it the ultimate goal nor the ultimate barrier. Sex is a simple phenomenon as hunger or thirst; there is nothing more to it. Neither is it what the Eastern mind has been thinking about it. The Eastern mind is too afraid of sex. Out of fear, sex has moved into the head; through the door of fear it entered into the head. So the Eastern so-called saints are simply fantasizing about sex because they have repressed it. And that which you repress goes on coming up again and again. It cannot be destroyed; nothing can ever be destroyed by repression. Repression makes sex pathological sexuality. This is one extreme. The West has moved to another extreme. The other extreme is, fantasize about it. Sex is all, everything else is secondary, so have as much sex as you can. But you cannot have too much sex. There are limitations to the body, but you can fantasize as much as you want, there is no limitation to it. So pornography exists, blue films exist, girly magazines exist, and people are being fed on these illusory mirages. Then no woman, no real man will ever satisfy you. These are both pathological states. Sexuality is pathological; whether you come to it through greed or fear does not matter. The East has become ill through fear; the West has become ill through greed. Greed and fear are two aspects of the same coin. So on the surface it looks very different, that the East and the West are poles apart. They are not. Those who know, those who can see, can see that it is the same foolishness, the same stupidity. They have arrived to the same stupidity from different doors, that is true, but they have entered into the same place. And both have to be awakened, and both have to be made more enlightened about sex. Sex is Natural, Sexuality is NotThis is the first thing to be understood if you ever want any transformation of sex energy. The first thing is don’t deny it, don’t reject it, don’t repress it. Don’t be too greedy about it, don’t think that this is all – this is not. There is much more to life. And sex is beautiful. Still, there is much more to life, sex is only the foundation, it is not the whole temple. Repressed, it becomes sexuality. Fantasized, it becomes sexuality. One is an Eastern way of transforming sex into pathology, the other is a Western way. But nobody, either in the East or in the West, accepts that sex is a simple natural phenomenon. Neither the saints nor the sinners – nobody accepts sex to be a simple natural phenomenon. Both are obsessed with it, hence I say both are not different. Sex accepted, respected, lived, becomes love.

So i've already awakened.. i was doing yoga and i think the energy channel connecting from my spine to my head caused some damage to my body. This pain is unbearable.. it's been consuming me and i've basically been submissive to it for the last 4 days. I don't know exactly the reasoning for the pain occurring or how long it will take for it to go away.. but does anyone have any methods as to how to get rid of it? The experience went like this.. i was doing yoga and i was doing a position that did alot of stress to my back.. when this happened it triggered me and alot of energy rushed to my head to the point that i lost my memory momentarily.. when this happened i panicked.. but i was bread with this pain that was so painful that i had to submit to it.. i went to the doctor.. and all he prescribed me was advil.. now this pain isn't as much as it was the first day it occurred.. it's still fucking with me and its still pretty hard to bare.. please help me.

So i figured it out, I got sick with the flu and had a terrible headache that was more like a major schizophrenic period. I was being confused by Hindu belief systems that i had exposed myself to in the past from Gurus(which call themselves God kinda like Leo) and psychedelic drugs. I still believed i was God on a subconscious level and at times it would penetrate into my consciousness and screwing me over, i would become insane trying to harmonize the two, because this idea didn't match up with the reality that I'm not God. It's really messed me up and made it difficult for me to function properly. I also became more self absorbed. and many times I had awakened to this problem in me in the past. This is really something that I need to erase from my mind, Hinduism is a load of garbage. I've had amazing experiences on DMT and other drugs and there are times when you think you're God but its just a mental cycling illusion that creates the delusion that you are eternal. Something is seriously wrong with this cult. I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. V.S. Naipaul described India as a wounded civilization paralyzed by her religious beliefs.

Most of you probably heard about David Hawkings or even read his book, Power vs. Force, he's a MD PhD that has awakened somewhere mid life. Since he's coming from an academic background, he has a scientific interpretation to this experience and good explanations to consciousness and the process raising it.

12 Basic Qualities of an Enlightened Person by: Charles Francis Author of “Mindfulness Meditation Made Simple: Your Guide to Finding True Inner Peace” “If you think you are enlightened, go home for Thanksgiving.” — Ram Dass We sometimes say that some people are enlightened, but do we really know what that means? We might say that because they are kind, loving, and insightful. While these may indeed be qualities of an enlightened person, it’s hard to be sure unless we ourselves are enlightened. I’ve been on a spiritual path most of my life, and in my experience I’ve seen how people are transformed through spiritual practices. Here is a list of qualities that most of them attain. This is not a comprehensive list, but I think it contains some of their most prominent qualities. Keep in mind that there are varying degrees of enlightenment. That is, everyone is at a different point in his spiritual development, and some may be more enlightened than others. Also, these qualities can be possessed by both men and women. Enlightenment is not exclusive to either sex. 1. Happiness The enlightened person is happy and joyful. He has a cheerful disposition most of the time, and is willing to share that joy with others. He is always optimistic that all challenges have a resolution. Even though the resolution may not be the most desirable, he is confident that he is capable of being at peace with it. 2. Peaceful and Serene The enlightened person is peaceful and serene, because he is free of fear and other unwholesome emotions. He can see that the human condition reaches beyond this physical existence, so he no longer has a fear of the unknown. He is free of worry because he understands that freedom from suffering comes from within, and not from material possessions. 3. Loving, Kind, and Compassionate The enlightened person is loving, kind, and compassionate for two main reasons: 1) he genuinely cares about other people, regardless of whether they care about him, and 2) he knows that other people provide him with the spiritual nourishment he needs to continue growing. Therefore, he remains spiritually open to everyone. 4. Not Self-Centered The enlightened person is not self-centered, because he has lost the sense of a separate self. He can see the interconnected nature of our existence. To him, this is not just a concept, but a reality. He realizes that all physical manifestations (humans, animals, plants, etc.) depend on each other for their survival. 5. Emotionally Stable The enlightened person is emotionally stable because he no longer has an ego that needs validation for its existence. He is not hurt because there is no ego to hurt. He does not get angry because he is understanding and compassionate toward those who are not as far along the spiritual path. 6. Patient and Understanding The enlightened person is patient and understanding because he appreciates how our ignorance creates our own suffering. He understands the challenges of achieving enlightenment, so he doesn’t condemn people for their missteps. 7. Humble The enlightened person is humble. Since he knows his place in the universe, he doesn’t need validation from others. Therefore, he has nothing to prove to anyone, including himself. His humble nature allows him to be kind and gentle, and be open to everyone he encounters. 8. Insightful and Open-Minded The enlightened person is insightful and open-minded. He is able to see the world with great clarity, without attachment to preconceived ideas about people, places, and things. This enables him to observe the world without jumping to conclusions. Belief and intuition are replaced with clarity of vision and understanding. 9. Inner Strength The enlightened person has great inner strength. He has learned healthy ways of connecting with the sources of spiritual nourishment — through healthy interactions with people, and within. He no longer has a need for the power struggles that most of us engage in. 10. Leadership The enlightened person is a leader. Having awakened to the point of understanding the nature of suffering, he realizes his duty to help other people find freedom from suffering. He leads by example, rather than control. People follow him because of who he is and what he stands for. They want to be more like him. 11. Mindful of His Health The enlightened person is mindful of his health — physical, mental, and emotional. He knows that his mind, body, and spirit must be in harmony in order to maintain his spiritual condition. He has developed an understanding of physical and mental health, and doesn’t blindly depend on others for his health. He is mindful of the nutrients and substances he puts into his body. 12. Committed to His Spiritual Practice The enlightened person never forgets how he achieved enlightenment. He is also aware that it takes continuous effort to remain that way. It takes a great deal of spiritual nourishment to help others along their path, so he’s aware that he needs to replenish his spiritual strength on a daily basis. Otherwise, he’ll lose his effectiveness as a spiritual messenger. Overall, the enlightened person is mindful of himself, and the world around him. Furthermore, he is curious and willing to continue learning. He is aware that even though he can see with great clarity, developing an understanding of the true nature of our existence takes time to observe and investigate. This is not a comprehensive list of the qualities of an enlightened person. But I think these are the most prominent. My purpose for examining these qualities is to give us a compass to guide us in our spiritual journey — a vision of the path that lies ahead. From this list, it seems clear that enlightened people live rich and fulfilling lives. Those who achieve any measure of enlightenment do so through some form of daily meditation practice, a willingness to let go of old views, and a commitment to helping others find peace. It takes work and dedication, but it is well worth it. Best wishes on your spiritual journey!

@Marinus I 100 percent experience blue field etoptic phenomena every single day, exactly as it is described in that picture, and have so for four plus years. It was brought on by spiritual practices. You are fine You are not alone I treasure it, though I do not fully understand it. I believe it to be mystical in nature, due to how it was awakened, and the various mystical experiences I have had surrounding it.

I think an actualized political outlook will be when all human race is awakened and no politics will be needed.

The mind can have the tendency to jugde. A thought will arise in awareness for example, "That guy is a bum!" "Thats a ugly lady" lol And so on. You have to give up judging! Because if you judge people you can't be free. Judging is something the mind is taught to do. Its not really you. This whole thing is magic! Do you not agree? This whole thing we call life. Don't judge life, don't judge yourself. Be free. Live in the moment! Fall in love with it. It is your devine will. To love eachother, to be vulnerable with each other & not always compare and compete with one another. I accept you as you are whether your the most egocentric person going or the most awakened being. We are all this magic. Regardless. Love now! Not the word or idea of now but look in front of you. That!

@WaveInTheOcean Your posts are extended, I am going to order them. I see a clear misunderstanding coming up, regarding how I view things according to how you view things. I will demonstrate why it is not the case that I am discrediting a scientist. But only pure upon the explanations that further have nothing to do with Einstein, but rather with the bunch of people that use such explanations to wrap it with other explanations and then state that it is therefor true, because there was but one right explanation, which I say, is not a case of science, but a case of ignorance. So what I am going to try to explain here, is how a scientist isn't always free from ignorance. And that therefor the explanation of Einstein are valid, in opposition of the misuse of people that state its the only explanation etc (which has nothing to do with his explanation, but rather their ignorance misusing a theory). While I would bet that if Einstein would continue his work, he would have gone further with more explanations, regarding the subject even so he might discovered that there are other explanations. But the same could be said about Tesla, that reviewed gravity totally differently. But got suppressed. And this is where I came in, with what is a case of science, and what is a case of ignorance, and what is the parasite for humans? I stated the ball earth. Why? Not because it is or is not a ball, but the extent people belief it to be true without further questioning. Therefor its the greatest hoax, not rather its the actual shape as in physical sense, but the shape within their minds, that is the parasite of falsely belief it must be true without self exploration of any kind. Which gave no room for further questioning due to that the earth must be a ball, all places are discovered, give up the search, don't further question rather it is not a ball either, because you are called a fool. This is the parasite that is the idea that demobilizes their curiosity to a great extent. That has nothing to do with its actual shape (therefor this discussion ball vs flat, to question), where if I would state: Its therefor flat, and belief all the concepts concerning the flat earth, this is the same parasite still, but I did not yet put it in my work here extensively enough, but I should clearly do that, I see that. But I am going to clarify this in my book as well, presenting this topic more extensively due to the questions it arises also from you, and thank you for your contribution for that, its dear to me. So what do I see as a hoax (examples of various parasites): The only explanation is given by Einstein, and its the only explanation, therefor the only valid one (we are no longer in need of any other explanation). I say, this is not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. (has nothing to do with the theory, but their false belief it explains it all). There is but only one explanation given by Einstein, and its the only explanation, therefor all those other explanations concerned in accordance with this explanation and theories, are therefor right. All the others are not right. I say, this is not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. Movies, mass media, everyone is propagating that which has been found, which shapes worldview and explains how everything came to be. I say, this has nothing to do with science, its not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. Yes these theories are not complete, they need extension, we just mention this in our magazines that we belief it to be so... I say this has nothing to do with science, its a case of ignorance. And here my worldview comes in (describing wholesome from unwholesome, which demonstrates their ignorance, that they don't know science at all, that some scientists are in accordance with this knowledge, and others are not, discerning an ignorant from a not ignorant scientist based on the same law they think they understood, but demonstrates that some did not understand it at all, while some scientists did understand this perfectly well.), this is the field of which I call the pure sciences, the science of the nature of mind, Dharma. All those other fields of sciences, may be compared with a great discussion among people using the rules of logic for their discussions. All might be educated and extended in discussion formats considering sophism etc. But it doesn't end the discussion. The discussion has nothing further to do with science, its not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. That which end the discussion has nothing to do with their demonstration of intellect regarding the subject due to higher intellect or better skills to prove anything. That which ends the discussion is wisdom, a birds view from top down where non can escape the pure law of action leading to its according result and the law of temporary, which they use in their own fields as professionals, but failed to use upon themselves. (And this waveoftheocean, is how I review science, the depth, the sublimity of the pure law. Its used in professional fields, but science is so subtle that it can also be as the pure sciences, which I referred to as the science of the nature of mind, Dharma. I might can call them: Dharmalogists, in the field of Dharmalogy). < Of course there is a fat red line under these 2 words, as it never heard of these therms. This is the field I operate in. I kick out their wrong view of personhood. Which makes such a discussion utterly nonsense if its continued for the sake of personhood sustaining. This is a binding force. And this is the mark of the comments that I make on this form. It binds. The biologist might tell that the behavior of his neighbor can't be explained, that crazy behavior, this crazy man, not in all of the world of biology can this be explained. But a good friend that happened to be educated in another field will state: It can be perfectly explained, let me explain... (He happened to be a psychiatrist.) I hope you can now see, that the field I work in, is the pure science. The science of the nature of mind. Which with its explanations, discerns wholesome from not wholesome, and clothed with arguments, it binds, and kicks out the misunderstanding of personhood. Well, you have never asked directly: Aware, would you be so kind to review based on your understanding, rather the distinction between scientists and scientists. Which scientists are ignorant and which not? Which theories are wholesome, and which theories are not wholesome. But I am going to assume that this is the real question. To shed some light on this, so we don't have to misunderstand each other. You came up with an X and Y, which is a good one to refer too. I referred this to multi and sequential. But here the case is, of those sequantials, that work with the material form of science, (seen everything as science, the pure law), that there are grades into it. And we didn't really discuss that yet, you are so quick with your questioning, and I am typing my book as fast as I can, and really am eager to get deeper on that one article about the Awarenesses. Well lets say here is X multi streamed... And Y, is sequential streamed. Then this is how I review it: There are different levels of understanding when it comes to the streams of X. And there are no different levels concerning Y like seen with X. Which means they are the full Awareness in one body, no other streams (either finally ripe for path X or not, is level determination). Except for the Awareness that is spread over as a mass, which does differ compared to to their other companion. X path, does not end as Y path. But the Y path ends as X path streamed Awareness in the end. So its not like yin and yang. With Opposite awareness, its not like yin and yang. They are opposite because of their practices but not in being in "service" of Essence, because both are experiencing a valid game letting Essence experience itself. One is still in the power game play, and the other is in liberation game. This means, that this can be compared with intensity level of understanding the law of temporary and law of action >result in relationship with themselves and the world. Which better can be compared with sunlight, and moonlight. They differ in intensity. Although not separated. Still the same Essence. One of both uses the law to determine their material existence consciously, and unconsciously using this law for liberation... The other one uses this same law to determine the subtle and consciously using this same law for liberation, due to that one is awakening to the fact that both inside and outside is empty in nature. However, yin and yang, is based on the game settings of it all. Its polarity. A sequential is preferring one over the other still. Although seeming to be balanced within their perspective, which becomes harder to see as they are ready to skip to the X path. It gets confusing, when you see a mid-level multi stream, and a sequential that is ready to go to the other path. Here dynamics come into play. That the sequential is better in the way of service in his experience game, than the mid-level stream is in his game of experience. Here confusion starts when personhood is still part of their daily lives in both cases. So where does it go wrong? Its not going wrong with Einstein. It goes wrong with the misuse of his explanations. I never heard Einstein say: Use my theory, and its the only theory and possible explanation, debunk all others as false, and never seek another explanation for the same phenomena. So its due to its nature of explaining the physical world, that isn't really physical that makes it an aggregate in comparison with mind that then isn't physical. Its this polarity that is confusing, and demonstrating its sequentialism. So, from someone who practices at a high level of multi stream, Einstein is not the enemy. One only must put on some glasses with a filter that corrects the one explaining his theories in relationship with anything else. Which means that such theories are aggregates. That if one is educated in Dharma, can quickly translate it to no personhood, and the law of action > result. However someone not educated in Dharma, will fall into the trap of nihilism or eternalism. (which has nothing to do with the theory itself, but their own ignorance again thinking such a theory will explain it all for them, and since many are taught this on schools also for the multies, they should refrain from society in order to let go of their imprints). Which is not what Einstein was trying to explain of course. However, bundling his theories to explain other theories, debunking yet others because they can't be right, while simultaneously egoistically thinking one understood his laws perfectly fine, is something I do not buy into (which is not what Einstein was explaining at all). Its the explanations for a phenomenon, where there is but one explanation that must rule in a particular field, missing its aim that its the law of action >result is the real law, yes I call this misleading, has nothing to do with science, its not even a case of science, its a case of ignorance. So for sequentials, this is perfect (thinking they ARE the physical at some point... But for someone on the path to liberation, its dangerous if one has not yet been taught Dharma, so it can be translated properly. Its like going to another country without the body being adapted to the conditions of their dangers. And this is the case with our education system, that really promotes the masses of sequential over that of a multi streamed. (which makes the game not easy, and leads as a result to a more intense experience then the sequential game structures, which again perfectly is explained by action leading to its according results). Therefor I stated: Leave the masses, you can't understand it from their perspective if you are on the path of liberation. Which you can't get off when you are in it, attained the vision of it. Here therefor wholesome and not wholesome can be discerned based on that. However I look one time at such a video, translate it and understand it properly and accordingly. So, I say: Einstein was a sequential, not based on the fact that therefor his theories must be wrong, no, because its his practice of science that demonstrates it being an aggregate, the material sciences. Polarity: Dark. So, I say: Tesla was a sequential, not based on the fact that therefor his theories must be wrong, no, because its his practice of science that demonstrates it being an aggregate, the material sciences. Polarity: Light. I say that both are still subject to action>result, and when they go for X path, surely they face their own Y path theories of previous to let go off when they too will need to refrain from their own sequential views of back then, and this is how I determined how X is higher in its intensity then Y, and that Y ends in X path and not the other way around based on the same law of action > result. Some game knowledge: The game here, has also its preference, which is dark. Maybe in another cycle, this game will be light orientated, a Tesla's theories would then be promoted, and Einstein's theories demoted. However this is off topic. For a multi streamed, one must therefor, refrain from the deep imprints of the material sequential way of service of Essence so to speak. Its in that case not multi against sequential, its the multi against multi. Because one must make ones own mind straight. But can't when he does not refrain from its aggregates. Personhood must get to an end, so the multi streamed can realize its true nature to over come oneself, where the battle between oneself and oneself can come to its end by cessation due to tiredness. So does this mean that a sequential is helpless? No not at all! Although they will be kicked on the path when a multi streamed is a final or close to it (is then the full sequential as well, but the difference is the pervasiveness of all ones experiences that came to full radiance), and will let the whole cycle of sequential Y, by leap of faith transfer to path X in direct experience. Which is a great and rare time within the game when this happens. Jesus, Buddha, Krishna and other masters are full final multi streamed masters. When a sequential would listen to me, (this happened already a few times), and I share the Dharma, it happened as well that they took the leap of faith, and their body of knowledge so to speak drops off and see themselves in me, and me within them, and the vision of Dharma is awakened in them. However this is small compared to the extent Jesus or a Buddha worked on this when it comes to amount. I would like to press on the fact, that a transfer of sequential to multi streamed, is more natural then the healing of a mind of a multi streamed that has imprints of a sequential due to ones own ignorance. I repeat: Due to ones own ignorance. There is no one to blame, one should simply refrain from his deluded activities in relationship with other experiences. Are there signs when a sequential is going to transfer? Absolutely! If they demonstrate within their science they are literally consciously transferring a truth they have studied in religion, and then studied in material sense and create a theory, then this is a clear sign, that one is transferring. A clear example is Einsteins statement that all is energy. Are therefor all scientists sequentials? Better to state that there is but Essence that is the real sequential, the rest is scientist either on the path of liberation, or on the path of materialism. Now this is all out of the way. That scientists are not free from ignorance because of science, due to their attachments that determine that, not their education level, let me explain how this looks like through my eyes. I am first going to pick out a theory to debunk. Which is the evolution theory. Dumb excuses about "Well its not complete yet" That is just a rooky assumption to justify we can share it anyway, indoctrinate and shape the mind anyway. Which has nothing to do with science or their method. But is a case of ignorance. In such cases better to let them think rather then to swallow such things: What can we know? How do I live a moral life? So, let me share my review on that theory that I state as unwholesome, not because it is itself unwholesome, by proven by the law of action > result that it can't be, and therefor must be unwholesome. No theory is wrong in itself, its proven to be wrong because its not in accordance as a result. Evolution theory cannot be, and never will be a science fact. Because its not in accordance. And to keep this fairly simple: Adaptation doesn't prove evolution theory. Adaptation is one with the law of action>result. And shall show exactly by adaptation evolution cannot be. Evolution cannot be because Awareness, Essence is its governor. For those not believers in god, are tempted to therefor take Evolution theory to be valid. While to make this fairly simple: Adaptation is valid, and therefor evolution theory is not wholesome. Because simple life forms don't become all of the sudden out of nothing, just by accident, just spontaneously, just by chance more complex. Due to that Awareness is its governor, adaptation is. Due to chance, adaptation is not. Adaptation is. Therefor chance is not. (chance is not in play because all things are empty, phenomena arose therefor according to their circumstances and cease according to their nature, stating chance is the governor, is a result of ones previous thinking, a case of ignorance, a great lack of knowledge, not in the material sciences, but in the science of the nature of mind, Dharma). Evolution theory mixes therefor Adaptation which is another word for the law of action leading to its according results, with the idea of life forms getting more complex over time, proven by adaptation that supports it. (which is sophism of the purest kind, one has nothing to do with the other, yet the adaptation fact can explain that this is coming from an ignorant mind, and is not in need of more education considering science taught on schools, but is in need of education in Dharma, the science of the nature of mind). And must therefor be a hoax when it is imprinted and widely spread and mixed with well verified scientific ideas. Mingling credibility with non-credibility later stating that science has nothing to do with religious believes, is exactly after such mingling demonstrating as a result of not a lack of education in material sciences, but demonstrating being situated either in passions or ignorance, and should therefor become educated in the science of the nature of mind, Dharma. Now, all theories in line with Adaptation + accident, chance, out of nothing or spontaneously without cause... Can be debunked the same way. Because out of nothing, ya shall never create something. And therefor life forms don't become more complex over time due to chance as its governor. (of course one can state, this is how they work, then I state, because they are undereducated in dharma, which is what I have been sharing here, how to get rid of, which they do not promote). Now, how do I see evolution theory when I filter out the mistake... As I just stated... However, when filtering out the more complex, but replacing it with adjusting, fine tuning with what already is, becoming more flexible due to losing, the cessation of information by refraining... And reviewing not chance as its governor, but awareness, whereby the law of action and result is as the stream ends, the left over streams gets updated, due to Awareness was before the physical garments of any kind, and in viewing this so, one gets to see a perfect law of action leading to its according result, and reviews all that has to do with Darwins work as a marvel that demonstrates what we mean by adaptation, and what we mean by what if we speak about attachment. The sexual drive etc... And how this plays out on the grand screen of life, that we call reality. So was Darwin on a debunking campaign? He was and wasn't, due to his loss in life that he could not bear, this resulted in such a campaign, which led to great discoveries that side ways was from previous actions such as his curiosity and open-mindedness, however he could not escape the result of his not accepting his losses in life to be mingled with his work in the end by the same laws adaptation he was referring too. If he however would read my book that is considering his work, he would be fascinated and see his own work becoming perfect. Sublime and in full accordance with everything that is. Now that is clear what I mean by hoax, how I filter by their same laws the flaws, which can only be done properly from education of Dharma, I hope that it is also clear, that Dharma is not separated from science, but is pure science. My education is not mainstream, but is by refraining from imprints, and studying the nature of mind. Which makes science far more subtle and elegant many fail to recognize in this world, where which many think science is limited in many ways to material science. Which of course has nothing to do with science, but with their either own passion or ignorance. As a result I can have an overview over all other fields of science. So, its not horizontal, that I am on the other end, its vertical, and then the other is on the other end, and not on top, but below the top by far. Scientists in the material sciences, are attached, just like many readers here. Although having an academic study, this is no free ticket from ignorance or passions for that matter. The readers who suggest after saying: Gravity is a hoax: Oh, Aware is against science... Misses ones aim. Stating: Aware is against Einstein's theory, he is against gravity therefor against Einsteins work about gravity. Again one misses ones aim. A hoax is now explained by me, in a way that it doesn't matter rather one was right about an observation or not, its the imprint its whole wrong effort of imprinting that makes something a hoax due to an attack on someones curiosity, ones wonder of everything that is, that can only be supported, even promoted and stimulated by asking the right questions. Teachings that promote the refraining from such imprints to overcome them, which will always lead to wonder, and wonder, always leads to freedom, and freedom is understanding and understanding is one with direct knowledge. As a final word: Such hoaxes have nothing to do with the very subjects and scientific discoveries that are undertaken, but rather demonstrates by the same laws used in their methods of proving, to be a case of ignorance. A wild attack on ones curiosity and wonder about everything that is. Which I demotivate by the following question that should be widely discussed among schools, to promote their thinking instead of their ramming and bombarding, ridiculing, and skillful ways of indoctrinating young minds like some wild band of baffling under- Dharma-educated baboons: What can we know?

He is awakened to the vision of Dharma, that is pure, and pervasive. This achievement can't be undone by any other living being. One day, many will benefit from him.

@Wormon Blatburm Check the video that Rali has uploaded. He talks with a guy from India (I think) and he talks about that. They say that there's a range of awakened people, some want seclusion from the world, others want to get involved in the world and share their knowledge. There's a great range of enlightened people, with different approach to enlightenment, maybe their message is directed to some kind of people that can resonate with it. Who knows? This is the video

@Aware Wow. The spiritual ego is big on this one. I mean you're obviously lost, Aware. I know I mostly like can't help you, as this spiritual ego of yours has probably developed so big that you can't take it emotionally if you let it burst now. So you won't let it go. I understand. Just remember that as long as you won't let it go, you will be forever stuck on the path towards actual self-realization, actual liberation. It's sad, because you've come a long way, and I have gained some valuable insight from reading your posts here. But you've fallen into a trap now .. the trap of the spiritual ego (I'll discuss it further down below). I mean, I'm lost too. But I acknowledge that I'm lost. The acknowledgment of the fact that I'm lost ( have no clue of why I'm here, what my agenda is, who I am etc) sort of makes me not lost, because you're obviously 1000 times more lost... Because if you are really lost, but believe you're not (i.e. making wrong assumptions of reality, that you hold as ultimately true) then you're obv even more lost by infinity amounts. For the lulz I will make a last post in trying to destroy the bubble of your spiritual ego anyway. I know it most likely won't matter, but at least my post will _hopefully_ help some people not falling into your bullshit. And it is easy to fall into your bullshit -- I'll give you this one -- because you actually write a lot of cool, insightful, relatively true things that are very useful, for example just to mention some things you've discussed, which I like: About law of action leading to according results. About the law of Impermanence. That we are not our bodies. That awareness of pure reality can be slowly attained by stopping attachment to desires (but here you miss something... you also have to stop to cling to ideas like you obv do). That a person who rapes a monk himself is the victim and not the monk ( I liked that ! It's arguably very true!). That the raper does it because of ignorance. Yep. And: "Therefore I stated that the right view is: This situation is a result of previous situations, and this situation will lead to the next. We are the result of our thinking, heirs of our thinking, the accumulation of our thinking."" -- I like this very much, it's very accurate. Also all your talk about Power games and so on.. it's actually a cool, accurate discription. Your analogy of how trees are govnered by sunrays etc.. It's a nice way to look at things.. And yes in a way we are also governed by other things that are not part of what we normally would call ourselves. But you also come out with a lot of bullshit. Let me clearify: What you have sort of done, is that you have seen all the wrong assumptions that society has shoved into their people. You have seen that they are wrong... Just for example that we are a body (but also religion, power, money , conformity etc, all things you discuss nicely). So obviously we are not a body, I see that too. But your grand mistake is that you have started assuming that you're/we're something else then, AND that you've now created such a new assumption (all your talk about stream of Awareness etc) that you now cling to as the Truth.. And you cling to that like a child. So in a sense you're not much different than most. Sorry to burst your bubble ( I know I probably didn't, because you're currently blind (to your own spiritual ego), but I pray that you will in the future see more clearly). In a sense, to use an analogy from Zen Buddhism.., you're currently stuck in the Devil's Cage.. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makyo You say that "- I am not an idea of me." ... That's right. But your last post very obviously doesn't reflect that statement at all...You obviously have very well-thought ideas about who you are... all this stuff about Awareness, One Essence, Two opposite awarenesses, one awareness governing many streams... You even go as far as creating a sort of "us vs them"-reality. That we on this forum are part of one type of Awareness going for the self-realization game and that most other people are part of another type of awareness going for the Power Games of society. That's super fucking dangerous to do. And it's a big, fat trap you've fallen right into. So let's just for the fun of it talk a bit about your ego-created perception of reality: We have the "sequential"-dudes and we have the "multi"-dudes. You and I, we are part of the multi club. We are the wise ones. Seeking self-realization. Then we have the sequential-dudes who go for conformity etc.. May I ask, did "God"/Mother of Essence reveal this to you through an epiphany? Or did it ever struck you that your ego created this image of the world because this image fits very, very nicely with how you percieve the world? I bet my money on the latter, mate. I can see why your ego created this image... because it IS pretty accurate.. and I also sort of like it as a model to describe the world we live in.. But to hold as the Truth and start seeing it as "us" vs "them"... I mean, fucking stop it, if you go down that road, you are exactly just like the sequential dudes you just described. ". I am well awakened " Obv you're not, mate. "You are a stream of Awareness" vs ""- I am not an idea of me." " I hope everyone can see how this dude constantly contradicts himself . Anyway, the most hilarious part of your last post was your talk about how the Earth is not a ball, and that this is a grand illusory designed to block us, the multi-ones, from seeking the truth. I don't even know where to start here to be honest, because my own ego can't help see the retardness of it all. There are so many ways to destroy the whole "Earth is flat"-society, but in many ways it's pointless because they won't listen to pure common sense. Now the funny part is that they use the same argument of "common sense"... That because we percieve the Earth as flat in our everyday reality then common sense should tell us that the Earth is ultimately also flat... Hehe, it sure ain't easy... But for me, common sense tells me that the world for the most part is NOT as it looks like at first glance... For example: The world I grew up in wanted to tell me that career, familiy and money were important,, so following that kind of "common-sense"-logic, that would be the Truth... but obv it isn't... So for me common sense tells me; if the Earth seems to flat in everyday life, then most likely it fucking isnt... .. Just as if the most easy thing is to believe that I am body ,, then precisely because it's the most easy thing to believe, then that should tell me that I am probably not a body.. hehe. Anyway. First of all, your arguments for why the sequential ones would like to create such a hoax are extremely thin. I won't even bother arguing why to be honest. Secondly, do you realize that the science that allows you to sit and preach your crap over the internet here is EXACTLY the same kind of science that tells us that the Earth is round? Can your ego grasp that? Probably not. The science that gave us internet, computers, cell phones, and lots of other stuff is EXACTLY the same science that came up with the -Earth is a sphere-model. So if you think the "Ball Earth" is one big hoax, and continue to use techonlogy like this forum, then you are a fucking hypocrite (in a way) The guys who believe the Earth is not a sphere must then also believe that all the 1000s of people who are working with sending sattelites out in space to discover the rest of the solar system, the people who have been space etc (and people who have worked on getting them to space), that all these people KNOW that the Earth is not a sphere, but they then get paid many dollars to tell the public that it is. It just sounds fucking retarded. Obv if this were the case, SOMEONE or SOMEBODY would have revealed the hoax by now. Anyway. I'm a VERY open-minded person, so I have been open to the question if I was wrong and if the Earth is maybe not round. So I have done some research and actually tried to look at the arguments that the flat-Earth people postulate... and 90% of the arguments are fucking retarded. Let's have a look at this moron who believes and argues that the Earth is a flat plane: In the start Dave says: "If a pilot is flying around the curve of the Earth he should be dipping the nose down ... *brain MELTDOWN, HMM every what?,, lets just say 5 for the lulz* every 5 minutes to stay around the curve" No he (the pilot) should not for christ sake. The centripetal force from the Earth (gravity) keeps the airplane always in it's curved bane around the earth. It's like there is an imaginary rope between the Earth and the plane. So what appears always to be always a straight line for the pilot / the airplane is on a larger scale always a curved path around the Earth. To escape the gravity of the Earth the plane would have to have to reach the escape velocity ( 25,020 mph ) .. If the plane had THAT speed or higher, then YES, then the pilot would have to keep dipping the nose to follow the curve of the Earth, but since it has a low speed it doesn't need to! "But HOW can gravity keep the airplane in a curved path when the plane is up in the air violating the pull from gravity towards earth??" .. Wrong question, wrong assumption. Even when the plane is high up in the air it is ALWAYS getting pulled towards the Earth. The reason it doesn't fall to the ground is only because of the presence of air/athmohpshere, where the airplane is designed to manipulate the air around the wings to give it lift above the air. The way the air moves around the wings gives the airplane lift from the ground. Satellites and space stations don't "dip" anything down either when they circulate around the Earth. They are actually falling freely towards the Earth, but because of their velocity (which isn't slowed down because there is no air friction that high up in space) they never hit the ground but instead keep their circular path around the Earth. But in fact they are always getting pulled directly towards the Earth itself (centripetal force/gravity)... which actually ican be seen as NOT a force, but is due to the way spacetime is curved around the Earth ( a massive object ) so basically the sattelites are just following a "straight line" according to the curvature of spacetime. This is how it looks from the ISS: But of course, this is all CGI, right? hehe. Also at around 5 minutes, Dave says that because the Earth is moving fast around the Sun (faster than it's own rotation), so we should see all kinds of movements of the stars around the pole star. Wrong wrong wrong. The stars are SO far away that these kind of movements the Earth and the Sun make in the space matters nothing to how we percieve the stars from the Earth. Not in the short term at least. Therefore it is only the Earths own rotation that influences how we see the stars on the short term. It's perfect logic. Think about it. If you are driving fast in a car on a road and look at things passing by you, for example a building close to the road... then that building is quickly passed and out of vision soon again because it's close to the road. But if there are a mountain long, long away from the road, then you can see the mountain for a long time, it doesn't move a lot in your vision field even if you are driving the car at high speeds. ... IN the same way because the stars are EXTREMELY far away the Earths movement around the Sun doesn't change how you see the stars at all (During a single night) ... It's only the Earths rotation that matters (for fucking obvious reasons). Anyway, my last post here

The Matrix Game of Self-Realization Readers! I am going to set in motion a vision that explains the whole bunch of earth experience in a nutshell! Be ready, I am going to speak! What is the game of self-realization, and how it came to be? Readers! Before you were experiencing the game on earth, you've had many other experiences. These experiences have only in common that you experience yourself. You can't die, and like to expand based on experiences. Readers! This means you cannot die! For you are not your body, not the idea of a body, nor do you have free will. These are results of your doings, your way of experiencing yourself as a TrueSelf. When your body dies, your identification with the body ceases to exist. Thats all. I will explain soon about your TrueSelf. The agreement. There is the agreement, that there is an opposite game, happening here on the same planet earth. Readers! This is so, that essence can experience itself through a massive diversity. Readers! Understand that this can be seen as the opposite Awareness. Meaning that essence became the governor of 2 opposite governors that are Awarenesses. One will govern the multi experience different planes. The other experiences sequential one body path. Both governed by essence. The to Awarenesses differ, and will explain its discern and how to recognize soon. One Awareness is experiencing Self-realization. The other is Experiencing the Power game. Understand, that the real essence of it all, can't self-realize without such a game. Understand that Essence, can't experience power over itself. Understand that this is why 2 Opposite awarenesses are experiencing their game on a single planet! So that both make sure in their own way that they do can have this play it otherwise cannot play. Both in essence, serve therefor still Essence. However for the sake of later explanation, I must discern the ocean from the rivers, and the rivers from the drops, and how this came to be. I will get in to this later. The law of the game. The law of action leading to its result. The law of action leading to its result, is the golden line where Awarenesses differ from one another within the game, and where each stream of a certain Awareness differ from one another, although governed by the same Awareness. The law of the game is that everything always remains unfolding within the game. Nothing holds, everything is a composite and will due to its arising and ceasing always point to the law of actions leading to its results. Readers! The law of action leading to its result is very deep, subtle, difficult to grasp, hard to work with. But the seat of spiritual mastery when understood. I will explain later, why so. Which Awareness governs me? Most on this forum are Awareness governed by the Awareness experiencing Self-realization, the Awareness that is governing many streams at the same time, letting each of its streams be updated and upgraded accordingly to the law based on many different realities at once. Few to non on this forum are Awareness governed by the Awareness experiencing The power Game. How are these Awarenesses different experiencing, how to make sense of that? The Awareness that is experiencing the power game, while the real essence is completely powerless over itself, because its all pervasive, is therefor not the same operating then the Awareness that is experiencing self-realization. How so? The Awareness that is experiencing the power game, is sequantionally operating. Its singular as one embodiment Awareness as its complete. They can remember their previous life with ease, by a simple pointing experience to get on with what they were left doing in their previous. I will explain this later, in how it expresses in the Earth Game experience. The Awareness that is experiencing the game of Self-realization, wile the real essence is completely self-realized, because its all pervasive, is therefor not the same operating then the Awareness that is experiencing the Power Game. How so? The Awareness that is experiencing the Self-realization game, is simultaneously operating in many different realities. It has therefor streams here on earth, and in heavens, in some cases hells. I will explain this later, in how it expresses in the Earth Game experience. So what am I? You are a stream of Awareness, or you are the embodiment of it. But I did not came across anyone on this forum that is the embodiment of it. How does this work? You are a stream of Awareness (shape of Awareness), that governs the game of self-realization, that is governed by Essence. The streams can be seen as different sun rays connecting to the same sun. It transforms many plants and trees and so on. The trees and plants grow and die, but in the meantime, due to that its governor remains, adaptation is also part in the game due to circumstances. Keep this last one in mind. The same can be said about TrueSelf, the Awareness as governor over the many streams. Bodies go, the streams are absorbed, and other bodies, get an update, similarly like with adaptation. And this is how Awareness, your trueSelf gains experiences. You are multi incarnated. This means that there are different you's, all connected to one Awareness. This means that there are streams in heaven, in some cases some streams in hell, but all are connected also with the stream you are as the one reading here. This means also, if you are reading this, that its highly greatly possible you are sitting reading the information from another stream, that is sharing that is connected to the Same Awareness. Understand that streams therefor have levels. There are mid-levels, very advanced levels, but there are also final streams walking here on this earth. The many streams get updates, through visions, dreams, during duty and spontaneous triggers on their path shared by another stream connected to the same Awareness. All operating from the law of actions leading to its according results. One reads something like this, it will let you think, and as a result you become more conscious. This leads always to becoming more tired about old things, you drop it by seclusion, become more balanced, become therefor more intelligent, you do better self reflection, become again more tired of other experience loops imprinted by society, you break them, you become more balanced, you become more intelligent... And so on... This is how TrueSelf operates through the laws of actions leading to its result. I will soon get into how this can have nasty experiences when coming in contact with Opposite Awareness experience and the laws of actions leading to result, which makes the game truly deep and fascinating somehow. How do both Awarenesses express within the game on earth? Although they must follow the same laws, actions leading to its according results... You as the multi streamed Awareness, are outnumbered... Why? Because there is one sub-awareness under the law of Opposite awareness, that has itself spread over many bodies. This makes them dumb, always following their either light or dark sided polar TrueSelves that are the sequential TrueSelves that are settled in power settlements such as: Governments, religion and educational systems, and more. This being outnumbered, is the way they operate, get laws through, and can suppress by conformity. Which goes against your Awareness as a multi, that is only supporting diversity. Most counts count. That is how they get laws and themselves as leaders through according to their Game Experience. I will explain later how these people always get after death back in a position that continuous their previous work. And how you can draw a clear line of sequentials and how to recognize them by their signs they leave. The multi incarnated streamed Awareness, can be easy spotted by the more adventurous, kind and more bold and always on the path of Self-Discovery in some way or another everything BUT in the game of power and conformity games at the hight as the sequantials. Intuitive and quickly adapting to new situations. You can spot them in simple jobs, and are able to be convinced over time. Among them, when they talk, and share, a sequential, would not be able to follow the conversation, because 2 streams of a multi incarnated share very easy among so much more then language. A sequential is differently operating. Where do both Awarenesses finally ultimately discern within the game? First get a better grasp of the law of actions leading to its according results. As you know now, by this law, you get more balanced, and get rid of the experience loops (I will get to that) that TrueSelf must break in order to attain self-realization. However the rule of everything unfolds always also is running in the game experience of Earth, the sequential can by being one TrueSelf as embodiment by this same law quickly go on with where this being left in his previous embodiment. Because there is not a multi stream, except for one that spread as a great mass to serve each others purposes, one is just choosing its birth, and follows school, and feels extremely attracted upon where one left previously. There is no other stream that prevents it. This is how everything within the power structures keeps dynamically going on with their agenda. Now, why we as a multi are not part of the club then? We can study also, right? Yes, but not up to that level. They are operating completely thinking in structured ways, while we just are not. We are having a multi experience, adventurous and not structured the same way, but absent from it. We get only more in self-doubt and self-denial if we go on taking their path. In their ranks, there are so many different rules, language barriers, laws, tricks to promote, and traditions held up, that cannot be possibly be working for a multi stream. This layer of rules, protocols, laws and tricks, cannot be pierced through by any of us, its not how we operate, its a thick jungle. This is where the line is. We aren't a party member, and never will. How the other Experiences the Game of power here on earth? Through every big corporation of power. May it be religion or Government. ITs always about conformity, that is how you can recognize the opposite Awareness experiencing its game, simultaneously holding the multi streamed back from Self-Realization. Their whole system operates upon thriving upon itself. Which means, it just thrives and moves on by living on their followers. They know they just continue in their next embodiment. They sacrifice themselves here and there, that is how they push forth building illusion of choice, and they move on by experiencing the game of power expressed through conformity. What is on the agenda? In one word: Powerlessness. Power game is just to experience that, power, and conformity is the expression. Laws telling what and what not to do, protocols, education systems, governments, a world religion and government is also a cool experience for them. They chase after physical immortality, cloning (because its awful again and again being born) and the build upon technology discoveries. They will ultimately realize that the ultimate power is powerlessness. Its a valid game experience where Essence gets to know its ultimate power. What is on our agenda? In one word: Graduation! Self-realization. Understand that sequential path, is a very slow smooth path. And we have the intense experience, but the fast paced path. The graduation is when the sequantials are played out due to the law of action leading to its according results in relationship with the fast paced many streamed Awareness. Which basically means, that they realize, they are in essence powerless, and we realize that we already were so long here as long as Essence is, thus always. What is the opposite Awareness biggest secret? Ball earth! Readers! This lie is the biggest secret. When it drops, they can't reincarnate any longer due to the law of action leading to its according results. Which will mean they can be here, and can't be here, because the rest doesn't support it no more. Why Ball earth? Because it supports their big gravity hoax explanations. (I don't state its not a phenomenon, I state its just not in need for such an explanation as they have given). It gets rid of the random big bang we all are an accident that supports evolution theory, which must of course support a non-Awareness being. A nothing, that governs everything. We all came from a bundle of nothing that exploded in a big bang, that is their story. That in the beginning, there was nothing. And then came gravity, out of the nothing. Readers! Understand that each life time when such a hoax came to be, can be absolutely recognized as a sequential TrueSelf. This means Pythagoras, Charles Darwin, Hitler, and many others, are sequential incarnations. Don't see them separated from each other. Its the same Opposite Awareness, going round and round here on earth. This dangerous idea of Ball Earth, is the biggest parasite for Multi incarnated experience Awareness. Because it leads to upside down thinking, to their own Awareness alike structured way of thinking. Which is painful, not in accordance, unrelated, corrupt to our understanding and not the path to liberation. Readers! Because of this idea, they get the chance to let you think that you everyone is just here on earth, random bodies, and just organized by governments. And not governed by Awareness. Readers! Because of thinking like this, they go on with their campaign, through education, mass media, monopoly games and religious dogmas. Understand that you think they have like anyone a fair chance to get into power structures as you think you do have. Readers! There is not a single one of your streams in their club. Understand that if you entangle in their doings, their misinformation, you will try to get other streams of Awareness that experiences Self-realization in-line with the opposite Awareness. This is the corruption, the disease they spread through their power games. IF you see your neighbor as a stream connected to the same Awareness due to ones behavior that shows it, then one can drop ones hate. And understand that this being also is indoctrinated by society and their rumbling campaigns of power. May there be after reading this all, be understanding among you all. Overcome hatred by compassion. What can we do? Readers! I have been explaining this to you, as it is. I am well awakened to my true nature, my true duty, and can explain the whole bunch of it by the law of impermanence and the law of actions leading to the according results. Which together I shall name as: The Laws of Revelations. Readers! By my explanation, the system shakes, the streams get updated, the information grid gets powered up by life force. Let us study this game together! Readers! There are many on youtube debunking Ball earth, and a lot of other things. Understand that I can give you the whole bunch of history. There are more bones here in the ground than all sand crystals in the sea. You have wept more tears then all the oceans together. Readers! When you start your debunking campaign, you will realize the following: - I am not my body. - I am not an idea of me. - I am taught through information campaigns and family how I ought to live and how I ought not to live my life! You will quickly then ask: I might have not a free will. That I think like this, is a result. And what I do now, will be a result. Readers! You are in self-doubt, deluded, indoctrinated from birth... Because you are multi incarnated, you can't attain your memory over earthly bodies for as long as you are not depended on Awareness, but on the Opposite Awareness disinformation, that is spread through society everywhere. Readers! When the Ball earth falls, when the deception for you falls in part, you will realize quickly after how much else is lied about. How this indeed been agreed upon, and you will by your own nature understand how you can get rid of the deep imprints by seclusion, that I have been teaching on and on here on this forum. Readers! there is one among you, one that knows how to discern the drop from the ocean, the glow from the fire, the saltiness from salt, wisdom from the wise, intelligence from the intelligent and therefor attained the power of vision, right discernment because of secluding from society, the sense indulgence, because of developing wisdom, becoming intelligent and being fully depended upon Awareness. This one has waited for long to share this information with you. Learn to Trust YOUR TrueSelf! You can't win the game, by fighting it. You must learn to seclude, detach from their disinformation, and Your TrueSelf will be attained soon or later overcoming the Body identifications and "Free Will thinking" and death (illusion of separation within you) will lose its grip. When lost its grip, you will gain perfect understanding about the law of impermanence, the law of actions leading to its according results, and how one can gain Awareness by cessation through seclusion. Everything will unfold, Always. Readers! My vision has been shared with you, it can't be undone as it will spread quickly through the interwoven fabric of life force. My final words for now: Unlearn what you have learned be among other of your streams to start sharing information concerning the game, and above all: Trust YOUR TrueSelf!

Some of you must also realize that they are not ready YET. If there is huge functional issue(s) in your life, work on that first. You might get an awakening experience and totally pissing your life away after that (or maybe you're doing it right now ?), by simply thinking there is nothing else to do in life than to realize your enlightement. You would be like these spiritual seekers, chasing experience after experience, doing nothing else from their gifts, not even trying to be a benevolent force (which is very egotistical if you are conscious that you could). There is a term for these kind of people, junkies. That's exactly what you're doing right now if you feel you absolutely NEED to be awakened, which is not suprising, since the ego is a infinite void seeking to fill itself (which he cannot). Don't stop meditating, it has too much health benefit, but stop the search, STOP THE SEARCH, If your mind isn't rock solid, and if you don't have total independancy in your life, just stop.

I think here lies the problem waveintheocean. This is the root of your idea of being. I state that I am Awareness, but we discussed already, that it doesn't mean its there like being something (like with victim and raper). Thinking you are nothing, is the polarized way of therefor being something (or everything). And this is based on a wrong view. Why? Because the law of everything states, everything is temporary in nature, nothing is permanent... Yet you can't there for be a single thing out of anything due to that its empty in nature. Then, due to that this is the case, one state: I am therefor nothing. Which is still the same attachment to eternalness. (The belief someone is something (everything) is nihilism, and the belief someone is nothing, is eternalism. Its the middle way to take, Awareness. This belief of being something or nothing is thus an absolute trap) (and a classical one, the trap of extremes). The trap of something and nothing is a dangerous long cycle. Awareness, and polarity can be compared with the sun. The sunlight is always sunlight and everything transforms due to it. However without this sunlight, what will be living on earth? The sunlight or its warmth is not something, nor is it nothing, just like with the body and awareness. Nothing, can't govern, nor can something govern anything. Awareness can and does govern, yet not being entangled with the process of this all, the warmth of the sun isn't something, nor nothing. And to go to the bottom of it, one states due to thinking one is nothing, that awareness, isn't nothing, therefor it must be something (everything). And because its something its temporary in nature. (Nihilism, you the small particle in the big ocean of everything) Yes, this is like a splinter in ones mind. Now you get the part about nothing. Nothing is permanent in nature... This with, everything being temporary in nature. This means, Nothing IS permanent, but Nothing has not a permanent nature (it would then be Awareness which is not nothing) (nor has it a temporary nature, nothing isn't everything, because its not temporary in nature). Awareness is permanent in ITS nature whatever subtle transcendental nature that might be. And this is the trap where many seem to fall for... Eternalism (being permanent, which is nothing). Then you get, oh, we should use the word infinity instead, but its the same attachment to eternalism, the same extreme. Then Awareness in this view, through these glases of attachment to eternlalism, becomes a sort of something, even though temporary in nature, one settles with the fact that one is nothing after all, always beyond, there for infinity. This surely is a splinter indeed, and I definitely hope it is highlighted clearly now. This view, and accumulation of thinking being nothing, while one isn't nothing or something, leads to immorality being chaotic and restless as a result. Surely now became clear that I never stated that I am everything (nor nothing), not in any of my posts anywhere on this forum. (prove me wrong) and that this too is highlighted clearly now. I hope now became clear that this is based on ones beLIEf that one is everything by being nothing, which is eternalism. (Awareness is all pervasive, can't be compared, so can't be insignificant, that would be like telling the sunlight and its warmth is insignificant to life on earth). Some other points: "Because I am attaining Awareness... I can only see one. And the only difference is: Is one attached to ones desires or not. " I work hard in Attaining Awareness, and I am guaranteed to succeed. All signals are clear due to that. I have not yet attained complete Awareness, but am completely anchored, well established in Dharma, seeing one. Which means that only Karmic results are playing itself out, when naturally coming to its end, then I attained the Supreme. However this is tricky because I could end as no longer coming for a rebirth, this I prevent and will prevent consciously, therefor, I have choosen the path of Buddhisattva, which in turn, if you want to know, will take eons before I reach the stage of becoming a fully enlightened self awakened Buddha. I never stated that I attained enlightenment anywhere in my posts. However, I am doing my duty, teaching, writing (many including yourself post wonderful questions for the book I write). Doing ones duty that is in accordance with ones core, is better then meditation, due to that one can learn to be free of the result of his actions. If one would do someone else job, although perfect, one will be attached to the fruits of result. So better to make countless mistakes doing the job that resonates with your own heart. This is of course apart from the subject presented here. That someone does or does not yet attained the supreme, doesn't mean one can't learn from such a being. Please understand, if someone is clearly less wise then yourself, refrain from this person if not being able to guide from your heart yet. If someone is equally wise then yourself, one should together work on advancing spiritually. And if someone is clearly wiser then yourself, stay in touch and learn from him. One could state from someone who is attaining Awareness, that one has not yet Attained awareness, but have had its fruit already, and works and lives without sin, free from the fruits of good and bad regarding ones duty. Such a being is anchored, well established in the Dharma. Saying that one must have reached ultimate enlightenment, and then only then one might teach about enlightenment, is utterly nonsense, such thinking brings no luck of any kind. And due that this teachings are about enlightenment, coming from one that is well established, is guaranteed to succeed, there is not a trace of pretending. Do you yourself honestly think, that of all my posts here on this website, you would think would come from a pretender?? Someone who has fully attained enlightenment, is much greater then I am, if you find this already great, surely you havent have any clue what a fully realized one is like. Nah, not quite true. The concepts shared here, and the techniques shared, are the teacher. You yourself must become the way. A spiritual teacher or guide, is someone throwing you on yourself, and when accepting and working hard, this going inside, and outside, and back within, rubs ones mind clean like two hands rubbing each other until both hands are clean. Regarding being everything or nothing, or being nothing therefor everything: Refrained from both extremes of being; one walks the middle path that is Awareness.

@jse Please stay working on yourself. You still havent learned your lesson: Dear Jse, You miss again the point, Jse. So I will again explain it to you. The dhammapada, is well studied by me, and its examples are good to share. I live up to those examples, secluded from unwholesome deeds, sense indulgence, concentrated on Awareness and I am awakened to my true duty in accordance with my True Self. However, you seem to miss the point again. Your aim should not be me, but the subject that is presented. If you find it misinformation, support this with decent evidence. Refer to what is pseudo-wisdom in what I shared here as teachings. If someone lives up to it, and shares examples that enlighten the way, then surely this is wise to do. For those who follow it up, and look into it, surely, this is wise to do as well. However, if you do not come up with decent arguments, surely any intelligent being reading this, will surely understand that what you say is hollow, your own misunderstanding that is situated in either your own passions or ignorance. And should read the Dhammapada yourself and put it into action. I do not see a single article coming from you, that actually challenges what I shared here as teachings. There for I conclude because of not taking a stand to actually debunk it with decent arguments, your post as being filled with ramblings and pseudo-wisdom, egotism and can be there for classified as foolish, per swaying people to agree on things that lack evidence and has therefor nothing to do with wisdom, being intelligent and being situated in the fruit of wholesomeness. If you disagree, and are not willing to put any evidence in what is wrong with what I am teaching here, and why it should be otherwise, and how it should be otherwise, then surely if you can't keep your mouth shut, sit still, putting your attention on yourself and being concentrated on Awareness, and instead just keep mumbling around here in this forum referring to me how I am situated in spiritual egotism, you clearly miss your aim, and are yourself trying to astray by your pseudo-wisdom. For you can also just not read what I write, put me on ignore, and leave it at rest. But you do not do this, you come to me, again and again. How can that be of a good intent? Surely you didn't miss that.

The non-duality war I personally think its very healthy if there is a part on the forum where people actually truly can debate discuss it, but not mengled with the articles of certain paths. Because it can get them to think critically. (it requires however another set up in the forum). I do strongly disagree that all paths are as good as others. Of course, someone who is further sees that the 8 folded path, that purifies the desires is best among paths, because someone is thrown in himself. But what makes something like this, or such a claim toxic? Because there is certainly a point being made by Leo. Keep in mind the 8 folded path, we will come back on that in a min. So what is then so toxic? I will show you guys an example of what is toxic, what is a perfect example of trying to "debunk" something in an ill way (not to forget, debunking is healthy, I promote it). Here is an example shown that is actually thrown, and already explained in my comment what is so wrong about it. Dear xxxx, You miss again the point, xxxx. So I will again explain it to you. The dhammapada, is well studied by me, and its examples are good to share. I live up to those examples, secluded from unwholesome deeds, sense indulgence, concentrated on Awareness and I am awakened to my true duty in accordance with my True Self. However, you seem to miss the point again. Your aim should not be me, but the subject that is presented. If you find it misinformation, support this with decent evidence. Refer to what is pseudo-wisdom in what I shared here as teachings. If someone lives up to it, and shares examples that enlighten the way, then surely this is wise to do. For those who follow it up, and look into it, surely, this is wise to do as well. However, if you do not come up with decent arguments, surely any intelligent being reading this, will surely understand that what you say is hollow, your own misunderstanding that is situated in either your own passions or ignorance. And should read the Dhammapada yourself and put it into action. I do not see a single article coming from you, that actually challenges what I shared here as teachings. There for I conclude because of not taking a stand to actually debunk it with decent arguments, your post as being filled with ramblings and pseudo-wisdom, egotism and can be there for classified as foolish, per swaying people to agree on things that lack evidence and has therefor nothing to do with wisdom, being intelligent and being situated in the fruit of wholesomeness. If you disagree, and are not willing to put any evidence in what is wrong with what I am teaching here, and why it should be otherwise, and how it should be otherwise, then surely if you can't keep your mouth shut, sit still, putting your attention on yourself and being concentrated on Awareness, and instead just keep mumbling around here in this forum referring to me how I am situated in spiritual egotism, you clearly miss your aim, and are yourself trying to astray by your pseudo-wisdom. For you can also just not read what I write, put me on ignore, and leave it at rest. But you do not do this, you come to me, again and again. How can that be of a good intent? Surely you didn't miss that. ................................................................................................... (So for all haters of Leo (or anyone else that is hated) that do not have come yet with decent arguments and are not willing to present them, but are just attacking, this message above is for you as well). The same counts for all that have something to say about Leo... If you don't have decent arguments, then leave it be. You must be ready to give arguments when asked for them. However I do point out towards Leo, see, they throw at me as well, and I have seen very very nasty things being said towards Leo, without a decent argument, or not willing to later point things out more, clearly with decent arguments, (e.g youtube) and I have seen nasty things being thrown at me. So whats toxic? That which makes it toxic, is that people do not come with decent arguments, and when asked, still don't. I would definitely would like to see a place where people can criticize peoples work, but with decent arguments (I stand widely open to be debunked very hard, but one must be coming with arguments, that are verifiable, and if I ever write something, people can just say to me: Please let us debate this, I wanna put this to the test with decent arguments, and I shall never say, I am not interested to support my claims with decent arguments with a clear mark of refraining from sophism). Preventing this healthy critical thinking in a forum, surely will lead people to think, oh Leo is going to discern who is non dual and who is not, and this is however imposing a non-dual by not non-dual which is toxic if not supported by good, solid arguments. (I am willing to support this further if Leo wants this, I stand wide open to make myself useful here) I don't believe Leo meant that as his intention however. Remember the claim about the 8 folded path? I dare to speak out that the 8 folded path is the best among paths. And I am willing to put decent arguments on that. Nothing toxic about that. However, I do am afraid that many, just can't put up decent arguments that are refrained from sophism, to actually truly demonstrate why its wrong even if they would wish. Some examples from other works, is just not enough to debunk something, although a valid point can be made. I am not supporting psychedelics, but I am betting that Leo would not say to me: Motus, you are crazy, you didn't gave me solid reasons why not, you are toxic. I always come with arguments, and if not, one can always ask for them, and I give them. And I find this healthy, because in this way I can warn for his reputation, (its what a good wise friend would do)! Create an article about what truly is non-dual according to you, and stand open for an argument back, letting readers decide for themselves. Thats key. And I would suggest that the administrator can use this information for improvement into all directions. (useful information can come out). Saying: Those non-dual, will never debunk something or debate it and correct a wrong view. This is not true. An enlightened being, or someone with a great understanding or someone rooted in Dharma, is only here to debunk with powerful sublime arguments. Debunking is for example what you do as well Leo, its what you should do. Its refraining from such duty that is dual, being attached. I wonder how many people got debunked by Leo in a positive manner, and I well support many of the points he made. (And I maybe should give those more credit here). I would rather say, if someone makes a probable toxic claim, they should be able to start an article on a forum, and challenge this. IF they do not respond to that, not even when asked in private to join it, or do join, but keep being toxic, not using arguments, just sophism to persway people and make war, now that is a reason to ban. I don't see a reason to ban, because he said; take the path I took, your path is wrong Leo. Or, Leo is not the right teacher. Motus is a bad teacher, his teachings are rubbish. (taking this personally is of course based on a wrong view, there for asking for arguments, which if one is not willing to put, and keeps going on with sophism and per swaying, then you can state: Wrong intent, false speech, wrong act, wrong view, wrong place of attention and concentration) (= Reason to ban?) Why no banning straight away, what do I think? Because, such a claim can be supported by arguments and should at some point, and the reader should ask for them to kindly explain why, if the writer did come up with decent arguments that can be checked to be valid, by his own core with a clear mark of refraining from sophism, he should be reasonable. Well now, the one answering should put decent arguments, and refraining from sophism. Otherwise, yes, if one just claims widely, without arguments, just throwing and throwing, is indeed making toxic claims due to not willing to support this claim with decent arguments. Deciding what is a good argument, valid argument etc, yes, one must be more educated, and that is another problem I come across. Therefor if someone is trying to debunk me, I will be more critical at pointing out rather why its sophism, and why it should be avoided. And I will do this as well for Leo, or anyone, if I see sophism, for the sake of education. I would ask nicely, that those who get a decent argument thrown at them, learn from it. Get along, harmonize, learn. I would ask nicely, that those who do not have a decent argument or are not be willing to put one when asked, just shut your mouth, and sit with it. Go watch some video's of Leo, or read some of the teachings I posted here. I really would like to see a reply from Leo, how he looks at the points I make here, as he is the administrator. And really would like to hear your thoughts about this article. (Remember, again, don't attack me, for theres no me, or a Leo, just learn to focus on my points that I make and come with arguments that are in line with the subject presented). (I posted it in the same forum, for practical reasons)