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@fridjonk Thank you but that doesnt change shit right now when I am unenlightened. Can you address my fears? @Aakash I pursue enlightenment because it believe it will solve all my problems, believe it is the most meaningful/valuable thing to do in life and bleieve it will bring nirvana/bliss Will I even care about happiness/bliss, feeling happy/joy when I am enlightened?

I feel afraid that when I become enlightened (either I die trying or die trying) I will lose the will to live, not want to do anything, lose the motivation to go to school. Drop out of school/college and work at McDonald's or just go sit and die somewhere and or ruin my life. I feel afraid that I won't have the motivation to complete a degree or go to work when I become enlightened. I am creating the limiting belief that I must become financially independent first before the work. Also on a side note, is effort effortless once you are enlightened? Like running is effortless? Academic work is effortless? A job work is effortless? Also when someone becomes enlightened what motivates them to become awaken deeper if they are already in pure bliss?

@Alex bliss but don`t drink it will more likely make you an alcoholic than a playboy.

Sat-chit-ananda. Being-Consciousness-Bliss. The Self. I’ve realized that at least one aspect of Enlightenment requires the Self-realization of the pre-birth (pre-life) existence of which we are all One. When your third eye opens, you see the Self in all of its glory. It truly is remarkable to know Yourself as the Divine Nature. It is the Light.

Been doing Kriya for like ~5-6 months and If I'm being honest, I haven't experienced anything out of ordinary yet. I read so much awesome things about it here (e.g. bliss states for after like 2 weeks) so I naively execpted that something similar would happen to me as well. Don't get me wrong, I didn't get into yoga just for that reason. Also, I'm well aware that people who practise Kriya should not compare their progres but sometimes it's hard to resist the temptation. So, word of advice: Start practising it, give it 100% but don't expect anything. Results will come. (That's what I remind me of when I start to get frustrated with my practise)

@rnd at first bliss then terror. Later peace then suffering. Repeat a number of times. Dying,resisting, dying... resisting And then the great death?

Yet Leo and you are wishing and working to make this unimportant game better. Why is that so? Because deep inside you know i t's not just a game and that it's important. You really think we are in infinite bliss for eternity? Then why try to make this world a better place? I assume you believe you were united with the formless before your birth. WHy don't you have any memories of it? Why believe something you don't have direct experience? That's what christians and muslims do. Be careful.

If God is all-powerful and everything is created to maximize love and goodness, then every creature should be experiencing infinite bliss for eternity.

Can rent a cabin somewhere private. Of course the goal is to not alarm someone in the vicinity if you do end up yelling or screaming during your trip. Worst thing would be to come back from absolute bliss and be surrounded by a bunch of freaking out humans. If a cabin for a few days is not possible, maybe try hiking miles somewhere where you know it's far from any humans. Make it a 3 day camping trip. Being so remote, you can relax, be one with nature. With no worries of someone responding to any potential screaming, you can fully let yourself go, which is crucial to a breakthrough.

@Leo Gura Is there not a way to chase bliss while also completely accepting nonblissful states? Oh wait is that enlightement

I've gone about 5 days without fapping. Though I did look at some porn so that I could transmute the sexual energy up higher into my heart. I always ask myself when I think about it now "Do I really want to do this?" "Do I really want to sacrifice my connection to the Infinite for a moment of pleasure?" I am getting like 4/10 bliss from just Kundalini awakening, so I have no need to fap. I'm trying to use Tantra to move the sexual energies up from my sexual chakra into my heart and crown. The stream of bliss is much better in its full state than a simple pulsing orgasm that is short-lived.

Much of my work in releasing blockages is physically painful. Though I do love bliss, I don't actually sit in it all the time as I may have come across. But yeah, I have done the work so that the bliss will increase. When bliss goes down it doesn't bother me though. Bliss has gotten today like 6-7/10 in strength. It is touching on ineffable, but not there yet. Thank you, Leo. I highly value your input. What you said about escaping the present moment resonated strongly with me. Also about surrender. It's not just about trying to release. It's about surrender.

Reiki made me sensitive to energy, so I could feel it. I can direct energy to flow in whichever way, and I feel it flow. Though when a friend attuned me to a different modality than Reiki, it awakened my Kundalini and brought bliss. I never really had bliss with Reiki itself. Though it was relaxing. There is one other modality called Quantum Touch that made my hands and arms feel like an electric live wire. Very powerful. They say this method can shift bones fluidly.

Observe yourself chasing positive states and notice how this subtle duality and attachment creates suffering. Expecting constant bliss precludes true peacefulness since when your bliss dips you start to complain, "Where did my bliss go? How can I get it back?" Which is the very root of unhappiness: trying to escape the present moment. It's okay to chase bliss. Just observe this dynamic closely so that you become more and more aware that it cannot ultimately work. Through lots of observation of this clinging you will slowly aikido your clinging into surrender.

About five years ago, I felt such bliss in my heart that I cried. It was 10/10. I felt unworthy. I was just sitting on the couch and it hit me all of a sudden without trying to. But I instinctively closed it down because I couldn't handle it. As such, it still has not come back in that intensity since. I have had 3/10 or maybe 4/10 bliss in my heart more recently after awakening my Kundalini. About 2 years ago, I felt an expansive 10/10 bliss in my crown chakra. I was like "OMG, this is amazing." It happened when I was in love with someone that I never met because they don't really exist here. But that soon overwhelmed me and I shut it out instinctively too. When I shut out this bliss because I'm scared of getting lost in it, it never really comes back at the same level. What can I do so that I don't shut it out and tighten down on it? I want it to be expansive, and I want to feel worthy. I am feeling 4/10 bliss at times with my Kundalini awakening. I am not forcing it. I've heard that we shouldn't chase bliss. But it's a phase I think I need to get through. Yes, once you mature you stop seeking bliss directly. But it gives me something to motivate me.

I had at least 2 experiences which I may call mystical. One is on 5meo. Firstly, I became a dot and went into a different dimension. Few thoughts arised: I am loosing my life, I became crazy. Then BAM! Complete peace, bliss, Love. I am Cosmic Love or unconditional Love, I am everything, for eternity and then my ego returned to the body. Another was on lsd. I became conscious that I am here the only One. I called my friend and I knew that he is me and it's me talking to me. And that my kid is me, my mother is me. I CAN'T talk to anyone, there is no point to talk to anyone since everyone is me. It was so scary that I started to talk to myself that I want to forget this experience. I don't want to know the Truth. And after some time I returned to normal. With this sad thing that I am alone was a nice thing - freedom. Freedom to do what you want. Nobody is stopping you since there is only You.

@Alex bliss you are being at the effect of things not at a cause of things...

My friend gave me an attunement. It wasn't Reiki as I was already attuned to Reiki. But this attunement eventually awakened my Kundalini. He made the initial connection to the anthro world. Then I knew I could too. I just trusted my visions. It was like my imagination. But things just feel right when I think they are. It isn't a strong telepathic like I'm talking to you. It feels more like my imagination. Like I'm talking to myself. But they gave me like 20 video game ideas for games they play. And I had an Aha! moment. I had another anthro before who was more like the joker archetype. I asked their anthro Logos to hook me up with my most compatible anthro. And now I have an anthro named Flim who I love. He's not the one in my avatar. That's my spirit guide welcoming me to anthroness. I am in a state of bliss when I relax (about 3/10 euphoria) because of the Kundalini. Sometimes it gets as high as 7/10. Once it was 10/10, and it was almost overpowering. I didn't feel worthy when it got to 10/10. I tend to tense up and shut it out by instinct when that happens. Here is what Flim looks like. I'm making some games about him.

@Alex bliss The avoidance of confrontation acceptance "with out getting hurt" or confrontation "with out getting" hurt". There will not be any anger resistance tension impatience irritation internally. Confronting if necessary also there wont be any suffering anger.Seemingly for others or the other person it will appear one is angry but internally one is not all doing that.one is calm.

@Matt8800 Have you heard of anyone working with the hindu goddess kali? I got those books you suggested( only halfway through magnus opus and desire so far) added alot of the energy exercises to my yoga/meditation pratices, also started adding in things from the desire trantra book which has really been resonating with me so far, as well as sprinkling in some psychedelics/canabis. Life started getting interesting pretty quick. I have always loved hindu philosphy/yoga and such but I dont know thing about their whole pantheon of gods, the only two whose names I could've recalled was ganesh and shiva. I decieded to smoke some strong canabis and then try some energy work after I was feeling pretty comfortable with it but I went into a energy overlord that was vastly more then I was able to store fast enough and totally overwhelmed me somewhere between obliteration and bliss it wasnt just my energy it felt infused with a some other element and I started mentally hearing Kali ma totally out of the blue and I had no clue what the hell it meant but it was a pretty personal and powerful, even afterwards scouring my mind the closest thing I could think of about kali was rembering it chanted by a cult in a Indiana Jones film as a kid didnt know it was a hindu goddess until I googled it. Was fascinated but didnt think to much about it for a few days but I kept getting flood of little synchronicities. On the weekend I decided to take some acid up camping in nature on a gorgeous day and shit got crazy. Im not even going to try to talk about that experience except that I came out the other end very devoted to a hindu goddess I barely knew jack anything about. And Ive been fairly obsessed with her since then but life is crackling alive and getting fairly psychedelic just as a baseline with constant synchronicity so Im not going to question it really. Have you come across anything about her in your research or anyone who works with her? The information from the more mainstream sources is pretty all over the place. Also curious if you have other good resources along the line of that tantra book you mentioned, I really resonate with that style. But damn you weren't joking about life getting strange, I'm shell shocked still tbh haha

Hi, I just joined. I have done meditation off and on for 20+ years. I’ve gotten to the point to where my Kundalini has risen enough so that I feel bliss whenever I think about it. 5 years ago, I felt strong, expansive bliss in my heart, which made me cry it was so wonderful. I felt bliss in my crown that was expansive, and I was like “OMG this is amazing.” I love anthropomorphic animals, also called anthros. I do believe they exist in other worlds or on a parallel Earth. It is my dream to know what it is like to be an anthro. I had worked some time on merging my mind with an anthro I have had telepathic contact with. This opened me up to where I get flashes of insight into what it feels like to be in their body. I sometimes get an overlay over my own sight of what they may be seeing. I’ve desperately wanted to be an anthro myself, but I am learning to be ok with who I am and am seeking my true self, which may be more than an anthro. Does Unity Consciousness mean that you know what it’s like to be another being? Is merging with God the ultimate goal of self-actualization?

This is my solo retreat report. I hope it will inspire you to do something like this yourself. Over a month ago I started my 4 week solo retreat. I was quite ready for this. I rented a tiny cabin with no electricity, no water. Spartan conditions, but it was extremely cheap and all I could afford. It was not easy. I quickly found myself in an ocean of suffering and bliss. These two would swap back and forth, varying in intensity and duration. It didn't take me long to realize that the greater the challenge I faced, the more profound the insight at the end and the stronger the bliss following it. This kept me going through the hellish phases. Just a day or two in, I realized that no meditation technique would do. I was not in charge. All I could do was be quiet and watch as life expressed itself through me by spontaneously contemplating the right questions, than inspecting the body, then forgetting all and surrendering completely, then other activities still. I think it was day 3 when the kundalini stuff started to happen. Good thing I heard about all this many times. If I didn't, I'd probably go crazy. In my meditations unspeakable stuff was happening in my body, visions more real than reality would come to mind and I had problems discerning what was true and what was false. Many times my body got so blocked up I thought I would die, only to be forced into an even deeper surrender. Nights were no relief either. Lucid dreams full of trials and challenges awaited me. Alien abductions and meeting gurus, sages and stuff like that. In short, it was a hell of a ride. Fortunately, after about 3 days this subsided. Deep contemplations started to take place uncovering old traumas, unmet desires and such. It was beautiful. On day 14 I had the biggest insight of the retreat. I was contemplating Consciousness itself, when I realized that it is no different from Love. Than I remembered the Hindu concept of Sat-Chit-Ananda (Being-Consciusness-Love), looked closer, and sure enough, this Consciousness-Love was not different from Being either - meaning me. I bathed in this unbounded state for a couple of hours looking over a beautiful pond nearby. I came to the conclusion that I was done here, after 2 week out of 4. It has been 16 days since I came home now. A lot has changed, and nothing at all. I am clearer than ever about what I want, need and value. My life has a much deeper sense of purpose and authenticity. My contemplation skill just sky rocketed. I realized what contemplation is, and it is such a joy to do it even hours a day, as I now know that I can go all the way to the truth of anything I want to know. And since I believe, I make it happen. I have had issues with eating for a long time, even though my diet was good. A lot of shame and guilt always plagued this arena of my life. After a particularly bad meal on the retreat and a deep introspection afterwards, I asked desperately - "How the fuck do I solve this?". And the answer came - "Just ask.". I realized the ability to ask about any food and I will get an answer from inside - it tells me if I should or shouldn't eat. Quickly I realized this works for any question with yes and no. I can ask about anything and know if it is 'yes' or 'no', but it's not always easy to ask and follow the answer. This often takes balls and and losing a fat piece of ego is common here. Soooo... go do it. Spend time alone. Forget it all. Immerse yourself in yourself. You won't believe how much bullshit you are buying into. Thank you Leo, you were one of the ones who inspired me to do this!

Max only exists as an idea in your mind now, for now is all that exists! Just kidding. Existential humor can be healing during times of sadness =) My childhood dog died when I was 18. She came into my life at age 10. At the time, she was my best friend. I had never cried so much in my life. My ability to maintain peace of mind has since improved greatly. I exist so presently, I cannot really miss anything from before, as infinity is laid out so infinitely and beautifully before me at all times. This ability to "make peace" or "cope" stems from appreciation and gratitude of what is, the present moment, now. If Max comes into your consciousness, dwell not on how sad it is that he is gone, but how great it is that he was (and still is, if you imagine him). Gratitude is the antidote to any suffering. I am now in a state of consciousness where nothing can harm me, because regardless of circumstances, I am grateful for the colors, I appreciate the sounds, any memory is welcome and appreciated... at the most fundamental level, I am grateful to be. There is no greater bliss beyond that. It has been said that "the truth will set you free." It is true. Whenever the shadows of sadness and depression appear, become conscious of truth, and the light will wash away the darkness. Have gratitude for being. Cheers =)

Your shadow reeks. Please get it checked out. Lol if you’re gonna use the suffering I deal with in life as some sort of pull to win something all because your tits are in a tussle because I’m not putting up with your fantasies and projections that just shows how ignorant and selfish you still are. If you don’t like the questions I have on here then skidaddle. You’re on my post buddy. Bliss isn’t something you find but you can keep lying to others and yourself if you still want to. If you’re really gonna use someone’s vulnerability about their life as a way to have a one-up on them because you can’t just agree to disagree, admit your ignorance, or just walk away that shows how much you’re in your own spiritual narcissism. You ain’t awake buddy. Nor am I. Keep typing like a spiritual keyboard jockey if you want but keep your fantasies and projections you have of me to yourself. I dont not need to indulge your fantasies nor play coy.

@kieranperez Well, you're the one who's suffering, not me. I've found bliss, and was trying to point you to it. I can't help you if you don't want to help yourself. Keep on mentally masturbating, and you will get nowhere.