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Happiness or Bliss is not Enlightenment but via Happiness/Bliss Enlightenment is that much closer as an Everyday Experience.. For sure You will not Experience Enlightenment via Suffering, how can One be Suffering and Experiencing Truth? Just look at Nature (anything non Human), its mostly perfect, its a Physical Reflection of Truth, if all Humans were too disappear, the planet would flourish, but if Bees, Insects, Plants, Trees, Soil, etc were to disappear, we would all die... So that tells You. So via Happiness/Bliss, the path to Enlightenment is easier and more available to You, it will come naturally as You are no longer a slave to outside situations and have an inner sense of Reality as it is, Clarity!

Overwhelmed as in "oweee poor mee's, I dunno what to dooo, who am I in this chaos, what is going on..."? Basically, yes. Overwhelmed as in "I have such a strong desire to fulfill this goal, I'm overwhelmed by drive and purpose, I'm drowning in ecstatic bliss, rapture and the wonder of life"? No. You can have those things when enlightened, but if they're not virtually constant, they will be very streamlined and fleeting. Rarely will you approach a problem and feel stuck. Neuroscientifically speaking, enlightenment puts you in a constant doing-mode. There is very little room for hesitation, at least moment to moment. You can "hesitate" or withhold making a decision; you can be wise and wait things out; but indecision due to personal calamities and generally unstable behavior is rather out of the picture definitionally. You could imagine someone regressing in their state due to severe environmental stress or illness, but other than that, no, they're pretty much beyond that. If you look at sincerely enlightened people; the way they act, the way they move, speak, emote; it's like a flowing stream. They have let go of something big, partially the desire to control, partially the desire to be something, to have something, to let something be other than it is. And of course the paradox is that on the outside, it looks almost nothing like it. They are doing so many things, they are making so many apparent decisions, have such strong desires and values. To discern enlightenment, requires dealing with subtle clues.

@EdgeGod900 The “follow your bliss” people have large red and blue shadows. In life you have to do a lot of miserable shit that will make you stronger and more disciplined. Forget the hippe slogans for now and drill down on your strengths and weaknesses, so you can set yourself up. Then you can choose to bask in the sun and meditate without any distractions.

Sorry what is 'Follow your bliss' and 'Zone of genius'? Are those books?

What I gathered from Following your Bliss, is doing something you want intrinsically/ spiritually/ subconsciously Whereas Zone of Genius is something you are scared to grow into. It seems like its almost impossible to see the distinction between following your Bliss vs Zone of Competence.

You don't understand what I mean. What supreme bliss or benediction? That's religion . The only bliss is open your eyes and see the beauty. You are what exist. Everything is here, now. The substance of this moment is the existence. There is nothing more better or sacred of anything, it's always the same: the existence. Forget the perspective of future, heaven, other dimensions, god, all that are just ideas. The real thing is here, now. It's the totality.everythig else is just the same. Just remove the psyche and feel the real thing, the unlimited.

All too dark for me I'll choose the supreme bliss and benediction every time Rather than dabbling in these nightmares thanks I am going home You continue as you are though

I can agree, the Body and Mind are full of Karma or Conditioning, Tendencies or one can say "Predetermination" but that is the level of Survival and Intentions and taking actions, the body is very Survival Orientated, the Mind is very Cultural and Societal orientated, its very conditioned, what You think, Your ideologies of Life, likes and dislikes are very conditioned into You as well as influenced by genes and such (all of this are forms of memory which relates to Karma), but we are not the Body and Mind (as You said earlier), we can rise about the Body and Mind level of Awareness, and be Undetermined in only "How we Experience Life", which has nothing to do with Actions, or thinking, or intentions, its before all of that, and via the Experience of Oneness, Completeness, Bliss, Consciousness, Absolute, then we function here with a Body and Mind, perform actions that in someways seem predetermined, but our experience is not, and that is where life is... The higher up Your Intensity is of Awareness, Perception, Consciousness, Bliss (Sat Chit Ananda, Truth/Consciousness/Bliss) then the more Free Will You have access too, this is only in the realm of our Personal Experience, which is either of a separate detached Individual entity from everything else, or that of Oneness, Connected, Inclusive with Everything else...Not of what the Body does, what the Mind does, its thinking process, its survival mechanism process and the desires it wants to fulfill!!

The body is not yourself. The mind is not yourself. They're only temporary conditionings. They're there for a while then they're gone. Like bubbles on the ocean. Bubbles come bubbles go every second. Yet the ocean always remains the same. And so it is with life on this planet. People come people go. things come..things go everything changes.. changes..changes but you are the ocean of bliss. You have absolutely nothing to do with these changes whatsoever. This is the key realisation to freedom or liberation.

Last week, I experienced the most profound reactivation episode to date, and it occurred while dreaming. Although I've had other reactivations, none were as intense as this one. It's been over two years since I last used any psychedelics, following a period in which I did more than 200 trips involving mushrooms, 5-MeO-DMT, and 5-MeO-MALT. In the dream, I found myself held captive by two individuals who demanded a ransom for my release. Once they got the ransom, they let me go, but before doing it they poisoned me and set the building where I was being imprisoned on fire. I knew how to get the antidote, but I had only minutes before the poison would begin to kill me. I escaped the building which was about to explode only to find out that my captors had framed me as the perpetrator. The police now believed I was the kidnapper. While I was being held on the ground by police officers, I was trying to explain the whole situation to a female detective, which wasn’t buying it. All of a sudden the poison started killing me, my thumb finger was swelling at growing speed. I was sure I was about to die. But then my swollen thumb finger divided itself in the middle and right at the centre of my thumb appeared the Mind of God, infinity. At this point, I was starting to realize my true identity. In all of the chaos that ensued, I felt the need to ask the female detective, "Who am I?" She was hypnotized by the appearance of infinity in the middle of my thumb and wasn't really listening to me. So I kept asking, again and again, each time more vehemently. She finally answered, "You are God." Then our gazes met, and I could read in her eyes that we were having the same simultaneous realization: "Oh fuck, oh fuck, I'm God! I'm God!" The dream universe was melting down while we were realizing we were the same entity. Just after I died and woke up in the dream to myself as God, I found myself in "real" reality, and the enlightenment experience picked up from where it left off in the dream. At this point, I was fully aware of myself as God, experiencing unity and metaphysical love with my room/consciousness, just as in the peak of a 5-MEO-MALT trip. Waves of bliss flowed from my spine up to my brain, like a kundalini awakening. I decided to breathe, relax, and let the experience cool down. If I had wanted, I could have followed the waves of bliss and kept the experience going, but I chose to let it go. Has anyone else experienced a "dream awakening" such as the one I've shared? What kind of reactivation experiences do you have? Mine tend to be kundalini-related; I often wake up in the middle of the night with waves of bliss flowing through my spine. P.S. I think those nasty kidnappers gave me some "imaginary DMT", not poison.

@manuel bon then we agree to disagree No worries. If i need to use a proper word I will use a limitation as you said .that's what I actually mean . The constant need to take care of the body. To eat..shit..and piss and shower etc.. isn't that such a curse ? Why do you think all enlightened masters are trying to detach from the body ? Is carrying a body a burden or a bliss? You are identified with an imaginary temporary physical avatar.. For a while. Not for long time but for a while. The more I recognize my true nature and then compare it to the body.. The more I see the body as a burden. A burden that I have to carry on for my whole life. Babysitting this body. Task after task. Feed me. Please Me. Rest me. Move me. Clean me. Over and over again. A chore after a chore. Until I fall dead after reaching the limit of exhaustion. A house of diseases. A house of desires. The never-ending desire that doesn't amount to anything other than the multiplication of itself and the expansion of disappointment. A house of needs. A house of lacking and constant aiming. The mind can be at ease. The soul can just be content in the now. The body has to perform effort and chase after it's "needs". There seems to be a conflict between the body and the soul. The nature of limitation VS unlimitedness. What is your relationship with your body?

Yes well put, this is a game field, it can be suffering like a Hell scape or Bliss like a Heavenly realm, that is the choice, we are most choosing the Hell scape unconsciously, but it can be another way.. Again this is not "Negativity" its just the reality, we are here to live out a certain Potential, we can choose how to be, the question is only a matter of HOW!

This mostly applies to the Human World, no other Life form suffers as much or intensely as Humans do and can, so its a Human problem, and I partly agree with what You said, there are way more ppl suffering today than are Peaceful or at Bliss, and the #'s are higher than ever, but we have all the comforts and conveniences one would want to have, so its a paradox, its forcing us to look inside ourselves and take charge, because all the suffering happens within ourselves, no where else, so its a individual as well as group thing, each individual has to take responsibility for being how they want to BE, and not look for it outside themselves, that alone will changes things... It is depressing to say the least to see how this world is, I see it everyday, its hard at times to have hope and want to stick around to see how it all turns out at times...

So, I’ve done most of what can be done to get enlightened. Long retreats, shaktipat, various techniques, and so on. I’ve reached various attainments like cessation that some call enlightenment, but it’s just breadcrumbs compared to the cake of enlightenment you can reach with psychedelics. The hypothesis: You can get enlightened to the highest level via divine substances, but you have to be there for long periods of time, I’m talking months, to callibrate, to soak it up, to make it your home, to learn how to live this new life, and then you can stay there. The “clinical trial”: I will injest medium to high dose of shrooms/lsd/other every or every other weekend and I will follow their guidance how to live to maintain that state. From my experience, it’s a life of ultimate, original creativity mixed with the deepest stillness and bliss. My mind and body are healed there. It’s heaven. It’s also a natural life - alot of nature, pure, light foods, and so on. But it’s all intuitive. I noticed that if I follow what I am guided to do, I can stay awake for many nights without any negative effects, with continuous bliss and a clear mind, coupled with a non-dual or close to a non-dual, beautific state. I think you can’t penetrate into higher levels using meditation or any other technique, as you’re trying to solve an issue from the same level. You need help from above. It’s also not recommended to anyone who hasn’t trained their mind to a high level, because the mind grows more powerful the higher the state, so you MUST control it near perfectly or bad things can happen. You have to know how to maintain a positive, conscious inner state. You have to be savvy in the realm of higher states, which comes from training your mind and from dozens of trips. You also havo to understand the power of the mind. You can trick yourself completly and utterly there. If you believe demons will get ya - they will! Literally! You have to control your mind perfectly and only perfection will manifest. Otherwise, it’s the story of the Son who stole his Father’s heavenly horses and destroyed the earth. I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone tbh, only to myself as I know my level of training and I’ve done many many trips. Preparation; I know that I will feel miserable in a higher state if I enter it without preparing my body. To do so, I’m doing a 3-week fruit detox to purify my system. Daily time in nature and alot of yoga as well. Retaining my, ammm, let’s just say no sexual thoughts and similar stuff. Also doing a mental detox: using the internet only for enlightenment stuff and work. Staying conscious throughout the day. Maintaining a positive attitude. Not judging anyone or anything. Closing thoughts: The last time I did lsd I stayed in an enlightened or an almost enlightened state for 3-4 days. No sleep, little food, only beauty, love, perfection. No side effects after. I did have to live a life where I follow what my intuition says I need to do to stay there. Spent nights in nature. Was amazing and beautiful. It’s such a huge shift from a mid life to a perfect life that it’s uncomfortable. Disorienting. But after alot of visits I feel less and less confused. I hope to stay there and live that new, higher level life. We’ll see how it goes. If I see that it’s working I might create videos as it’s so fun to share original, conscious, positive, fresh thoughts that arise from a higher level of consciousness. If it works I will be maximally happy, as then, it turns out that I don’t need to work towards enlightenment for many thousands of hours via meditation as I though, but it can be given just like so. 🙏🙏 What’s better than getting Heaven with no effort? 😁

Please don't get hung up on the terms, words, labels and what they should be called. Concentrate on the underlying message and what I'm trying to point to. There's only One. God/Absolute/The All etc.. It's Infinite. We are all expressions of that. There are levels to existence: 7. The Absolute/God/The All/The One Consciousness /The One Awareness/The All knowing/Existence itself. There is no other. 6. The manifestation of #7. The I AM/Your I AM Awareness of BEING. Being aware of Yourself as that one Reality. The Absolute's expression 5. Your I AM identity. The All in physical expression. Whatever you say I AM. This is where the Law of Assumption comes in. Whatever you assume yourself to be. 4. What you assume about yourself and the world. 4 and 5 are ideas/assumptions. 3, 2 &1 goes together. Thoughts, feelings and emotions. Thoughts and feelings combined, creates the emotions. These are not reality and have no source. We get caught up in them believing they are Reality but they're not. We're trying to control these and get caught up in the vicious cycle. This is not where creation is. It's at levels 4 - 7. The one energy source that permeates everything is the I AM. The I AM is nothing but that ONE EMOTION. There's only one emotion and the rest are sensations of that one emotion. The emotions you feel are filters of that one source. They are not reality but expressions of reality. When you feel an emotion that is uncomfortable or "negative", it's an emotion being filtered from who you truly are and is not true of your true identity otherwise it wouldn't feel like that. Something that is not a fundamental truth does not feel good. That one emotion, the I AM is being expressed through you as love, gratitude joy, freedom and bliss, etc. These are elevated emotions that are true to the ALL. You are already all that. It's a state of being. Your personalized physical expression of the All in you is expressed as a result of your assumptions about yourself and the world. Everything else that you see in the 3D world is like the show, the circus, chaotic and out of control - so it seems. These are also expressions of your identity but they are not reality only ideas and expressions of the true reality. Now, we try to create from these ideas of reality by trying to cope, trying to change them and trying to deal with the circumstances of this non-reality. This is very tiring and only creates anxiety, depression anger and resentment. This part of reality is like the weeds and remnants and is not relevant as far as creation goes and what experiences we have. There's no emotional stability in the weeds and circus where things are always changing (emotions, thoughts and feelings). Trying to change our thoughts and feelings is an indication that we believe those are reality and we get caught up in the cycle. Never feeling fulfilled. One has to be at levels 5,6,7, knowing you are already that. Trying to change your feelings which are not permanent doesn't do anything. You have to know you're worthy safe and loved. You will never feel those upper emotions from the level of trying to change things in the weed. It comes from KNOWING who you truly are. The thoughts and feelings keep you trapped, they make you feel unfulfilled and needing to do something about them. If you already know who you truly are and have formed assumptions based from that, even if thoughts, feelings and emotions overtake you, you will not identify with them because you know they are fleeting and changing and does not matter. All that matters is that you stay at the higher levels where true creations take place and stay there. This video explains my post. I'm not writing this post because of what I believe this man is saying. It's from being in the field for a few years, absorbing everything from every angle, from every experience to every insight, to what every guru says, to every notion of no self, to every thing Leo teaches, to every one that says there's no you and that its all illusory to every comment to every thread to every whatever. It all boils down to God Realization and how you use that for earthly manifestation and how to do it properly. There's nothing in the 3D world to change to get your desired reality. We have to stay with the identity of the one true reality and ignore everything else and allow that reality to work through you to bring forth it's expression.

Definetely, that´s the work 😂 I get that, I definetely not a mystic anyway if not i would have gone to an ashram, but is clear the only thing that closes openness is attachment to the limited. And attachment because is based in the belief one will find anything worthwile in the limited. The issue (or blessing) is that i have tasted at this point way too many times the sweetness of the unlimited, at this point is not just about openess, is literally Bliss, is an explosion, a total Win, a Victory, a Victory of Myself over everything It feels so good when it happens, is so clear that nothing in reality is as worthwhile as that, because everything else is limited, is not me, only real me is worthwhile, but you have to see it clearly. Once you see it you want more and more and more, you are not ok with settling with just a bit, you want to walk straight into that, no matter the cost. Because is so good.

Why do you give a fuck about the world with thinking about it, why don't you go with the moment as you will die next second? Than relax and let go, feel the bliss.

Not sure if I would put it in these exact words, but the essence of what you're saying is what's the case. I would say the "I" thought/energy comes with it a feeling of lack - automatically. It cannot help but to feel lack because it's the energy that thinks it's separate. How can something that is a part of the whole but thinks it's separate not feel lack. It's impossible not to. There's no healing there because it's in it's nature to feel lack, incomplete and unfulfilled. It cannot be any other way. This is at the core of humanity's problems and why there are so many problems both individually and collectively. It is very painful, tiring and exhausting to be a human because it is operating from the feeling of separation when there is none. This is why if one wants to keep the human identity it is still important to realize what you truly are at the core and think and act from that place because that's how one can truly enjoy the human experience and integrate the two. Feelings of joy, happiness, bliss etc will be automatic because there will be no feelings of lack and separation which is where all our problems lie and one won't find the need to chase happiness.

I agree, the identity that I am "Always" an addict or Alcoholic is not Empowering IMO, and then they lose their ability to Respond, and become Reactive in nature. Having the ability to Respond, gives back sovereignty to ones self. Just imagine Your hand and arm just moving around at will, up down sideways, on its on will, would that be a problem? So why is that we think controlling our thoughts, our fears and desires is not possible when we can control most all other parts of our body in major ways? There's always other issues underlying the need to use any substance for pain or suffering relief, watch Gabor Mate, he's an expert on this stuff, worked downtown Vancouver drug addiction central for many years...its mostly about childhood, lack of love or attention and issues being push down then suffering comes afterwards... This is why I like the Path of Bliss, Bliss is not the goal of any spiritual path or method, but its the grease/oil of the engine, when Your in a Blissful state regularly, Your not working against yourself, Your intelligence that is within is working for You now, and that will propel You to higher Possibilities and Potentials on the Spiritual Path, its a tragedy isn't it when most all the ppl on the planet are not living up to their Potential, and most are not!

@PurpleTree Because your still green. You don't care about the intricate connections of the world. People dismiss the truth about the world even when it's served on a silver platter. Let others reply, I'm not gonna argue with people that don't even want to watch the info "because if has subtitles". Every time people lose and argument they correct grammar mistakes. The only thing you care about is to looks like a smart ass and defend US propaganda. Go and take DMT and bliss into infinity while the US butchers 2.000.000 Palestinians.

We need 1) Transcripts generated 2) Convert Transcripts into PDF 3) Upload them 10-at-a-time into ChatGPT 4o I am already taking PDFs from Joseph Rodriguez and feeding them in, check it out I'm doing short pdfs, Leo's you might do 1-at-a-time Here is a summary of the foundational models and frameworks for personal transformation based on the latest uploaded files: 1. Decreeing and Manifestation (from You Shall Decree, and it Comes to Pass)(You shall decree, and i…) Decreeing Power: Your conscious awareness creates your reality. By claiming yourself to be or possess something, it is manifested in the physical world. Consciousness of Being: The key to manifestation is remaining aware that you already are or have what you desire. Autosuggestion: "I decree that I AM love, happiness, peace, bliss, and fulfillment, and this is expressed in all areas of my life." 2. The Power of Visualization (from Your Invisible Power)(Your Invisible PowerGen…) Visualization as Creative Power: Deliberately visualizing desires attracts the necessary resources and events to manifest them. Faith and Will: Visualization must be supported by steady faith and willpower to prevent distractions or doubts from interfering. Autosuggestion: "I call upon the power of I AM, visualizing my desires as already fulfilled, knowing that life aligns to reveal them." etc

Striving for “ultimate happiness” is IMO overrated. For me it is precisely the growth/ work of becoming someone that makes me fulfilled. It is also deeper, because even in the shittiest of days, I still feel I am doing the right thing. I tried being content with existence as is for almost a year. Too much resistance. I realized I have a lot of karma to burn through. Good thing is, bliss is always there to be found if you want to come back to it. So don’t feel bad at all for wanting to explore consciousness.

Why can’t I just lay down at the park and stare up at the trees in perfect bliss? Why do I imprison myself with the inherent dissatisfaction of needing to become somebody? Consumerism is slavery in disguise. Indoctrinating minds into believing that they “need” x to be happy. Of course everyone strives to be happy. Hence if you control people’s desires, you control their behavior

@Hojo You love Ad-Hominem. You think you're soo selfless and woke, just like the rest of the hippies I've met. Anyone who doesn't care about what is happening in the world right now, but claims he is searching for truth, is nothing more that just a Green Spiritual Ego. "Peace just for me, bliss just for me, I'm the selfless of then all, and I care only for truth". Your truth is nothing more that spiritual narcissism and feelings more selfless than other. Joy just for you, not helping to reduce suffering in the world. You think you so woke because you write "truth" 5 times in 3 sentences. People who think the teachings of Sartre, Schopenhauer, Jung, Nietzsche and Camus are beneath them, just pump there Ego to feel superior. Sartre, Schopenhauer, Jung, Nietzsche and Camus saved the lives of millions of people from suicide and doubt. This is why people who think they are above them miss the essence completely. People who are tripping on Acid yet the have done jack shit for society are judging people who saved millions of lives and reduce suffering for hundreds of millions. This is just green bs.

@Rafael Thundercat @Rafael Thundercat @Rafael ThundercatThundercat(sry for the 3 ping the forum it's acting weird from a phone). I'm sick and tired of people constantly pushing the idea of "truth." The values that truly matter in a philosopher or thinker, to me, are the advancement of humanity’s culture and the reduction of suffering. What truly counts? 1% of people to bliss out in some non-dual state while the world burns?Or everyone to go in that direction? I've met countless so-called "enlightened" hipsters who know nothing about the real world, yet claim to be selfless while indulging in drugs and hedonistic lifestyles. There minds are a melange of purple, blue and green. Until we achieve world peace, eradicate famine, and cure mental and physical illnesses, we’re fooling ourselves if we think we seek truth. What we really want is happiness and peace, but mostly for ourselves. Even Osho fell into this trap. As Leo said, enlightenment is not a magic pill. Take Alan Watts, for example supposedly enlightened, yet he was an alcoholic who abused his wives. I want happiness and peace for everyone, not just for a privileged few. I've met too many people who preach care and compassion, but in reality, only care about their own political parties or personal agendas, while judging others. This is the hypocrisy of the so called "green" mindset. Every time someone loses an argument, they conveniently bring up "truth" as if it's the ultimate trump card. But what good is "truth" when 2 billion people live in poverty and die from easily curable diseases? "Truth" is a useless word because there is no absolute truth that humans can fully understand, maybe 1% of it, at best. We're too limited to grasp the laws of the universe. Anyone claiming they've found "the absolute truth" is lying, because truth is just a perspective, not a fact. Whether it’s the perspective of Buddha, Jesus, Rumi, or Mohammed, it’s still just that a perspective. I learned this from Carl Jung, though many on this forum would dismiss his work because they claim "it's not true spiritual work." At the yellow stage, you realize that every perspective is just that, a perspective. And each one has validity and value, even that of a homeless person. I can't help but laugh when I see people dismissing some of history's sharpest minds, as though their work isn’t even worth considering. That’s the pinnacle of spiritual megalomania. Some people think they're smarter than Sartre or Schopenhauer just because they've had 50 trips on acid or shrooms. As Sadhguru said, "The biggest disease on the planet is that people want to be special. But being special for them doesn't mean blossoming into their most wonderful form, it means being above somebody else." Even Leo is guilty of this (as are most people). In one of his philosophy episodes, he positioned himself as light-years ahead of anyone in the last 6,000 years of philosophical thought. It's just spiritual megalomania. Though, to his credit, he did address some of this in his video about the psychology of being wrong. This is why outside people think actualized.org is a cult. Because no one challenges Leo's frame. "Looks at what you are left with, men who are nothing but afraid of you. " The Wife of Saddam Hussein confronting him after he killed her brother. We need healthy disagreements in order to grow.