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Giving the amount of information that is available today compared what was available during Jesus's or Buddha's time (pretty much nothing), we have it so much easier too become enlightened. Today if someone has a spiritual/kundalini awakening there are thousands of other similar stories and tips to read and listen to from other people which can support any difficulties. You realise that what your going through is pretty much normal. Imagine if you were Jesus and had a spiritual awakening, you literally have nothing to relate your experience to. It would 10 times as scary as a modern awakening. Not only did Jesus/Buddha get through the Ego death process and reach liberation without support (besides their own intuition), they influenced billions of people afterwards. Hats off to these early awakened folks, most of us should realise that our behaviour and current state of consciousness is absolutely pathetic given the resources and support available.

Are you awakened? Even leo isn't enlightened

Here's how I moved from seeking to knowing. I now have an awakened and enlightened consciousness, though not an enlightened master yet because of work in progress. So, after seeing, listening and reading all I wanted about the most prominent enlightened masters in known history, I observed how they dealt with duality and took notice. At the same time I identified what bothered me the most and that was how to deal with my past (my feelings about my past were eating me alive at the time). That led me to "letting go" so I read and practiced some with various amounts of success. As I was investigating how to make this letting go work, it became clear that the physical and mental worlds are worlds made of beliefs. So I must be holding billions of conflicting beliefs in my Subconscious mind, from how the physical body functions without my input, to physical life scenarios. Now there is a matter of time and focus to deal with them and for sure it's possible to discard groups of beliefs at once, no need to go over them one by one. So how to discard beliefs: you check what bothers you in the moment and decide if that's still true for you. If it's true, you still want to have that attached to you. The other way to see some light is to silence those beliefs (with meditation or breathing techniques) until you get some clarity, enough to be able to drop enough of them at once. Hope this helps.

@ajasatya true and not true. Awakenings are known to happen in the presence of other awakened beings. The right sentence at the right time to the right person can be all it takes.

Yes it is way harder. But still, it is still the same principle. I'm not claming I'm awakened, but since a week ago, the simple curiosity of wondering if this life isn't just a dream, like for real (not intellectually) is starting to make it feel like one.

@CreamCat You can also see the delusion in that trip. He said “I’m scared that this awakened state will leave me, but I don’t see how that’s possible.” Haha. It did leave him. He was wrong. Although maybe it’s because in the awakened state, there is no duality between remaining and leaving, or some insight of that sort. So you can say that he was right in that the experience did not leave him.

Are you awakened? Has your awareness exploded?

Sorry, I didn't saw your post until now ? No I didn't, but I finally truly grasped that no experience whatsoever can be fulfilling. I thought I did earlier, but It was just a belief that I had sealed very deeply into my mind to not get the experienced that I needed to truly grasp it. I'm in a weird place where nothing is satisfying, but at the same time I don't need anything too, without being awakened in any way. It's a dry state, I can't articulate it otherwise, but I'm sure you understand what I mean by that ?

There is ONE Consciousness which is "seeing thru" the eyes out of an enlightened human being - it will have access to knowledge/information which that particular human being had and will play out and live its life according to its root teachings example, Tom Campbell is an awakened computer scientist/physicists and for him, the same structure of existence is a large computer simulation which is running Osho lived out in his own way sadhguru in his own way .. etc etc and giving out knowledge and teachings in his own cultural style - though he does try to be and is quite global in his approach is there a single consciousness mind which is ALL KNOWING of these infinite experiences SIMULTANEOUSLY ? for example, say if Jesus was enlightened, he certainly saw that ALL is ONE and he IS PART of that. HE IS THAT yet. seeing out the limited window from Jesus's life he did not know about the fact that there exists life in the other part of the yet undiscovered north america and say anything about that etc. but that one single consciousness who is the CONCURRENT AND SIMULTANEOUS know-er of all that exists is THE FULL ABSOLUTE ONE CONSCIOUSNESS i believe that the one who awakens does know and realize that it is all ONE and he is one part of the window of this infinite building and the "eyes" which see out of not one, but all infinite windows of experience at the same time is WHAT GOD IS WE ARE BUT A FRAGMENT OF THAT - even as a fully realized awakened being the awakened are having GOD AWARENESS of the experience in which they were born as in form now the fact that if they zone out of the form world and can go deeper and deeper into the absolute might allow for THE FULL INFINITE God level consciousness but the awakened master when in form and living as such like a guru or whatever is much lower than the full god level consciousness i guess thats what the ever never ending deepening of understanding refers to for a fully enlightened master

osho says in one of his videos i watched that he has been absolutely NOTHING for 30 years (at that point in time of the video when it was recorded) he said once he had full ego-death. he had been with the body. always wondered how he can possibly still be attached in the most subtlest of ways but he says that his meditation is absolutely not disturbed - i love how he says i could be talking, walking, swiming or doing whatever else and in the deep background from where he is, there is not even a ripple IN him... explains the lack of blinking if you ask me he just observes/watches all of his experience since he had his full complete awakening is that the state in how all these awakened "gurus" live? sadhguru, adyashanti, ruper spira, mooji etc ? as they all also had complete ego death i thought fragments of ego come/go even at these states but from what osho said, once it is full complete awakening... you never fall back asleep so to speak so meaning that 100% of your experience is then seen as choiceless/ no-free-will happening infront of your "eyes" and you "live" out your life with 0% doership is that so?

Is natural to be like that. Don't worry about it. Altruism and non-competition are just a social/mind invention so the majority would follow sheep patterns. In fact, evolution is constant competition in the polarity system, a balance, a higher meaning at the end of the tunnel. What seems chaos on a level, is harmony at another. Why do i say hate is natural? Same as Enlightenment, is natural, cannot be limited by morality. The majority on the path they follow the "good guy, badge", this is the reason they don't awaken the majority of them and are continuously seeking. And the worst thing about awakening is they think if they have seen the truth about reality, they are awakened or enlightened, lol, hilarious. Best of Luck!

I don't quite understand but it could. I mean I'm by no mean awakened or such, I just share what feels like true in my experience, but as far as I'm concerned I'm open to any kind of experience as long as it is the truth (which I don't seem to have right now).

Random thought: This is not even freeeeeeeking close to what real Awakening/enlightenment feels like But here's a good example It's like if you have ever pranked someone, you are playing a character to trick or prank them, you maybe yourself acting crazy, crying, screaming, dancing or acting goofy or what not but deep down inside you know that you are playing a prank!!! So after the little prank or whatever, u tell em it was a prank and it all seems ok! So yeah, to an enlightened / awakened person, it is like that 100% of the time! And they are able to have clarity of the highest degree. Will explain further, can't write more Abbi TBC

Holy shattumz On weed Understood that say if I am in a room, theb that is literally all my experience! It's like if you still that room It is a single substance made of thought/consiouness!!! It's like if it were to be shown in a computer software that gives you a blank black sreen as default start. That is what you are, that default start. It is fully consiounes and aware of it's self. you are it. And you fill that nothingness with "experience" as an objects to it. So what your experience is LITERALLY 100% represented by what you are thinking including your past and future!!! And which next frame or object of experience gets placed in the next second of your experience??? What you expect to happen! What you are projecting and thinking about the future! That's what happens! I am.in no way awakened I am just Sharing a deep insight! This can be used to change your life around!!! Literally. You are what you eat! Except "eat" fucking means... You are what you THINK OF YOURSELF TO BE! You get what you EXPECT TO HAPPEN Finding it very hard to type at the moment But thank you leo for your what is love video! It effin showed be this beautiful insight Thank you ME I AM THANKING MYSELF! FOR SHOWING THIS CURRENT SOONHEI UNIT TJAT I AM OPERATING FROM HOW TO TURN LIFE AROUND AND LOVE YOUR FUTURE INTO EXISTENCE WILL IT INTO EXISTENCE BY LOVING/WANTING IT TO HAPPEN SO DEEPLY THAT IT DOES This is great insight to how to lead a ego life And manifest what you want . So sure u can live a great life and be at a better place However main thing is loving it. Each and every moment because otherwise you will be drawn to attractions like money, wealth , sex etc only Those cannot be the only things which give you "dopimine" Each and every moment of your life should be and IS CAPABLE OF DOING THAT!!! LOVE IT LOVE YOU ALL!!!

Sexy and beautiful doesn't have a chance if an individual is awakened and masters Tantra. I speak by experience. In my journey, I can attract almost any female, in a relationship or not. This is dangerous from a dormant state paradigm. Don't go into jealousy, find yourself first and after you will be able to mesmerize almost any desired male out there.

Homosexuality is an awakened state projected outside in the same sex individuals. It is a social personality accepted paradigm. One can be born or made, does not matter. After awakening one can see the fine line in this.

The enlightened people are usually not in the media, take in mind that those on the public space are initiated by other unknown gurus. Sadhguru by far is one of the most awakened in the media hype.

Those who have brought themselves to know are awakened, those in the know are also enlightened and those who are awakened, enlightened and free of conscious or repressed beliefs are enlightened masters. As everyone on here apparently still has belief work to do, it doesn't look like we have an enlightened master among us at the moment.

@Outer That was a nice way of saying, that i'm lying or hallucinating. But don't worry. I'm not easily offended.^^ I don't doubt that. What i'm saying is, that there is more than one consciousness. Those entities literally said to me, that there are billions billions billions... of others. Well.. Atman and Brahman are fundamentally the same. I know. I get that. I wouldn't even start to doubt that. The hatchling inside an egg, is convinced of him being alone too. What i'm saying is something different. Since many of you are spiritually awakened, i would like to ask you, to experience it for yourself wether your convictions might be false. Take a really high dose of Marihuana and ask for god. Maybe he will answer. I really hope that, because it seems like, there are only a few who are experiencing what i do. I know, this sound like deluded-maya-i-know-better-than-everyone-else stuff, what i'm talking about, but you should take seriously what i'm saying. You don't know me. So it is fair and reasonable, that you can't take seriously what i'm talking about. You haven't experienced it. I won't judge. I'm just saying, that there is something else you can discover, if you are willing to do that. Leo said, that i'm not fully awakened yet, so everything i say must be false by default. This is the kind of argument, a scientific person would say to a religious person, no?! Before the scientific revolution everyone KNEW that illnesses are cured only when god want it to be cured. Scientist und physicians came up with solutions to cure them and everyone knew, that god doesn't exist. Many of them KNEW there is no god. How else could it be?Now spiritual people hold the same structure of argumentation against scientific people. And it seems like nondualism is becoming the biggest, because most convincing belief-system, which is holding us back. I'm not saying that non-dualism is false. I honestly don't know. What i'm saying is, that experiencing non-dualism isn't all there is. When i take everything into account, what i have experienced, then there is no doubt for me, that there is something beyond what you call the absolut. Something of more value. Stay open-minded and don't judge my state of awareness just by comparing to your own. This could be next-level-maya.

@Hellspeed thank you so much - I will absolutely be careful of this. I don't want to bring crap energy into our lives so I'll make sure we're engaging with awakened women only. Cheers

There are many happy people on this planet who aren't "awakened."

He is awakened, that being the reason, diet has little to do with it.

No worth connecting at a deep level with someone, unless one is awakened. Because of the suffering after, and the Stockholm Syndrome (they call this love in today's society) that is built after a deep connection.

I'm not enlightened, yet I think I've have had some temporary experiences that could be considered enlightened experiences (based on how awakened teachers talk about it). When you say "Enlightenment is realizing the absolute truth, so it's kind of how you see reality." I don't have a full understanding, yet based on my glimpses - it seems like this is a piece of a higher truth. Like one facet of a diamond.

There are very experienced meditators and teachers with decades of practice like Kenneth Folk, Shinzen Young, Culadasa, Michael Taft that are not 100% convinced about the ultimate truth I recommend watching the entire interview with him on Buddha at the Gas Pump https://deconstructingyourself.com/podcast/dy-004-feather-light-paper-thin-guest-shinzen-young Shinzen Young says that this is not something he can say with great confidence LSD study shows decreases in alpha, beta, theta and delta brain waves but what about gamma? A neuroscientist in a video where Martin Ball smokes 5-MeO-DMT said "consistent with a lot of the other research that's been done, gamma tends to increase" so if the fastest brainwave increases, isn't that in line with what materialist paradigm would suggest? General anesthesia There is an argument that if you become sufficiently conscious (master Samatha meditation), you can have some consciousness even in deep dreamless sleep. This is true, however, general anesthesia seems to knock out even those people completely to non-consciousness https://youtu.be/AyFdmhwCpOM?t=23m49s Nirodha samapatti AKA anupādisesa nibbāna. There is some controversy on whether or not the version of nibbāna where there is an experience can be called nibbāna, but what about this sort of classic version of nibbāna where there is no experience at all, no consciousness, no non-dual/being infinite? I mean exactly like a materialist would imagine a death to be like. It requires very good meditation skills, furthermore, it's traditionally said to be only possible for non-returners (anāgāmi) and Buddhas (arahants) so only highly awakened with great meditation skills, we may say very conscious people. All this training to discover a materialist paradigm fitting extinction of all mental activity. Many believe that this is precisely what Buddha meant by Nirvana.