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No, it is actually not possible. Because all thoughts are illusory and false. The mind cannot access Absolute Truth by definition. Any symbolic representation you make of the Truth will never be the Truth itself. So Truth is always hidden by language & beliefs. Science is no better. You can have a perfect description of the Truth in scientific terms but it will still be 100% untrue. So science is not any more accurate than religion when it comes to grasping Absolute Truth. There is no approach possible for Absolute Truth. Which is why so few people every grasp it. The only way is to step outside the mind. But that requires consciousness, which is lacking, which is the whole problem. Hehe, it's so obvious if you actually do self-inquiry and study nonduality. It's just so freaking obvious! There's nothing subjective about it at all. It seems subjective to you because you are operating on the level of the mind: beliefs & thoughts. None of which can get you access to Absolute Truth, which is what God is. What Islam is talking about is the only thing in the world that is NOT subjective. God is the only objective thing there is. That's what makes it God! It's infinite! There is nothing outside it. It covers everything!

@Baul Sorry, that was a typo. It takes you OUT of empiricism when you think of somethings has empirical or rational. That's rationalism. True empiricism is so empirical it has no name or category or opposite. You can also call it phenomenological. No, most modern everyday knowledge is HIGHLY empirical. Which is why it's useful. Science is effective because it is highly empirical and sticks close to the facts. Well... within the confines of the limited scientific paradigm. When it comes to nonduality, we are talking about ABSOLUTE TRUTH, not scientific everyday knowledge. ABSOLUTE means that you get to realize the very structure of existence. Which is infinite and impossible to grasp in any intellectual way whatsoever. You will NEVER grasp it with mind alone. This is a TOTALLY different endeavor than you've ever encountered. So throw all your ideas and beliefs out the window. You need to kill all notions of understanding or intellectualizing. They are all false (despite being useful for everyday life). Start questioning the foundations of everything you believe, including science, space, time, self, world, others, dreams, and life. All of it is NOT what you think. We are talking about RADICAL stuff here. Things like: there is no time, there is no space, there is no death, there is no big bang, there is no evolution, there is no Earth, you are not a human being, and existence and non-existence is an illusion. This is totally mind-breaking stuff. You cannot think it.

It's great that you guys are having mystical experiences, but also notice that nonduality is not just some ecstatic state. It's very ordinary. Look outside your window right now. Notice a tree. Notice that that tree is literally you. What else would it be? Your body isn't perceiving the tree. That is patently false. Your body and the tree are both perceptions. Perceptions do not perceive other perceptions. "You" and the tree are both being perceived by an unlocated infinite empty awareness -- the true you. This awareness is NOT inside you. You are inside it! Investigate this closely. It's super-obvious.

Name: Justin Song Age: 22 Gender: Male Location: Los Angeles, CA Occupation: Currently work part-time delivering disgusting food (Postmates). Personal Development Full Time Marital Status: Single Kids: No Hobbies: Personal Development, Enlightenment, Meditation, Spouting Seeds, Gardening, Nature, and Meeting Like Minded Folks, Plant Medicine, Raw Food Eating, I spent 4 years studying Civil Engineering at a Uni when one day I had a quarter life crisis realizing that this career had nothing to do with my life purpose but of my peers. I paused the program and dove full on into personal development and getting my own issues straight before starting out anything in my life. Had a past of horrible anxiety and panic attacks due to severe acne in highschool. I was assisted out of that hole with the assist of magic mushrooms (as it reminded me to love and accept myself fully and unconditionally), from there I have been some sort of self help addict and I'm quite in Love with Life. Being able to feel more free as I get more into enlightenment and nonduality is a feeling like no other. Fears of death, failure, and disappointing anybody on this planet is not an issue to even consider anymore (as there are no selves and never were). Personal challenges I've overcome: Reducing heavy social anxiety and awkwardness Juicing every morning Healthier diet (almost Raw and Vegetarian) More exercise Hesitating taking this path (Now full on and excited :D) Deeper connection with other individuals with ease To Live up to my values Meditating everyday for an hour To Be more and Do less What I'm working on now: Mastering awareness and more self inquiry Applying to a Life Coaching Program Learn more about business and entrepreneurship To Work Smarter and not Harder

We are like waves on the ocean, looking for the ocean, longing to be part of it? Yes. That’s a great metaphor. You are like a wave in the ocean experiencing itself as separate from the ocean. The wave asks, ‘When and where will I find the ocean? Who can give the ocean to me?’ But the wave was always the ocean, from the very beginning, even in its seeking! It’s the ocean looking for itself. Even within the ocean’s failure to find itself it is still the ocean; every wave is one hundred per cent water. As all the authentic spiritual teachers have been telling us for hundreds and thousands of years, you are what you seek. Although ‘non-duality’ is just a word, what it points to is the possibility that you are not who you think you are. It’s the possibility that what you are is not this seeker, broken or incomplete. What you are is simply this open space of awareness (consciousness, awakeness, Being) in which absolutely everything seems to come and go, and that space is already at rest; it’s already Home. - Jeff Foster http://www.lifewithoutacentre.com/writings/what-is-nonduality/ The full read is in the link above^ Great introduction to anyone new to the word Non-Duality and what it points to. Also Paul Hedderman is great on explaining this topic on his FB page. https://www.facebook.com/tinkerzen?fref=ts Does anyone else know of any good lectures or spokesmen of this subject, as I know this topic can be quite tricky?

Hey guys! Researching for a while I found something an enlightened guy wrote a while ago. Check it out! http://www.lifewithoutacentre.com/writings/the-birth-and-death-of-fundamentalism-in-nonduality-and-advaita-teachings/

I'm on my 6th day of this practice. I'm realizing slowly that continued meditation helps to SEE and FEEL nonduality, but being aware of the presence I am isn't always necessary. It definitely helps me to see more clearly the awareness that I am.(Or to see everything I'm not and pretending to be, or the things I am and pretending I'm not. Or rather I'm not any particular thing, I'm not this, or this, or this, I'm all of them.) I'll continue to meditate for 5+ hours a day but I sense that I won't need to do this for very long. I am creation or presence whether I'm feeling blissful or high on meditation or not. I want to practice integrating truth realization with everyday life. Whether I integrate it or not, whether I forget it, or feel it, I am and have always been pure presence. Like I said, I'll continue to feel this felt oneness with the universe but I don't feel it's necessary anymore. I know I'm not enlightened though. I don't need to make this any bigger than it really is. Anyways, I enjoy meditating so I'll continue. I'll probably look back at this post and realize how I was deceiving myself once I've peaked further (even though no one is home to do the peaking) With that said, I've clearly got unfinished business. On wards to more realization!

@Kyle Realization of nonduality is a result of enlightenment. What happens during enlightenment is that you become your true nature. Pure beingness.. In essence you become One with being and you realize the Oneness of everything that IS. This realization takes time.. it doesn't happen instantaneously. It is a natural consequence of enlightenment. Your goal is not to understand non duality. Your goal is to experience your essence. Non duality understanding comes after.

I don't know how many of you heard this story of D.E Harding, but let me just quote the author (source: http://www.headless.org/on-having-no-head.htm) Harding’s assertion that he has no head must be read in the first-person sense; the man was not claiming to have been literally decapitated. From a first-person point of view, his emphasis on headlessness is a stroke of genius that offers an unusually clear description of what it’s like to glimpse the nonduality of consciousness. "The best day of my life—my rebirthday, so to speak—was when I found I had no head. This is not a literary gambit, a witticism designed to arouse interest at any cost. I mean it in all seriousness: I have no head. It was eighteen years ago, when I was thirty-three, that I made the discovery. Though it certainly came out of the blue, it did so in response to an urgent enquiry; I had for several months been absorbed in the question: what am I? The fact that I happened to be walking in the Himalayas at the time probably had little to do with it; though in that country unusual states of mind are said to come more easily. However that may be, a very still clear day, and a view from the ridge where I stood, over misty blue valleys to the highest mountain range in the world, with Kangchenjunga and Everest unprominent among its snow-peaks, made a setting worthy of the grandest vision. What actually happened was something absurdly simple and unspectacular: I stopped thinking. A peculiar quiet, an odd kind of alert limpness or numbness, came over me. Reason and imagination and all mental chatter died down. For once, words really failed me. Past and future dropped away. I forgot who and what I was, my name, manhood, animalhood, all that could be called mine. It was as if I had been born that instant, brand new, mindless, innocent of all memories. There existed only the Now, that present moment and what was clearly given in it. To look was enough. And what I found was khaki trouserlegs terminating downwards in a pair of brown shoes, khaki sleeves terminating sideways in a pair of pink hands, and a khaki shirtfront terminating upwards in—absolutely nothing whatever! Certainly not in a head. It took me no time at all to notice that this nothing, this hole where a head should have been was no ordinary vacancy, no mere nothing. On the contrary, it was very much occupied. It was a vast emptiness vastly filled, a nothing that found room for everything—room for grass, trees, shadowy distant hills, and far above them snowpeaks like a row of angular clouds riding the blue sky. I had lost a head and gained a world. It was all, quite literally, breathtaking. I seemed to stop breathing altogether, absorbed in the Given. Here it was, this superb scene, brightly shining in the clear air, alone and unsupported, mysteriously suspended in the void, and (and this was the real miracle, the wonder and delight) utterly free of "me", unstained by any observer. Its total presence was my total absence, body and soul. Lighter than air, clearer than glass, altogether released from myself, I was nowhere around. Yet in spite of the magical and uncanny quality of this vision, it was no dream, no esoteric revelation. Quite the reverse: it felt like a sudden waking from the sleep of ordinary life, an end to dreaming. It was self-luminous reality for once swept clean of all obscuring mind. It was the revelation, at long last, of the perfectly obvious. It was a lucid moment in a confused life-history. It was a ceasing to ignore something which (since early childhood at any rate) I had always been too busy or too clever to see. It was naked, uncritical attention to what had all along been staring me in the face - my utter facelessness. In short, it was all perfectly simple and plain and straightforward, beyond argument, thought, and words. There arose no questions, no reference beyond the experience itself, but only peace and a quiet joy, and the sensation of having dropped an intolerable burden." Criticism: “We have here been presented with a charmingly childish and solipsistic view of the human condition. It is something that, at an intellectual level, offends and appalls us: can anyone sincerely entertain such notions without embarrassment? Yet to some primitive level in us it speaks clearly. That is the level at which we cannot accept the notion of our own death.” How many of you think that this is example of sudden realization and enlightenment? Who thinks this is, as pointed out in criticism, childish death-denial? Personally, I think this is brilliant description. I also experienced many times this silent awe: losing feeling of my inner self, but gaining peaceful state. But from strictly materialistic point of view, this is solipsism/escapism/reality denying. On rational and critical level, we can't just say that consciousness/awareness is independent of physical body. In fact, every single conscious experience that happened in my lifetime was actually in awareness. But I can't simply disregard and neglect the consequences of tight relation between awareness and physical body (classically, subjective/objective, two sides of the same coin).

I had similar problem. To me helpful in understanding why I stucked with this "Enlightenment process" was information from book written with big clarity on the subject. In my case, this whole seeking for self-transcendence was mostly playing myself and still being confused in duality. Some experiences that I had was powerful, like being present and free from thoughts not for few moments but for longer periods of time but attachment to this experience is blind alley. Permanent Cessation of thoughts never arrived, the more Enlightenment Nevertheless, I've gained new approach to address this stuff. Few quotes from Sam Harris Book "Waking up. A guide to spirituality without religion." "(...)most of this effort arose from the very illusion of bondage to the self that I was seeking to overcome. The model of this practice is that one must climb the mountain so that freedom can be found at the top. But the self is already an illusion, and that truth can be glimpsed directly, at the mountain’s base or anywhere else along the path. One can then return to this insight, again and again, as one’s sole method of meditation—thereby arriving at the goal in each moment of actual practice.This isn’t merely a matter of choosing to think differently about the significance of mindfulness. It is a difference in what one is able to be mindful of. Dualistic mindfulness— paying attention to the breath, for instance—generally proceeds on the basis of an illusion: One feels that one is a subject, a locus of consciousness inside the head, that can strategically pay attention to the breath or some other object of awareness because of all the good it will do. This is gradualism in action." So when I started practicing meditation it was also gradual approach, "Gradualism is the natural starting point for any search, spiritual or otherwise. Such goal-oriented modes of practice have the virtue of being easily taught, because a person can begin them without having had any fundamental insight into the nature of consciousness or the illusoriness of the self. He need only adopt new patterns of attention, thought, and behavior, and the path will unfold before him." Now, I'm focused on teachings like Vedanta "The whole of Advaita reduces to a series of very simple and testable assertions:Consciousness is the prior condition of every experience; the self or ego is an illusory appearance within it; look closely for what you are calling “I,” and the feeling of being a separate self will disappear; what remains, as a matter of experience, is a field of consciousness—free, undivided, and intrinsically uncontaminated by its ever-changing contents." and Practice of Dzogchen "The practice of Dzogchen requires that one be able to experience the intrinsic selflessness of awareness in every moment (that is, when one is not otherwise distracted by thought)—which is to say that for a Dzogchen meditator, mindfulness must be synonymous with dispelling the illusion of the self. Rather than teach a technique of meditation—such as paying close attention to one’s breathing—a Dzogchen master must precipitate an insight on the basis of which a student can thereafter practice a form of awareness (Tibetan: rigpa) that is unencumbered by subject/object dualism. Of all the Buddhist teachings, those of Dzogchen most closely resemble the teachings of Advaita. The two traditions seek to provoke the same insight into the nonduality of consciousness, but, generally speaking, only Dzogchen makes it absolutely clear that one must practice this insight to the point of stability and that one can do so without succumbing to the dualistic striving that haunts most other paths." to go beyond duality "The practice of recognizing nondual awareness is called trekchod, which means “cutting through” in Tibetan, as in cutting a string cleanly so that both ends fall away. Once one has cut it, there is no doubt that it has been cut. I recommend that you demand the same clarity of your meditation practice."

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