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Sorry but that simply isn’t true. If you experience anything besides utter nullify then you are stuck in the ego defense of projecting some kind of meaning. That is not what happened, it’s a gripping sensation and utter nothingness. It’s not a desirable state yet I knew in my bones it is truth. Anything else is just a mental defense to find meaning. It’s like what Albert Camus said. If you aren’t living with meaninglessness then you aren’t awakened. If you still see beauty and meaning then you see nothing.

Dark Night of the Soul happens every day for the awakened ones.

Nice. It's a great practice and the energy will grow as you continue. The way it works is individual to each person,so don't relate what's happening with one person to your own progression. For me,it just took over. When I say it was driving me hard,it was driving me to seek Truth in a very intense way. This was not even a consideration prior to learning the kriya. I was there to learn it as part of living a healthy lifestyle,but as I continued, the drive to seek a spiritual path gained more intensity. By the fourth month,the intensity was full on. I didn't choose the path,it chose for me,lol. I live in the south east (U.S.) and he doesn't make it to U.S, very often,much less this side of the country. And like I said,this thing was a full on driving force. Even if I wanted to wait and travel,there wasn't much choice in the matter,lol.. I found the closest source I could to learn Kriya and the path to truth was on. To give an idea of how intense the energy was for me, I "awakened" within a year,and it certainly was not expected. The practices since then have been for the permanent abiding of that awakening. I want to reiterate the fact that experience is individual,so don't go expecting the same results or experience as mine. What is right for you,is right for you and will happen in it's own way. I definitely could not have foreseen any of what has happened.. It was just supposed be an all around body/mind practice for health and it turned into something very different,lol. I have no doubt Shoonya would be a great practice to learn. And if he does an initiation with that...well I can only imagine,lol.

A couple of important notes with regard to the "pdf". The document is extensive, and I've only been practicing the main Kriya, labeled FIRST LESSON:Technique of Kriya Pranayama as it was explained by Sri Mukherjee I have not began practicing the quite extensive "preparatory " techniques he discusses along with it. That is of course aside from the Nadi Shodana, Yoni Mudra Kambhaka, and Maha Mudra that is a natural part of doing Kriya. YMK and Maha Mudra are powerful,so it's best to proceed with caution. My practice (if interested) is: 1. 5-10 minute preliminary asana set. Two Maha Mudra's, as part of the set. 2.Nadi Shodana for 8-12 rounds. 3. Main technique of Kriya (described in PDF). Usually 15-20 minutes or so, or until "profound peace and stillness" or "the peace and the bliss originating from the practice of Kriya" manifests. 4. One YMK, after doing the main Kriya. 5.Awareness japa meditation for 25-40 minutes. The effortless awareness meditation is probably,and just imo, the best stand alone meditation technique I've practiced,outside of doing Kriya. After trying various meditation techniques for years,including mindfulness,breath and "object" based "hard" concentration techniques, It has been, from my experience, the most powerful stand alone meditation technique I've done. Kriya works on the "ecstatic energy/kudalini" as well as producing the stillness. The awareness japa meditation continues to carry one from that stillness, deep into different samahdi states, Kevalya samahdi being where awakening or "self realization" happens. Sahaja samahdi, is the permanent abiding of that self realized natural state. It needs to be said,at least in my experience,that the samahdi states don't necessarily happen only during meditation. I awakened, Kevalya samadhi, when I was wide awake. While grocery shopping no less, lol. I never quite understood the bible verse "the lord will come like a thief in the night" until this,then it was perfectly understood. And from talking to many others who have awakened/self realized, it came upon them suddenly as well. This is of course through doing months or even years of doing spiritual work ,and not the use of psychedelics. I've never tried psychedelics,so I'm not sure how effectively abiding, the awakening shift is on the nervous system.

When you arrive to the conclusion that "thoughts" cannot know anything, you will begin to get awakened and there will be no more questions. @Ether

@Faceless Have you awakened? Whats your current state of counsciousness?

Why do you think you havent awakened then? I realize I dont really control how I feel.

I've had life partners like this and I've been one to some. If both are awakened, the sharing is mostly positive and quite blissful. An awakened partner doesn't spend their time pointing out your hang ups directly or your ego would choke on that (you'd want to end the relationship fast, screaming "abuse"). They mostly see the good side and trust you to draw your own conclusions about your shortcomings. Anyway, predictably ended up breaking each other in pieces as one can only get that close to another until it gets under your skin. In my experience, as one develops a deeper understanding of the self liberation path we're on, they at the same time lose their interest in small talk, "fun" but time wasting activities, sharing on different levels of negativity, complaining without taking action or responsibility and so on. The kind of activities unawakened people usually engage in. So, as we filter those out, we also learn to enjoy being alone, because it comes handy as we approach the finish line. Contrary to popular belief, one can only pass through the self inquiry gate alone. Thus learning how to be alone is a requirement. On the path we start with lots of company, books, videos, dead and alive gurus, mentors, teachers, everyone's assisting. They can only help us up to a point. Then we slowly drop the help as we move into the self inquiry phase, which is to be done alone.

Among of all the awakened ones. Both past and modern enlightened masters. Who do you think has reached the highest forms of realization and why do you think so? For me it's Jesus. I don't know Gautama's life that well to assume anything.

@Ether You can feel it in your heart. You feel like something just isn't right when in conversation with a person who has an ego mask on. You'll understand if you spend a few hours with someone who is awakened, and then spend some quality time with someone who is deep in ego. Inauthenticity becomes obvious, but without any reference points it may seem "normal" from your perspective. it creates a barrier between you and the other person, at least in my experience. I hope that all barriers of the ego, to feel that it is not ok to share your emotions non-judgementally with another person for fear of deeper intimacy and what shadows it will reveal in themselves that they have suppressed for years, can one day be broken. For us to be the first ones to meet our emotions like a child in pain who just wants our attention, and then to be able to share those authentically with our loved ones without a mask. This is what I'm meaning. The heart never lies, it is the evidence. It is free from all programming, all cultural beliefs all memories, and childhood traumas. It is our guiding light. For years I have ignored this feeling that arises in me when speaking to other people which makes me think, just how much more I am unaware of, how much more is left to be discovered and realised. We are truly a fish in water, and unconditional love is what makes us realise that imo.

Leo is continuing walking on the circles. He has already awakened but what he calls infinite awakening is just going on the same circles. And he is right you can awaken to infinite truths but all of them are ONE! It is the addictive side of this search for the Truth. He already has truth but he can find new and new ones but at the same time all of them will be the same truths - that's the paradox of reality... He is in the circle going full circle infinitely. And he is aware of that. Only he can get himself outside this infinite loop. It's a choice really. you can word it infinitely differently but the truth is that there is not such thing as existence or truth or any thing. But real trick here is to continue living after this realization and not get stuck in the infinite loop. If I was Leo I would end the search, get wife and kids and life happily.

Humn, if you were awakened, youd knew "narcissist" people dont exist. But yeah, I forgot, you arent. Do you feel resistance on your body? That also means you arent awakened.

@egoless I didnt say I was awakened. Read it, I didnt say I was at peace. Its just that for almost a month now, I feel calm eryday

first step. Now start post awakening sadhana. If you claim that you are awakened and due to that you feel calmness...

My opinion: From what i hear and see, i can say maybe he is "egoic" enlightened. True awakening will bring your voice to singer level, and if you are male, one will be able to go very low with the voice, to a bass stage (similar to a radio speaker human being). Even females have a deeper voice after awakening. Yes folks, singers are not born, are awakened. Anyone has the potential. So no, he is only playing with the 6th chakra in my view. <3

@Prabhaker Oh, thank you. But if he had awakened, why would he still meditate' How do you know so much about Buddha, did you study his life?

Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and to self-actualization. I hope this post can help provide some guidance to someone who's struggling. I also hope to receive some advice or guidance from others who have already had an awakening experience(s). Anyways, I think these were the most significant changes in my life leading up to this awakening experience: - Watched hours of Leo's newbie and advanced videos in a day (still watching regularly) - Watched content from other Spiritual Teachers - Shaved my head bald (used to have hair that I really loved) - Sold my iPhone and downgraded to a flip phone - I threw away my expensive watch (which I loved very much) - Started reading the New Testament (Bible) that I swore I'd never read again By the way, there are amazing insights in the New Testament (AMAZING) and I'd encourage everyone to read through it and really contemplate the teachings of Jesus and others like him. - Doubted every belief I had (especially the ones I held closest) - Accepted that I can't control my thoughts and sort of let them go wherever the would - Accepted that I can't force awakening experiences and enlightenment - Meditated several times per day, every day - Took a leap of faith Now the truth is, "I" didn't really do any of these things, but it sure felt like it, and even does now as I am no longer in that awakened state of consciousness. I think part of the reason these things led to this experience was because they were a huge blow to my sense of self, the ego that I am. I was, and continue to be at war with myself, literally. This is now the most important thing in my life and literally everything else is secondary. Everything I thought I knew about myself has changed completely and it is terrifying and beautiful at the same time. Thank you for reading and for being a part of this great community. Thank you Leo for your insightful content and dedication.

Just because you give up Ego doesn't mean your life has to become like some kind of monk. You will still do lots of things after you become awakened. You just won't be striving after them for egoic reasons. You'll be much more grounded and calm with life. You won't be neurotic about things. You're not gonna fall off the face of the earth after awakening.

Warning! Yoga comes natural to the Awakened ones, no need to learn it. Who does yoga and is not awakened has the possibility to block themselves. <3

You could astral project into Ajna and Akasha and see it for yourself as happened in real-time feeling space/time. No need of reading or learning if you awakened. <3

Only the Awakened Being can only know Love. Other sleepy heads have concepts of love. <3

There is not wrong or good in killing a mosquito or any biological creature. A rock in reality has the same value as human being. One can see this after being awake. There are only consequences in the un-awakened state or in the society we are living. <3

@Prabhaker Yeah, thanks But what about after he had awakened?

"Man exists as if in sleep. Man is alseep. Whatever is known as waking is also sleep. Initiation (Gurus) means to be in intimate contact with one who is awakened. Unless you are in intimate contact with one who is awakened it is impossible to come out your sleep, because the mind is even capable of dreaming that it is awake. The mind can dream that now there is no more sleep. By initiation is meant that you have surrendered to someone who is awakened. You say "I do not understand, I cannot understand. I am part of the world that is mad and asleep. I am dreaming all the time." This feeling can come even from a sleepy person, because the sleep is not always deep. It wavers, becoming very deep at times and then coming up and becoming very shallow. Just like ordinary sleep is a fluctuation of so many levels, so many planes, the metaphysical sleep that I am talking about also fluctuates. Sometimes you are just on the border line, very near to Buddha; then you can understand something of what Buddha is talking about, what he is saying. It will never be exactly what was said, but at least you have had a glimpse of the truth. On part of the initiated, initiation is a total letting go: a complete trust, a complete surrender. It can be never partial . If you surrender partially, you are not surrendering, you are deceiving yourself. There can be no partial surrender, because in partial surrender you are withholding something, and that withholding may push you again into deep sleep. That non surrendering part will prove fatal; any moment you may again be in deep sleep" - OSHO - The Art of Esctacy We have surrendered to a Materialist Paradigm and our guru is the collective society and you partially surrendered to Leo or other teachers when you realized the deep sleep we are in. Leo does a great job of laying down the foundations of epistemic patterns of the mind now it is your job not to cling to ideologies and become aware of how you're alone in this Universe.

Yes, I havent awakened but i do feel crazy... calm.