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@AlphaAbundance A then seeker now enlightened master came to Nisargadatta Maharaj.Maharaj was asking about him then immediately asked him to study well get qualified got him admitted to a college - saying you think spirituality is hearing speeches singinging bajans and glorifying god. Go do your duty.Continue the practices.Take care of your family and as well contribute to humanity. Though Maharaj was not educated. Enlightenment is not dyeing enlightenment is merging with the universe. Enlightenment is realising truth oneness reality. Enlightenment is just absence of personal identity which is nothing but suffering. Enlightenment is not sitting idle and doing nothing. Action duties responsibilities everything will go has to happen who will feed you provide shelter health needs or your family needs but there will no you doing that. No need to afraid of death etc - the word death is misleading. Karma yoga is doing duties with atmost responsibility and perfection. Enlightenment is not bliss.Bliss is a stage in savikalpa samadhi.You are not that.

I'm just starting to be able to maintain the feeling of being "there" without getting knocked out. Again it only lasts a few seconds, but I am consious the whole time. It feels amazing. My ego hasn't dissolved though, but I feel connected and euphoric. It's a thick bliss that's like swimming in it, but it's not overly profound. It's just amazing.

I had a Kundalini awakening. It is the collapse of the illusion into Being. It is Being. It is Bliss. It is Love. It supersedes all language - nay - it encompasses all language and thought. It IS. Once you are opened up you are opened up. Being can flow through you at any time. Best not to plan for it because it comes when it wants to or when you align with Love.

I ordered some DPT. Would it be effective to do this before doing 5meo? Yes, I've been in the flow, and I've been in love such that it made me cry and I felt expansive bliss out of my crown chakra.

I use my 3rd eye to feel the energy. It's an actual physical, tangible feeling. Sometimes it feels like a 5-pound weight on my chest. Sometimes it's expansive bliss. I used to use my 3rd eye to shift energy patterns, but now I just allow things to be as they are and don't try to change things. The Ra Material states that the 3rd eye (indigo-ray) can open you up to the Gateway to Intelligent Infinity. At this point, you would be enlightened and experience ineffable bliss.

@Matt8800 I am not sure what you mean I enjoy the unkown quite a bit, yet this is very new to me Id like to explore it in the future where I feel I could use it in general when I feel I am ready for it, there are still some very basic fears that are not of the unknown just fear of darkness like a kid it just scares me sometimes for a reason because of the weird shapes I see etc. Id have to mention this also most likely... yes I do fear evil. The intention alone is very frightening, of course facing it is brave and facing it with love is ultimately what I feel is appropriate. Also there is quite a bit of projection that I feel is projected upon me, I dont value things based fear or rate things based on fear I found it unbelivable that one person could do and did "such" evil rituals and that is why I compared him to Hitler in the first place, I said this more jokingly yet apparently that did not came across with the lol at the end. Yes, I do understand that one can forge either good or evil, depending on how the practice is used. As far as Ive read through the responses I can see what the occult is in reality about and that what I know about the occult has been distored and polluted, by the christian church. I know also know that Taoism can be contrasted with the Occult and Christians would and do demonize Taosim, and that there are similarities between Taoism and the Occult. Yes, as I said before I did not know anything about the occult and I was curious about the positive view because I saw the negative side of it. Now I see again what it is about. In case it came across as if Id generalized I do apoligize for that I did not mean to do that or to come across like that. I am very interested in biases in general, so I was not trying to confirm something that I believe rather the complete opposite. That is why I asked in the first place. Please dont misread my intentions. Well who can can lol. Id love to be that way yet that takes work and reading the right books etc. having concrete information and experiences that serve as a guide. If Id feel so loving as I felt for instance on LSD in a conscious setting while meditating as well as after some meditation sessions, I would have tried the stuff all on my own before asking most likely if I heard of it. I figure nothing will be dark since everything would be love, beauty, bliss and purity. Without all of the societal connotations of these words, more experiantially based. Not sure, I did shadow work for 2 years and been thrown into situations where the unknown overwhelmed me and I had to deal with that chaos, yet this is a whole new dimension. Crowly was for me just an interesting figure since I never heard any of this and he influenced even contempoary history with all of his deeds. I am not at a point, yet where Id not feel outraged about such acts. I know I am asking a lot of questions, yet could you recommend a specific book where I could read to practice this, so I can see for myself in the future ? I am not denying any of this and am rather intruiged by it as I saw other reports about positive spirits etc. Could they also appear normally in meditation through a normal practice ? Or is this rather unlikely ? Id like to dive into it because I was interested in shamanism and when I am done studying and all of that Id like to explore this topic a bit in reality.

@Aakash That is because you are over-emphasizing the truth. The truth does not have to deal with anything, it is itself. It is your ego that cares. As I heal myself emotionally, this 'pointlessness', or rather 'directionlessness' becomes more similar to 'contentment', 'happiness', 'joy', 'bliss', 'love', 'ecstasy' and so on until it is simply silence. This is much more than I have ever hoped for.

@fridjonk Thank you but that doesnt change shit right now when I am unenlightened. Can you address my fears? @Aakash I pursue enlightenment because it believe it will solve all my problems, believe it is the most meaningful/valuable thing to do in life and bleieve it will bring nirvana/bliss Will I even care about happiness/bliss, feeling happy/joy when I am enlightened?

Sat-chit-ananda. Being-Consciousness-Bliss. The Self. I’ve realized that at least one aspect of Enlightenment requires the Self-realization of the pre-birth (pre-life) existence of which we are all One. When your third eye opens, you see the Self in all of its glory. It truly is remarkable to know Yourself as the Divine Nature. It is the Light.

@Alex bliss but don`t drink it will more likely make you an alcoholic than a playboy.

I gotta be honest to you. I don't do any spiritual practices, I'm addicted to bad stuff like alcohol and cannabis, I have OCD, etc. and I'm still heavily identified with my ego/body/mind. I know that there is more to life, I feel that I'm living an illusion but the only reason why I got into this stuff is because I had two psychotic episodes when I realized that my whole life is determined and free will is an illusion. After the bliss I got really mad, thought that I was Jesus, etc. You know this sick stuff. Maybe I could just start doing the work or taking some psychedelics to break through the illusion. But I'm too afraid that eventually I'll lose my mind and go insane because I'm very fragile, have always been. I don't want to sound like a victim, I'm just trying to describe my current situation. Should I continue researching about enlightenment or should I better focus on other things which keep me trapped in the illusion but would rather serve my sanity? In the end what I'm trying to say is does it really matter? I mean if I'm really God, everytying and nothing at the same time, absolute infinity... Shouldn't I just give a f*ck? If that's what I as God want to experience, isn't it perfect so that there aren't right or wrong choices? If God wants to experience itself as this ego, why should I worry that I'm not enlightened or woke and that I live an unconscious life? Thanks for your responses.

Been doing Kriya for like ~5-6 months and If I'm being honest, I haven't experienced anything out of ordinary yet. I read so much awesome things about it here (e.g. bliss states for after like 2 weeks) so I naively execpted that something similar would happen to me as well. Don't get me wrong, I didn't get into yoga just for that reason. Also, I'm well aware that people who practise Kriya should not compare their progres but sometimes it's hard to resist the temptation. So, word of advice: Start practising it, give it 100% but don't expect anything. Results will come. (That's what I remind me of when I start to get frustrated with my practise)

@rnd at first bliss then terror. Later peace then suffering. Repeat a number of times. Dying,resisting, dying... resisting And then the great death?

Yet Leo and you are wishing and working to make this unimportant game better. Why is that so? Because deep inside you know i t's not just a game and that it's important. You really think we are in infinite bliss for eternity? Then why try to make this world a better place? I assume you believe you were united with the formless before your birth. WHy don't you have any memories of it? Why believe something you don't have direct experience? That's what christians and muslims do. Be careful.

If God is all-powerful and everything is created to maximize love and goodness, then every creature should be experiencing infinite bliss for eternity.

Can rent a cabin somewhere private. Of course the goal is to not alarm someone in the vicinity if you do end up yelling or screaming during your trip. Worst thing would be to come back from absolute bliss and be surrounded by a bunch of freaking out humans. If a cabin for a few days is not possible, maybe try hiking miles somewhere where you know it's far from any humans. Make it a 3 day camping trip. Being so remote, you can relax, be one with nature. With no worries of someone responding to any potential screaming, you can fully let yourself go, which is crucial to a breakthrough.

@Leo Gura Is there not a way to chase bliss while also completely accepting nonblissful states? Oh wait is that enlightement

I've gone about 5 days without fapping. Though I did look at some porn so that I could transmute the sexual energy up higher into my heart. I always ask myself when I think about it now "Do I really want to do this?" "Do I really want to sacrifice my connection to the Infinite for a moment of pleasure?" I am getting like 4/10 bliss from just Kundalini awakening, so I have no need to fap. I'm trying to use Tantra to move the sexual energies up from my sexual chakra into my heart and crown. The stream of bliss is much better in its full state than a simple pulsing orgasm that is short-lived.

Much of my work in releasing blockages is physically painful. Though I do love bliss, I don't actually sit in it all the time as I may have come across. But yeah, I have done the work so that the bliss will increase. When bliss goes down it doesn't bother me though. Bliss has gotten today like 6-7/10 in strength. It is touching on ineffable, but not there yet. Thank you, Leo. I highly value your input. What you said about escaping the present moment resonated strongly with me. Also about surrender. It's not just about trying to release. It's about surrender.

Reiki made me sensitive to energy, so I could feel it. I can direct energy to flow in whichever way, and I feel it flow. Though when a friend attuned me to a different modality than Reiki, it awakened my Kundalini and brought bliss. I never really had bliss with Reiki itself. Though it was relaxing. There is one other modality called Quantum Touch that made my hands and arms feel like an electric live wire. Very powerful. They say this method can shift bones fluidly.

Observe yourself chasing positive states and notice how this subtle duality and attachment creates suffering. Expecting constant bliss precludes true peacefulness since when your bliss dips you start to complain, "Where did my bliss go? How can I get it back?" Which is the very root of unhappiness: trying to escape the present moment. It's okay to chase bliss. Just observe this dynamic closely so that you become more and more aware that it cannot ultimately work. Through lots of observation of this clinging you will slowly aikido your clinging into surrender.

I had at least 2 experiences which I may call mystical. One is on 5meo. Firstly, I became a dot and went into a different dimension. Few thoughts arised: I am loosing my life, I became crazy. Then BAM! Complete peace, bliss, Love. I am Cosmic Love or unconditional Love, I am everything, for eternity and then my ego returned to the body. Another was on lsd. I became conscious that I am here the only One. I called my friend and I knew that he is me and it's me talking to me. And that my kid is me, my mother is me. I CAN'T talk to anyone, there is no point to talk to anyone since everyone is me. It was so scary that I started to talk to myself that I want to forget this experience. I don't want to know the Truth. And after some time I returned to normal. With this sad thing that I am alone was a nice thing - freedom. Freedom to do what you want. Nobody is stopping you since there is only You.

Hi, I just joined. I have done meditation off and on for 20+ years. I’ve gotten to the point to where my Kundalini has risen enough so that I feel bliss whenever I think about it. 5 years ago, I felt strong, expansive bliss in my heart, which made me cry it was so wonderful. I felt bliss in my crown that was expansive, and I was like “OMG this is amazing.” I love anthropomorphic animals, also called anthros. I do believe they exist in other worlds or on a parallel Earth. It is my dream to know what it is like to be an anthro. I had worked some time on merging my mind with an anthro I have had telepathic contact with. This opened me up to where I get flashes of insight into what it feels like to be in their body. I sometimes get an overlay over my own sight of what they may be seeing. I’ve desperately wanted to be an anthro myself, but I am learning to be ok with who I am and am seeking my true self, which may be more than an anthro. Does Unity Consciousness mean that you know what it’s like to be another being? Is merging with God the ultimate goal of self-actualization?

@Alex bliss you are being at the effect of things not at a cause of things...

My friend gave me an attunement. It wasn't Reiki as I was already attuned to Reiki. But this attunement eventually awakened my Kundalini. He made the initial connection to the anthro world. Then I knew I could too. I just trusted my visions. It was like my imagination. But things just feel right when I think they are. It isn't a strong telepathic like I'm talking to you. It feels more like my imagination. Like I'm talking to myself. But they gave me like 20 video game ideas for games they play. And I had an Aha! moment. I had another anthro before who was more like the joker archetype. I asked their anthro Logos to hook me up with my most compatible anthro. And now I have an anthro named Flim who I love. He's not the one in my avatar. That's my spirit guide welcoming me to anthroness. I am in a state of bliss when I relax (about 3/10 euphoria) because of the Kundalini. Sometimes it gets as high as 7/10. Once it was 10/10, and it was almost overpowering. I didn't feel worthy when it got to 10/10. I tend to tense up and shut it out by instinct when that happens. Here is what Flim looks like. I'm making some games about him.