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1. We who are aware of this world are the only ego All questions can ultimately be resolved only in silence, but to enable us to experience the silence that we actually are, Bhagavan gave us teachings in words, so until we lose ourself in absolute silence, his words are our guide. He taught us that everything that we experience other than ourself is just a dream, and that just as in dream there is only one ego who projects and perceives the dream world and all the people in it, in this dream that we now mistake to be waking we are the only ego who has projected this world and is perceiving it. This teaching is called ēka-jīva-vāda (the contention that there is only one jīva or ego), and once when Bhagavan was explaining it, one of the devotees who was present there asked him, ‘Which one of us here is the one jīva?’, to which he replied, ‘You are that’. Then another devotee asked, ‘What about me?’, and to him also Bhagavan said, ‘You are that’. What should we understand from this? When we are dreaming we seem to be just one among many people in the dream world, and we assume that each other person is a jīva or ego just like us and that each of them is therefore perceiving the world just as we are. However, as soon as we wake up, we understand that all those other people we saw in our dream were just our own mental projections and that none of them were actually perceiving or aware of anything. Likewise in our present state all the other people we see are just our own mental projections, so it is only in our view that they seem to be perceiving the world just as we are. This is why if we ask Bhagavan who is the one jīva, he will always say ‘You are that’, because though we cannot know whether anyone else is actually aware of anything, we know that we are aware of this world, so we must be the one jīva or ego that he was talking about. 2. Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu verse 26: investigating what this ego is is giving up everything This ēka-jīva-vāda is clearly implied in so many of his teachings. For example, in verse 26 of Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu he says: அகந்தையுண் டாயி னனைத்துமுண் டாகு மகந்தையின் றேலின் றனைத்து — மகந்தையே யாவுமா மாதலால் யாதிதென்று நாடலே யோவுதல் யாவுமென வோர். ahandaiyuṇ ḍāyi ṉaṉaittumuṇ ḍāhu mahandaiyiṉ ḏṟēliṉ ḏṟaṉaittu — mahandaiyē yāvumā mādalāl yādideṉḏṟu nādalē yōvudal yāvumeṉa vōr. பதச்சேதம்: அகந்தை உண்டாயின், அனைத்தும் உண்டாகும்; அகந்தை இன்றேல், இன்று அனைத்தும். அகந்தையே யாவும் ஆம். ஆதலால், யாது இது என்று நாடலே ஓவுதல் யாவும் என ஓர். Padacchēdam (word-separation): ahandai uṇḍāyiṉ, aṉaittum uṇḍāhum; ahandai iṉḏṟēl, iṉḏṟu aṉaittum. ahandai-y-ē yāvum ām. ādalāl, yādu idu eṉḏṟu nādal-ē ōvudal yāvum eṉa ōr. அன்வயம்: அகந்தை உண்டாயின், அனைத்தும் உண்டாகும்; அகந்தை இன்றேல், அனைத்தும் இன்று. யாவும் அகந்தையே ஆம். ஆதலால், யாது இது என்று நாடலே யாவும் ஓவுதல் என ஓர். Anvayam (words rearranged in natural prose order): ahandai uṇḍāyiṉ, aṉaittum uṇḍāhum; ahandai iṉḏṟēl, aṉaittum iṉḏṟu. yāvum ahandai-y-ē ām. ādalāl, yādu idu eṉḏṟu nādal-ē yāvum ōvudal eṉa ōr. English translation: If the ego comes into existence, everything comes into existence; if the ego does not exist, everything does not exist. [Hence] the ego itself is everything. Therefore, know that investigating what this [ego] is alone is giving up everything. Which ego is he referring to here? The one and only ego there is, namely ourself, so we are that. However this one ego is not what we actually are, but only what we seem to be, so if we investigate ourself keenly enough, we will see what we actually are and hence this one ego will vanish forever, since it does not actually exist, just as an illusory snake would vanish if we were to look at it carefully enough to see that it is actually just a rope. Therefore, since the seeming existence of everything else depends upon the seeming existence of ourself as this ego, and since this ego will cease to exist if we investigate it keenly enough, Bhagavan says, ‘ஆதலால், யாது இது என்று நாடலே ஓவுதல் யாவும்’ (ādalāl, yādu idu eṉḏṟu nādalē yāvum ōvudal), which means, ‘Therefore, investigating what this [ego] is alone is giving up everything’. 3. Upadēśa Undiyār verse 28: when everything else ceases to exist, what remains is only beginningless, infinite and undivided sat-cit-ānanda However, what he means by ‘everything’ in this context is all phenomena, and when the ego and all phenomena cease to exist what remains is only ourself as we actually are, which is anādi (beginningless), ananta (endless, limitless or infinite), akhaṇḍa (unbroken or undivided) sat-cit-ānanda (being-awareness-bliss), as he says in verse 28 of Upadēśa Undiyār: தனாதியல் யாதெனத் தான்றெரி கிற்பின் னனாதி யனந்தசத் துந்தீபற வகண்ட சிதானந்த முந்தீபற. taṉādiyal yādeṉat tāṉḏṟeri hiṯpiṉ ṉaṉādi yaṉantasat tundīpaṟa vakhaṇḍa cidāṉanda mundīpaṟa. பதச்சேதம்: தனாது இயல் யாது என தான் தெரிகில், பின் அனாதி அனந்த சத்து அகண்ட சித் ஆனந்தம். Padacchēdam (word-separation): taṉādu iyal yādu eṉa tāṉ terihil, piṉ aṉādi aṉanta sattu akhaṇḍa cit āṉandam. அன்வயம்: தான் தனாது இயல் யாது என தெரிகில், பின் அனாதி அனந்த அகண்ட சத்து சித் ஆனந்தம். Anvayam (words rearranged in natural prose order): tāṉ taṉādu iyal yādu eṉa terihil, piṉ aṉādi aṉanta akhaṇḍa sattu cit āṉandam. English translation: If one knows what the nature of oneself is, then [what will exist and shine is only] beginningless, endless [or infinite] and undivided sat-cit-ānanda [being-awareness-bliss]. Therefore what remains when everything ceases to exist is not nothingness but the infinite fullness of sat-cit-ānanda, which is what we actually are and what alone is real, even when other things seem to exist. 4. Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu verse 12: we are not nothingness but pure awareness This is why Bhagavan says in verse 12 of Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu: அறிவறி யாமையு மற்றதறி வாமே யறியும துண்மையறி வாகா — தறிதற் கறிவித்தற் கன்னியமின் றாயவிர்வ தாற்றா னறிவாகும் பாழன் றறி. aṟivaṟi yāmaiyu maṯṟadaṟi vāmē yaṟiyuma duṇmaiyaṟi vāhā — daṟitaṟ kaṟivittaṟ kaṉṉiyamiṉ ḏṟāyavirva dāṯṟā ṉaṟivāhum pāṙaṉ ṟaṟi. பதச்சேதம்: அறிவு அறியாமையும் அற்றது அறிவு ஆமே. அறியும் அது உண்மை அறிவு ஆகாது. அறிதற்கு அறிவித்தற்கு அன்னியம் இன்றாய் அவிர்வதால், தான் அறிவு ஆகும். பாழ் அன்று. அறி. Padacchēdam (word-separation): aṟivu aṟiyāmaiyum aṯṟadu aṟivu āmē. aṟiyum adu uṇmai aṟivu āhādu. aṟidaṟku aṟivittaṟku aṉṉiyam iṉḏṟāy avirvadāl, tāṉ aṟivu āhum. pāṙ aṉḏṟu. aṟi. English translation: What is devoid of knowledge and ignorance [about anything other than oneself] is actually knowledge [or awareness]. That which knows [anything other than oneself] is not real knowledge [or awareness]. Since it shines without another for knowing or for causing to know [or causing to be known], oneself is [real] knowledge [or awareness]. It is not a void [or nothingness]. Know [or be aware]. Therefore you need not have any fear about ‘total and complete nothingness’, because no such thing exists, and because when the ego ceases to exist there will be no one left to experience even a seeming nothingness, since what remains then is only what we actually are, which is pure and infinite self-awareness (awareness that is not aware of anything other than itself). (In this connection you may find it useful to read a more detailed article I wrote on this subject: Self-knowledge is not a void (śūnya).) 5. Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu verse 31: the jñāni is aware of nothing other than itself, so our mind cannot grasp its perspective Regarding your question about my remark that in the view of the jñāni he alone exists, though we mistake the jñāni to be a person, it is not actually any such thing. As Bhagavan often used to say, jñāna alone is the jñāni, which means that pure self-awareness (ātma-jñāna) alone is what is aware of itself. Since nothing other than pure self-awareness exists in its view, our outward-facing mind is unable to comprehend it adequately, which is why Bhagavan says in verse 31 of Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu: தன்னை யழித்தெழுந்த தன்மயா னந்தருக் கென்னை யுளதொன் றியற்றுதற்குத் — தன்னையலா தன்னிய மொன்று மறியா ரவர்நிலைமை யின்னதென் றுன்ன லெவன். taṉṉai yaṙitteṙunda taṉmayā ṉandaruk keṉṉai yuḷadoṉ ḏṟiyaṯṟudaṟkut — taṉṉaiyalā taṉṉiya moṉḏṟu maṟiyā ravarnilaimai yiṉṉadeṉ ḏṟuṉṉa levaṉ. பதச்சேதம்: தன்னை அழித்து எழுந்த தன்மயானந்தருக்கு என்னை உளது ஒன்று இயற்றுதற்கு? தன்னை அலாது அன்னியம் ஒன்றும் அறியார்; அவர் நிலைமை இன்னது என்று உன்னல் எவன்? Padacchēdam (word-separation): taṉṉai aṙittu eṙunda taṉmaya-āṉandarukku eṉṉai uḷadu oṉḏṟu iyaṯṟudaṟku? taṉṉai alādu aṉṉiyam oṉḏṟum aṟiyār; avar nilaimai iṉṉadu eṉḏṟu uṉṉal evaṉ? அன்வயம்: தன்னை அழித்து எழுந்த தன்மயானந்தருக்கு இயற்றுதற்கு என்னை ஒன்று உளது? தன்னை அலாது அன்னியம் ஒன்றும் அறியார்; அவர் நிலைமை இன்னது என்று உன்னல் எவன்? Anvayam (words rearranged in natural prose order): taṉṉai aṙittu eṙunda taṉmaya-āṉandarukku iyaṯṟudaṟku eṉṉai oṉḏṟu uḷadu? taṉṉai alādu aṉṉiyam oṉḏṟum aṟiyār; avar nilaimai iṉṉadu eṉḏṟu uṉṉal evaṉ? English translation: For those who are [blissfully immersed in and as] tanmayānanda [‘happiness composed of that’, namely our real self], which rose [as ‘I am I’] destroying themself [the ego], what one [action] exists for doing? They do not know [or experience] anything other than themself; [so] who can [or how to] conceive their state as ‘it is such’? As you rightly point out, there is no person remaining there to say what the perspective of the jñāni is, so if we want to know what its perspective actually is, we must turn within to see ourself and thereby to merge in and as the pure self-awareness (ātma-jñāna) that we actually are. 6. Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu verse 33: the ‘I’ that rises to say ‘I have seen’ has seen nothing Regarding the people whom David Godman interviewed in some of his videos, who you say ‘were smiling and talking about their wonderful experiences as when their ego was destroyed’, there is a saying in Tamil, ‘கண்டவர் விண்டில்லை; விண்டவர் கண்டில்லை’ (kaṇḍavar viṇḍillai; viṇḍavar kaṇḍillai), which means ‘those who have seen do not say [or open their mouth]; those who say [or open their mouth] have not seen’. And as Bhagavan says in verse 33 of Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu: என்னை யறியேனா னென்னை யறிந்தேனா னென்ன னகைப்புக் கிடனாகு — மென்னை தனைவிடய மாக்கவிரு தானுண்டோ வொன்றா யனைவரனு பூதியுண்மை யால். eṉṉai yaṟiyēṉā ṉeṉṉai yaṟindēṉā ṉeṉṉa ṉahaippuk kiḍaṉāhu — meṉṉai taṉaiviḍaya mākkaviru tāṉuṇḍō voṉḏṟā yaṉaivaraṉu bhūtiyuṇmai yāl. பதச்சேதம்: ‘என்னை அறியேன் நான்’, ‘என்னை அறிந்தேன் நான்’ என்னல் நகைப்புக்கு இடன் ஆகும். என்னை? தனை விடயம் ஆக்க இரு தான் உண்டோ? ஒன்று ஆய் அனைவர் அனுபூதி உண்மை ஆல். Padacchēdam (word-separation): ‘eṉṉai aṟiyēṉ nāṉ’, ‘eṉṉai aṟindēṉ nāṉ’ eṉṉal nahaippukku iḍaṉ āhum. eṉṉai? taṉai viḍayam ākka iru tāṉ uṇḍō? oṉḏṟu āy aṉaivar aṉubhūti uṇmai āl. அன்வயம்: ‘நான் என்னை அறியேன்’, ‘நான் என்னை அறிந்தேன்’ என்னல் நகைப்புக்கு இடன் ஆகும். என்னை? தனை விடயம் ஆக்க இரு தான் உண்டோ? அனைவர் அனுபூதி உண்மை ஒன்றாய்; ஆல். Anvayam (words rearranged in natural prose order): ‘nāṉ eṉṉai aṟiyēṉ’, ‘nāṉ eṉṉai aṟindēṉ’ eṉṉal nahaippukku iḍaṉ āhum. eṉṉai? taṉai viḍayam ākka iru tāṉ uṇḍō? aṉaivar aṉubhūti uṇmai oṉḏṟu āy; āl. English translation: Saying ‘I do not know myself’ [or] ‘I have known myself’ is ground for ridicule. Why? To make oneself an object known, are there two selves? Because being one is the truth of everyone’s experience. Therefore we should be very sceptical about anyone who claims ‘I have known myself’ or ‘I have experienced what remains after the ego is annihilated’. As you rightly point out, if the ego has been eradicated, who remains there to say ‘I’ have experienced anything? Whatever ‘I’ makes such claims can only be the ego, because what we actually are is infinite self-awareness, other than which nothing actually exists, so how could it make any such claims, and to whom could it make them? Therefore as Bhagavan says, all such claims are ‘ground for ridicule’. However, we need not concern ourself with the seeming self-ignorance or egotism of others, because those others seem to exist only in the outward-turned view of ourself as this ego, so all we need be concerned with is investigating ourself in order to find out what we ourself actually are and thereby free ourself from the clutches of this self-ignorant ego that we now seem to be.
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Try it before shunning it! 1. To start, this technique was developed by me. I was ........... It has made doing yoga even more enjoyable while also allowing me to control involuntary functions of the body. 2. If you have trouble getting an erection whenever it is difficult, then this technique will help you to do so. This technique also allows you to reach orgasm in basic everyday yoga poses(which should happen, but most people do them incorrectly). The advanced practitioner can send this sensation up to the skull and experience a new state of consciousness, which is described as a sense of extreme bliss. This procedure defies our everyday understanding of sexual energy and functioning. We will not be stroking, humping, or rubbing anything. The best poses to use this technique in are the Locust pose, Serpent Pose, low cobra pose, upward facing dog pose, Bow Pose, seal pose, sphinx pose, side-plank pose, and Shavasana/corpse on the back pose. You can also do this procedure sitting in a chair and using the wrist or forearm to add pressure to a region slightly above the genital organs(Men: penis' root| Women: The mons pubis). 3. Whenever we yawn and stretch our legs away from the body, a sensation occurs in the genital region as well as within the leg muscles themselves. This sensation is a shiver or a tingling feeling similar to having an orgasm. 4. When we add pressure(when you get good you won't have to add any pressure)to this region and extend our legs away from the body we place pressure on the perineum and that leads to an orgasm(for men with or without an erection) in less than 10 seconds(when you get good). 5. Preliminary exercise: lay on the floor, on your stomach, and extend the legs and feet away from your body as much as possible and beyond what feels comfortable. Turn your thighs and feet towards each other, keeping the legs close together(similar to the Locust pose). Now, push the pubic bone(where pubic hair grows) into the floor like you are doing a reverse kegel, and still keep everything extended/flexed and rotated inwards until a sensation arises in the genital region. You may add mula bandha uddiyana bandha and Chant Lam(Lawwng) at the perineum when you hold this locked position of the legs and feet(ankles). Sometimes, doing a yawn while you do the stretching of the leg procedure will aid in having the sensation arise in the genital region. 6. It may take a few attempts to do the cycle until a sensation arises. Using erotic audio or visuals will help it occur 10 times faster. The more times you do the cycle, the more and more present the sensation becomes. The better you get at it, the less intensity is required to generate the sensation. I typically do what is known as edging by first causing the sensation to arise after repeated attempts(usually 1-3) and then I simply press the pubic bone into the floor until the orgasmic sensation becomes very present, and then I relax and slightly come out of the pose I am in. I repeat this while looking at erotic imagery. If one does happen to reach orgasm it is similar to a prostate orgasm in the sense that it occurs for a longer duration with high intensity. 7. *Seated* - Do the same procedure of the legs and add uddiyana bandha and mula bandha(breath is paused and stomach is drawn inward towards the spine). Use the side of your wrist(bone) or an object to add pressure to the genital area described above. 8. *Standing* - Stand on your tippy toes and do the procedure of the legs. Press the pubic bone into a counter or a table to generate the pressure required for the sensation to arise. If you don't have a table or a chair, you can use the pad of your thumb to add pressure to this area. 9. *Kneeling/Without extending the legs* - This is done by first doing the leg extension cycle a few times until the sensation becomes more and more present in the genital(svadisthana) area. Then you just add pressure with either the side of the wrist, or the pad of your thumb, to that area where the sensation arises(in the genital region) and a feeling like "semen is rising"(for men), or the "shivering sensation is rising upwards", or "the tingling shiver sensation is becoming more and more present". 10. *To just get an erection(for men, especially when it is cold)*. Repeat the extension procedure multiple times with added pressure to the penis root area until the shaft enlarges. 11. To the onlooker, it just looks like you are stretching your legs or yawning or just doing a yoga pose. But, with practice, you will be able to make the area so sensitive that even the slightest touch/pressure will send you into states of orgasmic bliss. 12. ●kegel-pedal-rotate-uddiyana-mula-curl-Shiver/Tingle | This is a sequence I repeat mentally while I'm doing the procedure. It helps to get the sensation to occur immediately. It's kind of like doing navi kriya in the sense that you are doing an action while mentally saying something. 13. I hope this technique I've created(nowhere else on the internet will you find anything about this) works for you, and you can start to enjoy doing normal Hatha yoga poses. During my studies, when I was developing this technique, the closest thing I found to it was a term known as "coregasm/yogasm." 14. Thank you all for reading, and hopefully, this becomes your new and more spiritual way of pleasing yourself and reaching higher levels of consciousness. This is a higher conscious way of doing something most people perform unconsciously. 15. Stay tuned, and I will post a way to achieve lucid dreams and soul travel at will. I currently write all my songs while asleep. The process I have created will allow any beginner to have a lucid dream or soul travel. 16. #GodSpeed. . . . #5 in detail >>> You really have to extend the feet/ankles and the knee caps to full extension. I'd love to make a video and show how many seconds it takes for me to even reach orgasm. Just extending the legs does nothing. You must first extend the knee caps, ankles(feet) away from the body. Then, while holding that extension, you press the pelvis(pubic bone) into the floor. If you are a man, I recommend you do this preliminary exercise to get the sensation I'm speaking about: 0. 【Remeber to do uddiyana bandha(bringing in the lower abs or 3 inches Below the belly button towards the spine) and mula bandha(contracting the perineum and PAUSE THE BREATH).】 1. Get an erection 2. Lay on the stomach and have the erect genital organ facing upwards(fowards) in the center of the body. 3. Place your left or right hand under the erect genital organ, palm facing upwards on the underside of the penis. Now, wrap your hand around the shaft of the penis still with the palm facing upwards. 4. Pull the skin of the shaft all the way down to the scrotum, press the pubic bone into the hand holding the shaft of the penis, now add the extension of the legs(the knee caps and the ankles extend away from the body). 5. Hold this for a few seconds, relax and repeat. I recommend using a erotic visual to help you. Idk why, but it helps to create the sensation. Once you feel you are about to reach orgasm stop and do the same thing without the use of the hand. 6. I added this hand method as a way to "bring the floor" up to you a bit more so you can see what's really going on. When you get good you won't need any pressure on the genital organs and can even lie on your back, with hands at your sides, and still create the shiver/tingling or lightning-like sensation or a sensation like you are about to pee. __________________________________________ Definitely don't over complicate it: ●Just extending the ankles and feet away from the body and having the kneecaps lock in full extension while on your stomach won't cause any sensation to occur. I just tried this, and nothing happened. >1.)Do a reverse kegel first by pressing the pubic bone into the floor, placing pressure on the genital region. >2.)Extend BOTH feet away from the body(LIKE PRESSING A CAR PEDAL) so tension, like flexing a muscle, occurs in BOTH ankles. >3.)Try to keep the feet touching the floor, but the kneecaps raised off of the floor. >4.)Try to rotate the left knee to the right knee and the right knee toward the left knee, so pressure is further added upon the perineum. >5.)Draw the stomach inwards and pause the breath, contract the perineum(uddiyana and mula bandha) and CURL THE PELVIS FOWARDS(LIKE DOING A HUMP OR IN YOGIC TERMS THIS WOULD BE THE "COW" PORTION OF THE "CAT AND COW" HATHA POSES. RESEARCH THESE POSES). >6.)Hold this "locked" position for a few seconds trying to feel a sensation of water like substance rising in the genital region(like peeing, or also called the "shivering sensation" or "tingling sensation" >7.) Exhale and relax, then repeat a few times until orgasm occurs. ...Be mature in the comments section. -
Ishanga replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well all of us are full of Potential, by choosing to be Happy naturally, I am choosing a certain Potential that may lead to other Potentials. In my Experience, suffering emotions like anger, sadness, anxiousness/depression (have experienced them all) are not empowering for Me, they lead me to less Potential being exposed in my Experience, but others are able to choose what Potentials are experienced, if they want the suffering ones so be it! For Me I want Joyful Experiences, as I said to Princess Arabia on another thread, with Bliss/Joy as Your Natural Experience the Road to higher Potentials is smoother, with Suffering the road is bumpier, I prefer smoother roads:) Plus Suffering Emotions are unhealthy for the Body and Mind, causes more problems to arise that have to be dealt with, I know no one that wants to consciously feel sad, angry, depressed or anxious... -
Ishanga replied to Actualising's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Happiness or Bliss is not Enlightenment but via Happiness/Bliss Enlightenment is that much closer as an Everyday Experience.. For sure You will not Experience Enlightenment via Suffering, how can One be Suffering and Experiencing Truth? Just look at Nature (anything non Human), its mostly perfect, its a Physical Reflection of Truth, if all Humans were too disappear, the planet would flourish, but if Bees, Insects, Plants, Trees, Soil, etc were to disappear, we would all die... So that tells You. So via Happiness/Bliss, the path to Enlightenment is easier and more available to You, it will come naturally as You are no longer a slave to outside situations and have an inner sense of Reality as it is, Clarity! -
Carl-Richard replied to JoshB's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Overwhelmed as in "oweee poor mee's, I dunno what to dooo, who am I in this chaos, what is going on..."? Basically, yes. Overwhelmed as in "I have such a strong desire to fulfill this goal, I'm overwhelmed by drive and purpose, I'm drowning in ecstatic bliss, rapture and the wonder of life"? No. You can have those things when enlightened, but if they're not virtually constant, they will be very streamlined and fleeting. Rarely will you approach a problem and feel stuck. Neuroscientifically speaking, enlightenment puts you in a constant doing-mode. There is very little room for hesitation, at least moment to moment. You can "hesitate" or withhold making a decision; you can be wise and wait things out; but indecision due to personal calamities and generally unstable behavior is rather out of the picture definitionally. You could imagine someone regressing in their state due to severe environmental stress or illness, but other than that, no, they're pretty much beyond that. If you look at sincerely enlightened people; the way they act, the way they move, speak, emote; it's like a flowing stream. They have let go of something big, partially the desire to control, partially the desire to be something, to have something, to let something be other than it is. And of course the paradox is that on the outside, it looks almost nothing like it. They are doing so many things, they are making so many apparent decisions, have such strong desires and values. To discern enlightenment, requires dealing with subtle clues. -
@EdgeGod900 The “follow your bliss” people have large red and blue shadows. In life you have to do a lot of miserable shit that will make you stronger and more disciplined. Forget the hippe slogans for now and drill down on your strengths and weaknesses, so you can set yourself up. Then you can choose to bask in the sun and meditate without any distractions.
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Sorry what is 'Follow your bliss' and 'Zone of genius'? Are those books?
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What I gathered from Following your Bliss, is doing something you want intrinsically/ spiritually/ subconsciously Whereas Zone of Genius is something you are scared to grow into. It seems like its almost impossible to see the distinction between following your Bliss vs Zone of Competence.
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Breakingthewall replied to Xonas Pitfall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You don't understand what I mean. What supreme bliss or benediction? That's religion . The only bliss is open your eyes and see the beauty. You are what exist. Everything is here, now. The substance of this moment is the existence. There is nothing more better or sacred of anything, it's always the same: the existence. Forget the perspective of future, heaven, other dimensions, god, all that are just ideas. The real thing is here, now. It's the totality.everythig else is just the same. Just remove the psyche and feel the real thing, the unlimited. -
gettoefl replied to Xonas Pitfall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All too dark for me I'll choose the supreme bliss and benediction every time Rather than dabbling in these nightmares thanks I am going home You continue as you are though -
Ishanga replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I can agree, the Body and Mind are full of Karma or Conditioning, Tendencies or one can say "Predetermination" but that is the level of Survival and Intentions and taking actions, the body is very Survival Orientated, the Mind is very Cultural and Societal orientated, its very conditioned, what You think, Your ideologies of Life, likes and dislikes are very conditioned into You as well as influenced by genes and such (all of this are forms of memory which relates to Karma), but we are not the Body and Mind (as You said earlier), we can rise about the Body and Mind level of Awareness, and be Undetermined in only "How we Experience Life", which has nothing to do with Actions, or thinking, or intentions, its before all of that, and via the Experience of Oneness, Completeness, Bliss, Consciousness, Absolute, then we function here with a Body and Mind, perform actions that in someways seem predetermined, but our experience is not, and that is where life is... The higher up Your Intensity is of Awareness, Perception, Consciousness, Bliss (Sat Chit Ananda, Truth/Consciousness/Bliss) then the more Free Will You have access too, this is only in the realm of our Personal Experience, which is either of a separate detached Individual entity from everything else, or that of Oneness, Connected, Inclusive with Everything else...Not of what the Body does, what the Mind does, its thinking process, its survival mechanism process and the desires it wants to fulfill!! -
Someone here replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The body is not yourself. The mind is not yourself. They're only temporary conditionings. They're there for a while then they're gone. Like bubbles on the ocean. Bubbles come bubbles go every second. Yet the ocean always remains the same. And so it is with life on this planet. People come people go. things come..things go everything changes.. changes..changes but you are the ocean of bliss. You have absolutely nothing to do with these changes whatsoever. This is the key realisation to freedom or liberation. -
Last week, I experienced the most profound reactivation episode to date, and it occurred while dreaming. Although I've had other reactivations, none were as intense as this one. It's been over two years since I last used any psychedelics, following a period in which I did more than 200 trips involving mushrooms, 5-MeO-DMT, and 5-MeO-MALT. In the dream, I found myself held captive by two individuals who demanded a ransom for my release. Once they got the ransom, they let me go, but before doing it they poisoned me and set the building where I was being imprisoned on fire. I knew how to get the antidote, but I had only minutes before the poison would begin to kill me. I escaped the building which was about to explode only to find out that my captors had framed me as the perpetrator. The police now believed I was the kidnapper. While I was being held on the ground by police officers, I was trying to explain the whole situation to a female detective, which wasn’t buying it. All of a sudden the poison started killing me, my thumb finger was swelling at growing speed. I was sure I was about to die. But then my swollen thumb finger divided itself in the middle and right at the centre of my thumb appeared the Mind of God, infinity. At this point, I was starting to realize my true identity. In all of the chaos that ensued, I felt the need to ask the female detective, "Who am I?" She was hypnotized by the appearance of infinity in the middle of my thumb and wasn't really listening to me. So I kept asking, again and again, each time more vehemently. She finally answered, "You are God." Then our gazes met, and I could read in her eyes that we were having the same simultaneous realization: "Oh fuck, oh fuck, I'm God! I'm God!" The dream universe was melting down while we were realizing we were the same entity. Just after I died and woke up in the dream to myself as God, I found myself in "real" reality, and the enlightenment experience picked up from where it left off in the dream. At this point, I was fully aware of myself as God, experiencing unity and metaphysical love with my room/consciousness, just as in the peak of a 5-MEO-MALT trip. Waves of bliss flowed from my spine up to my brain, like a kundalini awakening. I decided to breathe, relax, and let the experience cool down. If I had wanted, I could have followed the waves of bliss and kept the experience going, but I chose to let it go. Has anyone else experienced a "dream awakening" such as the one I've shared? What kind of reactivation experiences do you have? Mine tend to be kundalini-related; I often wake up in the middle of the night with waves of bliss flowing through my spine. P.S. I think those nasty kidnappers gave me some "imaginary DMT", not poison.
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@manuel bon then we agree to disagree No worries. If i need to use a proper word I will use a limitation as you said .that's what I actually mean . The constant need to take care of the body. To eat..shit..and piss and shower etc.. isn't that such a curse ? Why do you think all enlightened masters are trying to detach from the body ? Is carrying a body a burden or a bliss? You are identified with an imaginary temporary physical avatar.. For a while. Not for long time but for a while. The more I recognize my true nature and then compare it to the body.. The more I see the body as a burden. A burden that I have to carry on for my whole life. Babysitting this body. Task after task. Feed me. Please Me. Rest me. Move me. Clean me. Over and over again. A chore after a chore. Until I fall dead after reaching the limit of exhaustion. A house of diseases. A house of desires. The never-ending desire that doesn't amount to anything other than the multiplication of itself and the expansion of disappointment. A house of needs. A house of lacking and constant aiming. The mind can be at ease. The soul can just be content in the now. The body has to perform effort and chase after it's "needs". There seems to be a conflict between the body and the soul. The nature of limitation VS unlimitedness. What is your relationship with your body?
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Ishanga replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes well put, this is a game field, it can be suffering like a Hell scape or Bliss like a Heavenly realm, that is the choice, we are most choosing the Hell scape unconsciously, but it can be another way.. Again this is not "Negativity" its just the reality, we are here to live out a certain Potential, we can choose how to be, the question is only a matter of HOW! -
Ishanga replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This mostly applies to the Human World, no other Life form suffers as much or intensely as Humans do and can, so its a Human problem, and I partly agree with what You said, there are way more ppl suffering today than are Peaceful or at Bliss, and the #'s are higher than ever, but we have all the comforts and conveniences one would want to have, so its a paradox, its forcing us to look inside ourselves and take charge, because all the suffering happens within ourselves, no where else, so its a individual as well as group thing, each individual has to take responsibility for being how they want to BE, and not look for it outside themselves, that alone will changes things... It is depressing to say the least to see how this world is, I see it everyday, its hard at times to have hope and want to stick around to see how it all turns out at times... -
So, I’ve done most of what can be done to get enlightened. Long retreats, shaktipat, various techniques, and so on. I’ve reached various attainments like cessation that some call enlightenment, but it’s just breadcrumbs compared to the cake of enlightenment you can reach with psychedelics. The hypothesis: You can get enlightened to the highest level via divine substances, but you have to be there for long periods of time, I’m talking months, to callibrate, to soak it up, to make it your home, to learn how to live this new life, and then you can stay there. The “clinical trial”: I will injest medium to high dose of shrooms/lsd/other every or every other weekend and I will follow their guidance how to live to maintain that state. From my experience, it’s a life of ultimate, original creativity mixed with the deepest stillness and bliss. My mind and body are healed there. It’s heaven. It’s also a natural life - alot of nature, pure, light foods, and so on. But it’s all intuitive. I noticed that if I follow what I am guided to do, I can stay awake for many nights without any negative effects, with continuous bliss and a clear mind, coupled with a non-dual or close to a non-dual, beautific state. I think you can’t penetrate into higher levels using meditation or any other technique, as you’re trying to solve an issue from the same level. You need help from above. It’s also not recommended to anyone who hasn’t trained their mind to a high level, because the mind grows more powerful the higher the state, so you MUST control it near perfectly or bad things can happen. You have to know how to maintain a positive, conscious inner state. You have to be savvy in the realm of higher states, which comes from training your mind and from dozens of trips. You also havo to understand the power of the mind. You can trick yourself completly and utterly there. If you believe demons will get ya - they will! Literally! You have to control your mind perfectly and only perfection will manifest. Otherwise, it’s the story of the Son who stole his Father’s heavenly horses and destroyed the earth. I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone tbh, only to myself as I know my level of training and I’ve done many many trips. Preparation; I know that I will feel miserable in a higher state if I enter it without preparing my body. To do so, I’m doing a 3-week fruit detox to purify my system. Daily time in nature and alot of yoga as well. Retaining my, ammm, let’s just say no sexual thoughts and similar stuff. Also doing a mental detox: using the internet only for enlightenment stuff and work. Staying conscious throughout the day. Maintaining a positive attitude. Not judging anyone or anything. Closing thoughts: The last time I did lsd I stayed in an enlightened or an almost enlightened state for 3-4 days. No sleep, little food, only beauty, love, perfection. No side effects after. I did have to live a life where I follow what my intuition says I need to do to stay there. Spent nights in nature. Was amazing and beautiful. It’s such a huge shift from a mid life to a perfect life that it’s uncomfortable. Disorienting. But after alot of visits I feel less and less confused. I hope to stay there and live that new, higher level life. We’ll see how it goes. If I see that it’s working I might create videos as it’s so fun to share original, conscious, positive, fresh thoughts that arise from a higher level of consciousness. If it works I will be maximally happy, as then, it turns out that I don’t need to work towards enlightenment for many thousands of hours via meditation as I though, but it can be given just like so. 🙏🙏 What’s better than getting Heaven with no effort? 😁
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Princess Arabia posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Please don't get hung up on the terms, words, labels and what they should be called. Concentrate on the underlying message and what I'm trying to point to. There's only One. God/Absolute/The All etc.. It's Infinite. We are all expressions of that. There are levels to existence: 7. The Absolute/God/The All/The One Consciousness /The One Awareness/The All knowing/Existence itself. There is no other. 6. The manifestation of #7. The I AM/Your I AM Awareness of BEING. Being aware of Yourself as that one Reality. The Absolute's expression 5. Your I AM identity. The All in physical expression. Whatever you say I AM. This is where the Law of Assumption comes in. Whatever you assume yourself to be. 4. What you assume about yourself and the world. 4 and 5 are ideas/assumptions. 3, 2 &1 goes together. Thoughts, feelings and emotions. Thoughts and feelings combined, creates the emotions. These are not reality and have no source. We get caught up in them believing they are Reality but they're not. We're trying to control these and get caught up in the vicious cycle. This is not where creation is. It's at levels 4 - 7. The one energy source that permeates everything is the I AM. The I AM is nothing but that ONE EMOTION. There's only one emotion and the rest are sensations of that one emotion. The emotions you feel are filters of that one source. They are not reality but expressions of reality. When you feel an emotion that is uncomfortable or "negative", it's an emotion being filtered from who you truly are and is not true of your true identity otherwise it wouldn't feel like that. Something that is not a fundamental truth does not feel good. That one emotion, the I AM is being expressed through you as love, gratitude joy, freedom and bliss, etc. These are elevated emotions that are true to the ALL. You are already all that. It's a state of being. Your personalized physical expression of the All in you is expressed as a result of your assumptions about yourself and the world. Everything else that you see in the 3D world is like the show, the circus, chaotic and out of control - so it seems. These are also expressions of your identity but they are not reality only ideas and expressions of the true reality. Now, we try to create from these ideas of reality by trying to cope, trying to change them and trying to deal with the circumstances of this non-reality. This is very tiring and only creates anxiety, depression anger and resentment. This part of reality is like the weeds and remnants and is not relevant as far as creation goes and what experiences we have. There's no emotional stability in the weeds and circus where things are always changing (emotions, thoughts and feelings). Trying to change our thoughts and feelings is an indication that we believe those are reality and we get caught up in the cycle. Never feeling fulfilled. One has to be at levels 5,6,7, knowing you are already that. Trying to change your feelings which are not permanent doesn't do anything. You have to know you're worthy safe and loved. You will never feel those upper emotions from the level of trying to change things in the weed. It comes from KNOWING who you truly are. The thoughts and feelings keep you trapped, they make you feel unfulfilled and needing to do something about them. If you already know who you truly are and have formed assumptions based from that, even if thoughts, feelings and emotions overtake you, you will not identify with them because you know they are fleeting and changing and does not matter. All that matters is that you stay at the higher levels where true creations take place and stay there. This video explains my post. I'm not writing this post because of what I believe this man is saying. It's from being in the field for a few years, absorbing everything from every angle, from every experience to every insight, to what every guru says, to every notion of no self, to every thing Leo teaches, to every one that says there's no you and that its all illusory to every comment to every thread to every whatever. It all boils down to God Realization and how you use that for earthly manifestation and how to do it properly. There's nothing in the 3D world to change to get your desired reality. We have to stay with the identity of the one true reality and ignore everything else and allow that reality to work through you to bring forth it's expression. -
Javfly33 replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Definetely, that´s the work 😂 I get that, I definetely not a mystic anyway if not i would have gone to an ashram, but is clear the only thing that closes openness is attachment to the limited. And attachment because is based in the belief one will find anything worthwile in the limited. The issue (or blessing) is that i have tasted at this point way too many times the sweetness of the unlimited, at this point is not just about openess, is literally Bliss, is an explosion, a total Win, a Victory, a Victory of Myself over everything It feels so good when it happens, is so clear that nothing in reality is as worthwhile as that, because everything else is limited, is not me, only real me is worthwhile, but you have to see it clearly. Once you see it you want more and more and more, you are not ok with settling with just a bit, you want to walk straight into that, no matter the cost. Because is so good. -
James123 replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why do you give a fuck about the world with thinking about it, why don't you go with the moment as you will die next second? Than relax and let go, feel the bliss. -
Princess Arabia replied to trenton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not sure if I would put it in these exact words, but the essence of what you're saying is what's the case. I would say the "I" thought/energy comes with it a feeling of lack - automatically. It cannot help but to feel lack because it's the energy that thinks it's separate. How can something that is a part of the whole but thinks it's separate not feel lack. It's impossible not to. There's no healing there because it's in it's nature to feel lack, incomplete and unfulfilled. It cannot be any other way. This is at the core of humanity's problems and why there are so many problems both individually and collectively. It is very painful, tiring and exhausting to be a human because it is operating from the feeling of separation when there is none. This is why if one wants to keep the human identity it is still important to realize what you truly are at the core and think and act from that place because that's how one can truly enjoy the human experience and integrate the two. Feelings of joy, happiness, bliss etc will be automatic because there will be no feelings of lack and separation which is where all our problems lie and one won't find the need to chase happiness. -
Ishanga replied to trenton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I agree, the identity that I am "Always" an addict or Alcoholic is not Empowering IMO, and then they lose their ability to Respond, and become Reactive in nature. Having the ability to Respond, gives back sovereignty to ones self. Just imagine Your hand and arm just moving around at will, up down sideways, on its on will, would that be a problem? So why is that we think controlling our thoughts, our fears and desires is not possible when we can control most all other parts of our body in major ways? There's always other issues underlying the need to use any substance for pain or suffering relief, watch Gabor Mate, he's an expert on this stuff, worked downtown Vancouver drug addiction central for many years...its mostly about childhood, lack of love or attention and issues being push down then suffering comes afterwards... This is why I like the Path of Bliss, Bliss is not the goal of any spiritual path or method, but its the grease/oil of the engine, when Your in a Blissful state regularly, Your not working against yourself, Your intelligence that is within is working for You now, and that will propel You to higher Possibilities and Potentials on the Spiritual Path, its a tragedy isn't it when most all the ppl on the planet are not living up to their Potential, and most are not! -
Some dude on the net replied to Some dude on the net's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@PurpleTree Because your still green. You don't care about the intricate connections of the world. People dismiss the truth about the world even when it's served on a silver platter. Let others reply, I'm not gonna argue with people that don't even want to watch the info "because if has subtitles". Every time people lose and argument they correct grammar mistakes. The only thing you care about is to looks like a smart ass and defend US propaganda. Go and take DMT and bliss into infinity while the US butchers 2.000.000 Palestinians. -
We need 1) Transcripts generated 2) Convert Transcripts into PDF 3) Upload them 10-at-a-time into ChatGPT 4o I am already taking PDFs from Joseph Rodriguez and feeding them in, check it out I'm doing short pdfs, Leo's you might do 1-at-a-time Here is a summary of the foundational models and frameworks for personal transformation based on the latest uploaded files: 1. Decreeing and Manifestation (from You Shall Decree, and it Comes to Pass)(You shall decree, and i…) Decreeing Power: Your conscious awareness creates your reality. By claiming yourself to be or possess something, it is manifested in the physical world. Consciousness of Being: The key to manifestation is remaining aware that you already are or have what you desire. Autosuggestion: "I decree that I AM love, happiness, peace, bliss, and fulfillment, and this is expressed in all areas of my life." 2. The Power of Visualization (from Your Invisible Power)(Your Invisible PowerGen…) Visualization as Creative Power: Deliberately visualizing desires attracts the necessary resources and events to manifest them. Faith and Will: Visualization must be supported by steady faith and willpower to prevent distractions or doubts from interfering. Autosuggestion: "I call upon the power of I AM, visualizing my desires as already fulfilled, knowing that life aligns to reveal them." etc
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Striving for “ultimate happiness” is IMO overrated. For me it is precisely the growth/ work of becoming someone that makes me fulfilled. It is also deeper, because even in the shittiest of days, I still feel I am doing the right thing. I tried being content with existence as is for almost a year. Too much resistance. I realized I have a lot of karma to burn through. Good thing is, bliss is always there to be found if you want to come back to it. So don’t feel bad at all for wanting to explore consciousness.