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@Colin It's shocking. I had just finished up watching part II of the nonduality series and i have been thinking about physics all day. Then, BOOM... This happens
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Leo Gura replied to Paulus Amadeus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Paulus Amadeus That's right. You can look forward to an infinite number of times being raped, murdered, and abused. And you can also look forward to an infinite number of times being loved, caressed, wowed, overjoyed, etc. You will experience every experience possible. When this really sinks into your mind, you will weep like a baby. And you will also understand why nonduality is so fucking radical that no one wants to accept it. It's way too much to accept. The Absolute will simultaneously awe you and scare the shit out of you. Just think about this for a moment: there are 39 million cows slaughtered every year in the USA. You, as God, will experience each of those slaughterings personally, with your own throat. And that's just cows, in this country, on this planet, in one year. There are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the universe with planets similar to ours, with who knows what kinds of creatures committing what kinds of acts of violence against one another. And the universe has 14 billion years in it. And this is just one out of an infinite number of universes! And suddenly you start to see the scope of God. -
Leo Gura replied to Shanmugam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Shanmugam I would bet that human beings have been independently experiencing nonduality for 50,000+ years. Way before any kind of written surviving records, languages, or traditions. Psychedelic mushrooms grow on every continent. And they would have certainly been eaten. -
Maybe watch some lighter QM’s video’s on YouTube first. The movie What The Bleep is ok as an introductory. I watched the double slit cartoon many many times before I started to see the implication. You might also try out videos on Schrodinger’s cat, quantum erasure, entanglement, and relativity first, for a month or two maybe, then Leo’s video. Looking into (google, YouTube etc) the Many Worlds Theory vs the Copenhagen Theory debate is helpful to loosen up the mind. Just a suggestion. Or try psychedelics and just have a look at it. After that stuff, if you have not heard of them, check out Bruce Lipton (epigenetics) and Gregg Braden (heart centered theory), on a personal level, I just like those guys. As far as being in high school & QM’s, there’s advantage there. Most people twice your age are paradigm locked for the duration. Their mind can not allow QM’s, Nonduality, Self, etc, to be equated to their finger.
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eputkonen replied to frnsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@frnsh, we are often talking about nonduality...and so there is no other. I don't tend to speak of it as scripted and mechanical as some do and I am OK with talking about choice. Saying you have freewill or no-freewill does not really matter...the issues arise when you only say I chose this, but I didn't choose that. There is no other...so either you chose everything or you chose nothing. For me, I feel more juice and life in the freewill paradigm that the no-freewill paradigm. -
@lmfao Write “I am God” on a piece of paper. Then write down everything that comes to mind - likely a list of thoughts to the contrary. Then categorize those into columns of direct experience and not direct experience (belief/idea/thought). Nonduality is a change in what you are, in reality, in all experience from here on out, by a billion degrees. Absolutely completely different in every way. Looking for nonduality in scripture is like looking for eyesight on a poster. It’s very trap-ish. It’s like reading a book, understanding the duality in thinking, and then figuring you’ve got it now. Some people get stuck in scriptures and ancient guru’s, and have no idea they’re stuck. The loss, is nothing was actually real-ized. Nothing was integrated. Same life, different way of looking at it. But the experience of life didn’t actually change at all, other than to be more enjoyable, conceptually. I would drop scripture, do practices everyday, use psychadelics, and see for yourself, DIRECTLY. Listening to a variety of non dual teachers would be more helpful because they are talking to you about you directly, vs stories that you’re supposed to wrap your head around. Leo, Tolle, Spira, Hicks, Mooji - what arises from the greater mix of these would be much more helpful IMO. The Bible, Quran, etc, etc - these are books written by people, about God, to be read by people. Skip em all together. Only direct experience matters. The traps are cunning, many, and deep.
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Chapter 3. I wondered how long it would take before I slithered my way back into journaling. Two weeks. Not bad. This was my first incarnation, at the birth of the forum: That JJ guy had a few awakening experiences and immediately latched onto the spiritual ego like a baby on his mother's breast. He wanted to proselytize everyone around him to join "Group Consciousness," a coalition against all sleepwalkers. He preached from the bible of Neoadvita, using poetic Jed McKenn-an lines such as "There's nowhere to go," "Life is play," and "Stop seeking." Little did he realize, the group leader himself was an unconscious dimwit. Whoops! And then, the second incarnation: After realizing that initial spiritual awakening was not a cure-all for chronically low self-esteem, that JJ guy almost killed himself through orthorexia, an unhealthy obsession with healthy eating. He stopped running from the grief, the shame, and the anger of past hurts - and proceeded to fall apart. Back and forth, back and forth, he oscillated from immense love to immense hopelessness. He was standing at the edge of oblivion, looking down at the gaping hole, pondering about meaning and what to do next. But the Universe found many ways to save his life, whether through a yoga pose, a song, a book, or a few lovely forum members. He thought he wanted to be a musician. But after being immersed in the field for a few years, the motivation waned. Idealistic blinders removed, he made one final effort to publish five songs. And that was that. I haven't picked up the guitar or sang in a few weeks. The musician in me is dead, and I'm currently in the grieving process. Now, it's time to get real. I've had some profound awakening experiences. I have agape moments - those moments where you are so grateful to be alive that it tears your heart to pieces. But I still commit spiritual procrastination every day. I know the path (i.e. real life), but I avoid walking it. Nonono, let's not sugar-coat this with, "There are no such thing as problems, because #nonduality! Just contemplate! DOI DOI!" Been there, done that. Definitely helps to have that perspective, but if I want to be somewhat human again (which I think is preferable to being a nondual drunk-on-emptiness camel), I think it's a good idea to be as honest as possible with myself and re-establish balance in my life. Issues: Chronically low self-esteem. I spent most of my young adult life being bullied and sucking up to others. Now I subconsciously believe I'm unworthy. I also believe that I don't deserve to get what I want. Hence the spiritual ego, hence the desire for purity in mind, body, and spirit. Chronic social anxiety. I'm years behind in my social skills. I notice my subtle body contracts whenever I'm around people. I feel like I'm being judged all the time. Knee-jerk depression. It's 50% gone since I re-introduced meat back into the diet, but I still have some lows here and there. Being an INFJ and HSP, especially in a society that wants everything opposite to my personality. I judge myself harshly and beat myself up for not being like everyone else. ADHD. Again, tweaking the diet's helped a ton with this. Supporting myself financially. Uhhhh, what's a jorb? Body tensions. Improved a lot since starting hatha yoga, but still terrible posture, back pain, and psychosomatic issues. I don't know how to be a friend. No, seriously. I have acquaintances, but virtually no friends. I don't reach out to people, not even my brother. I don't know how. Sexual repression. Likely due to past heartbreaks and weird Freudian shit in childhood. Living in a town surrounded by old retirees as a twenty-something. Desires: I want to feel comfortable in my own skin. I want to love myself as I am. I want to be comfortable around everyone. I want to be as open as possible. I want to serve others. I want to feel joy again. I want to find my place. I want to be able to commit to things and focus without abandoning ship at any sign of failure. I want to choose what I watch on Youtube instead of the other way around. In the meantime, I'd like to have an enjoyable day job that doesn't sap my energy, so I can support myself. I'd like to feel like I'm actually in my body and not feel like an alien. Having a friend scares me and feels too labor-intensive, but I think it would be nice to try. I'd like to try dating again at some point. I want to live on my own again. I likely missed a couple things, but they'll appear later in this journal. Now is the time to learn how to do this adult human thing, one small step at a time. Now is the time to go from point A to point B. Now is the time for a journey to elsewhere.
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A mindblowing new video about Quantum Mechanics and Nonduality is coming soon. But it will be a day or two late later than usual because this video is long and will take a lot of time to shoot, render, and upload. Just giving ya'll a heads up. No, I haven't been hit by a bus.
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JustinS replied to JustinS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"No experiencer, no experiences, got it.....So, what is there after no more experiences?" <-- says the mind. LOL, oh how it keeps on looking for what is after, what is after, what is it for me, would it feel good? @Natasha Beautiful. The girl in the screen is the dream character (little mind), the projector is Consciousness, and the Screen is the Absolute. The projector (consciousness) and the projection (dream) come and go but the screen remains. From duality, to nonduality, to nonexistence. I am That. -
Not too much. It will naturally happen within the next few centuries as society evolves. All this information will become freely available to all human beings, ultimately. But not in this lifetime. I have little interest in waging a war inside of academia. That is a painful bureaucratic game. Although someone will eventually have to fight it. But that is not my life purpose. 1) Camera makes it look that way 2) These days, very few. I'm sort of outgrowing books. Most of my time is going into spiritual practices instead. It's very hard to find a book these days which doesn't seem like delusion, trivia, or something I already know. 3) Most days I meditate for more than an hour. I try to do at least 2 hours (if you include yoga and various other techniques I do). I'm not sure why you're making philanthropy a stage. It's no more a stage than being a cowboy is stage. There's nothing wrong with philanthropy, and I'm sure it could grow you in many ways, but it is in no way necessary. If you are attracted to philanthropy, then it's probably part of your Life Purpose, in which case, knock yourself out. For me, the influence I already have is enough. If anything, I spend too much of my time helping people. The next stage for me would be to go totally solo, yogi-in-a-cave-style. First, create a hopeful vision for my life Totally clean up my diet Exercise Bloodwork to make sure there aren't any chemical/vitamin/hormone problems Get a qEEG and schedule neurofeedback brain training Holotrophic breathwork Psychedelics Kriya yoga Nathaniel Branden's self-esteem exercises Reading lots of self-help books and implementing the various exercises given there Finding my Life Purpose and aligning myself with it Solo meditation retreats I don't practice that technique much. About an hour. That's a complicated question to answer. People can use those terms differently. Psyche is basically your entire mind. The ego. The self-mind. All of your thoughts and emotions and how they manipulate you into action. Consciousness and awareness are largely synonymous. Although some teachers will use those words in a more technical manner and draw fine distinctions. Consciousness/awareness is the only thing that exists. It is the substance of everything you've ever experienced. Replace your notion of "matter/energy/physics" with consciousness. Yes, it was a culture shock. It was challenging and definitely forged my psyche and persona in deep ways. Perhaps the most important thing it did was make me much more openminded. I saw the relativity of all cultural norms quite quickly as a result. Although I still didn't go far enough into realizing that physical reality is itself a cultural invention. No Hilo Hawaii isn't touristy. Just the opposite. It's important to know who the Admin and Mods are. Sorry, trade secret I have tried LOTS of stuff with little success. I think my issue ultimately boils down to a blocked chakra, which I will work to clear using various techniques. I think the issue should resolve itself with full enlightenment. I will shoot a video in the future about how to deal with chronic fatigue and thyroid issues. There's a lot to say. It's a very complex topic with many variables to consider. It's highly individualized. Autoimmune issues have many factors. One solution does not cure everyone. Maybe this one: https://www.actualized.org/articles/increase-your-results-from-self-help-products-by-10x It's an old one, but the info there is life-changing if implemented. It's actually impossible to construct a nondual language because all language is symoblic, and therefore indirect, and therefore dualistic. There is no language at the level of nonduality. No, I'm not interested in language. I am interested in escaping language. All language is a human invention and not fundamental. Faster? Sounds like you're already going fast. You've only seem the tip of the iceberg of crazy It's gonna get worse before it gets better, so buckle up and set proper expectations and have a long time horizon. All your fears -- all the stuff you can't stand, all your worse nightmares -- you must eventually face on this path. There is no way around it. You must face death itself. You must be willing to surrender EVERYTHING! Ultimately you will discover that all fear is just a hollow illusion. Your very death is just a sham. Your life is nothing but a dream, and all your problems are dream-problems, like the problems of a character in a cartoon. He's a great teacher.
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Leo Gura replied to WildeChilde's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's very simple: There are 7 billion unique minds on this planet, and they will all interpret and understand (or misunderstand) nonduality in their own unique way, as you would expect a complex organism, composed for trillions of neurons to do. Nothing surprising here. The surprise would be if 7 billion different minds all agreed with each other. -
JustinS replied to JustinS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Is there such thing as nonduality prior to the word nonduality? There is no such thing as nonduality." First minute. "You don't want liberation, you don't want it, because if you have it you won't be there to appreciate it." Ouch! -
Abiding in nondual awareness can still lead to identification with the Oneness, Self, Absolute. Jac takes it a step further to see that duality and nonduality are still within conceptualizations and that there is one step further which is That. To see through the identification of the nondual. The meta of Reality, the inception of nonduality, beyond form and formless. Finish it off. "Nonduality is still within the movie. It's nothing special. Take it off the pedestal if you have it on a pedestal."
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Leo Gura replied to egoless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
None of you here are even 1% close to Mahasamadhi (if such a thing is even possible). So don't worry about it. Focus on experiencing nonduality first. Then you will understand what to do. It's like you're in kindergarten asking, "But how will I ever handle writing my PhD dissertation?" At least finish high school before you ask that. -
Leo Gura replied to starsofclay's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Neo Your thoughts will never figure this out. Nonduality exists at a higher plane of consciousness. -
Shanmugam replied to egoless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@egoless Quit this forum, don't read any other books and just listen only to Rupert Spira.. The more you spend time in listening to various people (especially those gurus with long beard), the more confused and frustrated you will become.. Nonduality has become a garbage-can where millions of people have thrown their own beliefs, interpretations, delusions and some claims based on selfish intentions.. Life is beautiful. Just enjoy and live the life totally, while practicing whatever Rupert Spira says. -
Monkey-man replied to WildeChilde's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Shanmugam it means that you misunderstood Jesus. Plz read Jesus’ teachings carefully. Jesus didn’t teach enlightenment, his teachings are way beyond that. And nonduality isn’t the highest and most profound form of spirituality as many ppl here think. It’s only useful in beginning but eventually it will hold you back. -
JustinS replied to JustinS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Her cute little trailer for her DVD is just so simple and clean. Haha I am not promoting her in anyway it's just that I think she's a true gem! https://jac-okeeffe.com/dvd-going-nowhere "It's Prior to Nonduality, duality and nonduality are still within duality, both categories. Still in the area of conceptualization. So we can see where dualism is still at play and pull back and see that wow the nondual nature of all that is, that's Consciousness....prior to that!" -
JustinS replied to Natasha's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Neat little nonduality joke, starts at 0:50:35 -
Chrissy j replied to Stoica Doru's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Great video. I think this can go well with Leo’s zen devil video where he talks about big and small nonduality. -
Staples replied to Monkey-man's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nietzsche's best concept was to overcome your problems and make yourself a better person. But that should be pretty obvious, right? He laid the foundation of personal development, which is worth praising. As far as nonduality? Doubt it. -
I would like to make a correction. I found out yesterday that my scale was weighing the 5-MeO-DMT wrong. An effective rectal dose isn't 10mg, but more like 20mg. 20mg gives me a pretty deep trip. 24mg is Absolute Infinity for me. Also I learned that 5-MeO-DMT is apparently legal to purchase in Canada. Hooray for Canada! There is also an analogue called 5-MeO-MET which is supposed to be very similar to 5-MeO-DMT, although I have not verified this yet myself. There is also 5-MeO-DALT, which I know even less about, but might be an interesting alternative. My current experience says that 5-MeO-DMT is hands down the best psychedelic for nonduality work. It just blows everything else out of the water. If you can access it, it's really the only one you need. Its clarity is unrivaled. Other psychedelics can be profound and interesting, but 5-MeO-DMT is pure awakening. I have experienced levels of awakening on it so deep that I seriously doubt most enlightenment teachers have accessed such levels of awakening. At these levels, you just become God itself to the point where you cannot even understand how you ever believed you were a human being or that you were even born into the 21th century. I awoken so deep on it I forgot I was born. I forgot there was a past or future. Rectal method is by far the best way to take 5-MeO-DMT. And the sad part is, almost nobody knows about it.
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Nahm replied to Saumaya's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Saumaya So, no one could google something you don’t know anything about? Why not? @Faceless Crickets (silence) was used as a term to point out the oddity of pages and pages of a head butting ego flexing tango, followed by no reply to a direct nonduality experential question. What are other people, to you? -
Nahm replied to Will Bigger's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Faceless No, I don’t see what you mean. Are you experiencing nonduality? What is it like? I want to understand you, but you are speaking using the words fragmentation, center, without explaining what you mean. We could both be saying the exact same thing for all I know.lol. What am I to you? Also, what is the difference between a ‘though of oneness’ and the actualized realized permanent experience of nonduality, in your experience now? -
Nahm replied to MM1988's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@MM1988 A practice in revealing the truth of nonduality is to categorize what arises in you as a thought, or an experience. It’s a practice though, so, like meditation & self inquiry, hearing about this is nothing useful, doing it is all the difference in the ‘world’.