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All is One and One is all. Absolutely. All is love and love is all, indeed. But. Does knowing this put anything to an end? Does one stop infinity from expressing itself eternally? No can do. Obviously. Impossible. Delusional. Imaginary. If you're on this path with an intention to escape or end anything at all; you're in for a rude awakening. There is no escaping, no avoiding, no denying. That is not your highest priority. Otherwise none of this would be here right now, happening effortlessly. You could merge with infinite nothingness and/or fall asleep for another eternity, yes. You could even deconstruct this dream and enter another one, as well... But why, really? It does not matter where are you if you are awake. Nor does it matter what form you are expressing and experiencing yourself through. That is the ultimate beauty of existence. Of true, authentic awakening. Of being. Knowing you could do whatever the heck you want, even completely self-destruct; but still choose to be right here, right now; doing exactly what you are doing. That is the definition of willpower and the driving force. It is also the definition of absolute freedom. That's the force that moves mountains and gives birth to planets and stars. That is the force of creation. Freedom is right in front of your face. Don't search for it elsewhere. If baby Jesus was to knock on your door, holding a billion dollar check in his hands; you'd think baby Jesus wants to fuck you over in some malicious way. You'd think he has some kind of a nasty, hidden intention. Why else would he want to give you a billion dollar check? Who does that, ever?! It is impossible. It must be a trap. Baby Jesus only wants to fool you. So that he could throw you in hell later; to burn for all eternity. Right? How dare he think you were ever going to fall for that? Does he think you are stupid? That is exactly what you are doing with yourself. You want to give yourself the absolute freedom and unconditional love you deep down know you truly deserve; but you think you will somehow be fooled. Tricked. Fucked over. By whom ??!! By you? By infinity? By love? You cannot fuck yourself over more than you have been doing it so far. It is the definition of fucking yourself over and keeping yourself as a hostage. As a slave. Playing victim forever. Instead of playing creator. Instead of L I V I N G. Being. Creating. Expressing. Exploring. Loving. Sharing. Naturally, effortlessly and freely. It is the reason why you are awake. To experience yourself consciously. To know yourself while you are yourself. To recognize your infinitude. To play with yourself. To make love to yourself eternally. In infinite ways. Through infinite forms and shapes. FREEDOM IS YOUR BIRTHRIGHT. How could you not be free? You are formless. Have no location. No attributes. Cannot be pointed to, ever, by no one. You are pure and infinite potential. You are all there is. You cannot possibly be anything else but absolutely free. You are love. You are unity. There is nothing outside of you; there is everything within you. And so is absolute freedom. You can choose to experience it. Give yourself the permission. Use your freedom of choice. Freedom of expression. Freedom to love. Actualization is a never ending process. Do not look at it as a destination or a goal. Enjoy the ride. Keep expanding; look back only with a smile on your face. Again; if you're in this to end anything; you're not choosing the right lenses to look at existence. That is; if you want to experience freedom and life in general. The process of actualization is incredibly fun. Thrilling. Unique to all individuals. It is one of the most beautiful experiences life offers you. Do not be afraid to bite in that juicy fruit. That is precisely why it exists. You deserve to enjoy the gifts of existence. Stop demonizing your own, true, authentic desires to experience the beauties and the pleasures of life. Nothing wrong with those. Nothing wrong with anything at all, ever in existence. Wrong does not exist. Only pure infinite perfection and love. Isn't it wonderful to observe a project as it is becoming actualized? As it is reaching it's highest form of expression? Isn't it beautiful to recognize your reflection in your expression; in your project? Isn't that whole process the most fulfilling thing in existence? Yes it is. You know you love what you see. Don't be afraid to declare it loudly and proudly, for all to hear. Love is not ashamed of itself. Nor is it afraid of itself. Do not view actualization as an end. There are no ends. There are perfect expressions. And an infinite amount of them. Once you've finished one project and marveled at it's beauty for a while; guess what? You start a new one. You move on with expressing your infinitude. You keep on doing what you love with burning passion. There are no ends. Only progress. Constant upgrades. Eternal expansion. Infinite expressions and perceptions of those. Consciousness. There are no destinations. There are stations. There are stages, processes of evolution; of awakening. And they never truly end. They express themselves, for themselves; eternally. Your life is a project, too. So is your character. Your imaginary ego. Your goals and visions. All a part of project Y O U. And that is an expression. Each expression can be actualized; crystallized. But nothing really ends, ever. Nothing has never even begun. Enjoy the process. Drop the need for destinations. Drop the need for safety nets. Just let go. Travel at the speed of light. Dive in deep. Make love, create, expand; forever. Do that for the sake of doing just that. For nothing, for nobody. Free yourself from all chains. The last thing that grows out on a fruit tree ... is the fruit itself. Patience. Steadiness. Dedication. Integration. Will; which is free and there for you to use it. All of these are important when it comes to actualization. And all of them are within you; waiting to be recognized and used, right here, right now. All you have to do is recognize and align. You have the power. Don't use it for what you do not desire to experience. Align it with your highest intention. Everything will run smoothly. All the knowledge you gained, the insights you had, the perspectives through which you were gazing at the Truth, the realizations you had, the miracles you witnessed... All of those have been preparing you for this one precise moment. Right now. For LIFE. For awakened being. That is why life exists. That is why you exist as an inseparable part of it. Integration is a process, as well. A part of the ongoing actualization. It is a necessary piece of the puzzle. Without integration; none of your insights matter. Nor does your knowledge; hidden from all eyes. Nor do the high perspectives you look through at the the world. All of those are meant to be shared with your heart wide open. Once all of that is integrated and embodied naturally and effortlessly; without a need for a single thought; the expression is actualized. It is crystallized. It is real. Authentic. Actual. Eternal. And it is also the definition of pure perfection and beauty. Enjoy the process of growth. Admire the expression that is coming to life right before your eyes. Love your every move. That is ultimate freedom. That is what living a fulfilling, loving, enlightening life really is. Give freedom to yourself. No one else will. Love.

I think Leo's answer is correct. I've listened to hours of Tolle, read all his books and he has said similar things multiple times and never refers to spiritually awakened people abusing drugs but rather the general population. However, I also wonder about how Alan Watts drank himself to death. Most of us can only be awake in the moment, permanent awakening is after all only a concept of the mind and awakening in its essence is not of the mind so the two cannot meet. You can definitely be both awakened and addicted. If you are the universe and the universe contains addicted people, you're also addicted yourself.

@traveler Maybe he means people who has started to awaken but are not "fully" awakened yet. I got very sensitive to peoples energies at first. I got very emotional and it was just a tough time to deal with people in general. I wouldn't be surprised if people that is dealing with the same thing might use alcohol or other drugs to dampen the senses.

@traveler No, because I'm not enlightened. But I can suspect that because the person the person needs some personal work to do. Enlightenment is just knowing what you are, absolutely. It seems that people that are enlightened suffer less, so taking drugs might be an uncommon phenomenon for awakened people. Anyways, Osho was addicted, Nisargadatta was a smoker, Alan Watts was an alcoholic.

Attempt at a Crushed Analysis in reclaiming our 'Red' energy. Awakened Conscience is not the same as Acquired Conscience with its ideas of morality which changes from culture to culture. We need all our energy for doing Inquiry. This means becoming Boss/manager of our sex energy. A sign that your not boss is if you feel shame connected with any part of your sex life. Which is a sign of active super ego. Super ego is directly in the way for nearly everyone in reaching and hearing the voice of Conscience, ironically. Super ego is the internal critical voice of our caregivers, usually one parent,, more than another. Religious upbringing with a lot of shame really adds to this conditioning in us in a way that's difficult to get free of as adults. Overcoming super ego involves processing and integrating any shadow in our sex life responsible for shame. Overcoming super ego means befriending our Parents at a higher level than the permanent part time child who was still under the control of the super ego. An enormous amount of vital energy and attention is then reclaimed. This is often times considered one of the first things to go after in Inquiry and work on self. How do we reach Awakened Conscience? By processing repressed negativity AND integration of shadow in becoming shameless boss/manager of one's sex energy, as a starter. Any traumas or humiliations need to have observational light put on them and eventually sorted out. Only for yourself. A part of this process is you decide what's right for you with your feelings, and not with your inner critic. Our heart helps us connect with the intelligence of Conscience when we become completely sincere and curious. We all have repressed negativity. We can do pretty good while sitting in a peaceful environment but if someone hits us in the face with a shovel, things go to a different level of difficulty. It seems women catch a double dose of conditioning apart from super ego in the automatic judgements and dictates of the cultural ego, most of which is born out of Patriarchal notions. Men have their uphill battle too in having on average at least 10 times the amount of testosterone than women. One reason why men are often just a slave to their penis. Expressing negative emotions rob energy in general. Shame, specifically robs vital energy in dividing us against ourselves.

@Shakazulu I wouldn't say the insights are more profound. I would say there is an expansion of the profoundness. This is an analogy appearing in my mind space now. Imagine a diamond that has many facets. For one's whole life, they were unaware of the diamond. The first look at the diamond is of just one facet. So one becomes aware of that one facet, yet still unaware of the whole diamond. Yet that first good at just the facet is extremely profound. It's the first time you've ever seen it. It could change the way one looks at life. It could open a door to something previously unimaginable. So now imagine re-visiting that same facet over and over. It may start to become obvious and ordinary. One may think "why can't most people see this facet? It's so obvious". The mind may assume that "this is it" and "I have awakened". After time, another facet may be revealed and it is ground shaking. "Omg!! There is another facet!!". You had assumed this was it, and now this whole new facet revealed itself. It is unique from the first facet. You see how the two facets are inter-connected. It is deeply profound and can again change the way one looks at life. Now imagine this cycle continuing with a third, fourth and fifth facet, leading to a more holistic view. Is the revelation of any one facet more profound than the other? I'd say they are each special, yet I don't think I would rank them in terms of how profound they are. As well, I would say that as more facets are revealed there is a spiritual maturity that develops and a more holistic experience and understanding arises. Ime, yoga and meditation are essential to integrate psychedelic lessons. When I first started using psychedelics, I skimped on the yoga / meditation and just tried to hit home runs with psychedelics. I had practiced meditation for over 20 years and thought I was good in this area and it wasn't so important anymore. This eventually caught up with me. Things got unstable and unsustainable and I had to slow down. Ime, integrating psychedelics doesn't necessarily make the insights more profound, yet it is really important for observing contextualization patterns, seeing bigger pictures and developing spiritual maturity.

This thread is dumb. One guy says, "Look at this person who used psychedelics in a really extreme way and is having hella ego backlash. This obviously means that all psychedelic use is bad!" Then other people who are like, "You are not awakened." "No, I'm more awake than you." "No I am!" Can we all just take a more nuanced approach for God's sake? Psychedelics totally work. You only have to take them and experience them for yourself to see that they do. However, their effects (just like other spiritual technologies) can come on very fast if you're too extreme with them, and your ego might not be able to integrate what you experienced in that case. But this isn't unique to psychedelics. This happened to a friend of mine who was using several spiritual technologies at once (none of them psychedelic at the time) and had a very intense, even traumatizing experience that still marks him to this day. His ego was not prepared. You don't have to use psychedelics to work on your spiritual growth, but they are an option, especially if you're someone who has trouble getting into certain states, and without an entheogen you may have never even known what was possible. I think people are just biased against them because they are "artificial," but that's just a concept, a social construct. Whether you're meditating or taking mushrooms or whatever, it's all part of one singular reality. The mushrooms, or 5-MEO, or LSD or whatever are just as much a part of your brain as your brain is.

@Jack River no idea is an idea to most people unless they have awakened. I don’t understand why you aren’t getting that. It’s a bit odd.

When you say you have awakened a few years ago my intuition feels a bit of superiority in those words, awakening is finding your true nature, and finding your true nature is the realization we are all one, so no need for superiority. Ive been taking psychedelics for a while now, and IMO Martin seems to be going through an awakening, his body is trying to catch up with the evolution of his spirit (or whatever you wanna call it) Matt kahn said once that all sickness is the body saying it needs time to integrate whatever is going on within. Unless we are fully awaken the devil is within each of us, let’s get comfortable with our dark side. Like Shakespeare said “Hell is empty, and all the devils are here”

@Shin Everyone sees things from their worldview and everyone has false convictions but I do have a decent amount of circumstantial and personal experience I base my claims on. & your right. I’m vastly different than I was when I awakened a few years ago, and still have quite a bit of work left.

@Arhattobe Im not drawing any conclusions but I do see a possibility that Martin might have had an awakening experience rushed on by psychedlics, one he was not ready for. Like in many cases psychedilcs can be a catalyst of stuff. If that would be the case then he might experience no sleep like if he was awakened but he is not so he suffers from it. Just an idea to contribute to the topic and I dont think its ridiculous Please explain why its ridiculous, Im not very far down my awakening path and you say you are so you might know better. Please enlighten me

Rupert spiras beautiful video on how he never sleeps in the same way as "normal people": But from my own experiences with psychedilcs im leaning towards @Arhattobe idea. I do think an unawakened mind interpret psychedelic experiences and twists them.... Really interested to hear your experiences with psychedelics. especially if you have had them earlier in life when not awakened and the difference?

@Leo Gura I awakened without psychedelics, then did psychedelics and understand the affects in can have on ones system. Equating Martin balls awakening to other awakenings eg adyashantis and others. Simply comes from a lack of understanding, and information. His clearly stands out and is way less stable and sane in many ways. Awakening might be a radical process but there is no reason to make it more radical to the point of frying ones system and possibly losing one’s sanity. A balanced approach is always best.

Hello everyone. Recently I started diving more into this guy. He is from my country. If I ever got the chance to meet him, I am sure we would have a nice chat. When I looked up some stuff about him, I learnt a few things: - It turns out that the guy wrote a book about how you can become an ''iceman'' - He meditates, although I will admit that I forgot what type of meditation he does - The guy is incredibly focussed on energy within and love - He can play guitar really well OK this is all fun and stuff, but the guy is also in the example list of stage Turquoise along with people like Osho and Ramaji. So how conscious, enlightened, awakened and/or spiritual is he exactly? Does anyone know this? I am considering to buy his book and actually do his breathing methods, but I don't know if it would be safe to that while I still am very young.

Where ever you go, you will take your mind with you. If it's causing you problems here, it will continue there. Do it (whatever that is for you- self inquiry, meditation, etc), right here, right now. Ppl like Ramana were already awakened/ Self realized when he went to the cave to assimilate the Self-knowledge and let any remaining binding desires/fears melt away. But, this is not the path for everyone.

@George Filokay sorry I’m defining human conversation as being part of the simple things. When we see through the noise of language there a deeper intimate connection to have...it’s hard to appreciate this, it takes a step back from our own identity maybe you have or haven’t awakened but it’s going to be a journey integrating yourself. 0 expectations and 0 judgement because you understand where other people are coming from...once this is realized and understood by the other they will open up and you may actually be able pursue expanding their perspective toward “your” interests. However in either case it’s joy you experience from the deeper connections we make that can NEVER BE BORING

@Jack River it would not @Serotoninluv i only know how to love through the interconnectedness of things; are there other ways in which i can get in tune with love? i have pretty much awakened on the level of mind , but my heart is still lacking loads! any ideas how i can improve this? do i look at something and say i love you i.e to my chair

@Epsilon_The_Imperial spot on mate, but just one thing though, you cannot deny that once you awoke to nonduality that your system is going through shifts that will uncontract your experience so that it will fully embody nonduality, because you arent truly nondual if you still experience fear yes? i understand that ultimately everything is one and the universe is always nondual,but as a being, you experience duality, because god contracted itself so that variety of experience arises, through fear mechanisms which create the different urges that humans have. awakening to nonduality is only the beginning, after a few years you will see what i mean by this process, your life experience will harmonize slowly but surely into full nonduality, to which you have awakened to truth, but not the full embodimient of it. but dont attach to experiences most important thing, the full thing cannot be percieved until the ego truly dies. holding on to concepts such as the ego doesnt exist and not being congruent to your experience will just backfire on you and isnt conductive to the full process of awakening. I suggest you read some of shunryu suzuki's work, he is a zen master which i highly recommend tbh.

its like sadghuru said; you only need 1% of the world to become awakened and you would see massive results in change in peoples behaviour@Key Elements

@ivankiss may you be blessed too. May we all be blessed. I figured that's how it works in this world. If one human being is awakened, this person will try his/her best to pass on the info to bring peace. It's a ripple effect. One does not actually need to experience what's it like to be awakened, but it helps a lot to refer to such a wisdom.

Not a question,but showing a perspective that may have been missed in interpreting Leo's "you cease to exist" to your interpretation of it meaning "To suggest, it is unachievable, except by death," is a callous leap of faith" , as meaning actual physical death. I took his meaning to be that in which I replied above. That one who has not awakened may "feel as if dying" when that sense of ones presupposed self that was always "known" to be "me/I", is shown to be false.

YOUR TRUE NATURAL STATE = the body of water. totally at peace. in bliss and joy. Then a fish jumps out of the water. The fish jumps out of the water and lands on the riverbank. It flips and flops as it suffers... It longs to return back to the water. Another fish also jumps out, lands at the riverbank... flips and flops and then eventually goes back into the water. There are many fishes which have jumped out of the water, they flip and flop and make their way back to the water or die while trying and suffering at the riverbank. The fishes are your thoughts. All desires/projections/questions you ask are fishes jumping on the riverbank... and until that question is answered, or desire is had or a fear is overcome, the fish remains at the riverbank... suffering... you are not at peace. you have an itch. when you ask how do i get enlightened or how will i have an awakening - you are jumping out of the water and you suffer in the search for the answer... the answer is the water! jump back into the water and stay there. while in the water, realize that you are already where you need to be. that is enlightenment. that is awakening. that is the pathless path of ignorance. when the ego/mind is told to be still and remain calm and remain silent. it does not get it that the peace and silence is a simple ordinary experience. that is happiness. the end of the activity of the mind. asking questions about it... like how will that help me get awakened or enlightened is another fish jumping out of the water... you cannot be awakened/be at peace until all of your fish are back in the water. and remain there. now fishes still may will jump out of the water even after you get this. however, you will then know that you are water, which is at peace, in bliss, in happiness. you will simply watch the fish as you watch the clouds in the sky until the fish jumps back into the water you will not suffer from it's suffering because you are no longer identified or giving weight to the thought/question idea. rest in your INNER PEACE <3

You come under the law of karma […] when you believe you're not awakened, you're not free, you're not liberated when you react to person, place or thing. […] I know there are many people in Advaita Vedanta who tell me, "Well you know Robert karma does not exist. Only the Self exists. Only effortless pure awareness exists. So why are you telling us about karma?" In truth you have to look at yourself and ask yourself, "Have I experienced pure awareness? Have I experienced absolute reality? I can't afford to put on an act. It will only go against me." […] So while we're on the path to liberation we have to be very careful what we do with our lives. Every little thing is karmic. It is only when you awaken, when you are liberated that none of this exists. This is why I tell you so often, "Do not fool yourself." Look at how many times a day you become angry. You feel cheated, you feel exploited. You feel something is wrong someplace. You feel depressed. You go and do something to cause this condition to stop and whatever you do you're accruing karma. There is only one way to overcome this. And that is to forget about the world, forget about your body, forget about situations and go deep within yourself inquiring, "To whom does this come? Who is experiencing karma?" […] Karma seems to be real and you're affected with it all day long. Whatever you do, wherever you go you're always affected by karma. It is karma that moves your body. It is karma that makes you do things. It is karma that causes situations to come into your life. Do not try to change a condition. Do not intend to change the situation. For you may appear to change it but this is only an appearance. It will come back again in full force. There is only one way to get rid of it and that is to transcend it by forgiveness, mercy and love. And as you practice forgiveness, mercy and love you inquire, "To whom all this is coming to? Who is experiencing these things? Who is going through all these things?" And again you will discover the I-thought, "I am. I am going through all of these things. I appear to be going through karma. I appear to be suffering. I appear to want to get even with someone." You're beginning to realize it's not you. It is the I. Which is only a thought. Just knowing this alone makes you feel good. For you begin to see that you are free. You are bright and shining. You are sat-chit-ananda, nirvana, ultimate oneness. . It is the I that appears to have the problems. You separate yourself from the I, by self-inquiry. And then you can go further by inquiring, "Where did the I come from?" You never answer that question. By inquiring that is sufficient. And you will find that you're in the silence, the void. Just by going this far you will feel better than you've felt in years. You will feel such joy and such peace. This has nothing to do with enlightenment. But you're going to feel joy and peace. More so than you ever felt before. Just by inquiring, "Where does the I come from?" The reason that you feel such joy and peace is because you begin to realize that you are not the I. You have absolutely nothing to do with the problems of the I. It is the I that feels anger. It is the I that feels pain. It is the I that feels rejection. But you ask yourself, "What have I got to do with I? I have absolutely nothing to do with the I." Therefore again you ask, "Then where did the I come from? Who gave it birth? What is its source?" And you keep quiet. A feeling of total love will overpower you. For you're learning to sit in the silence. . That's the most important point. You want to get to the place where thoughts do not bother you, where things do not annoy you. Where there are no problems and there are no solutions. Where there is no good and there's no bad. You want to get beyond duality and rest in the silence. Many of you are getting a glimpse of what I'm talking about right now, as you rest in the silence. You're not thinking about it, you're not trying to analyze it, you're not trying to make it happen, you're just resting in the silence. Perfectly still. All of a sudden thoughts come up again. You start over again. You begin again. You inquire, "To whom do these thoughts come? Who is thinking these thoughts? I am? If I is thinking these thoughts then it has absolutely nothing to do with me. It appears to me as if everything is attached to the I. All of the emotions, the fears, the frustrations, it's all attached to the I." Again you say, "Where did the I come from? What is the source of I? Who gave it birth?" You never attempt to answer. You sit in the silence. . Some of you are beginning to feel how good it is to sit in the silence right now. The mind is completely empty. The fears are gone. There is nothing left to tell you anything. You are quiet, still. Thoughts pop up again. It makes no difference if they're good thoughts, bad thoughts or in-between. The whole idea is to empty the mind of all thoughts. You inquire again, "Who is thinking these thoughts? I am? Who am I? What is the source of I? Who gave it birth? Where does this I come from that is giving me all this trouble and keeps thinking and thinking? And bringing up to me all these morbid thoughts, all sorts of happy thoughts, all sorts of thoughts. Where did this I come from? What is its source?" And again you enter the silence. Where everything is totally still. Where there is no movement. The vasanas have disappeared. There is just perfect stillness. You're beginning to discover something very interesting. You're beginning to discover that you´re able to sit in the silence for longer and longer periods without thought. It's taking longer and longer before a thought comes to you. . Yet you are not falling asleep. You're feeling a peace that you've never felt before. You're beginning to feel an all encompassing love. You begin to experience that the whole universe is an emanation of your own mind. And what you have done is you have pulled the entire universe into your heart, everything! All of the galaxies, the milky ways, the planets, the earth with all of it's manifestations, everything has vanished. That's total silence. […] […] When you're sitting in the silence and the world is still available to you that is not silence. That's a false silence. The true silence is when the whole world, the whole universe, people, places and things have all disappeared. You have pulled them back into the heart centre. That is the true silence. For there is no longer anything to think about. Everything is gone. There is just the void. The beautiful precious void. And you're beginning to sit in that void, in that silence for longer and longer periods. When you come out of it the world appears to you again but it's different. It begins to be different for you. You no longer look at the world in the same way. You no longer see the universe in the same way. You begin to feel everything as an image. You see images on the screen of life. The images keep changing, changing, changing but the screen is always the same. And something begins to tell you that you are that screen. You have always been the screen. Unchanging, absolute pure reality. . But you are not free yet. This comes and it goes. Little by little the thoughts come back again. You begin to feel anger again but less than you did before. You begin to have less interest in your body. The things about your body that used to bother you stop bothering you, stop annoying you. People no longer make you angry or frustrated. This happens little by little. And you can't wait to practice again. When you are by yourself and you're not disturbed you sit down in your favorite chair and you begin to inquire, "To whom do these thoughts come? Why they come to me. I still feel thoughts. Maybe less than I did before but I still feel things," you further inquire, "who is the I that feels these things? Where did the I come from? Who gave birth to this feeling I? What is its source?" And now you begin to feel that the I is only a thought. It is one of the thoughts that you've been thinking about all these years called the I-thought. Yet everything is attached to it and you keep seeing it and thinking about it. But now you're inquiring, "To whom does it come? Who's feeling it? What is its source?" . And you go back into the silence. Now every time you get into the silence you feel better and better. You feel lighter and lighter. The world again, the universe they're getting sucked into your heart. The whole universe has gone. All existence has disappeared. Including yourself. There is nothing but the silence. (long silence) (...) Om ... shanti, shanti, shanti, peace. -- Robert Adams, T136: The True Silence

No.,,,,,,? Gurdjieff wasn't a Vegan. Which doesn't matter either way to me. He was just practical. Aquired Conscience juxtaposed with awakened Conscience. Aquired Conscience changes from culture to culture. It's mostly self contradictory moralistic flimsiness implanted by conditioning. Aquired Conscience makes one a slave to group think. This is how people are made into little zombies unable and unwilling to think for themselves. Awakened Conscience is the same in all people, when accessed. It is the small, still voice within which nondual realized Beings access for what's necessary in the moment. Aquired Conscience is the voice of the super ego and the shackles used by religion and culture. Eating the flesh of other beings DOES make people less sensitive and more violent. Vegans and Vegetarians with an unawakened Conscience are often self righteous and piled full of self conflict, negativity and violence in their judgements of others. Just like the ignorant rednecks who ridicule Vegitarians as "snowflakes".

Being in the presence of an awakened individual with strong magnetism - transmission helps.