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@Omario Commit ego suicide. Look in a mirror (optional) and say to yourself "Everything I've held true about myself since the day I was born has been a lie". Can tell you from experiance that will give you an ego death. Tried it a few times and nothing happened at first so almost gave up. Gave it one more honest try. Caution: It's a real foundation shaker to the physiological self.

If one seeks the end of seeking the seeker seeks it's own end....so, it's seeker suicide so to speak.

Live a life of sheer joy and ecstasy , that is the only way to live. Every other way is only to commit a slow suicide. There is a life to live which is of adventure and not of social conformity. There is a life of meditation. Now start living a life of relaxation, calm and quiet. And you will be surprised, you have been missing life, not because life is worthless. You have been missing life because you have been taught to live a worthless kind of life.

Saying that is rude. This person, at least to me, isn't whining at all. Just stating their claim pretty calmly. @TheSomeBody Even though you stated that you are not depressed your posts to me seem like you are depressed. I believe if someone is thinking of suicide then that person probably has depression. Agree. Have you thought about counselling? Do you have insurance that would cover it? I have a theory on counselling. I believe 1/3 counselors can improve your life in at least a decent way. I believe counselling has a bad rep because those people have gotten unlucky with the 1/3 odds. Even though it is 1/3 you can still go 0/8, for example. I believe almost all counselors try to help and want to help, but I think that counselling is one of the hardest jobs possible to be good at. I hear you. I've been putting in the work and yet where are my results! I am currently reading Arnold Schwarzenegger's autobiography and it has been very inspiration to me. Like you, I struggle with finding meaning in doing anything. This book has been helping me fight that. This sounds really great on paper. You are not the first person I have read type this. The thing is I have yet to read someone explain why this is and be able to relate that to the person who feels the opposite.

One of my posts was deleted without an explanation. I messaged two moderators. One of them said he deleted my post because the title of my post was likely to trigger suicidal people to commit suicide with guns.

My best friend of 10 years just committed suicide and I'm having trouble processing it.

if you are referring to suicide, this is the opposite of which you seek, it would mean to forfeit the journey you have already made so much progress on. it is an act of senseless violence that causes nothing but despair. not only that, it would set humanity back and add to the tragedy and misery that impede the growth of many. this i have seen firsthand on far too many accounts. the preparations have already been made if it is a practice or task you are looking for... it is coming to terms with or realizing these preparations via expansion of awareness and being the appropriate approach to take is completely up to you and what fits your situation, there are many directions at that, most of which involve the cultivation of mindfulness. you are in the right place. just know you are already on the path ṅ̠̦͓͖̝͓͇̙͇̓ͨ͌͐ͭa̰͈̲̖̱͖͗͗̓͂̑̋̃̅̋͑͛̈́̔͐͋͑̑̚̚m̜͙̹̲͉̜͉̹͎͔̼̬̯̪̣̑̆ͮͯ̽͐̍͊ͮ͊͒ͅͅa̦͖͚̖̺̲̯̲͋ͭ̿̚ṣ̮͙͇̹̖̲̳̞͉͎͕͖̅̐̃́̄̀̓ͩͧ̎͒͋ͬ͐̿́̓͛͗t̺̦͇͉͇͚̖͆́ͩ̆ͨ̿̄͆ͫͣe̤̥̘̲̺̳̫̲͔̫̻̺̱̺̯ͯ̇̀̊̔ͬͤͧ͊̔ͦͪ - yawning gap

Hi, @Strikr! Thank you for your answer. I hope you get better of your ADHD. Maybe meditation can help you. Recently, I lost my best friend (he attempted suicide) and I cried a lot. When my dog died around 1 year ago, I also cried. Maybe I'm too sensitive. I think drugs are good when used the right way. Nowadays, psychiatrists put people on high amount of drugs with no reason. I'm tapering off antipsychotics because I think I don't need them anymore, but, if I have a psychotic crisis again, I will take it (but probably with a low dose). The idea that no one can understand me makes sense. As Leo says, we're alone.

Hi, @stevegan928! I feel your pain and I'm sorry for it. My best friend also attempted suicide around two weeks ago. It made me really sad and I still cry because of him. I didn't believe it in the beginning. Maybe you're thinking: "why he didn't tell me nothing?" or "why he didn't try to reach me out?". I think we'll never understand it and we can't predict what people will do. Stay connected with your feelings and be with trusted people. I hope the best for you.

Well, don't get crazy thoughts like suicide. This is going to pass, friend.

Yes there is, at least from my perspective. My theory is that everything is energy (because all matter is energy according to E=mc^2, but not all energy is matter [such as sounds and weaves]). Therefore there is no "I", we are just energy; there is no difference between the outside and the inside. There is no duality, all is one. This coincides with the animist idea that there is a soul in everything, not just in humans; and with the Christian idea that God is everywhere (omnipresence), that we are God (which is why they forbide suicide, because killing ourselves would mean killing God). Enlightenment is where spirituality and philosophy overlap; Enlightenment is an experience which can't be explained with language, because it shows to the fullest extent that all is one, and instead language is used to categorize, create duality, define something as different from something else, and such. Can you see how I went from a purely philosophical/metaphisical idea (e.g. "we are all matter"), to a completely spiritual one (e.g. "all is one, it can't be expressed with words")?

@Robert use systems thinking to solve the problem of homelessness even make that your life purpose The over-arching life purpose of much of my thinking would be under the umbrella of "reducing human suffering, inside and out" which I have observed is a very common realization many of us share. I can come up with the most brilliant practical solutions to many of the world's problems, some of I am sure taking small action, or sharing the ideas with certain people can have profound butterfly effects. But with the urban street homeless issue, it's all just theoretical musings. I can clearly see how things like immigration enforcement, safety nets of basic living provisions, forced detox programs, prefabricated mini-houses, Gulags, assisted suicide, public nuisance ordinances, funding mental health services, privatizing public spaces, and many other changes could prevent the issue on one end and solve it on the other. Lot of these are obvious, and most others are brought up in political discussion. But politics itself is the limiting factor here, the pigeonholing of social issues into left and right leaning agendas, and the arbitrary lines between countries, states, counties and cities. I don't want to obsess over this issue, I accept it exists and there is no escaping it. It's actually beneficial to myself and to the world if I don't focus on the negative manifestations of things, better to think positive thoughts and live in a world of shiny happy people than live in fear and disgust towards homeless migration. Why not think bigger instead, addressing the root issue: Fostering awareness of how attitudes like pathological altruism and feel-good-ism, which are responsible for so many band-aid solutions which appear on the surface to be acting from a place of compassion, only lead to more human suffering. Or more broadly, helping the world at large advance into the next stages of consciousness, leading by example.

I can understand your perspective, but I think there are nicer ways to deal with the homeless. Perhaps, some cities learned how to deal with them without violence. Assisted suicide is not necessarily bad. People who suffer terminal illness think assisted suicide should be available for them.

Also an important thing to mention is that euthanizing most of the urban homeless, those who are experiencing constant suffering and realistically have no chance of being anything else but a street bum, actually feels like the most compassionate thing to do in terms of alleviating human suffering. When I walk under a freeway, often choosing to walk out into the street and risk getting hit by cars than go near the homeless encampments, I see all those wretched miserable people there barely even living, rotting away in their own waste, painfully waiting around to die. They would probably kill themselves if they had an opportunity to do it quick and painlessly, assisted suicide programs would be a humane option I suppose. Been talking about this stuff too much and it's getting depressing, got to go clear my mind by looking at pictures of mountians and trees and flowers.

Hey guys, I know this is a topic a lot of people will answer with a lack of connection of those famous people and I consider this an on point fact, but I am interested in debating this topic also from other points of view. It's also more about what those suicides means for our society in general. Let me begin, with claiming that I know that those famous people get special attention. I know there are many ordinary (not famous) people who engage in suicide but I am not aware about those numbers. So let me start. I recently noticed that a lot of famous people encounter suicide and since I liked a few of them I thought about the topic a little bit. For example, the Linkin Park front man, Avici, a german Soccer Goalkeeper years ago etc. I am sure every individual has their own story and good reasons for why the committed suicide, but in general I got to say that those names make me sad. Often times I hear those people did to much drugs and all of this stuff. First question, maybe meditation is the answer, but I want to ask this. Why are drugs, such a big topic in the music industry? I know they have to work a lot, but in the end they are kind of pursuing their life purpose aren't they? So anyways I know a lot of pressure comes with being a famous musician, but still I am always surprised by how many people do drugs whether it are celebs or ordinary people. Society is kind of structured the way, that being a celeb is the ultimate goal. Whether through social media, sports, music or whatever else makes you famous today. What do you guys think about this kind of belief that society shows celeb status as something very attractive for a lot of people? Second big question. I guess a lot of people know the famous quote from Jim Carrey: “I think everybody should get rich and famous and do everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that it’s not the answer.” Famous celebs that earn a lot of money are kind of rushing the system. They can learn from first hand that fame, status and money won't make you happy, why the hell is there no one out there that helps them to get on a path of happiness and fulfillment? I mean those people, they don't have to care about making ends meat, they have time and can afford to learn from the best, so why aren't they committing to a path of growing? I mean after partying and all of this shit they all kind of notice the limitations of that. But it seems to me as if they are unhappy, but try to pursue the stuff that made them unhappy in the first place all over again. So my question would be, why aren't more successful people on the path of growing, but rather involved into drugs and patty shit, even after noticing that it is a sink whole? Thanks for reading help me to grow guys!

@stevegan928 Not sure what suicide is about, but as a generality; a desire for more or a lack of something, which I think are the same. Sorry for your loss, not sure what a person can add.

SOME MUSINGS ON LIFE PURPOSE Life purpose should come from within. Maybe you're you're the one who feels 'at a crossroads and at a looming doom' and you're projecting that 'out there' instead of accepting it 'in here'. Life Purpose is all about solving your biggest life problem for yourself and sharing the fruits of that with others. Do not base your Life Purpose in some kind of compassion for others. First of all, you don't even have compassion for yourself yet. My main point here is, your Life Purpose should be solving some kind of problem for you primarily. That's why you have a super-human motivation to work on Life Purpose. Sustainable Career is then an evolutionary and inevitable fruit of that massive action you'll take working on your Life Purpose -- working on sustainably solving YOUR biggest problem in life. But step one is to make sure you find your genuine Life Purpose. I give you props for asking this question. I don't think you've found your genuine Life Purpose yet. Being a do-gooder is not a sustainable Life Purpose in and for itself. My Life Purpose is to help myself and others accept themselves and reality by optimizing the use of the mind. And that's also my biggest life problem and always has been, see. So, as I'm working on my Life Purpose, I'm also sustainably solving my biggest life problem. That's like putting your Career on the fast-track if there ever was one -- and it doesn't even feel like work. I would pay to do what I do. That's how you wanna feel about your Life Purpose. Find work that you would do where you would pay to do that work. // Charles Bukowski describes very well what's it's like to work with an authentic Life Purpose: ‘SO YOU WANT TO BE A WRITER’ - by Charles Bukowski if it doesn't come bursting out of you in spite of everything, don't do it. unless it comes unasked out of your heart and your mind and your mouth and your gut, don't do it. if you have to sit for hours staring at your computer screen or hunched over your typewriter searching for words, don't do it. if you're doing it for money or fame, don't do it. if you're doing it because you want women in your bed, don't do it. if you have to sit there and rewrite it again and again, don't do it. if it's hard work just thinking about doing it, don't do it. if you're trying to write like somebody else, forget about it. if you have to wait for it to roar out of you, then wait patiently. if it never does roar out of you, do something else. if you first have to read it to your wife or your girlfriend or your boyfriend or your parents or to anybody at all, you're not ready. don't be like so many writers, don't be like so many thousands of people who call themselves writers, don't be dull and boring and pretentious, don't be consumed with self- love. the libraries of the world have yawned themselves to sleep over your kind. don't add to that. don't do it. unless it comes out of your soul like a rocket, unless being still would drive you to madness or suicide or murder, don't do it. unless the sun inside you is burning your gut, don't do it. when it is truly time, and if you have been chosen, it will do it by itself and it will keep on doing it until you die or it dies in you. there is no other way. and there never was. // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bukowski

I AM BACK!! With a lot of things to tell... but I do not feel like writing a lot about them so I will tell you shortly in a list: I left "Islam" I do not wear a hijab anymore and my dad was shocked and ignored me first I fell in love with a guy and we were in a relationship for three months I told my mother about this she could not handle it and told it to my dad who could not handle it so they told my uncle and aunt: they are scared that this relationship has no future My "boyfriend" (this is a label and he is human btw) is a little bit older than me and also studying... but with hardships. He is going through a hard phase again when it is not clear, if he can even stay in the country. Now I am confused. We love eachother but I also know that we hurt each other by not letting us go. I could say you can go to a safe country.. He could say I am sorry I tried everything but this is not going to work out. So my parents know, I am aware of the complexity of the drama I somehow created myself. I realized how dysfunctional my relationship with my parents is.. I have the urge to leave them. Sadly I have to stay with them because I have an internship in the city Sometimes I feel so scared because of what I did and what kind of consequenses might follow: my family is disappointed that I made the wrong choices. And in the end I might even be completely alone because my boyfriend has to leave. But then I imagine that I am in a lucid dream and ask myself: Okay, what do I want to do now? I distance myself from the "problem" I could do whatever I want to. I could live without them. I would miss them but I do not need them. Crazy shit. Then I hate myself for thinking that. I think I try to find a solution and since there is none I try to do something against my burning fears that come and go: I do not eat, I smoke sometimes, I cry... Now that I do not believe that "god" tries to test me and this and that life seems so strange and absurd. Why are all these things happening? Because I want to? Okay what else can I do?? Long story short this entry is a "I am back" entry.. I am back to spiritual development.. since I realize the "low-Consciousness" way to deal with my disturbing emotions is not working. Not even suicide comes to my mind. I only want to be more aware and think to myself "okay, now what?" I feel like an "asshole" right now.. maybe I always was one but now I have come to realize... woah.. mindblowing.

If you really play out stage orange to the bone you have two options: 1. Have a paradigm shift into stage green. (Heavy emotional work) 2. Commit suicide. Study the traps of stage orange. They leave you empty on the inside, while you may have the whole world at your feet on the outside. *This post is exaggerated but you get the gist lol*

Law of attraction my ass So, in the middle of July, I've got appendicitis induced by inflammation of other organs from the month before. That was a really narrow opportunity window: has it happened some weeks before or after, I would have to take a gap year and repeat the hardest semester. I also quickly realized that it totally had to happen - just look at all the wishes this situation granted me: legit reason for not working on summer legit reason for breaking the awkward silence between me and my relatives stroking my hypochondria (10 days before operation surgeon told me I was fine huh) stress test to find out if I still can't handle it (well yep) experience of general anesthesia ( this wish appeared after this video lol) experience of prolonged appetite loss - actually that was pretty cool experience of a rapid weight loss smoothie blender food steamer (both basically free of charge) socially acceptable excuse to avoid alcohol (rehab + meds prescribed after) Yeah, thank you universe, now I'm aware that I totally suck at satisfying my needs directly and that I need to fix this asap if I don't want such twisted shit to happen again. Bonus experiences: surgeon yelling at me "Stop crying! Shut up and do yoga, meditation, and Qigong or else I don't know how you gonna handle your life!" 90-year-old blind and sick roommate who constantly reminded me about my future without self-actualization. She talked about her regrets and suicide every now and then and lied in front of me just like this after our interactions with her, I found out I can't come up with any decent affirmations to neutralize this shit. Luckily, I could load my brain with videos like this: a lady from my university who brought me pencils, coloring pages, and baby food - we have such social workers because of bad suicide statistics I guess. That was rather confusing and funny - doctors trying to "make a man" out of me when I expected to be taken care of, and then this mother hen employee of a university where I initially came for "harsh real life and top-notch science bootcamp". when I left the hospital, I was really tempted to not come back for additional painful procedures - I gotta remind myself that I am phenomenal an adult and that I have to endure this to avoid greater complications. I'm pretty proud of myself for going to the clinic the next day - gives me hope that I am capable of similar things in other areas of my life

They dont suicid. They are good people that awakens from the farce of the system and try to change the world. They powerful position as celebs is a threat to the status quo and the elite eliminate them and says in their medias that is a suicide. I know people who study symbolism, numerology and is so clear how Avicci exposed pedophile elites in his videoclips. Some of them are ridiculed like Jim Carrey or kanye treated like fools. Others who fight directy the elites were murdered like Michale Jackson, Prince, Paul Walker, Avcicii. Before some ignorant call me conspiranoic, get informed first. Its sad that you dont know spanish because there is really good info on youtube that isnt already banned.

One of the most famous actresses, Marilyn Monroe, committed suicide. She was at the top of her success and fame when she committed suicide. She had everything to live for, you cannot conceive of more fame, more success, more charisma, more beauty, more health. Everything was there, nothing could be improved upon, and still something was lacking. The inside, the within, was empty, a beautiful woman, but not satisfied, not contented.

@MrDmitriiV You have such an amazing profile picture! I guess you are right, but just because it doesn't make one happy, you don't have to commit suicide right away. I am mean you can pursue other things instead. And I feel like famous people often are not guided enough from the point they are in.

@Leo Kaminski Famous people commit suicide because they realize success and fame doesn't make them happy.

grandiosity and depression. I'm currently reading "The Drama of the Gifted Child" by Alice Miller, which discusses the origins of grandiosity and depression (both of which I had/have). Her theory is this: if the newborn does not receive proper love and mirroring from his mother in the early stages of life, his sense of self will be damaged. He will try to compensate through either an outward yearning for attention (grandiosity) or an inward denial of feelings (depression). Either method results in what John Bradshaw calls "soul murder" - the growing child represses his authentic self and flaunts his false self in order to receive love from his mother and survive the family environment. In the long run, this doesn't work, because the child receives love only for his false self, thus dooming the child to perpetual feelings of emptiness, futility, and frustration - even outside of the family environment. "Why doesn't anybody understand me? Why can't anyone love me for who I truly am?" He asks. The answer is: Because he doesn't understand himself and he doesn't know himself. With this new perspective, I can see my entire childhood through the lens of grandiosity and depression: I tried to be a perfect student with mostly straight A's. Whenever I received bad grades, I went into deep depression. I tried to be the independent one of my family so my parents could focus their time on my older brothers, one of them being autistic. I denied my own need for acknowledgement/love/attention. Nowadays, I crave it so much, but the moment I have it I can't accept it because I've trained myself not to receive it. Depression and loneliness are the end results. I played the therapist role with all of my friends through the school years. I craved being of service, because it made me feel important - a substitute for real love. But the relationships became one-sided, my friends became clingy, and I felt that I wasn't appreciated. Depression and loneliness were the end results. The worst case was in college, when I left my best friend to his own devices, he became mentally ill, I tried to help him, and he ultimately committed suicide. I failed at my therapist role. That sent me into a terrible depression. My pursuit of music was out of grandiosity. I wanted to be the unique, amazing, talented musician. But whenever I received applause, I never felt they were for me. I still feel that way. My video game addiction as a kid was due to grandiosity. I wanted to be the best avatar in every game so I could at least receive surrogate love and admiration. Of course, that never lasts, so I craved it more and more. Growing up, I would have delusions of grandeur. I would daydream about being the hero in a fantasy novel. I would daydream about saving my crush and winning her affection. Nowadays, I daydream about having a kickass life purpose, achieving yoda status, and impacting millions of people. But the reality is, I've been a serial loser, and every time I fail I beat myself up more and more. My attraction to Actualized.org was out of grandiosity. I wanted to be the most successful human being out there. I established my 20,000 different habits, did my daily affirmations, and read my 200 books not for the genuine interest of personal development, but for the pursuit of a sense of self ("actualized person") that would be worthy of love and admiration. My entire pursuit of spirituality was out of grandiosity. I wanted to be the most enlightened motherfucker out there. I meditated and self-enquired my ass off not for the genuine pursuit of Truth, but for the pursuit of a sense of self ("sage") that would be worthy of love and admiration. Eventually, I became so sick of the game, and depression was the end result. Orthorexia - my pursuit of dietary perfection (especially veganism) - was out of grandiosity. I wanted to be the most compassionate, healthiest human being. I did my juice fasts, ate my spirulina and sprouted lentils, followed the gospels of Michael Greger and Robert Morse, followed the rest of the vegan dogma, and secretly shunned the carnists. The truth is, I pursued a superior sense of self ("vegan") worthy of love and admiration. The end results were hair loss, muscle loss, loss of libido, loss of brain power, loss of the ability to form sentences, loss of friends, loss of 25 pounds while already being underweight, and intense depression that forced me to quit my job and go home. My inability to "reach out" to other people is a perfect mix of grandiosity and depression. Grandiosity: "I'm too special and preoccupied with other important matters to reach out to others." Depression: "Nobody's reaching out to me because I'm not lovable." And many, many more. It's getting harder and harder to stay where I am, but I have no idea where else to go, because I don't even know what I want...because I hardly know myself. After all this inner work, I thought I did. But WOW, I really don't. Scary...or exciting?