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Like if I sit at a beautiful tropical beach and meditate myself to death will that be the same as shooting myself in the head? honestly life on earth Is made for animals I don’t belong here lol. I just can’t handle I gotta do this properly if I’ll do it this is like my 10th post about suicide, sorry if it’s getting too repetitive. I’m just really trying to decide here

I had this thought today that I don’t think suicide is such a big of a deal as it’s made to be. We didn’t chose to be birthed and shouldn’t have to stay alive if we don’t want to. Imagine how much suffering could be ended if it was easier to kill oneself, maybe helped medically. Some cases can be very hopeless for the person, so I think getting help to die should be more accessible. But I’m guessing it’s a controversial opinion.

Death is eternal rest . You are still young you haven't gotten yet to experience the nightmare of being old. Once you hit your 60s you will actually find the idea of death and resting in peace very attractive. And the only reason you wont commit suicide is to not hurt those people who love and care about you . But you yourself will be so done with life that literally nothing would matter to you. The more you age the more you accept death and make love with it .it's your ticket to salvation from Samsara.

Recent podcast interviewing Adeptus Psychonautica about the dangers and traps within the spiritual/psychedelic community and the recent developments of actualized.org and the forum. What's really interesting is the host OXSN has his own intimate experience following Leo Gura and even initially defended him when Adeptus made an expose on the Connor Murphy incident. Watch how his journey and close friend's suicide sobered him from his own paradigm and ideology (the details of the suicide were vague as he didn't wish to disclose much; what's revealed is that OXSN did expose his friend to spiritual teachings including those of actualized.org before he ultimately took his own life) Some interesting points within the video: 34:09 "The example I use is like, if you saw a bee, like a buzzy bee but it was not trying to be a bee. It was trying to be a fucking elephant. It would be like 'you fucking bellend', just be a bee, just eat the pollen. Enjoy your life as a bee! Don't pretend to be an elephant, you cannot be an elephant, you're a bee. Be the fucking bee. That's how I feel when I hear all these like, you know, the people who get really obsessed with all the God-Consciousness. And that's not to say there's no value in those thoughts, but the value has got to compile back into a human being. To sit there and go floating about like 'oh, I'm so enlightened, I'm so God-Consciousness' is like, it serves no purpose other than to be like a wanker. But if you could embody that, if you could live your life like, when you come across someone who is like truly spiritual and truly a good person, a true role model: they don't have to tell you how fucking enlightened they are. They don't tell you what a good person they are and how better they because they achieved God-Consciousness. You just know like 'wow, this is a great person'. They don't need to tell you this. So all these people who like beat you over the head with how fucking spiritual they are, I could only assume they don't realize how fucking conterproductive that looks. Because I don't see anything spiritual with, like we say with the sort of 'the Leo Guras' of the world." 50:40 "I've got say, if there's one thing, out of all of Leo's flaws, the one thing I'll pull up on: the guy has like zero compassion and he's so detached from his own experience of a human being that, in my opinion, he doesn't seem to realize the effect he's having on these group of people. So that when he comes out with something really flippant on the forums, or- I'm sure he seems to handle things in his way, and not necessarily had something that's led to what's happened to your friend, but he's answering things in his way with zero understanding and like 'no, these might be people in trouble'. When I've been on the actualized forums, it is an absolute meeting room with very, very definite and very obvious mental issues. There's some serious fucking problems on that forum, and some of the moderators should not be moderating fucking dogshit, in my opinion. But they're all egging each other on and, one of the best descriptions I've ever heard for the kind of behaviors on actualized, which came from one of my friends James Jessal: there's a lot in the way where Leo describes his own activities, which feels like a challenge to the audience. Like 'I did all this 5meO-DMT so it got me here so you should do it'. And the guy will say things like 'you shouldn't do this', but it's a challenge. Like 'if you do this then you get to this level of Consciousness' and 'you just don't understand, you just don't understand, unless you've done it, you just don't understand'. So there's this constant challenging of these very vulnerable, very fragile, very destabilized audience; I just see people's fucking heads explode. Alot of people contact me because they want to talk about that experience. Especially the stuff around solipsism, which to me, it's almost hard to understand how people get so destabilized by that, but whether I get or not, at least I understand that people are going through this. Like people believe in this and they don't necessarily want to believe it. They don't want to believe that their loved ones are figments of their imagination 'but Leo's said it's true so must be true!' It could really fuck people's heads up."

Some suicide cases in the IDF, PTSD. But are they the victims? Well... It's said that Jews were expelled from Muslim countries, and so does Ethan Klein. A deeper look about that: Finkelstein analyzes the two frame questions of Piers Morgan.

YouTube has had a longstanding policy of demonitizing and delisting videos for controversial topics that aren't palatable to advertisers (meaning they're on the site, but they won't show up in your Recommended feed). I've seen vids on topics such as suicide and the Holocaust get delisted. Ever notice a video title with 'N*zi' instead of 'Nazi' in the title? That's that the algorithm at work. Little surprise if Rogan's three hour pow-wow with a rapist who launched a violent coup against our government is deemed 'controversial' by the algorithm.

I have never considered the metaphysics of pedophilia. I do know that societal mores rule, however. If the 'state' of pedophilia is a continuum, I see it as even more problematic for society to get it correct. I had a friend who nearly committed suicide because he was charged with having an 'affair' with a 13-year-old. The child/girl was not pre-pubescent and very promiscuous (the mother was a behavior model). He got caught up with her. He received no jail time but was put on the watch list, etc. I always thought they had married but I found out a few years ago that they didn't but they did subsequent to the charges have a child together. They continued the relationship for more than a few years.

Like from the highest perspective am I killing myself? Lol

Does a female just want sex, love and everything that comes with attention from the male she is with? No, she also wants to torture other males by letting them know that they are fundamentally unable to get her, no matter how superior they become. It is the most natural extension imaginable that some females become cult leaders who can apparently do no wrong. Even if they stalk and harass men who they believe to have autism or are emotionally vulnerable in some way (because they think those are the easiest people to make commit suicide) their followers will justify the behavior.

https://x.com/sultanqaboosuni/status/1848585510626754606 This is her Obituary. It's strange to see people talk about her on instagram and wondering if she committed suicide or not, and whether or not she would go to heaven. It's unfortunate that she was born in such a country, she had a truly beautiful mind, a very rare kind of mind. Which is especially surprising given where she was born and raised. Her family does not know about the reasons and I feel like it is not my place to tell them. Yes, I have been thinking about this, wondering if death is real or not.

I haven’t had a close friend commit suicide. I’d probably just binge watch non duality talks if it happened. "nobody has ever lived, nobody has ever died" Maybe your mind is trying to understand and make sense of the suicide, which is seemingly impossible. Sorry for your loss.

Due to toxic and abusive family. A toxic sibling and a highly toxic & abusive man whom I call "father". 〰️〰️〰️〰️ I am anticipating a nasty situation which I'll really hate. It will happen after few hours and I want to kill myself before that. 〰️〰️〰️〰️ I'm suicidal due to day to day challenges. (shouting, criticising, controlling, rudeness, family toxicity, abuse, headache situations, hassles,.... when forced to do something I hate, controlled by family what to do, where to go...(No autonomy) My so-called family makes me a slave. Sometimes I want to run away but it's as dangerous as suicide. I often say to myself "if this keeps going, I can't live, I don't want to live". When I anticipate a nasty or headache situation, I start thinking that I should kill myself before that situation arises. Because there'll be 1000s of such situations in my lifetime. I had reached very close to killing myself in the past....a few times. When I am on the verge of killing myself, I feel something extremely wrong and drastic is gonna happen, it feels as if this whole reality is gonna collapse. So I hold myself back. (I am not afraid of consuming poison, I am just afraid of making a big mistake, I doubt myself.). 〰️〰️〰️ I have strong desires, commitments and ambitions in life which I don't wanna lose. But at the same time I have a strong desire to escape this suffering. I am desperate. 〰️〰️〰️ I am so angry that I want to murder my abusers but I can't do this because I would be imprisoned for life after that, which would be much worse than suicide. Their toxicity is intolerable. What I am gonna lose when I commit suicide? Will I come back in this human form after death? Is it wrong to commit suicide when your life sucks and it will be so for many many years...? 〰️〰️〰️〰️ Edit : If I choose to live, I will get both pain and pleasure in equal amounts in overall life. Or if I die, I will get nothing. It doesn't matter whether I live or die. So I am in extreme dilemma what should I choose. Sometimes pain overwhelms me , other times the pleasure and beauty of life overwhelm me.

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I get it. Thank you. But they would be devastated by the grief. They are not very strong emotionally. The turmoil in my family would be so much....I can't write. But it's better than suicide. So your advice is good.

I simply cannot resist posting this when there is an active coffee thread up: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/ «Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent» https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html «Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»

I wanna escape. But there're some good people too in my family. This is a moral dilemma. I don't want to leave them in grief. People commit suicide because they are selfish. Everyone is. Even the ones who seem selfless. @Jayson G But running away is always better than committing suicide.

Yes I get it. But some of them are mild suicidal thoughts, you can reject them because you know you won't do it just because of small problems. You'll do it only when problems get big enough. Maybe it's easier said than done. 〰️〰️ Sometimes, even due to small issues I get suicidal thoughts but I quickly reject them because I know I won't commit suicide just because of such small issues. When I have strong suicidal thoughts, it's very hard to reject them.

It’s easier said than done. Suicide is a big step from just thinking about it to committing it, but it starts in the mind..

Also, realize that there's no point in being in the middle. Either choose full life or full death. Because if you know that you will contemplate suicide, and then when you are just about to kill yourself, you retreat back, what's the point of contemplating? Only when you are 100% sure about suicide, you should contemplate it. If you know you WILL live, don't contemplate it. 〰️〰️ I forget this again and again but sometimes I realise this basic common sense.

I contemplate suicide a lot too so I get you.

Do you ever not suffer because of your life situation? Are you doing some "spiritual stuff" and if so what? The ego seems to always look for problems and solutions. But it’s not necessarily that your life could be any different and is the reason for your suffering. CEO’s also suicide themselves even if they are objectively successful and such. Maybe the problem is that there is no problem.

You said this: "I really want to start a new life." Then this is what should do at the first opportunity. Start a new life. Just go. We only have 3 choices in most situations. Change the scenario. Remove yourself from the scenario. Or accept the scenario. If for some reason you chose not to leave...then know we are all in form to learn certain lessons all of which eventually lead to learning how to love unconditionally. What if you turn the tables on your attackers and just express the deepest love that you can muster? No matter what they do? Just respond with forgiveness and love? Would it change the situation? Suicide in not the best answer here.

I have considered them but I have a lot of trauma in my history. So honestly I would be afraid of suicide. I would like to get my vipassana practice better first. I practice vipassana multiple hours a day but still struggle with more intense emotions. I do a range of healing work too, i.e. depth therapy.

This is what you misunderstood. I do have hope and a strong belief that if I lived enough I will do something. I will solve all my problems eventually. I BELIEVE IN MY POTENTIAL. I just sabotage myself and have a hard time focusing and I compulsively overthink. I am not conscious in my day to day life that I am thinking. THERE IS NO LACK OF HOPE. I am just FED UP WITH THE SUFFERING THAT ARISES every now and then. I anticipate 1000 bad events which WILL happen in future. Sometimes my brain resets and I procrastinate on it. But there's always a risk of suicide in my life. I think I am so hardwired for survival that I will come up with some excuse or the other....about not killing myself. I think someone in the Universe is protecting me. Few years back, I was so surprised how something inside me stopped me from committing suicide in the last moment when I was determined to kill myself. (Perhaps I stopped because I had no lethal poison). 〰️〰️〰️〰️ If I was truly hopeless I would have killed myself long ago, no matter how much courage it would take. 〰️〰️〰️ I wanna ask you @Leo Gura when you had a tenacious gut infection and you were suicidal and lost all hope. How did you keep yourself alive? What did you do?