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Hello all, this is serving as a sequel to my previous post. As a refresher, I took 6g of mushrooms, had an awakening experience, and found the whole thing very depressing. I was pretty sure I was crazy. After a few weeks however I have come to realize some more positive aspects of the trip. First, with time I have become more comfortable with my insights. I have heard that many people "forget" the insights after an awakening experience, but this has not been the case for me. Maybe since I didn't have such a fun time initially it has been easier for me to focus on the truth rather than the feeling of awakening. Who knows? (Actually I'm sure a lot of you know, please tell me what you think I would love to hear it). Second, I finally think I have some idea of what it means to raise my consciousness. I think this because, while thinking about life out loud to some friends who would listen, I found myself saying the following phrases: "Humanity can be thought of a single organism that exists across time and space. Specifically it is a self perpetuating, organized, intelligent mass of information that exists in the gene pool and manifests itself as individual human beings." "When we structure our government and think about new economic policies, we need to take in all of reality into account. Any utopian thinker is ignoring some part of reality. The goal is to come up with a system that 1. Works 2. Plans for all the different types of people as much as possible 3. leads to at least a somewhat enjoyable existence for most people. We have problems like poverty/homelessness/inequality because we are not admitting to ourselves that not everyone is the same and we are not taking reality into account" "Actually, we can think of all of life on earth, the entire ecosystem, as a single organism. This is because it's all interdependent, and even though on a small scale organisms will compete with and kill other organisms, the ultimate outcome is that life prevails and continually adapts to the environment." I should make clear that I independently came to these conclusions by merely contemplating what I saw in my environment and studying different societies outside of my own. After saying these things, I was vaguely reminded of spiral dynamics stage Yellow and Turquoise. I looked up some information and I was blown away as it seemed like someone had directly quoted me and written it under the Yellow and Turquoise categories. It was only then that I was really able to accept the spiral dynamics model, and I understood the actual benefit of spirituality. Before, I almost perfectly fit into stage orange, and later stage green categories while not really being able to understand the later stages and thinking that they were merely different, less good ways of thinking than the one I was at then. Now though, I have seen the world in a whole new way that only really made sense after I didn't focus on myself so much and saw the world for what it really was. If I had to put it into words, raising my consciousness was kind of like turning up the field of view slider in a video game. It allowed me to see the utterly incomprehensible, ruthlessly pragmatic, hopelessly complex process of life happening around me for what it was. All of this happened after my big trip, and I don't know if it's something to do with awakening or if it's the mushrooms that have given me the the ability to think this way, but I somehow feel like the awakening and higher-order thinking are connected because both involve admitting truth to yourself and appreciating the whole world, not just one part of it. Right now I am a university student studying Physics and Mathematics. My dream as of late has been to become a physicist just in case I can be one of those few throughout history that is actually worth their skin and comes up with something really valuable rather than just turning the proverbial crank of the scientific method, doing the same thing over and over and pretending like it is going to result in something new. This still seems like the best option to me, but I have also become very interested in sociology, economics, and politics because of my newfound perspective on the world. I am an intellectual at heart, I love playing with ideas. The trouble is I'm a mediocre student at a mediocre university right now so IDK if I will be able to make a career out of it, but I'm going to give it my best shot until the day I can say I have succeeded or completely failed. In the case of failure, I will simply be an armature intellectual! Thank you for reading. I'm excited to hear any thoughts!

Yes, because It's supposed to be the ultimate achievement and also the end of suffering, so people appear who sell it. It's a perfect place for narcissists, who partly believe what they say, but can't stand a profound critique of their mental framework without saying: "You don't understand because you haven't awakened." The issue of enlightenment doesn't have a globally accepted definition, and a consensus is currently emerging that it means identification with consciousness defining it as the screen where change arises.

"I mean, your description doesn't really sound like "enlightenment"." I guess it's just the way I was taught. "Before Enlightenment: Chop wood, carry water. After Enlightenment: Chop wood, carry water." The only difference is after we don't identify with all those emotions. We still have them though. We still have thoughts all day long. Just like the 'Before.' We just don't identify with them after we are done experiencing them. BTW, I think that being "Awakened" is a spiritual fantasy. Rather, it's in the process of being awakened. Because we are all human and we all blunder. I don't think a person can tell if someone is Enlightened or not. A child goes into a daydream and snaps out of it when the lunch bell rings. That day dream is long forgot. That's why I'm proposing that maybe it's more common than we think.

Have you awakened to nothingness? If you have not then you will not understand the point I am making. The closest I can get to proving an example is remember that time when you went into DEEP SLEEP and were no longer aware of your existence? That is what the substance of reality is made of. It's literally made up of that which does not exist. This is what is meant by you do not exist, your true nature is never affected by the world because the world cannot touch it. Your ego gives you the illusion of physicality. Everything is just pure imagination, until you become aware that everything is pure imagination which is literally nothing then you will always be confused about whether something can exist without. NOTHING can exist without you it's literally impossible and how you accomplish that impossibility is you tell yourself you are a human.

Ohhhhh so now you are saying there are two selves? Wait a minute James you are contradicting yourself now Also I don't suffer my life is going very well actually. Also what you don't know is TRUE BEING=DEATH. It doesn't have a self to even have a life. And then it is also LIFE because it is eternal and cannot die. So it is both Life and Death. The problem is you haven't awakened to both aspects, so you can only speak from your limited perspective.

I took 6g of mushrooms. I found out that I imagined the entire universe and then I imagined that I was a random guy in that universe. There are no other conscious beings in the entire universe. I didn't tell this to my friends because because I would basically be telling them they are not real. Mushrooms were fun for me until I took such a big dose. Now it's not fun. People said awakening would be a euphoric experience but it was the opposite for me. I found out that I'm completely alone and will always be alone. The dream will continue dreaming forever and always and there is no stopping it. I considered killing myself but I realized that would probably just end this dream and start a new one (I think). What is right here is all there is, all there ever was, and all there ever can be. A perpetual moment that is reality. I'm asking the dream to help me come to terms with the dream. Don't you guys who have awakened feel alone? Isn't it depressing that reality is a never ending process of duality and I'm completely alone? I'm literally talking to myself right now but how the hell do I come to terms with this and accept this? The dream helped the dream realize what it is before, can it offer more assistance to itself now? Please someone help me.

@Princess ArabiaThey are being fed into my consciousness by God to annoy me. I see it alot more when I first awakened, dozens of them talking for hours per video saying the exact same thing over and over and over. On youtube or the answer you want in my own head.

@DodoHow I would explain that to me was that you were in an awakened state, you saw the interconnectedness and at the same time a deep psychological pattern/archetype in your ego was activated. The archetype for making sacrifices for the higher good. So this was a mix of ego and enlightenment, which can lead to delusional decisions. It is still unbelievable to see how you were not afraid to jump. I mean you were still in reality and knew the consequences. It needs immense force to do that. I am glad you slowly recover from that.

Hello, This post is one of the most interesting post you will see. I'm trying to do the opposite of what actualized.org teaches. I'm trying to quit meditation, I can't. I've tried to lie to myself and follow a belief system , I couldn't. I tried to quit the work several times , but every time I come back to either Actualized.org or Meditating. I'm posting this to ask you how to quit ? and why can't I ? I'm tired of not reaching Awakening, and at the same time being interested in Spirituality. I sit and watch my Breath every day, why do I keep doing it ? I thought like I've chosen this path at conscious will , but it seems now that the path got me in its trap.. I spend everyday at least a while meditating or contemplating about the nature of existence. I don't have problem doing that ,in fact my problem comes entirely from being tied to wasted effort. If I spend this time worrying about my future or my career , wouldn't I be better off ? The problem is I keep coming back to it , I come back to meditating , I observe my thoughts and don't engage with them , i try to contemplate. But at the end I'm not an awakened being , so Why am I wasting all this effort ? Did I choose the path , or did the path choose me ? I don't know. Does anybody suffer from the same problem ? I just want to live like a normal guy , but I can't ! I always come back to meditating , it's a form of addiction to me its embedded to my personality. What do you think my future will be ? Will I reach any kind of spiritual understanding ? Did you ever get stuck like that ? Is this a part of the process ? Sorry for the long rant, I am looking forward to see if someone relates.

@Someone here But that is only revealed to you if you are deeply conscious of it. You have to be awakened right now to know that. We live within the confides of the ego. I am very skeptical of people who say they are awakened because I know how deeply profound and tricky it is You can be in the moment and feel completely calm and present. Blissful. But this is not the same thing as actually being aware that this is the deepest truth. There’s a huge leap there consciously that you’re not considering. You can tell yourself that’s the case and feel good about it and intuit it but again that is not the same thing. A conscious opening has to happen where it actually feels true in your bones and in your soul absolutely. In that moment you are not human. On psychedelics you can get that but with waking consciousness you would have to be mystic. I don’t believe you have that level of awakening

@Inliytened1 I can only say that the path to awakening comes with a heavy price. There’s a lot of suffering and sacrifice. It’s not like I haven’t done a lot of spiritual work because I have. I have never done psychedelics for recreation, only for my own personal and spiritual growth. I have gained a lot from it Leo has said before in one of his videos that he sometimes regrets going so deep into it because once you do the game is up. I don’t know how he feels about this now but this chimes with my thinking that we’re in this world to live life even if it is a dream but walk in the world with one foot grounded in consciousness In terms of the matrix it’s all to a degree. I am not so unconscious that I do not have a connection to the divine through presence and the felt experience. I intuit more deeply life situations however I am not awakened to divine truth in each passing moment. I do get lost in the moment as the majority of people do. There are so few human on the planet that are actually awakened like that. Painfully small. Probably no one on this forum. Maybe just a handful on people

@Carl-Richard it’s not as easy as that though. Yes you’re right but you’re not considering how hard it is to cut through. If it was easy then everyone would be ‘awakened’. I doubt you are as there are so few humans that actually are and if they say they are I’m very skeptical Also just expand on that - so you’re saying death is sleep? Many teachers would say it is in death that you become awake There’s a massive chasm between saying this right now is truth and actually being completely fucking conscious of the truth. One is intellectual another is total and absolute enlightenment. I understand that there are degrees of truth and that you can get closer to it but to be full awakened to it right now. Wow. Just wow

Since I enjoy sharing understanding with You, here is a report of My insanely profound awakening to what I Am. [ EDIT 2023-06-28: Removed file. Some irresponsible stuff inside. Please be careful on your journey & good luck. ] Comprehending this should bring You closer to awakening. This is what You ARE. Try to really understand it in your experience! Obligatory I am not done, my understanding is subject to change, I can be wrong with some things. My direct consciousness was pretty clear, however, so I'm not doubting myself too much. There are some contradictory insights in the report (stuff from the beginning may contradict later stuff) and this is because 1) there is inevitable paradox in Reality and B) my understanding progressed along with the awakening. I recognize right now that I Am God and You are only part of My Dream. And even though only I can be awake because it's just Me, I still hope You awaken to this understanding. I Love You. I welcome your questions and everything else.

So you have no bias towards the Parson's perspective vs Nisargadatta? If so why did you become so defensive when I felt one was awakened and the other was not? You can lash out at me all you want but that was not a normal response that you gave me. Rather then reacting with thoughtful opinions or intelligent feedback you just said. OK thanks boss. But you want to block me.

Like... words not actually describing or being the thing it refers to? This issue of words keeps popping into my contemplations in a most unwanted way... some rather rude thoughts from my morning 'walking the dog contemplation' : The word 'LIGHT' Turn on the light - means illumination This crowbar is light - means not heavy I prefer light colours - pale, not dark I am a light sleeper - means easily awakened Same word - four meanings. The only thing that tells you which is which is the context. So my only derivation is that a word doesn't describe a thing on its own - the context activates the meaning. Words are symbols. Not the actual thing. Meaning is not in the word. So this naturally must mess with experience right? See a tree and instead of sensing bark, smell, sound, light flicker - my brain goes 'tree'. Directness is gone, mystery deleted. And I stop seeing - I think 'tree' and the language effectively stole my true experience. And the 'borrowing context' further minces the pie - associations from past uses of a word dump all over new experiences...

To me, it says that when you are awakened, it is the same life as you were living before. In modern terms: Before Enlightenment: Get up early to go to work. It's a one-hour drive, and traffic is congested. The boss is always grumpy. Only get a 30-minute lunch break. It's a one-hour drive home, and traffic is congested. Greet your wife at home and ask for some loving. She points a finger at you and says, "NO!" After Enlightenment: Get up early to go to work. It's a one-hour drive, and traffic is congested. The boss is always grumpy. Only get a 30-minute lunch break. It's a one-hour drive home, and traffic is congested. Greet your wife at home and ask for some loving. She points a finger at you and says, "NO!" The difference is one's state of consciousness. Before the Enlightenment, the person is carrying around all the emotional baggage from one point to the next. And he is carrying around yesterday's, last week's, last year's crap too. After enlightenment, he isn't carrying anything from one point to the next. James 123 says it above.

I've awakened that there is no difference between the human perspective and God. We only use terms like human, and God because the experience is different. But its the same being there every time. For example I once left my body and went straight to God. I was an infinite mind creating things on the fly. While I was in that state....I still remembered I use to be a human only moments before and my thinking didn't change. All that happened was I was communicating with an Infinite Intelligence, had no freaking body at all ( I was like a camera basically lol just witnessing and communicating telepathically with what was there. At that point I started to feel sad because I thought my like has ended in my 30's and I wanted to complete the human life and as soon as I had that thought....Reality Pixealted itself back into the human life that I had known earlier and I was back being the human version of me again.

Examples such as Osho or Robert Adams. If you want to get an idea of what it feels like to witness Jesus or Buddha then watch Osho & Robert .truly awakened people. Not mentioning Leo because he is still young .Once his beard turns gray then you can add him lol.

@Breakingthewall There's quite a bit of escapism masquerading as truth seeking 'awakened' spirituality, it's not much different than from most religious ideologies and mystical musings. People trying to make sense of life and the human condition with all of its challenges and hardships to find some respite from it all. Many of the things I say may on the surface seem similar to the many 'spiritual' things others talk about but I'm not sure the perspectives are all that similar. I transcend the conditional to abide in well being which is expressed in conscious experience so I can celebrate life through all its twists and turns. Labeling things as 'true or false' and 'real or illusion' has little value for this. It doesn't matter to me if my words or conceptualizations align with others, I just look at the fruit of it. If whatever someone says or believes about it brings well being in their conscious experience, then who am I to say it's 'wrong' or 'bad'. The words or concepts aren't the fruit, what it produces in their inner life and how it expresses is the fruit.

Umm you can....and its not Spiritual ego. If you think thats Spiritual ego...then you are creating a Spiritual ego to be afraid of....which is Spiritual ego. No self is nothing. The other stuff I just mentioned are the other facets of the Universal Mind that you are. If you have not awakened to Absolute Goodness and Perfection then you couldn't even properly understand Morality for example. So there is a ton of integration there to be had. But hey...assume you are the expert here and fall into the very ego you fear. That which you fear you resist, that which resists, persists.

You are right. The idea that an awakened mind is always silent is a false image, an ideal born of thought. However, The observer and the observed are not separate, they are the same movement. And when one recognize this, deeply, not intellectually, the division ends. In that ending, the mind is still and silent. And in that silence, Truth, which is nameless, timeless, comes. One does not seek it. It comes when the mind is utterly quiet. Then, the absolute speaks not as words, but in the language of silence. The Moment. Naturally, Effortlessly.

I guess the "awakening" person practices it over and over. He may go down an emotional rabbit hole and when he snaps out of it the intense emotion lingers on. The "awakening" person would notice this and become puzzled? Why am I hanging on to this anger? Why am I identifying with it? All those other times I didn't. What I do is I write it down and process it. There is a reason it's "sticking." I learn and grow. One just gets good at doing it. I think that the "awakened" person is a spiritual fantasy. We are "awakening."

Have you awakened to the Universal Self? Have you awakened to Absolute Goodness? Have you awakened to Absolute Perfection? Have you awakened to Pure Love? Have you awakened to Absolute Truth? Have you awakened to the fact that you are God? If not...well there ya go.

Go listen to Peter Ralston, but then again you don't really know him personally so it's harder for you to confirm what an embodied awakened being looks and lives like from inside. Maybe it feels like entering the event horizon of your own consciousness when in the presence of an awakened one. I could imagine someone that values Truth over all else. Very blunt but loving. Someone that is an exceptional human being. Basically your question is " who is self actualized"? That's what Leos life purpose is, to actualize, to integrate and transcend, self actualization. Someone that doesn't fuck around with personal development, but takes it seriously And ties everything in a big picture overarching consciousness of God.

You nailed it... And why do you think the awakened one can easily leave it all behind?