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I hope you are joking about the suicide.

It's interesting that we collectively debate over which political or economic systems are the best, without first defining what paradigms we're using to define 'best'. Without addressing this, I think having abstract debates about politics/economics is pretty much pointless, as the fundamental forces that drive our opinions are different. So when it comes to these complex social systems, are you interested in 'fairness' as an end goal? Do you define fairness to be 'equal opportunity' or 'equal outcome'? Is there a point at which 'equal opportunity' will neglect those that need an extra helping hand? Is there a point at which 'equal outcome' can result in disproportionately high investment in certain individuals to the detriment of the collective? Or, are you interested in minimizing suffering? If so, how do we quantify suffering? Also, rather than focusing on how to redistribute resources, shouldn't we be more focused on how to make people happy with less? Isn't the addiction to finding meaning in material resources merely a pointer to our innate obsession with materialism? How much do we really need? Who is richer, the happy street sweeper or the neurotic, anxious multimillionaire on the verge of suicide? Who needs help? Unless the debate around these issues is sorted out, meaningful debates around higher order issues like economics and politics becomes a clash of definitions and obfuscated assumptions.

Of course you can kill yourself and become God whenever you want, no one is stopping it from you (except for people stuck in the dual and who think it is wrong) But still it is not the full answer. Duality is a a gift. It is not as boring as the nondual. That is why God decieved himself and contracted his consciousness into a person, human, or animal so he could escape himself from himself and experience the great beauty and value of a human life, the love, sorrow, hatred, jealousy, strife, suffering, bliss, gratitude of having lived as a human and having loved your loved ones, your spouse, your parents, your mother, although they are not real, but still a momentary escape to that special connection is what God wants. If you experience the non-dual while being in the dual, you can have the best of both worlds, you can have a synergestic effect. Full blown nothingness is a great thing, but living in the junction of the dual and non-dual isn't a bad experience either. And if you kill yourself again not having realized yourself, then chances are you will again decieve yourself and be reborn again into something which you intruth are actually not, and you will be running around in this duality for god knows how long untill slowly you start to question who you really are. The only reason the nondual is sought, is to take a break from the suffering of duality which might be (percieved as) unbearable. It's like in a dream a tiger is about to kill you, and awakening is like "Chill out, this is just a dream". However if you are enjoying this dream (which is the purpose of self deception, suffering is the side effect), then non-dual is useless. If in the dual you feel great because you feel like you are the most smartest, handsomest, talented etc person in the world, then nonduality destroys this dream and you are back to non duality and you go "Wow, I wish this was real. It was such a beautiful dream" Also do you see the connections between, suffering, seeking the nondual and suicide? Why do people commit suicide? To end their suffering. Why do people want a escape to the nondual? To end their suffering. Seeking nondual turns you into a God and ends suffering. Suicide turns you into a God and ends suffering. Non-dual = Suicide (of the dual) Suffering is the side effect of the pleasure of the dual. Arthur Schopenhauer used to say that humans are capable of great suffering because they are capable of great pleasure. While animals or lesser forms (which Schopenhauer calls the brutes, who live only moment to moment, suffer moment to moment and have pleasure moment to moment, contrast to that of human) can have neither or lesser of the 2, their experience is not as intense as that of the human.

Leo himself wrote on this forum that his life purpose changes everyday and he might even decide to commit suicide. He also says death is a good thing and even uploaded this video. He seems fond of death. His eyes glitter with enthusiasm when he talks about death. It's more difficult for a man with strong community bonds to commit suicide.

@outlandish Oh no mate. Its just a cute single little line of thinking, would not call it a theory myself, nor a bold claim. Its based on an impression I got from my empirical observations when I lived in Denmark. Seen a lot of self reported or acted out depression and lack of general life direction. I do not get it here nearly as much, people know what to get away from and that is enough to drive them like crazy. Just an observation mixed in with some biology. Part of that line of thinking was of serotonin being a crucial factor in depression, it is in the lack of it what makes creatures depressed. Sunlight does impact serotonin, but so do societal hierarchies :the more you can climb them and the worse the thing is you need to get away from, the better will you do at generating it. If fair play is present that is, if it is a tyrannical case, you will not. This is for humans, apes and it goes way further than that. its not just based on rats, we have human research and technology that does this, its the anti-depressant pill. @Aeris , and you don't need to death fight over cheese to get conflict. Just observe the greatest impression of the last movie you watched, and notice why you liked it. Conflict, all sorts of it. And conflict is present when things are different and not the same. So in one sense, the most depressed places should be the most tyrannical and the most caring. I also wouldn't call the Nordic countries socialist. I'd say they got a new thing going. A hybrid and I love it. Nor would I compare depression/suicide rates of any countries based on their political/economical systems myself. I think there is way more going on. It may be climate, culture, local genetic factors, geography, or a single overblown self sustaining local meme that leaks into the world. I wouldn't do the comparing it in the case of Scandinavia. They are the only ones on this planet that have that thing going as I am aware. I do not think the rates are reliable anyway, you will always get high suicide rates in the most corrupt countries, you can't let your cousin go to jail, you write that murder off as a suicide, its a common drill. Especially in 3rd or 2nd world countries. I am not disputing the Scandinavian rates here.

This is a cute theory that's often rolled out in different formats, but a good theory should be able to make good predictions, and this one does not. If this one were true, you'd expect that in an experiment where the same country went socialist vs. capitalist, you'd see higher suicide in the socialist country. We have a pretty good experiment in Korea, the south went capitalist democracy and the north went socialist dictatorship. You'd expect N. Korea to have higher suicide rates, however it's S. Korea that has a much higher suicide rate. Of course N. Korea is a horrible dictatorship that censors information, so that figure could be questionable, so let's look at a more reliable example... You could also compare Canada vs. USA, where Canada has a flatter hierarchy, and more socialist society than the USA. You would expect a higher suicide rate in Canada (especially considering the compounding affect of difficult weather!), yet the USA has a 25% higher suicide rate than Canada. (USA: 15.3 suicides per 100k people per year. Canada: 12.5 per 100k people per year.). You could also compare China vs. Japan, This myth of socialism leading to suicide needs to be shot down, over and over, because it truly is a myth that gets repeated all the time as "common sense" without any reference to the actual facts. This myth is often held up an objection to instituting social programs (medical care, education etc.), but it's erroneous.

It's "known" to have a high suicide rate, but this is just an assumption/myth that's passed around without statistical basis. In truth Scandinavia doesn't have a particularly high suicide rate. For example, USA has a higher suicide rate than Sweden, Norway, Iceland and Denmark: http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/suicide-rate-by-country/ The highest suicide rates are currently in Lithuania, Russia, Guyana, and S. Korea. The lowest suicide rates are in the Caribbean.

@Leo Gura Hmm. You've got me thinking, because a huge part of the appeal of Bernie is his actual policies, which would help to ease much of the damage caused by late-stage capitalism. If most of his ideas won't get through the Senate, what would you say he'd be able to do to actually transform US society? Do you envision some sort of "social revolution" instead where the idea that big corporations, politicians, etc. get so harassed by the public dialogue that moving forward it would be impossible for them to act as predatory as they do now without massive backlash? Like how after the Civil Rights movement it went from being OK to be openly racist to being public suicide? Like say, if after Bernie's victory a corporation tries to cut worker's overtime pay, the amount of ill-will this would cause would force them to drop it and keep giving decent overtime benefits? And so on.

I should have added, just do two 20 minute sessions of Centering Prayer Meditation a day. It's a concentrated practice of letting go of thoughts. Besides being an Idiot, my nature has been overburdened with false seriousness and so learning to laugh at everything has been a beneficial practice for me. "Absence of joy is slow suicide." - Ocke de Boer

Flatter hierarchies = lower serotonin = lower life orientation = depression = suicide. Get something for free = lower serotonin = lower life orientation = depression = suicide. The more equatable things are, the less creatures can orient, get depressed and die off, this is not just for humans. They want to know what is high and what is low. So they know what to work towards and not just get it for free. Even rats do. That is how you get a rat depressed. You give him free cheese. Low social inequality , free education, free healthcare, welfare is a very recent development and it hijacks our biology. We are not build for such comfort and care. We are build for conflict. Biologically. And we do not know yet how to deal with the negative effects of this. Also add on-top the Nordic low light conditions and their influence on serotonin and dopamine levels. I think in the past they compensated that with the high striving and conflict they got at those harsh and desolate environments. Also their dairy heavy diet. Now they got the comfort of the high tech houses, free resources + no conflict. You know what that means for vikings, no Valhalla it means . It also makes people susceptible to archetypal forces. Its no wonder that in these highly progressive countries you get this much of far-right ethnocentric and pagan rise. The pull can be strong when you lack direction. I am relay interested in how will all of that be be solved. When they solve this, the rest of the world will get the solution way easier when they get at green. So I bow to that. I know they will pull it off. Green society has its own problems. Just as orange has, just as blue has. I am relay eager to see how will it turn out.

Hi, I was wondering, why there is quite high suicide rates in countries that would be considered to be higher in spiral dynamics? For example scandinavia is quite known to have a high suicide rate? I though maybe, because people don't have to worry about their survival that much, they time to realize their own suffering? Anybody got any insights into this? Thanks

As someone who has high functioning autism, I can say that I used to really close myself off from love (not as a child, but afterwards). However, one of the things that really changed for me was when I watched your “How To Be A Man - Part 2” episode where you talk about owning and accentuating our feminine qualities. I started getting more in touch with that this past year. Just last month, I became friends with a a girl. I can express all my emotions to her and she can really relate to them. We don’t judge each other and accept each other for who we are, but especially the flaws. She even opened up to me about how she is constantly suicidal. She was contemplating suicide one day; the only person she could open up to at that moment was me. Is this one example of love?

@Lynnel I hadn't thought of that, but an annual gun tax might be a great idea. This would keep people from stockpiling weapons they don't use for hunting/sport. That money could then be funneled to mental health, gun training programs, suicide prevention, and helping victims of shootings. It would be a like a gun insurance pool.

@Matt8800 Yeah I have no doubt about that. I have seen objects move infront of me aswell. Two noteworthy times were once at a friend. This friend I have known since kindergarten. She actually made a moonharp in school when we were like 7-8 years old. It's now we look back and laugh at how funny and interesting that is. She has always been very special. Anyway, she had an older brother that commited suicide some years ago. I was at her apartment and she was going out to get the laundry. And she had a thing he had painted on the wall. And it bounced from the wall several times. That was less than a month probably after he had died. Another time I was lying in bed and a pet bottle just started moving infront of my eyes. So I guess a clairvoyant would maybe see the actual entity doing these things, right?

@Gili Trawangan I have gone back and forth with some of the organizer on WhatsApp. The girl was really helpful and nice but I got a light red flag when I told her that I wanted to postpone my retreat due to personal problems ( suicide of a friend and a knee surgery). At this point she started telling me about how these retreats were the panacea and the one and only cure and I got a bit worried. I recognized my tendency in my first years of psychedelic exploration to be a bit too much of an advocate. Anyhow, I ll go this autumn and will keep you posted.

@Serotoninluv Okay then, lets talk about it. What would you like to see done to reduce the number of deaths due to mass shootings. Keep in mind that I was addressing the AR comment by@Socrates and by looking at the stats you posted, you included every murder suicide as a mass shooting and I doubt there were any AR's involved in them. If it is so common sense simple, please explain it to me because, apparently, I'm not that smart. Also, be mindful of the fact that the criminals don't give a crap about what common sense law is, they are cunning.

In regards to the haunting I learned from my mom that the ghost was a woman who owned the House we were in before. She was in a relationship with a married man who after learning that she was pregnant ended the affair. After that break up she committed suicide in the house. She wasn't related to my mother. This made sense to me because of what happened at that night. Prior to the night, I mostly felt a bit hot, nauseous and threw tantrums almost every day. Sometimes I don't feel hungry and eat as much which my mother found strange at the time because of how I really liked to eat lots of fried rice, fried chicken and bala bala. On that night, I woke up half asleep and feeling cold and sweaty. I saw her just standing there, about several meters away from the bed, looking at me. I can't tell how she exactly looks other than she's pale white, longish hair, mostly blurry. I've also felt very sad. I hear her trying to speak but it just sounded gibberish to me but I somehow understood what she wanted: she wants me to come with her. I got up, turned and headed down the stairs in the middle of the dark and told my mom that there's a woman in my room and asked if I could come with her. I won't forget how shocked my mom became. That was the start of the haunting for me. Bringing up the memory still gives me the shakes but not as much. In comparison to what I'm experiencing now is like night and day. I'm seeing her a couple of feet next to me sitting on the bed. If I focus more on that spot I could make out her form and her colors more. She also has personality when she speaks because she can be funny, random and is quite cheerful and light hearted. I noticed that she also can be mischievous and step over boundaries like how she made fun of my mistakes but she behaves most of the time. Do ghosts have a sense of humour? It just doesn't feel right to me to say this girl next to me is a spirit or a ghost. It might be a tulpa as those entities do have human personalities to them, but I'll keep an open mind. Thanks for your information and advice!

In my experience the closest thing I can come to this is when a spiritual entity or spiritual force or energy is making itself more anthropomorphic looking to us so we humans can understand it. Like shiva appears to a Hindu worshipper. Although this I think happens only inside the mind. Or when a human dies in accident or suicide and was supposed to live let's say 78 years. It will then live in the astral realm as only the physical body has died but the other bodies (astral,kama Rupa etc. ) still alive. Until it turns 78 it won't leave the astral realm of the earths atmosphere. But it is usually asleep in a peaceful and helped out. They do try to contact other living family members. Is it a relative? The other is when a human dies its astral shell with thoughts can let itself loose from the soul and sort of lives its own life trying to contact other people while the soul or individual has departed to higher realms, but this astral shell lives only as long the flesh or muscle tissue has not decayed from the skelet. Then of course it can be an advanced living human on earth or an humanoid looking "extra terrestrial" that projects its astral double to talk to you. But this can only happen for very short time and they only do it between their group members Another is angels, or those who have advanced farther than the human realm. But they do not have a trace of personalty in them, but are loving and deeply peaceful. And it is almost impossible to see them as if looking in another dimension (I think) . Then an entity that is done with the physical experience thus without a physical body. Also rare to see. Or like the comment above, it can be a tulpa as thought forms are also living entities. Seek out a good medium and find out.

If You Do These Things, You Are Inviting Ghosts Into Your Home Sunday, 30 Apr, 10.08 am If You Do These Things, You Are Inviting Ghosts Into Your Home Do you believe in ghosts? Do you believe there lay a world beneath ours which is full of negative energy? Whether you believe it or not, we all live around these negative energies which always look for draining out our positive energy by entering into our world. Be it accomplishing their some unfulfilled task or taking revenge from someone, these demonic spirits are always in the opportunity to enter our world. 10 Common Signs Which Show Ghosts Are Living Around You Knowingly or unknowingly, we do many things that attract these demonic powers to our world. Unfortunately, they are attracted to certain places and people for certain reasons. Know what things bring them into your house. Obsession with death Death is something we all never want to think about. It's saddening, it's terrifying but more than anything, it attracts negative energy. A person who is obsessed with death, attract negative energy and demons. If You Don't Believe That Ghosts Exists Then Read This! You Will Believe That Ghosts Are All Around You! Traipsing around a cemetery, performing a séance, visiting haunted places or researching death and murder scenes also attracts demons into your house. Depression/Anxiety If you have been under depression, you know how miserable it makes your life. You lose motivation, you lose happiness and you develop a weak aura about yourself. You Don't Believe in Ghosts Then Go to This Village in India Where Only Ghosts Live, No Humans! When you go through such a phase, you attract more negativity around your including the demons. So next time you feel depressed about yourself, remember you are inviting ghosts. Drug Abuse Drug use doesn't only ruin your life and health but it has way more impact on you. A person who uses drugs on a regular basis opens himself up to demonic attachment. These 11 Pictures That Captured Ghosts Are Sure To Give You Many Sleepless Nights Drugs deplete your physical, mental, and spiritual energy, leaving you weak enough to allow lower level entities to feed on your energy. Performing black magic Diving your head into the world of black magic is one of the sure shot portals to invite demonic spirits into our world. It is a definite way to connect to them and come through their negative energy. Places in India which claim that Ghosts and Spirits exists even they claim to remove the evil spirit And once they enter the world, they create destruction into people's life and everything around them. Dabbling in the Occult You might do it for fun but playing an Ouija board may call demons into your world. Also, simply dabbling in the occult without protecting oneself or knowing what one is doing will attract a demon, for example, playing with an Ouija board, tarot cards or pendulums. Remember, you fun game can lead you to great trouble. Checkout Creepiest Pictures Of Real Ghosts From The Most Terrifying Plays Of 1940s Apart from these reasons, demons are attracted to various places for certain reasons. Click next slide to know things that attract demons to a place. Murder/Suicide You might have seen in various horror movies that the reason behind the house being haunted is the death of a person. Any form of violent death that has occurred in a particular place will generate enough negative energy to possibly attract negative energy beings. Toowoomba, Australia's Most Haunted Place Where Ghosts Hover Freely in the Town Sometimes the person died in the house, may take a control over the house. Multiple deaths Negative entities feed on negative energy and the place which has seen a number of deaths has the great amount of negative energy. Ghosts exist around us and even they can kill humans, Death of Gaurav Tiwari proves that, read you will believe in Ghosts Such a place would definitely call demonic powers into our world and can even become home for them. This is apparently the reason old houses and monuments are haunted. Black magic Any place that has been used in black magic rituals of any kind is an open door for negative beings to come through and potentially linger. If a group of people participated in these rituals, it is even more of a magnet for demonic powers. In this sweet shop in Ajmer (Rajasthan), ghosts come in the night to make sweets and it is true Performing such rituals is a great way for them to enter our world and drain out our energies. Recurrent negativity As said earlier, negative energy attract demonic entities from the lower level. The place where people with negative energy live can attract ghosts and spirits. Don't Believe in Ghosts ? These 11 Pictures Will Make You Believe In Its Existence & Give You Sleepless Nights If the negativity is strong enough and lasts long enough, can generate enough energy to draw the attention of negative entities.

Hello everyone, I just wanted to share this with everyone. I'm a 22-year old I'm about to turn 23 next month. I just got diagnosed with thyroid cancer. They are not sure how bad it is yet but I will have to surgery and take medication for the rest of my life. I've been following Actualized.Org since I turned 19 and it has really helped me transform my life and heal. I was bullied at school for being gay and overweight. When I turned 18 I tried to commit suicide. When I got to college Leo helped me find the drive to live and keep going. Now, I'm working hard to express my passions of spirituality and music. Although this has been stressful I feel oddly at peace and have more faith in the universe than I ever have had. I feel as though this has been the best gift I have ever been given. I feel more alive and loving than I have ever felt. Everything I thought I knew has been destroyed this year and now all I have is love. So, again I just want to give thanks to Actualized.Org and everyone else who has helped me along this path. I'm still young and have to learn about the world but I am eternally grateful for everything. I started my own youtube channel talking about spirituality which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-IaMB7vbrsrRMRH396eozw You can also check out some of my music here:

@Keyhole i think that is a bit much saying i need to commit suicide. I never meant to offend anyone. Anyway this is pretty much the only video where he is like this and he only was like this because he was asked to be like this.

Other forms of violence other than physical violence. Even if no one raises a hand on your neglect is still a form of abuse so other man's inner kings in a libertarian society will neglect to take care of the most vulnerable people. Then there's the inner warrior that you see in online comment fights where people turn into keyboard warriors and will even go so far as to tell people to go commit suicide and they are better off dead online so they can cause big psychological harm to people. Then (we even have a form of it now) the shadows of these men will create a system so dysfunctional and devilish that when all the power is consolidated through resource gathering and a rigged economy and when shit hits the fan and people get so pissed at these corrupt devils and liars they will project and say you see "these people are violent and unreasonable they are violating the non-aggression principle" it's very easy to do that when you mess everything up in the shadows ruin people's lives in tricky ways where you're not "physically attacking them" yet, you are stacking all the cards against them in a tricky way and then talking about yourself as this non-violent benevolent savior of humanity.

@thetrut11 Truth is what you are. It's what everyone is. It's the fabric of Reality. There's no need for noise. @Shaun Suicidal people find their reasons to commit suicide wherever they feel like. Some of them commit suicide because they see happy couples and happy families doing happy things together. Do you think happy couples and happy families should be prohibited of going public because of the mental illness of suicidal people? In the end, one finds what one seeks.

No, we really don't need people like him running their mouth on youtube telling people they dreamt their whole life and family up resulting in people committing suicide. I think his channel should be shut down.

Times Leo Gura has declared himself as an Enlightened: So here we have this guy claiming one and other again that he is enlightenedd that he has reached Truth with capital T. You know something? This all is BULLSHIT. TRUTH is by definition UNINTELLIGIBLE a finite thing, (the mind, the being) cannot comprehend The Infinite, The Universe, The Tao. Every attempt to reach Truth is a lost of time. Truth is always here, wheter you are on 5-meO-DMT, sobber, happy, sad, anger, depressed. Is BULLSHIT that some kind of experience will lead you to TRUTH. TRUTH IS EXPERIENCE. TRUTH = EXPERIENCE And I'm gonna use his last video as proof. In this video we are talking about Self-Bias, truth is WE ARE ALL BIASED. No matter the effort we put in it, we will always going to be biased. What is reality? an infinite subjective points of views that form an objective reality. So what do you do with all this concepts and stuff? TRUTH is life hasn't an inherent objective meaning, TRUTH is giving a meaning to your life yourself from rebellion, freedom and passion. You can suicide and end all of it right now, or you can dedicate your life and energy to something you trully like and something you are passionate about. IS your ultimate choise.