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Every form is based on formlessness. Formlessness is the truth. Because it could be anything. Such as every salmon is fish, but but not every fish is salmon. In order to be salmon, you have be fish first. Thats why truth is infinite nothingness and formlessness. It is the core.

Definitely brother. Whatever you do is you, me is you. Infinite nothingness, Little little nothing is happening within nothingness.

You are EVERYTHING. The entire field of consciousness. Be careful with your ideas of Nothingness. Whatever ideas you have of it are not it. Awakening is not about becoming convinced of something. Awakening is not a logical conclusion or a belief. It is a new state of consciousness. You need to access a new state, rather than trying to convince yourself from within your current state.

What is fear ultimately, fundamentally, when you break it all down? This: Fear is fear of you not being able to share love with all other selves in existence. Nothing more. Nothing less. The legimitate reasons for not being able to do selfless sharing of love are: - physical death in and of itself - a severe physical/mental illness - total social exclusion - lack of enough money and resources to do it - lack of sastification of direct survival-needs such as hunger, sleep, sex, appreciation from others, general safety, a home etc. - lack of enough love from others during childhood (because this makes you emotionally and unconsciously believe that you are not worthy and good enough to be selfless, i.e. share love.) And nothing more. This lists include all possible reasons of you not being able to share love unconditionally, i.e. be completely selfless. So all the things mentioned in the list you can -- already do, did or will -- fear...because of ultimately, because of *that*, being unable to share love with others. Physical death is the most obvious one (and all the other fears listed stem from that). But it is also the most mysterious/paradoxical one: because physical death will make you become Love in and of itself, which naturally means that there no longer is a 'you' that can practice selflessness/share love. Illness you can sometimes prevent and sometimes you can't. Social exclusion can be avoided by learning. The needed money and resources (including mental 'know-how') can be accumulated if your will is strong enough. Same goes for hunger, sleep, sex, appreciation from others, safety. (This doesn't necessarily apply if you live in a severe third world country, though). If you are so unlucky to have become a traumatized adult due to insane neglect/lack of love during early childhood, you need psychedelics or some other extreme measure that can reprogram your unconscious emotional workings (could maybe be extreme love/selflessness from another adult person, but unlikely to work, since you will probably reject his/her love in various ways, since you deep-down know you are not worthy of it). Of course, if you could recognize that physical death will only make your false self (the person you believe you are) unable to share love, not your true self (Love itself), then that would make selfless love-sharing A LOT easier :-) Anyway, anytime you are not acting in a selfless, unconditional love-sharing way (unconditional means also loving yourself, as well as all others, equally), it is because of fear..... of death ...... and that fear of death is fundamentally a fear of then being unable to do selfless sharing of love. (When you are death, or when you are very ill, you can't do it, obviously enough). So you ultimately need to let go of fear to actually unconditionally selflessly love yourself, the world and all others. And the only way to let completely go of fear is to deeply and directly recognize that what we normally consider death to be, is a grand illusion, and that what death actually is, is that it is totally and wholly equal to: Love. The only thing that dies during physical death is the limited, imaginary body-mind-person-ego; i.e. it is a character - a role - that dies. What remains after death is exactly that which were acting to be that role, i.e. that which wore the mask of the ego/person. And that is Love. And Love is equal to God, Consciousness, The Self, Nothingness, Oneness, Infinity, The Universe, etc., whatever you wanna call it. But it is loving and good. It is Love. Why does God not just stay God all the time to avoid feeling fear? - Because God is infinitely selfless. And that would be selfish of God. - Because God can't love itself without imagining 'other'. You see: other = you = God If God didn't imagine itself to be fragmented and separate from itself, God would then not be able to love itself. It is only by you imagining that you are separate, that you are able to love others... And then, ultimately, you will come to realize --- either by an awakening inside the dream of this life, or by a number of physical deaths and then awakening in some other life --- that 'others' are 100% equal to 'you', i.e. that you actually never were separate; you were always One, you were always God, always Love itself. So, of course, this is the ultimate paradox of reality: In order to become infinitely selfless, infinitely loving, you have to let go of the fear of death. But in order to let go of the fear of death, you have to experience what death is! You see? Letting completely go of the fear of death is only possible by actually dying. Then you can directly experience that what you thought death was, was actually Love itself! Luckily -- or actually not luckily, because of course! -- it IS possible to directly experience/become conscious of what death is, without physically killing the body. However, one ego-death most often won't do it alone. You need, after an initial ego-death-awakening, to actually then become concious of that which remains beyond ego: Love. And it isn't necessarily easy to become fully concious of it, i.e. yourself. It may take many more 'awakenings', more time, more understanding. After all, Love is limitless and infinite, so there is always room for more understanding for the limited human being. May you all surrender and let go ? May you all wake up ? Love ❤️

@Member i have realized it during the glimpses of Mahasamadhi. 10 min through meditation and 2 hours with 2 gr dried shrooms. You will see sooner or later. Lol when you don’t remember anything about life (no sense of the body) when you become your room as infinite nothingness. Let me know

Lol, you're just theorizing and have no idea what nothingness is. Nothingness is the same as death except that you can reach that state while being alive. It is clear to me that you've never experienced such state, otherwise you wouldn't use such nonsensical words such as pure awareness ?

@Member how can I explain something has no name? Thats the reason why i am saying, it is pure awareness itself, which is nothingness therefore infinite (everything). Every shape is existed by awareness or nothingness. You have to be nothing or awareness itself to get a shape as something, even love. It has no shape or shapeless but aware. It is nothing, because there is nothing there but aware.

Nothingness has nothing to do with pure awareness But that cannot be expressed in words if you've never reached that nondual "state".

Nothingness is not really "nothing"... just sayin'

Your enlightenment stinks. It is clear to me that you have no idea what nothingness is since you're using words such as awareness. Maybe you should change your mushrooms with something else 'cause right now you're making a fool of yourself. And nope, I'm not running, just saying to talk to your hand because I don't like to waste my time replying to nonsense

enlightenment is nothingness . Run run run i am not a indian. But people who are from india feel disrespected when they see your comment. Watch your mouth.

you are wrong. Pure awareness is nothingness. Because, Nothing includes everything. Me as a person is not real, but the only real is awareness itself, which is nothingness. I dont where do you come with these info’s. Of course there is an awareness. If there is no awareness, you can never be exist or aware, even as nothing. You guys in the dream world. Lol. Nothing (pure awareness) is happening here. Nothing is the inly thing that exist as aware. You guys are in Alice wonderland. Dont even know nothingness. You forgot to read this part. I found your name ignorance is bliss

@zeroISinfinity you are wrong. Pure awareness is nothingness. Because, Nothing includes everything. Me as a person is not real, but the only real is awareness itself, which is nothingness. I dont where do you come with these info’s. Of course there is an awareness. If there is no awareness, you can never be exist or aware, even as nothing. You guys in the dream world. Lol. Nothing (pure awareness) is happening here. Nothing is the inly thing that exist as aware. You guys are in Alice wonderland. Dont even know nothingness.

@zeroISinfinity it has no name actually. It is awareness itself, but even when you add a word, it contradicts itself. But nothing and aware, therefore nowhere, everything and everywhere. Right now. All is nothingness. This is direct experience, if you label chair as a chair thats your duality. All is nothingness is happening here, and you just labeled it. Life is not exist. Even words, all illusion.

Again, a gay act... I'm dissapointed, I thought I was not gay, and then I deep throat a banana, gaged, is that how girls suck dicks? I don't see any pleasure in that. Sure I might deny that. Sure. But what the hell, right? It's pointless to fight. So let's just give in and let's be gay. Ofcourse first things first - being straight, going out with girls, bringing them into my room, having sex with them, feeling pleasure, giving her pleasure, does that sound nice? I bet it does. After the whole straight bit, then I will be gay, noe I'm just acting gay, but I'm not gay. Sure I'm denying the fact that deep throating a ? is a bit gay. Let's face it head on. Bring it God, Devil or whatever you are. I will give in to you all in, I will give in to you so much that I will lose myself completely, I'll be gone in the nothingness. Everything you do to me, I will take, I might bitch and moan while you do it to me, but I will take it. Period.

Empty mind nothingness

Life and the entire reel from which the mind constructs of it is but a story. A story created by the mind to entertain the mind. This may sound nihilistic but when you really conceive of it directly you are afforded the opportunity to detach from stories and create them at will. You seek that life is nothing but a story created from the infinite potentiation of nothingness. My first mystical experience rudely showed this to me. Extremely powerful.

absolute love and unconditional love are not per say the same. they are so different as a black hole is different to space, nothingness is to everythingness, destruction is to creation, egoic-love is to self-love, duality is to nonduality, time is to timelessness, when absolute love happens unconditional love dies - that’s why even in non duality there is always a dual choice even if the absolute does not like that.

I realized that i have been avoiding mindfulness meditation for about 3 months now due to "The dark night of the soul" that i have experienced a while ago. I have recovered from it by building up a new identity from literally nothing (No pun intended) , which now feels as if i am a totally new person/identity living within the same body. The difference that i am aware of is that they are both fake identities. The point is that i know i can go back into that nothingness and experience that depersonalizing state again, which for the old me meant loosing my old identity. If it is possible that the Dark night of the soul can happen to me again (with the knowledge i have from directly experiencing it), will the potential experience of it be "normal" or have less of an impact on me then it did before, or will i pass through the same struggle of building new identities over and over again in order to survive?

A lot of guld nuggets in this video. He's obviously awake. I can relate so much to everything he says. Full control over emotions. You can still be sad but it's a choice. It's beautiful. Acting is a spiritual quest. He talks about how many actors are enlightened, Jim Carrey is a good example, because they learn that during acting they actually become their role. And this is the same they've done all their life: acting and then becoming the person. But that's not who we are. Depressive vs expressive. Yes, depression is the opposite of fully expressing yourself. "no-brainer" = "enligthenment". Yes the brain is a limiter. It narrows the Whole (Reality) to a narrowly defined "thing"; your survival is now all that matters. He talks about "What if your girlfriend broke up with you? Or you lost your job?" , would you still be happy? Would you have control over your emotions? The thing is: most people will be depressed and sad if they lose their dream job/dream GF/dream BF and there's nothing wrong with being sad/depressed, but here is what is "not-good": They don't WANT to feel sad/depressed while they are sad/depressed. And that's real unhappiness, when you resist your emotion. And why don't they want to feel sad/depressed after their loss? BECAUSE SOCIETY LOOKS DOWN UPON SAD PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SAD, says society. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SMILE ALL THE TIME AND WORK THAT HAMSTER WHEEL 24/7 haha. See, if I lost my mom/dad/my dream job/dream GF w/e I'd probably also be sad. But I want to feel sad if that happens, I'm not the least in doubt. I want to. And I can be happy again anytime I want to. happiness and sadness is a duality. it's the same thing. It's all Happiness with big H (i.e. Love) as long as you don't resist. Enlightenment = No resistance / being in flow / free = being unlimited = being in-control = expressing yourself freely Being "normal" = resisting (in order to survive as a separate self) = tension in mind&body = being limited = being controlled by external things = not-being-in-control = being depressed Sadness is a beautiful emotion. Why are sad movies popular? It's beautiful, cos you can let go after you've watched it. Sadness is beautiful emotion if you realize its your own doing; that you in ACTUALITY can break free ANY TIME, you want to. But most people can't break free. And they can't break free, because they don't realize that it's something you can do. LOL Oh god. Great video, that's just why I wanted to share it in a post for itself on this beautiful forum. So how do you become Happy for good? You stop searching for it externally. And start looking inward to see who you are. When you find out who you are / what you have left out all your live up until now, your prior false self will be shattered, and you can now be anyone you want (which is the "state" of the true self: <nothingness/everythingness/God/Love/Consciousness/The Acting Self Always In Full Control>. You can be sad, you can be happy. You realize you're fully in control, and the most stunning part: that you've always been. Prior to awakening you were just pretending not-to-be-in-control. hehe;) You were (are, if you are not awakened) pretending to be a 'poor little me', swayed by external conditions. A victim. Either you believe you are on parole, with God up in the sky looking after you (religious people), or you believe you are just an accident. A biological accident that happened in a universe that is basically a cold, unintelligent machine with no deeper meaning, no finer emotions, no purpose, no love, no intelligence. (atheists/ hardcore scientific-minded ppl). Haha. What's up all pretenders on this forum. When are you gonna let go and stop pretending to not be in control?:D Stop pretending = letting go = not resisting <3 Could you at least pretend to let go of the "reality is a cold machine"-myth and try, just TRY, to imagine yourself to be believing in this myth: The Universe is playful. It's Intelligent. Reality is warm, filled with emotions, filled with purpose. Who's filling it up with play, act, intelligence, warmth, emotions, and meaning? ........... YOU. You. You. You. God. You are God. It's all your doing. If you want reality/the universe to be a story of a God-creator in the sky looking after his children to behave well, then that's what it is. For you. If you want reality/the universe to be a story of a natural, physical, scientific, hard-coded, tough, rough, fully-automatic, cold, unintelligent machine made up of Natural Laws, where there just randomly, accidentally happened to be life on an otherwise lifeless rock floating around in dark space, then that's your story. Then you have to conquer nature and defeat it. That is what it's all about then. For you. But both these two myths (the religious & the fully-automatic-model) make you feel like a separate self. You see that? They re-nforce your concious/semi-unconscious deep belief that you are a separate human being isolated from everything else, living a temporary life, and that after that you will be death forever and ever in eternal darkness/nothingness. A separate isolated self that has to seek happiness externally during his/her limited life-span. Either from God in the sky -- salvation, by being "good" -- or from external, materialistic factors such as prestige, success, fame, money, social status, power, sex, food..., you name your addiction. But you see. No matter how much you try to be-good to please the Lord up in Heaven, or no matter how much success, sex and money you get, it will never make you really Happy. Why not? Because you still believe that you are a limited, separate 'self' living in a cruel world that will you no-good... You *KNOW* that you will eventually die and lose everything. And that makes you deeply depressed on the inside, whether you realize it or not. As long as you think of yourself as a temporary, separate self, you will constantly feel that you: lack "something". You will fear a lot. Regret a lot. You will be depressed by society/cultural norms/other people's opinion, because you always try to live up to their standards. But the only standard that matters is your own standard. Change your standard. Make the universe something that is intelligent. Buy into the acting-myth. That it's all a dream/act/game. And that you are the actor. That's a lot more fun than the fully-automatic and religious model, cos then you are eternal. You are just right now acting out one meta-characther, and after that characther has played its role, you will play a new one. You see? You are Divine, Eternal, Infinite, All-Powerful. You now see that it's all your dream. You are making it all function. It's all part of your play. It's all your doing. You feel CONNECTED. You are part of an intelligent dance. An intelligent play. The purpose is to see what we can imagine. How far out can we go? And how loving can we be? How powerful are our Divine Creative forces? What can we imagine? What can we do? Look at the past 10.000 years of human history. Look at all we have imagined, both "sad" and "beautiful" things. It's all play. It's all Creation. Your Creation. Of course just remember that you on purpose always choose to do something consciously and something unconsciously, simultaneously. If you did everything unconsciously, then that's equal to a deep sleep without dreams. That's where you go after you die. Until you wake up again:-) If you did everything consciously, you'd be nothing/everything/God. You see that? You can't listen to music, eat melon, beat the heart and shine the sun, all 4 things consciously, simultaneously. So you choose to do 2 things consciously: the music and the eating of the melon and then you do the sun-shining and the heart-beating unconsciously. :-) So even though everything is your doing, of course you will relatively speaking still be surprised when your conscious doings overlaps with the your unconscious doings, like the tree that might fall over your car tommorow, or how your loved one may get a sudden heart attack in 2 years, or how it's gonna rain like shit in 1 hour, or how you make an apple fall down from the tree while you read a book under it. By letting some things be done unconsciously, you can focus on something (i.e. make distinctions and thus manifest 'things'). That's what life is: a special type of focus. Your focus. Create. Express. Imagine. Love. <3 You see, if you could let go of all beliefs you have absorbed from the outside, what would be left? Pure experience. Pure being. Pure qualia. Raw conscious experience. And then you are free "to now put on" any myth you like. Will you choose the religious myth? The fully automatic machine-myth? Or the intelligent/play/act/dream-myth? See, all myths have their purpose. The religious myth was necessary for the evolution of ethics and "good behaviour"/good manners (a lot of harm came along too though, ofc). The fully automatic-machine myth/atheistic myth was necessary for the evolution of science and technology (which also brings good and bad things with it). Now we are in a unique position, us people who are living in the Western World. We have the comfy life now. We live in a democratic society where people mostly behave well, because they have been taught to behave well and because they can get food on the table everyday. And we got powerful technologies like the internet. So we can study anything we want. And we are all connected in a way we've never been before. And we can focus on what's behind everything. We can focus on ourselves, find out who we really are. And then when we have found that out: we can create our own myth and transform the planet. Make it a better place. Help ppl wake up. We need a new myth. A spiritual myth. A myth where all human people are seen as conscious souis who have chosen to live their human lives themselves (and for a deep mystical reason!). As divine beings, not just as "biological/cultural/ethnic human beings". As avatars of The Godhead. As "physical" vessels for love/imagination/infinity/God/Consciousness. The play/dream-myth, where you by buying into it slowly can start to see that it's all One. Oneness. Because it's all play (God's play), but it's play with a deep intelligent manuscript behind it. Your manuscript, not your ego's or the cultural/societal ego's manuscript, but: God's/Your's manuscript. Everything has meaning, purpose, because it's part of an intelligent plan. You start to see reality as something filled with meaning, intelligence, emotion and purpose and love. Then we can create a more loving society on Earth with less suffering, less pain, and more love, more creation for creation's sake. But also see, that there can only be "good things", i.e. happiness, good, beautiful, joy, surprise, laughter, love etc if we have something opposite to contrast it with: sadness, hate, bad, ugly etc. That's why life is not just from the get-go: paradise. If it were paradise from the get-go, it would not be paradise! Haha, you see? It would be nothing. "paradise" is only "real" if we also got its opposite: hell! You can't have hell without paradise, you can't have paradise without hell. Just like you can't have life without death and vice versa. And fundamentally all these relativistic dualities are one and the same thing: God/Love/Consciousness. We did it. To dream. For creation's sake. When you can transcend all perspectives and all dualities and let go of the dream, what you are left with is Paradise though. Paradise with a big P. Because you see it's all something you do. It's your garden of play. Of love. Of imagination. Of creation. You are now consciously in full control over all your emotions. Want to be sad? be sad. Want to be happy? be happy. Want to hate? hate. Want to love? love. Want to be bad? be bad. Want to be good? be good. Want to be beautiful? be beautiful. Want to fear? fear. Want to be at peace? be at peace. When you're fully awake, you are in absolute control and everything that happens to you is seen as your own doing, consciously or unconciously, doesn't matter, still your doing. and it is beautiful and you want to be Loving towards everyone and everything with a big L, cos how can you not Love yourself?????? <3 Create. Express. Imagine. Love. <3

Because in truth -- from the highest perspective, Absolutely speaking -- it is not the kid that is getting raped, but God. Only God exist. Everything else is illusion. So "<all that can ever happen> in Reality" = The Godhead doing things to itself. Nothing is outside God. God = The Godhead = Everything = The Entire Universe = The Fabric & Structure of Existence Itself = Reality = Nothingness = Consciousness = The Self = Love = Absolute Infinity = Pure Selflessness = Me = You of course dont believe in anything i just said. directly experience the truth im pointing to. Words can only point.

But that's a problem most people have as they think there's this void or nothingness AFTER the body dies. Saying that you're nothing NOW, nothing changes. The mind is still stuck on being mortal. We have to start from somewhere, right? This 'I am human' mindset is nothing but stagnation. The mind needs to be trained.

Yes Leo, but most of us think that we are humans and this form is finite, so we think that death is nothing but returning to the Source or nothingness. Is this void immortality or we are truly immortal and death is only a limit of the mind?

psychedelics are a visionary trance state They are an additive state like shamanic rituals involving repetitive music and dancing , it involves sensory/perceptive stimulus. In this case a chemical stimulus The chemical has a physical effect on the brain which triggers a mental state (this is not to diminish the value of the experience) but it's an additive state, adding something physical It could be sound (drums etc) and body movements, sensory input that induces a trance state of visionary and perception changes But it is antithetical to some forms of mediation (not all) which are often reductive, doing the opposite, removing stimulation to approach stillness, nothingness, focusing on one point , or observing our distracting thoughts in removed way . These forms of meditation are clearly not a visionary trance state although that occasionally may be experienced. There are additive and reductive states. These are very different and if you look at various meditative states and visionary trance states within them they are different. Each psychedelic is different and mediation has many variations not all with the same outcome. The other worldly experiences and perception changes under psychedelics are clearly not like the stillness of certain mediation states but they may be similar to other types of meditation that are more mystical (sometimes oriented toward focus on a deity). There is also a tendency in all of these things to bring into them ones already had beliefs and experiences and cultural background. Enlightenment might be inspired by a mental state but it is considered to be permanent condition usually resulting in clarity and wisdom. However what enlightenment is is very subjective and one person's "absolute truth" may be different than another's "absolute truth" . In fact truth can't be properly expressed in words

Just curious if others experience this in conversation with others, a dissolving of sense of self, where there is just the awareness of the other speaking and the responses that come up. I’ve noticed it happening since I started therapy. It’s like being in a meditative state but able to converse and interact. I’m finding it happens as the conversation progressively becomes more open with vulnerability on both sides. It’s stands in contrast to how I typically feel when interacting with others which is slightly contracted somehow. I noticed it in therapy, presumably because it was a safe feeling space where I could speak freely without fear of judgement. I enjoy the bliss of nothingness during meditation and when two people are conscious of it it’s a really interesting and fun space to explore and speak from with another. Curious how other’s find interacting with others, in particular close family & friends and if they find themselves in this state of awareness or perhaps this is their default?