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Guest replied to Princess Arabia's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hey, how was breakfast? Look, I just came up with another illustration that might help to get my point across... and of course, it involves my beloved Yin & Yang symbol. As you might have heard me say before, this symbols represents the experienceability of unity (nonduality) through form (duality). Or to put it in slightly less fancy terms: The whole thing is God, and the white and black shapes that it is made of is all of the stuff through which God expresses and experiences itself. Now imagine the white part of the symbol waking up one day and saying "hooooly cow, I think I just realized something... I AM EVERYTHING!! White is all there is, there is no black! Black is just white's imagination!! WHITE AND GOD ARE LITERALLY ONE AND THE SAME THING!!!" Do you see how utterly absurd that would be? And yet this is exactly what Solipsists are saying. They claim that the part of the whole is the whole itself... which is obviously (?) preposterous. Amirite? -
I will make this quick and swift. Mirrors Since there is no physical reality, when I look at a mirror and see my “reflection”, from the point of nonduality, what is the mirror? A rectangular void on which consciousness projects an image of the avatar it is inhabiting? Computer / Phone Screens When I interact with my phone, since there is no physical existence... what is that appearing inside the screen? Does this mean that we are creating more stories and events by using our phones, because they are the ULTIMATE research and communication tools? In summary: Am I God using an iPhone it itself dreamt up, and when using it I invent more realities. All that I see in my phone I imagined and is not real. What are the implications for life? Lets say I meet someone on a dating app. I dreamt up the app, and then dreamt up the conversation... what if we meet in real “life”. What are the implications of that?
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Water by the River replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The "people" have the exact same Pure Impersonal Consciousnes/Awareness as their essence as "you" and "I". That is an obvious fact once you realize your own True Being. There is only That Infinite Reality/Consciousness. You see and realize your own Impersonal Pure Being in them also. That is the meaning of True Nonduality. That is the source of love. For the other "people": Notice the non-euclidian (infinite) space in the vision below. And now just forget all the other perspectives (forgetting not in time, but in space so to say). That is how you splice up Infinite Consciousness, and forget that YOU are all other beings/persepctives. The people/beings are just perspectives in Indras Great Net, reflecting each other, and that Impersonal Pure Infinite Consciousness/Awareness is the True You. Every "other" appeance (of the world, such as a tree) you see as as its essence THAT Infinite Pure Impersonal Consciousness in a nondual way. That is what becomes totally obvious with Full Enlightenment. There is only That/You. "You do agree that people have no POV just like in your dreams right ?" That is exactly the pretty nuts wrong interpretation of Solipsism. Why do you even talk to "others" if you hold that as true? Pretty unnecessary, isn't it? And space and time are of course imaginary. But one more thing: If all is imaginary, everything is just as real as anything else. Because if there is only imagination, there are no degrees of "real". Including that sentence and this insight. -
I've done the Life Purpose Course in the past, and at the end it was pretty clear that career wise i wanted to help people with psychological problems. I was planning on becoming a Psychologist/Psychotherapist, and i would have gone to uni to get my masters degree. I planned out all the action steps towards reaching this goal, and my life started to have a lot of meaning again. I became very action oriented, and everything was set to this goal. This was until Nonduality realy started to get a grip on me, and basically ruined this dream of mine. Right now i don't feel like i want to pursue it anymore, as i see that fundamentally al psychological problems mostly stem from ego and believing in your "own" thoughts. I feel like i would be cheating on people if i would show them a lot of empathy for their "problems", taking them serious, as they would only make them worse in the end, and not be a permanent solution. Also receiving money and making a living out of this this would feel kinda weird. I think for this to work right now, i would have to put on a huge mask and fake it. It just feels wrong. I'm not sure what to do anymore with this. My life lacks drive and mission right now, and i'm totally clueless again on what to do with life. I hate it. The only small interest i had was Psychology and now i don't really care about anything anymore. It's still there, but it's not nearly as big as wat it used to be. It's even hard for me to get a dayjob because of this, as a 9-5 would totally have been in service of my Life Purpose to earn and saveup money. Now a dayjob would just be in service of feeding myself and getting by, and that's not as exciting to me at all. Where do i go from here?
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SeaMonster replied to TheEnigma's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
She's partly awakened and somewhat based when it comes to intersexual dynamics, so I guess that raises her above a vast majority of content providers. Being quite above "normal people" is not a high bar to clear these days, which is kind of sad. A "normal person" isn't remotely close to being stabilized in nonduality Stage 1, e.g., so that automatically puts you in the 1%, and probably even the 0.1%. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How many psychotic gurus have you seen? Why are you so biased against psychotic breaks? It's too hard to explain. I don't know how to explain it. I have given plenty of explanation of problems with Buddhism. But the really deep problem cannot be explained so simply. I'm in the process of articulating it to myself. And it's hard to do that when I'm being gaslit by them on the regular. A certain orbital escape velocity much be reached to transcend Buddhism + Nonduality + enlightenment. Which is why you don't see many people escaping it. -
Oppositionless replied to davecraw's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
because everything isn’t one, everything YOU experience is YOUR dream but there are infinite dreams. nonduality is a gross oversimplification. -
Water by the River replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Pretty much every meditation traditions differentiates between the preliminary awakenings/enlightenments (both words used) and the final big shift. The former ones prepare the mindstream for finally understanding what lies "beyond" (called Final Enlightenment or Great Enlightenment in some traditions). To grasp what is beyond the boundless nondual field, one first needs to have experiences of that boundless nondual field (called Enlightenments or Awakenings). The totality can not be grasped from a partialized/dual perspective. These initial nondual unity experiences are the unity of a still existing separate self (however refined/empty that is) with the boundless nondual field. That ripens then towards True Nonduality with no separate-self remnants. And in these awakened nondual states the big shift can happen. -
@MsNobody I don’t hear McKenna speaking about nonduality or Awakening that much. I think we can judge his level of enlightenment by how he describes Truth and Consciousness.
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Spiritual Autolysis - Journal Entry #46 - Fri Sep 8th '23 - 9:02 AM Higher self: What is true? Lower self: Nothing. Nothing is true. I've got nothing for you. Higher self: Nope... Something is true. Lower self: Yes ... something is true, but I can't use words to explain it, so whats the point. Higher self: The point is to get you there. How else are you going to get there? By watching more Leo videos or reading more books or meditating more? You don't even like meditating... Lower self: Okay fine.... Everything is one. Higher self: Everything is one, aye? What does that mean. What is everything and what is one? Sounds like a duality to me. Lower self: Yes, it is a duality. But dualities do not exist. Thats what this paradox thing is telling us, that there is a fault in the way that we are looking at things. We want to start looking past it. Everything is literally all there is in the entire universe. Everything, by my definition is the entire universe, God, every emotion that you can think of, every event that you can think of, every single thought stream coming out of a sentient being, every plant on this planet or any other, every star in the entire galaxy and beyond, every grain of sand on the beach, every molecule in the human body, all of the water in the sea and ocean on Earth and on every other planet, every video game, every human being that ever existed, every dinosaur that ever existed, every animal, current and past and future, every rock, every boulder, every eye ball, every disease, every infection, every fight, every bar, every insult, every dream, all energy fields, every color, every piece of music, every event that has ever transpired and will ever transpire, every book, every piece of clothing, every neck tie, every job application, every beating heart, every brain, every tornado, every comet crashing into something, every movie and TV show, every Instagram account, every Twitter account, every sentient being on the Earth and outside of it, every hallucination, every acid trip, every picture that you think is in your head, every airplane, every shoe, every shoe lace, every window, every flower, every tree, every forest, every sunset, ever lake, every river, every ocean, every road, every state, every country, every continent, every boat, Magellan, Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, my best friends, my family, every ego, every shin guard, every shin, every soccer ball, football, baseball, cricket, every sporting event, every school, every water fountain, every slice of pizza, every building, every sky scraper, every train ride, every train ticket, every pen, every pencil, every factory, every yoga class, every whole foods, every psychological model, every guru, every alien, every UFO, every Youtube video, every idea, every conspiracy theory, Jed McKenna, every awakening, every spiritual pursuit, every church, every religion, every football team, every high school clique, every sexual encounter, every kiss, every crush... shall I go on? And that is only scratching the surface because I have a limited perspective here on Earth, in this puny human body. Get me out into the stars like you God and I'll be able to see the whole god damn universe. Higher self: Okay... we understand what everything is.. Now what is one? Lower self: One. well, one is the first number in the numerical language.. Higher self: Thats not what you mean by one... you said that everything is one... what does that mean to you? Lower self: It means that everything can be encapsulated in one thing. That is truth. I know that its true because it must be true. Everything has to be encapsulated in something. I guess I'm really just putting everything in a box. I'm categorizing everything, but theres really only one category and it is one... I could add more categories, but that just doesn't feel right. Higher self: I don't get it. Lower self: Yeah me neither... Aright just let me think out loud for a little bit... Well we know that these paradoxes are always true, right? If a statement is a paradox, that means that we are onto something... thats what I am going to conclude from some of our previous discussions.. and "everything is one" is certainly a paradox... Higher self: Can you explain why its a paradox please. Lower self: Because everything is everything, take all of the examples that I listed above and multiply it by infinity... and one is just one thing, it is singular, I mean truthfully when I think of one, I think of one person, one lamp, one desk, one plant. Singular. So that is not everything, that seems like the complete opposite... Which is what makes the statement a paradox... Yet it is such a common term "Oh yeah... everythings one, we are all one, lets all love each other." Yet no body stopped and questioned that this is the most obvious paradox that there is?! Jesus christ we are missing this shit. Of course I never realized it either until I sat down and thought about it so I'm not above it either.. I'm sorry for judging all of you people. Anyways, this is a massive paradox, we know this now, which means that there is truth to it? Can we conclude that truth lies within every paradoxical statement? Higher self: I don't know... I think thats a stretch... what are the paradoxical statements that we've come up with so far? Lower self: "Everything is one" "Nonduality is true" "Non-existence exists" Higher self: No. we cannot conclude that, we need to look into each statement in further depth. Lower self: Okay, yeah I can tell that I was being lazy with that claim. A big problem with this work is that its mentally draining. I feel like I just ran 30 laps but only gained an inch. Higher self: Yes, thats the nature of the work... Lower self: Alright... thanks for that... *Long pause* Now lets gain a little more understanding on the statement "Everything is one," So everything is infinite things, and one is just one thing... how can everything be one... is infinity packed into a single molecule... or a single body... I don't think so... so that means that they are opposites... but no they are not opposites because opposites do not exist, opposites are human mind constructions... But everything can't be one. It just can't be. Higher self: Alright... I'm going to help you out a little bit. I think that what the statement is alluding to is that God is in everything. We humans are all one in the sense that we are all God. Lower self: Okay but even a statement like God is in everything doesn't make any sense to me because I don't know what God is, I just talk to him sometimes but don't even know if its real. You know what... everything cannot be one, thats my answer to this. The shirt that is laying out on the chair in front of me is a singular object. It is NOT infinite. not infinite at all. If it were infinite, it would look infinite and it doesn't, its just a shirt, a single fucking shirt. Higher self: What about all of the cotton threads within the shirt, there must be thousands that make up the singular shirt, does that make the shirt a thousand cotton threads or just one thread. Lower self: I don't know, it depends how you look at it, yeah sure.. you could say "Hey, that person is wearing a thousand cotton threads"... but you'd sound pretty silly. Higher self: Okay... so your definition of one depends upon the persons perspective, which means that it is a relative truth. Lower self: Yeah... sure. Whats your point? Higher self: My point is that we are looking for absolute truths, not relative truths... Therefore, your definition of what one is is relative, it is not absolute. Lower self: Fine then, lets just scrap the "everything is one" statement, its fine by me, not true, get it out of here... Higher self: Okay.. I can tell you are getting aggravated, I think its time for a break. Just to clarify, I think that I have been harping on "Everything is one" as something to look into because I intuit that there is some truth to it. And I think that we should trust my intuition when it comes to where we want our conversations to be steered. Lower self: Yes, I'm on board with that. I need some food, I'll talk to you later.
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This is a very short and funny interview packed with some solid non-dual Q&A...thought worth a share ❤
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Spiritual Autolysis - Journal Entry #45 - Wed Sep 6th '23 - 8:50 AM 13.*Look around and say to yourself* A meaningless world engenders fear. *Close your eyes.* A meaningless world engenders fear because I think I am in competition with God. "To move forward, you must figure out exactly what is obstructing you. Whatever it is, it isn’t really there; it has no reality, no substance. It’s your own creation, a phantom lurking in the shadows of your mind, a shadow demon. Your obstructions are your demons, and your demons are shadow dwellers. They live and thrive in the half-light of ignorance, so the way to slay a demon is by illuminating it with the full force and power of your focused attention; by looking at it, hard. Banish shadow with light and see for yourself that no obstruction exists, nor ever did. We create our demons and we feed them. To awaken we must slay them. That’s really the whole process: Slay one demon, take one step. Repeat." ~ from Spiritually Incorrect Enlightenment by Jed McKenna Higher self: Lets take this duality conversation one step further. If duality does not exist, what else does that mean? We established that the thought of two things being opposites is an illusion, according to this insight, what else is an illusion? Lower self: Everything. Everything is an illusion. Higher self: Okay... Give me an example. Lower self: My entire life story is an illusion. Everything about it. My past is an illusion. My friends are an illusion. My cat .. an illusion. The people that I love... Illusion. Higher self: How do you know they are an illusion? I feel like you're just saying these things with no way of backing it up or proving it. You don't truly understand the magnitude of these statements. And what does this have to do with nonduality? Lower self: Nonduality is "all is one." That's literally what it means to be nondual. That means that there is nothing outside of it, which means that anything that is finite or separate, such as my puny little body and my memories and thoughts and family and circle of friends, they are all nondual. Everything is nondual. Higher self: Hmmm. Okay that's interesting, but there are still finite things, you must admit. The chair has a different makeup than the table and than a physical human body. Lower self: Not in the absolute sense, there is no difference between the two, not really. The difference between the two has been constructed in our own minds. The chair and the human are one and the same. Higher self: Hmmm... Interesting.. but you care about the survival of the human body more than the chair that you are sitting on. Lower self: Yes of course because I want to live. I don't want to die. I don't care about that chair because I don't live through the chair, I live through this physical body. I am selfish, we all must be in order to survive. Higher self: Can you transcend survival? Lower self: Yeah probably, but I think that we are all scared to because then we will literally be okay with dieing. Higher self: Well that's where you're headed if you continue down this path... Is that a demon that you are willing to face... Lower self: Errrrrr... Yes, I think so.
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I saw there was no post about the actual list of worksheets and home assignments so i made one (maybe there already is one but anyway) Here it is (not including, websites, and links to articles and papers): Paradoxes Of Personal Development: Curing Perfectionism - How To Stop Being A Perfectionist: The Mechanics Of Belief: How To Harness Your Intuition: The Trap Of Projection, Especially Onto Teachers & Mentors: A Rant Against Culture: Money Psychology - The Inner Game of Mastering Money: Mystical Traditions Around The World - Nonduality Goes Cosmopolitan!: Uncovering Your Childhood Vows - Unwire Your Neurotic Personality: The Pre-mortem Technique - The Trick To Avoiding Project Failure: Dropping The Roles You Play: Build Your Infrastructure For Success: Understanding How Paradigms Work; What Is Love? - Part 2 - The Brutal Nature Of Love How Fear Works - Part 2 - The Ultimate Guide To Dealing With Fear How Corruption Works What Is Insight? - How To Become More Insightful:
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nonduality reduces God down to a primordial consciousness. it's bottom-up. nonduality wants to transcend the individual self. absolute solipsism recognizes the individual self as an eternal fact. God is top-down, not bottom-up. Therefore God is never fully realized. God is infinitely mysterious because the self can never be transcended. The self excludes all other self's. totally inescapable. imagine a ball of yarn. every string is an individual stream of consciousness. the individual stream is infinite, eternal and absolute. God does not split itself into individuals. individuals are, always have been, and always will be. Oversimplification and obsession with parsimony at all costs is a fool's errand. there is nothing simple about God.
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jdc7733 replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Razard86 I haven’t got to the point of nonduality but I’ve realised that as a relative truth, you have the power to create anything you see fit or there are synchronicities with the things you ask for, as long as they are, for lack of a explanatory way of saying this, in alignment. These powerful thoughts come from the Self rather than the ego, if we are using Jungian language. It’s more of an intention, rather than a want. Also, your words and actions have a connection with what is going to come next, but, you may be not realising how far it goes. Then again, everything’s predetermined, but, I think it’s better to think of it as I have power. -
Spiritual Autolysis - Journal Entry #44 - Mon Sep 4th '23 - 1:56 PM Lower self: The statement nonduality is true is in itself a paradox. It's a paradox because for nonduality to be true, the duality of true and false must not be true.How about the statement duality is false? Higher self: How about this, what does it mean to be false? Lower self: To be false is to be not true. Something that is false... Well actually for something to be false. Someone must have thought that it was true at one point and then realized that it was false afterwards. For example, the earth is flat, this is a false statement. We know that the earth is round, but humans used to think that the earth was flat, then we realized that this is false. Then maybe one day we will realize that the earth isn't round and it's actually square shaped (idk). The point I'm trying to make is that these things are relative. In truth work, we are not looking for relative truths, we are looking for absolute truths. What is the difference between relative and absolute truths? Higher self: An absolute truth is something that without a doubt, cannot be questioned, it knows itself is true, it doesn't need anything else to validate that it is true. That is what we are after here, so let's not get stuck on all of these relative truths, such as the nature of the duality of truth vs falsehood. Lower self: But isn't this an important distinction to make? Why does absolute truth fall outside of the realm of duality?? Higher self: Because there is no absolute falsehood. For there to be falsehood, there must be truth, and that's just not what we're after here. We could find falsehood if we wanted to, absolute falsehood. Is that what you want to find? Lower self: Not particularly. But while we're in the subject, what does absolute falsehood look like? Higher self: Why does it matter? True and false are not opposites. Haven't we established this? That is what we mean by the statement dualities are an illusion. Falsehood still exists and absolute truth still exists, so what are we even talking about here? You are not using the duality of truth and falsehood in the work that you are doing. The duality between the two is the illusion, or the relationship between the two is the illusion. You are simply finding out what's true. That is it. Something being false has nothing to do with it. Lower self: Okay but if something is false, then it is not true, correct? Higher self: No! They're not opposites! That's the problem that you keep running into! Lower self: But can something be true and false at the same time? Nuh uh... I don't think so... Higher self: On the relative scale, something can be true to one person and false to another person. For example, one person thinks that God is real, that is his truth, another thinks God is not real, that is his truth. Who's right? Who's truth is correct? Neither! Neither is, they are just opinions. Lower self: Yes but if there is an absolute truth and an absolute falsehood and in this perfect example, we are speaking about God, one of these people is absolutely true and the other is absolutely false. Higher self: No! You are still using the duality! Lower self: What do you mean? Higher self: The duality of truth and false does not exist, correct? Lower self: Yes.. Higher self: That means that there is no difference between truth and false in the absolute sense, they are one and the same... Lower self: Then what the fuck are we doing?? What is the point of this work? Higher self: It's to get you to that point, where you actually understand what we're talking about here! You don't understand it, do you? Lower self: No! How could I?! It makes no sense! Higher self: Okay, let's back up here for a moment, do you understand what I am saying when I say that the duality of truth and false is not real? Do you understand how significant this is. Every time truth pops into your head, you are thinking of its opposite, falsehood. I am trying to get you to stop doing that. The reason for this is because we have already established the duality between truth and falsehood is imaginary, it is not real. That means that there is NO RELATIONSHIP between the two. Are you starting to understand that? Lower self: Yes.. yes.. I understand now.. Higher self: And that means that the word false does not belong here, there is no point in using it. We are looking for TRUTH. That is it, no attachments, no return engagements, no encore. TRUTH. Lower self: Yes, I understand..
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Spiritual Autolysis - Journal Entry #43 - Mon Sep 4th '23 - 9:39 AM Higher self: Okay so we have realized that nonduality is closer to truth than duality. But why? Why is that? Lower self: Well the other day we were dissecting these paradoxes, in which a statement can be right and wrong at the same time, which got us thinking about all of the dualities in the world, ie all of the seemingly opposite things.. such as boy vs girl, positive vs negative, right vs wrong, right vs left, good vs evil. What we discovered is that it is really all one thing, everything is enveloped into one thing. Now what is that thing that everything is enveloped into... That is what we are here to find out.. to summarize, all dualities are an illusion that the human mind has made up in order to categorize things for its own survival needs. Okay now what is next after finding out about nonduality. I feel as though I am missing something there, I don't feel true clarity on the subject. Higher self: Why don't you feel clarity? Lower self: I don't know.. I feel as though I still don't understand what a paradox is.. Higher self: Okay.. then let's go through one.. non-existence exists. Two seemingly opposite statements yet somehow the statement is true, it's true and false at the same time (seemingly) Lower self: This is a paradox. It doesn't make sense to the human brain because we live in a world where we think dualities exist when they really do not. Dualities are not real, the world is non dual. These sorts of statements prove this. Higher self: How and why do these paradoxical statements prove that nonduality is more true than duality? Lower self: Because for a statement to have two polar opposites elements within it and also make sense or be accurate, that means that there must be an issue with the duality of the two opposite elements. If non existence and existence are actually the same thing at its core, then the statement "non-existence exists" would make sense because they do not contradict each other. Us humans have defined these two things as opposites, but in reality they are not. Higher self: Existence does not exist. Is this statement true? Lower self: Not true. Existence does exist. Existence is the existing of something, it is there, it is present, therefore "Existence does not exist" is a false statement. Higher self: What about true and false, isn't that a duality that, according to you, is "just an illusion?" Here lies the problem, you are saying that nonduality is true or at least more true than duality, but at the same time you are using the duality of true and false in the work that you are doing right now. Isn't that contradictory? If duality is made up or false then what is the difference between true and false? There shouldn't be any difference if there are no opposites, which means that there shouldn't be any difference between what is true and what is false, correct? Yet you are sitting over there saying this statement is true and that statement is false. Lower self: Hmmm...
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Lol, I don't want to accept? Says fucking who? Of course I didn't pull any of this out of thin air. Neither did you (or anyone else, for that matter). Where would you be without Leo's videos, this forum, Sadguru's teachings? Where would Leo be without all of the stuff he's been studying over the past decade? Where would Sadguru be without his Indian upbringing and studies of Yogic traditions? See, that's the magic of duality: All things are interconnected in an endless divine dance, touching, nudging and influencing each other, passing along the torch and sharing the common energy. Where do you draw the line between "your" wisdom and someone else's? Between "your" life story and that of other people? And yet there is the appearance of otherness that makes life so endlessly entertaining and fascinating; and yet there is "me" over here and "you" over there! THAT is the paradoxical beauty of existence! And yet you use the persona to get ahead in life and have an absolute ball along the way. I mean, just look at us two jokers, pretending to be two different people, arguing and bickering for the sheer glorious heck of it! THIS is what puts all beauty and spice into life, for heaven's sake! Don't you see it? Duality is the greatest gift that God has ever created for itself. Without it, you could not have any experience of any kind whatsoever, so learn to appreciate it, my friend. Like I said in the previous post: The fact that there are black letters on a white screen in front of me is proof of duality (aka. form). Sure, duality is "just an appearance", but that appearance itself is an undeniable aspect of reality. But guess what, duality and nonduality are not really opposed to each other; they are nothing but two sides of the exact same coin, two complementary facets of the oneness of existence. Look at this picture: What do you see? My guess is that you see a circle with black and white shapes inside. Right? But wait... how can this be? Isn't all just one? Then how can there possibly be black on the one side and white on the other? Shouldn't it just be one uniformous blob of... nothing? Well, here's the divine joke of existence: Black and white are different from each other (because otherwise you could not perceive/experience them), and yet they form one big whole which is all one. They are different, and yet the are same! Just like two dance partners who perform different moves and yet dance the same dance. And the big paradoxical mindfuck is that without the appearance of non-unity, the unity of the whole would not be visible! As I said, it's a giant paradox. Don't even try to understand it intellectually... just put on your dancing shoes and join the fun.
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Again... "I am a man, not a woman". Your words, not mine. Being a man vs. being a woman = duality. The relative aspect of existence. Being Consciousness/All That Is = nonduality. The absolute aspect of existence. When you are referring to yourself as "Javier" during your day-to-day interactions with other people, you are paying tribute to the relative aspect of existence. When you come to this subforum and put on your Mr. Awakened Guy persona, you are also immersed in the game of relativity/duality... you just don't (seem to) realize it. Are you interested in keeping this body alive? If so, why? If the body is a tool, then what are you using it for? These are all questions that pertain to the relative domain. You are both the form and that which is aware of it. AT ALL TIMES. You are literally EVERYTHING, don't you see? Or rather, consciousness is everything... the dream as well as the dreamer. Is this paradoxical? Yes. But that doesn't mean that it isn't true.
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Oppositionless replied to Butters's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
reposting from my journal: how monadology /absolute solipsism differs from nonduality The Mind At Large in Bernardo Kastrup’s theory, the mind at large divides itself into multiple perspectives. Kastrup doesn’t believe mind at large is particularly intelligent, as it is a simple primordial consciousness. upon death the individual’s consciousness becomes one with the mind at large Absole Solipsism in contrast, absolute solipsism recognizes that the Self is absolutely exclusive. there is no merging with the mind at large because the Self IS a mind at large, one of an infinite number of minds at large. Therefore God, the totality, is not a simple primordial consciousness but the totality of infinite soverign Selfs or Monads. in other words, God is not a simple substance, God is infinite complexity of infinite souls interrelating with one another. the individual “I” is not a temporary dissociation from the mind at large, it’s an absolute. -
how monadology /absolute solipsism differs from nonduality The Mind At Large in Bernardo Kastrup’s theory, the mind at large divides itself into multiple perspectives. Kastrup doesn’t believe mind at large is particularly intelligent, as it is a simple primordial consciousness. upon death the individual’s consciousness becomes one with the mind at large Absole Solipsism in contrast, absolute solipsism recognizes that the Self is absolutely exclusive. there is no merging with the mind at large because the Self IS a mind at large, one of an infinite number of minds at large. Therefore God, the totality, is not a simple primordial consciousness but the totality of infinite soverign Selfs or Monads. in other words, God is not a simple substance, God is infinite complexity of infinite souls interrelating with one another. the individual “I” is not a temporary dissociation from the mind at large, it’s an absolute.
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Ok I will explain this simple method that I noticed it helped me a lot. 1) start watching the video 2) leo now is explaining this fact that you heard a lot from him, now the first trap is continuing watching the video tricking your self that you understand what leo says. Notice how you don't really understand that. 3) pause the video 4) write what you liked in a short note, just a single statment 5) start thinking and contemplating deeply and appreciating what really leo says 6) keep contemplating untill you reach the bottom of you current ability to contemplate, you will know it when you reach it 7) start the video again and repeat all of the above. * Watching a single video of leo videos will take many hours doing this method but you feel the difference and how silly you were thinking you were getting what really says.
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Leo Gura replied to EugeneTheSage's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are many women mystical people but female spirituality is different in style. They are more like witches, fortune tellers, Reiki people. Example: Teal Swan. Strict nonduality/awakening has a masculine bias baked into it. Most women will not find it appealing. However they will find stuff like yoga or witchcraft appealing. -
Mikesinfinity replied to Mikesinfinity's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Danioover9000 Glad you found it interesting. I don’t see exactly how the video relates to this thread or if it’s meant to, but sure. I didn’t listen to the whole thing, they covered a lot subjects in a short time so I don’t have the full context for the conversation but I can comment on some things I heard them talk about in the first third of the video. He was talking about these spiritual communities and satsangs and I agree with some of his criticism as I have seen it in person myself. I’m not really that interested in these spiritual communities anymore, if it’s zen, buddhism, nonduality or whatever. Besides other problems, like abuses from the guru that might occur in some cases, from my own observation people usually stop thinking for themselves once they have found a group they connect with and have someone with a certain vibe they like, telling them what to think. Not that some aspects of it couldn’t be valuable and very much could help people, it’s just not how I roll. I’ll share a personal example. Some years ago I went to a Rupert Spira retreat in the Netherlands and I met another swede there who was also into nonduality, so when we both were back in Sweden again we continued to meet and talk about this stuff but after awhile it became clear to me that he was mostly re-iterating stuff that I’ve heard Rupert say a million times, but in swedish. To the point that I could take some typical Rupert phrase and put it in a translator and that word for word translation would be something he could say or write to me. He didn’t even have his own words to describe it, just being a parrot. At the same time he didn’t really want to engage in discussing things seriously while also becoming more smug about the whole thing. I called bullshit and haven’t seen him since. It’s easy to repeat words and play with semantics but if they don’t lead to an actual tangible re-contextualization then it’s not really that interesting. The guy in the video also talked a bit about his own experience of first reaching a conceptual understanding before a direct experience and yeah, I definitely think there is a difference between understanding something through logic or conclusions rather than a direct experience but I wouldn’t say there is a need to pick a side and dismissing the other, both have importance in my opinion. Some of us are more conceptual and like to play along with concepts and some of us don’t. It’s interesting when you do both. I’ve experienced some spiritual people using shame tactics against me when I’m using logical reasoning. And then when I go and talk to my normie buddies they call it all woo and says it all goes against science lol. Quite a predicament to be in. I think it also depends on where you are on the spiral dynamics scale and that we can’t exclude psychology from this. This might tie back to the criticism of the spiritual communities. I think some people who are in the pre-rational stage of cognitive development might hear spiritual concepts and because their mind doesn’t feel like it needs evidence for anything they rely on gut feeling or the vibe of the guru that’s telling them stuff and might just ”accept” spiritual concepts right away without even digging or thinking for themselves. And then to strengthen their newly formed belief-system that haven’t really been validated in direct experience they instead group together to feel more right about their self-perceived to be superior spiritual ideology and perhaps even demonize some other group. I mean, that sums up a lot of religion. And then the rational people instead misunderstands what it’s all about and lumps it all together with those religions and people who are in that pre-rational stage. For me growing up in a highly secularized community with atheistic, or at most agnostic, parents and being mostly stage green my primary challenge has been to overcome skeptical arguments that came up as I was having experiences I couldn’t explain. So I tried to make sense of it from my materialistic worldview, which I couldn’t really. Stuff like psychedelics really doesn’t make sense under the materialistic paradigm, the explanations given very fast becomes incoherent, which was the point of discussing the AI, to see how it would react when it's shown its incoherencies. So I don't see it as constructing something new, rather a discovery that what was thought of as reality is something constructed. If there is a model that I’m deconstructing the deconstructing of it isn't itself more construction, unless I make it so. It depends on what’s left after the deconstructing business is done. Maybe I’m making it into something else, very possible so gotta watch out always. It would be similar to those who make a big deal out of being skeptics. Being skeptical and viewed as being skeptical becomes more important itself than using skepticism as a tool in the pursuit of truth so they in many cases cynically just dismiss things which could be true because their identity is tied to looking like a skeptic, which also in mainstream society is associated with intelligence so they are trying to remain on their high horses. I see it with a lot of scientists and public intellectuals right now with this whole UFO thing going on lol Anyway, sorry to ramble on but that’s my thoughts so far. -
How exactly does this work? Everything just happens? If you look at neo advaita teachers like Tony Parsons or Jim Newman, they are always radical about it, saying there is no one home, and thus there is no free will. So what about murderers, serial killers, pedophiles, serious drug addicts etc? They have no free will? They don't have a choice in killing someone or staying addicted to heroin? I don't understand how this works. Also addictions in general. Do you actually have no choice wether you are addicted and stay addicted to a subtance?