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That which appears to awaken: never awakened. Nothing is asleep everything is wide awake aliveness.

I think you can intuit that it’s real. By hearing “awakened people” speak you can pick up on authenticity, sensing that they’re genuinely coming from a place of, let’s say, no self, in contrast to others who speak from a place of self. This intuition can be developed, I think it’s related to your degree of openness, how dense your self is. But ideally you wanna confirm it in your own direct experience Also, what you consider “real” is anything with a limit. So if you adopt the idea that awakening is real, you can’t help but to put it into a category of “something”, “an experience”, like everything else, although an unique one. Awakening might not fit into that definition of “real”, because it transcends limitations.

Is awakening even real. I believe being "Awakened" is a spiritual fantasy. Rather, we are awakening. Because we are all human beings, we make mistakes, make bad decisions, blunder, etc. We all slip up. I believe you have to first define what awakening is for you. Mine is reaching a level where you no longer idenitfy with your thoughts and feelings. You don't carry around that emotional baggage with you. You do this effortlessly throughout the days. But I make no claims that I've completely dissovled my ego. So before you ask, "Is Awakening Even Real?" What does Awakening look like to you? I'm curious.

I’ve been thinking a lot about the materialistic paradigm lately and what naive realism really mean and the more I question it the more layers I discover, subtly influencing how I’m holding everything appearing. Sometimes when I talk to ”normal people” about there being no distinction between inside and outside they don’t really understand that because how the sense of objects being outside seems to be such a foundational construction. Most people, I’ve discovered, don’t even think about it the way scientists might think of it, as there being an internally brain generated world, but instead much more simply. And for myself there still comes up objections about this because this is so deeply ingrained and to question it seems very counterintuitive at first. Also, we all have different kind of minds and some of us have a more scientific backdrop and don’t accept things willy nilly and have more deconstructing and re-contextualization to do. Personally, I have a very skeptical mind so simply ”dropping” things and rest in being isn’t as easy as it might be for someone that doesn’t have that kind of mind. The dropping part comes naturally for me when the objections no longer come up. So I like to come up with analogies the give me clearer thinking about this. The common conception of the body, perceiving and the world is similar to if we would have a flashlight in a dark room. So we turn the flashlight on and we have a line between where it’s light and where it’s dark. The line is kind of fuzzy but there is still ”within” the light and ”outside” the light. We think there exists something outside the light and if we would turn around the flashlight the objects that were previously lit now still exists but are in the dark. We usually think of our bodies this way, like flashlights moving around in the dark, lighting up a pre-existing world. The body is like the ”flashlight”, perceiving or seeing is like the ”light” and the objects in the dark that’s being lit up is like the ”external world”. So if you think of yourself as a body the objects seems to be outside, in the same way as the objects that’s being lit up by the flashlight are outside of the flashlight. If we remove the idea that there is anything outside the light, the objects within the light stop existing in relationship to anything outside and the flashlight itself also disappears as it’s also not within the light. So back to my question, do you at some level still view yourself similar to that flashlight, or do you view yourself as the whole ”light field” without objects or a body outside of it? Or maybe neither?

Many many posts on the forum regarding awakening. Judging those on the path. Judging what we talk about as a 'measure if how awake you are'. 'Awake people wouldn't do this, or that, or whateverthefuck' 'Why ask this' 'Who is asking?' Just stop. You are going the opposite way - union is the goal If you have been doing the work for a time, you know it is a journey. You are the process. This is a hugely underrated video from Leo (get ready for the old-school Zen-stick Leo). I personally revisit this one often. If anyone has glossed over this once or missed it entirely - or resisted it (You should look into that :P) I highly recommend it. Newbies, veterans, awakened... one of the images will resonate. Enjoy:

I'm not saying I go around saying experience is an illusion and therefore this food I'm eating for breakfast before I go visit my family is not happening so I sit there and do nothing since experience is an illusion. This stuff cannot be actualized and practiced and be consciously chosen. It is that very fact why experience seems to exist in the first place. It is it's own 'being' but a person comes in and says they're having an experience. It is not your experience, it is just experience. I'm just pointing that out when I say that. There's an I here so I'm not denying my own experiences. I'm not expecting you to do anything in this regard because you can't because you're not doing or having an experience in the first place to do or not do something about. It's just forum talk that means nothing and denied by a me who seeks meaning and purpose and saying experience is an illusion doesn't add anything to that, it takes away. It's the only reason why it's not attractive to you to hear that. "I have awakened" seems like a more attractive thing to entertain for the me so it comes on a forum and advertise it to the other me's it created and imagined and tell them it awoke to Solipsism while having a never-ending discussion about it to the others that aren't there. You need to awaken to insanity, not solipsism.

He has awakened to feeling inferior and incomplete - so to feel better/bigger/superior/a man WE MUST SQUASH OTHERS

No, the dream is in and out of it's own dream. It gets a taste of reality which is nothing but it keeps on dreaming by concepting and ideaing and arguing with people on forums to maintain itself. If it didn't along with all the other normal human things it does, it would just be nothing. Pure energy, it doesn't want that so it keeps on trucking and dreaming up experience and direct experiencing itself into thinking it has awakened when the truth of the matter is it is deep sleep, being - being someone that awakened and is arguing with princess on a forum. Nothing is actually happening - literally. This isn't youtube talk and nonduality bullshit it learnt from yt this is deep sleep yapping away as a lucid dream, and it knows this not from knowledge but something its also being and that is intuition. Something knows this, but it's not a knowing, it's an unknowing. Like it retreats back into itself because it can, as it can be anything as it is unlimited and free. Experience is an illusion. It cannot experience itself.

Meh. Just more rage bait. Have fun engaging if you want but it's not gonna go anywhere useful. Not sure why you feel the need to come here and preach anyways OP. If you really knew what's up, why would you care to at all? Why haven't you just logged off, ay? Now you're going to waste your time here debating. What's it about OP? But yes- everyone besides you doesn't know the truth. Everyone else isn't awakened like you!! They're just nonsense!! So obvious something isn't quite right with you, mate. But these words won't do anything will they! So good luck with that and may you have a nice evening.

What have you awakened to and what have you awakened from?

It's simple. I have awakened, and when I see people that say things that aren't awakening, it's easy to spot. Like when someone is telling you bullshit on any other subject you have expertise in, you can tell. I don't need to be able to see the world through someone else's eyes to know they have a fake awakening. When someone is talking about how you don't exist, you don't even have any experience, there's nothing to do and nowhere to get, it doesn't take a Ph.d to realize they're just blindly believing nondual teachers on YouTube. I cannot stop laughing at how this wouldn't be obvious to you.

I didn't want to go to a specific thing like chakras or daemons. I know that it creates conflicts since it's like a religion. As I mentioned in my initial post, I know that nothing of all of it is real from an awakened point of view. But in this duality there might be things that actually exist but are hidden to the normal eye. Beside chakras there are also those stories about Atlantis and some chronicles of whatever. Until now, I've always smiled about it. But maybe I'm wrong. And that's what I want to find out. Either through the direct experience of others telling me what the know or ... I just need to find out by myself and try Ayahuasca again

I have always been involved in philosophy and spirituality at a high level. But I've had an ‘awakening’ watching Leo's video over solopsism. It was the last puzzle piece that was missing. I am very aware of this at the moment. without meditations and without dmt or other Psychedelics i have reached this level. Leo mentions in ‘his’ video that it took ‘him’ a lot of time and effort to get to this level, so I'll let you know: I reached it just only by watching the solopsism video. like I said: that video was the last puzzle piece that was still missing. I must say that I was ready for it and therefore now experience it very beautiful and also laughable without ‘emotions’ in a good way, haha. So just to clarify: i am god, my choices are made by god (no free will) and "i" experience this from this perspective in an infinite continuity of consciousness. birth, school, mother "everyone" is I (God) myself, so that I can occupy myself with fooling. "everyone" or "other" is self-deception. i am ‘everyone’ and ‘everyone’ is me. It's actually that simple. I realize that I am everything and everything is god. Sooo to let ‘you’ know much respect @Leo Gura? be aware if 'you' are not ready it can affect ‘you’ in a negative way. feel that ‘you’ want to know the truth there it is

I never said you didn't have an awakening. The only awakening that can take place is the dream awakening to itself. NOTHING, which is God/Absolute/All there is, cannot awaken to itself because it is everything. "Awaken to" is duality, which is not really happening but only to an observer. The person that was born and will die is the one that awakened, it actually didn't awaken it fell asleep. Now it's awake again without the substance.

Replace the I AM dream with God and it is so. Everything else is just nothing being everything including your awakening. It's the dream of separation which is also the dream of I AM. I AM is all there is in that reality and that is Solipsism. There is only the I AM to itself. Without the I AM there is only what is, being. Look into every nook and cranny of what you said and that's the construction of the I AM to a tee except the God forgetting who it is part. God didn't forget anything you are remembering as the dream. The dream is storytelling to itself. The dream has awakened to itself, but it doesn't realize it's a dream.

Jesus is just the shortened Je suis, I am, That, I am. It's not a french perfume brand. The man Jesus was the awakened I am as the name infers. Christianity is an optional extra.

Welp. Guess I’m fully awakened now because I have zero fear of death since being saved by Jesus. In fact I kinda look forward to it now. No amount of self realization was able to do that for me. It was all Jesus

One can't get around this condition, and neither is it wrong nor negative, though we might tacitly believe otherwise. Rather than treating it as ignorance to be avoided, we should recognize that such dismissal reflects our cultural relationship with "knowledge" itself. It is the source of knowledge, learning, insight, and creativity - the closest thing we have to direct consciousness. Consider the contrast between ourselves and someone like Gautama, who was presumably "fully awakened." What does that contrast reveal about us? Do we truly grasp everything there is? At present, we are not in touch with the nature of anything - and we might not even be aware of that yet! It has to be experienced deeply. And this, paradoxically, is a powerful place to stand. Not sure where I'm going with that, but it may be of some use.

So, you think you are enlightened? I was born enlightened. You say the Bhagavad Gita is symbolic of the inner fight, that every human has between the ego and the divine? I call bs. It is revelation that war is inevetible and divine. Here is story of the true spiritual king warrior: As to be of service to humanity I allowed myself to forget that I am a 6th density Cosmic white Nobility being from a star castle in a galaxy far away. As a male child I was raped by reptilian humanoids and small greys in my parallel life and got psychic abilities, inwhich I recently discovered by deciphering a decade old channeled message. I was on three 20&backs. Meaning, I got transported to other planets to serve for the military conglomerate as an intuitive empath. After 20 years of service, I was age regressed and transported back in time to where I got picked up. Now that happened 3 times in a row. My body became so frail of this service that when the Mayan breakaway civilisation picked me up, they were not allowed to heal me due to insufficient karma. Then the Anshar from inner earth took me in. On a crystal table I was greeted by a priestess, she had a phallic crystal that she waved in front of me, then all shadow beings flew away from my body. At that moment I remembered my mission. My mission is to upgrade the civilisation of humanity. To see if humanity is ready I started an experiment: On the east coast. My Heart disciples would practice - Total celibacy - Run ultra marathons - Bombard news agencies when I was hungry to be in the spotlight. - Do "crimes" when their Guru demanded ( like smuggling exotic animals into my hidden zoo in one of my 4 houses). On the west coast. My Mind disciples would practice - Sex in public - do drugs and alchohol - Help the homeless by giving them a chance to vote in our community. - Do crimes behind Gurus back, but in favor of Guru. ( like poisoning politicians and doctors that give drugs to Guru) By the Guidance of Archangel Michael. I teach my students the Zen Buddhist way of releasing attachment through bowel movement. The explosive ones can heal trauma. Do not forget to pee in your bathtub while bathing, that is to gain Siddhis along the way. My disciples do not need to meditate or practice loving thoughts. They are all entitled to Rainbow body status when the sun sends a magical pulse. I do not remember which year each star sends a pulse but it will happen "very soon". Then I will be ambassador for welcoming the aliens to earth by Trump. I deserve it, I worked hard! For my temples around the globe and for my disciples who cannot be near my feet. They will have a picture of me in a state of Samadhi. They will meditate on the picture with half open eyes. At home they will meditate on my picture. If they want to whatever reason discard the picture, they must let it out into the sea, for it is holy. Good boys and girls get a statue of me placed in their city, babies are called the newbie disciples. For 333$ anyone can purchase my course on the astral body chakra system. I once singlehandedly infiltrated a movement to change all the eastern spiritual scriptures for my Clairvoyant visions. There i introduced my book on chakras, later the movement split into 4 parts, such an impact I made! At my spare time. We catch Celebrities in public to take a photo with me. Then hang the pictures around my temples, so my followers know that we are the real deal. Then I go to the gym and lift 9000 pound weights with one arm while my disciple takes a picture at the right angle #mindovermatter. My disciples morning meditation is to visualize me winning the Nobel peace prize, my disciples in the UN work to make it happen, cause I deserve it. When I take a rest, I put my cool sunglasses on and take a selfie while I fight Satan and his shadow army on the astral plane. I have a blogger to post this story to reveal my amazing lightwarrior status. As a side hustle. I livestream every week about my (prophetic) dreams from 1999, inwhich i tie to current political situation and the insider Qanon. While i send cryptic messages to the resistance movement, from another planet, inside earth, that no resus monkey brain can understand. Do not forget the big superchats, they put a smile on my face! The divine mother put me in a position to recieve money from you. So that you can practice giving. I could easily go to casino and manifest money, but I would not take away your collective learning of giving. My guides give me the opportunity to practice humility through luxury. For 1 million in donation. You get a ticket to my retreat + a 1 hour dinner with me. For 3 million in donation. All the above + a thank you note. For 5 million in donation. All the above + a shoutout from our sponsor GaiaTv. Rollce Royce donations are also appreciated. I recently got a chemical by mail. I intuitively administrated it rectaly and experienced ultimate states of couscioussness, never seen by anyone in the universe, in my bathtub. Now I attained mahasamadhi by inducing a heart attack on my body. # (Between % and # are stories and claims made by (mostly self-proclaimed) spiritual teachers, Prophets, Avatar and the most awakened human on the planet. Obviously the claims are not quoted exactly as they said it, but it is mixed into this one character of unfathomable stupidity. One common thread amongst these claims is one word: America. ) Thus I present to you, Master America. 🇺🇸 I hope no one has yet claimed that title.

I’m curious to your thoughts on using psychedelics in the path. To some it seems like catalyst, to others a huge delusion and distraction/addiction (Aubrey Marcus comes to mind) What hangs me up is that they can never permanently change your state or keep you awakened. They also seem aggressive on your nervous system. And come with high risk. Many great teachers - Ramana , Wilber, Yogananda, Sahajananda, Ralston, Igor, Rupert, Adyashanti who live in awakened states of consciousness never recommend psychedelics. My take is that they are helpful to open the mind and show what’s possible, but like Alan Watts says hang up the phone once you got it

The photos have a strange beauty to them, showing the power of standing for something and also the depth of consciousness in that monk. @Emotionalmosquito I def agree most awakened people would suffer less but still even the most awakened would have a serious disdain toward being tortured and not just be blissed out. At best they’d go into Witness Consciousness to get through it

Well, see this. Say I kidnap you and we go to my torture chambers. If I really tortured you, there will come a point where you will beg for me to stop, and you will cry and implore for me to return you to your life. Even if your life is average, and you are a cynic(not saying this is the case just an example lol), an egotist, and you have financial problems, you will beg for me to return you to your average life. In this begging, the burried love is revealed. Avoidance of pain is subconscious love. Love doesn't need to be hot(like in an orgarsm or psychedelic experience), love can be subtle, and it can even be hidden and unconscious. Most people does not experience hot love in daily life(like I imagine an awakened person experience) but I would say most experience unconscious love, which is basically fear and avoidance of pain lol.

Even an awakened person will suffer deeply if they are tortured. I don’t give a shit how conscious they are

I think it def gets fun after you break all your habits, delusions, and addictions which can be quite painful and require grinding. Or else everyone would be awakened and happy which is not the case. But I see your point. It’s a balancing act but it does get to a point (at least IME) where the disciplines become fun in themselves they are no longer a grind. I also agree it’s highly subjective and one must listen to themselves. I’ve gotten the clear message/warning to drop psychedelics and it’s working great for me. I have no desire to go back

How else should I take anything? I'm a person right? Isn't that the fun of it? Look..you're right sitting around here all day is going to get you absolutely nowhere when it comes to truth. However it will get you much further than a philosophy class in college. Those classes suck. Here you get advanced material from awakened beings. There you get an average professor in a rat race for the highest salary. So there is that. The discussions here are productive- but they won't get you to Absolute Truth. If you want that - again do the practices.