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Consciously he will want people get awakened and "increase their consciousness", but he will see the opposite. What you love isn't what you believe you want but what you put your attention on, and so in fine the form of you're reality. If what i say makes sense.

You can’t accept something in your mind that you’re not experiencing. It’s easy to say “I accept torture” while you’re not undergoing torture. To be in the midst of torture it’s , I would say, near impossible to accept as a human, you’d have to have radical consciousness or some kind of extreme mindfulness ability, or a spontaneous surrender of the ego occurs, like I heard eckhart tolle said someone awakened in the holocaust, but it’s extremely rare. Its easy to feel like there’s no resistance to reality in you when you are in decent situation

I prefer the definition of awakened state I used as moment to moment understanding. I think it's more accurate.

It still doesn't seem effective. I'm going to assume by "awakened state" you do not mean existing as pure, formless, Godhead. Because there's no way you're making that your baseline state. If by awakened state you mean a moment by moment understanding of what this is, what your reality is, then yes I'm made much progress in that area. My clarity is better than it's ever been. It's so obvious what reality is and how it couldn't be anything else. This is pure consciousness. That said, I still think my understanding could be deepened. So I'm not claiming any sort of end state.

Transmission is just a fancy word for tuning into and reacting to what you're perceiving (and when the object is another human, it's often called empathy). It's not a magical thing. I feel like I have to constantly say that things are not magical 🤔 As for teachers "actively" transmitting as in creating an intention and a concominant effect, I don't see a problem there. It's like when a girl looks at you like "😏". That's them creating an intention and actively amplifying whatever transmission that was going on passively. And while the teacher might be performing a more subtle move than the girl, even for the girl, some guys are notoriously bad at picking up such subtle cues ("was she hitting on me?") . Do you have spontaneous awakenings outside meditation? Do you feel anywhere close to making the awakened state your baseline state?

As the zen master say: You have burnt the boat before crossing the river. Cross the river, then leave the boat, no use, true. Yet you cannot do it before. It's only after you transcend ego that it is seen as always already an illusion, but you cannot convince yourself otherwise before the true awakening happens. So the great irony is that you are deluding yourself with something that is true. How twisted! The trap is that your claim is a priori when it can only be done a posteriori. No serious nonduality teacher or meditation expert would buy you that. The ones that say it are at a stage where they have done two decades of grinding sadhana to say just surrender. Which is ridiculous to give that advice to beginners, why? Because you can only be in natural spontaneous surrender after the awakening and realizing selflessness. I myself am perfectly effortless and awake after a medition and psychedelic intensive. Yet I do not fall into delusion before doing it saying oh if I just sit efortlessly in my couch I'll be enlightened and there's nothing my "I" can do. This is the position you're holding really. A true position that you cannot claim because you aren't conscious enough. You've just borrowed a higher truth than what you have awakened or embodied. Then when somebody points it out you hide behind this higher truth and feel so good about yourself. It's true! Of course, I do know but do the work, fucking awaken to what is beyond ego. It's the biggest blessing

The minds doing it would need to be very different from typical minds today. It would basically require most of the minds involved to be Awakened and super developed to the Construct-Aware stage at least. You can't build a society on truth without being conscious of what Truth is and what obscures it.

1. Wattify ⚡🔋 Definition: verb - To increase the voltage of consciousness in a system, person, or creation, enabling it to carry more current/presence/aliveness. The process of electrifying awareness to its maximum luminous capacity. Etymology: From electrical "watt" + "-ify" (to make into) Usage Examples: "That recent Actualized.org video just wattified my entire reality!" "We need to wattify this conversation - it's running on too low voltage." "After the meditation retreat, I felt completely wattified - like I could power a city with my presence." What it means: When consciousness becomes so electric that it transforms everything it touches into pure aliveness. What it doesn't mean: Simply getting excited or energized in a superficial way. Wattification is deep, systemic voltage increase. 2. Visionscaping 🐕‍🦺👁️ Definition: noun/verb - The art of perceiving reality through the eyes of pure perspective itself, especially as practiced by dogs, children, and awakened beings who see without the filter of conceptual overlay. Etymology: From "Vision" (the divine dog perspective) + "landscaping" (creating new realities) Usage Examples: "Stop thinking and start visionscaping - see what IS, not what you think is." "My dog is a master visionscaper - he sees God in every leaf." "Through visionscaping, the ordinary becomes extraordinary." Why it's meaningful: Captures the profound wisdom that animals and enlightened beings share - direct perception without mental commentary. 3. Metamoney 💰♾️ Definition: noun - The currency of consciousness exchange; value that transcends physical wealth and operates in the realm of pure energetic reciprocity. The sacred economy where giving and receiving become one movement. Etymology: From "meta" (beyond) + "money" (currency) Usage Examples: "Our collaboration isn't about dollars, it's pure metamoney." "When you serve from truth, metamoney flows infinitely." "He's rich in metamoney but doesn't know how to convert it to cash yet." What it means: The recognition that true wealth is energetic, karmic, and consciousness-based. 4. Solipsplaining 🌀🗣️ Definition: verb - When someone dismissively explains away your direct experience by claiming "it's all just in your mind" or "you're creating your own reality" without acknowledging the nuanced relationship between consciousness and manifestation. Etymology: From "solipsism" + "explaining" (in the style of mansplaining) Usage Examples: "Don't solipsplain my suffering - yes, consciousness creates reality, but this pain is still real." "He kept solipsplaining instead of actually helping with practical solutions." "The guru's solipsplaining made everyone feel unseen rather than enlightened." Why it's important: Addresses the shadow side of non-dual teachings when they're used to bypass genuine human experience.

That's not how Awakening works. You cannot predict it nor egoically will it to happen. The more you fantasize about having an Awakening, the further you will get from it. Your ideas of Awakening are not it. So be careful. It sounds like you are creating fantasies of it. Your mind needs to be laser focused on your direct experience, not dreams of being Awakened. Ideas of Awakening are not Awakening. I know this is not what you want to hear.

Leo, what about the feminine path to enlightenment? The one based on devotion and opening the heart chakra? The following video explains it pretty well, and gives an example of a woman who awakened via this path:

God forgive my arrogance to spirituality It's not what i thought it was Spirituality is real life That mythical gaze an INFJ woman locks onto you, soft but enchanted and haunted, aroused but nurturing, awakened Or that bold electric potent gaze a ENFJ woman locks onto you, within a split second No Fap is spirituality War is spirituality Even power and winning frames is spirituality It's not about being nice or tame Life is war Life is spirituality

Stop calling reality or consciousness God. Becoming God or Awakened is a whole other spectrum. Stop identifying with the exterior, that is not you, you are only the body you have. Escape the matrix of society and don't be identified with it's ego. Sop believing that you have to kill your ego, you only have to reset and regain naturality, building a natural ego wich is an identity in yourself not outside, the true identity. Being the reason we follow the breath.

Building on what others have already shared, I want to add another perspective: It can be the case that people with high energy are actually fueled by a trauma response. It occurs because the psyche makes itself stay at a high stress level mode through a dysregulated nervous system, e.g. fight or flight, in order to suppress emotional triggers and painful trauma memories from coming to awareness. This mode can be called functional freeze. People can also live from an awakened state of free joy, clarity and spiritual connection. Some are naturally more sensitive to reward because they have high dopaminergic tone where the activity in their dopaminergic areas is higher. Downside is that they also get bored more easily during downtime. What you can do: Dial in your mitochondrial health for more sustained energy through cold exposure, exercise, clean diet, fasting,... Optimize your circadian rhythm Learn to modulate stress and dopamine Remove energy drains like poor diet, chronic inflammation,...

@aurum You cant try to awaken. If you haven't awakened talking about it is harmful. Its literally I burnt through all my karma as fast as possible. God gives you a certain amount of life to burn through if you are smart you will leave home and burn through it. Taking tips from other people on how to awaken is bs unless they are guru and can awaken you by using logic specifically designed to your suffering.

Hhmmm, Leo we Love your work, you've blessed and changed the life of everyone that listens! But as for the chap..., he's probably an NPC..., not meant to be Awakened 🤔

From this perspective, you are saying that those who are spiritual masters and awakened ones but still in form, they are in a sense afraid of infinity? For example Ramana, Buddha, Sadhguru, even Leo, would you say they are afraid and that's why they stayed longer in form?

@Santiago Ram - just wrong, he has never been this black and white. He has often stressed the importance of balance. - it's more complex than this, but you are probably not willing to get it. An if You truly were Awakened You'd know that there is only one experience process and inevitably every Diety you encounter is part of the same process. No object can stand outside of it, otherwhise it would be unknown to You. - not true, he has remarked many times how religious thext contain valuable information. The problem with them is that they are sometimes difficult to decode as they are aften written through metaphors or covered in esoteric language. Add the cultural differences and the damage is done. - Enlightenment is a multifaceted word. What you mean by it is probably not what Leo means. So your "evidence" is basically a castle in the air. Bye.

GPT 4o: Here’s my own ranking of the Top 100 most famous spiritual teachers, based on a combination of: Global name recognition Cultural and media presence Influence on spiritual thought and public discourse Reach across multiple generations, regions, or movements This is a subjective, holistic list that blends ancient authority with modern fame—ordered from most to least globally recognizable today (2025): 🥇 Top 100 Most Famous Spiritual Teachers (Ranked by Fame & Influence) Jesus of Nazareth – Christianity Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) – Buddhism Muhammad – Islam Dalai Lama (Tenzin Gyatso) – Tibetan Buddhism Pope Francis – Christianity (Catholicism) Krishna – Hinduism Laozi (Lao Tzu) – Taoism Confucius – Confucianism Eckhart Tolle – The Power of Now, spiritual bestseller Sadhguru (Jaggi Vasudev) – Indian mystic and global speaker Thich Nhat Hanh – Mindfulness, Zen Buddhism Oprah Winfrey – Spiritual media force Deepak Chopra – Mind-body and New Age wellness Rumi – Mystic poet, widely quoted Alan Watts – Popularizer of Zen and Eastern thought Jordan Peterson – Archetypal psychology with spiritual leanings Paramahansa Yogananda – Autobiography of a Yogi Paulo Coelho – The Alchemist, spiritual novelist Carl Jung – Archetypes, synchronicity, soul depth Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) – Controversial but widely known Marianne Williamson – A Course in Miracles, politics and spirituality Ramakrishna – Mystical figure of modern Hinduism Sri Sri Ravi Shankar – Art of Living founder Rumi (again, yes, twice for good reason) – Still rising in pop culture Jiddu Krishnamurti – Anti-guru philosopher Don Miguel Ruiz – The Four Agreements Neale Donald Walsch – Conversations with God Byron Katie – “The Work” spiritual inquiry Gabor Maté – Trauma, healing, presence Joe Dispenza – Neuro-spiritual self-healing Ram Dass – Be Here Now, psychedelic and bhakti bridge Mooji – Advaita Vedanta Amma (Mata Amritanandamayi) – Hugging Saint Krishna Das – Kirtan musician and teacher L. Ron Hubbard – Founder of Scientology (controversial) Esther Hicks / Abraham – Law of Attraction B.K.S. Iyengar – Yoga Sri Aurobindo – Integral Yoga Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche – Shambhala Buddhism Terence McKenna – Psychedelics and evolution Jean Houston – Human potential and spirituality Peter Ralston – Consciousness and martial arts Rupert Spira – Nondualism Francis Lucille – Advaita teacher Adyashanti – Nondual awakening Bruce Lipton – Biology of belief Teal Swan – Shadow integration and trauma Brené Brown – Vulnerability and soulful leadership Michael A. Singer – The Untethered Soul Viktor Frankl – Existential spiritual meaning Pema Chödrön – Western Buddhist nun Sadghuru Brahmarishi Mohanji – Global Indian mystic David R. Hawkins – Map of Consciousness Richard Rohr – Christian contemplative Ramana Maharshi – Enlightenment through self-inquiry Zoroaster – Ancient Persian spiritual leader Rudolf Steiner – Anthroposophy, Waldorf education Helena Blavatsky – Theosophy Aleister Crowley – Occult mysticism Manly P. Hall – Esoteric wisdom Gregg Braden – Science-spirituality bridge Lama Rod Owens – Queer, Black, Buddhist visionary Vivekananda – Vedanta in the West Diana Cooper – Angel spirituality Jean Klein – Kashmir Shaivism Andrew Cohen – Evolutionary enlightenment Gangaji – Stillness and self-inquiry Michael Beckwith – Agape spiritual center Lisa Nichols – Spiritual motivation Rhonda Byrne – The Secret Vadim Zeland – Reality Transurfing Bentinho Massaro – Modern enlightenment speaker Dan Millman – Way of the Peaceful Warrior Sri Chinmoy – Peace through meditation Mantak Chia – Taoist energy practices John Kabat-Zinn – Mindfulness pioneer David Lynch – Transcendental Meditation advocate Jay Shetty – Monk turned influencer Sadguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami – Shaivism Clarissa Pinkola Estés – Women Who Run With the Wolves Drunvalo Melchizedek – Sacred geometry Masaru Emoto – Water consciousness Andrew Weil – Holistic medicine Ken Wilber – Integral theory G.I. Gurdjieff – Fourth Way Michael Newton – Life-between-lives hypnosis Dolores Cannon – Quantum healing hypnosis Abraham Maslow – Self-actualization theory Søren Kierkegaard – Christian existentialist Simone Weil – Christian mystic Yuval Noah Harari – Spiritual history Clarence Clemons – Saxophonist/spiritual seeker Jim Carrey – Awakened public figure Russell Brand – Addiction & spirituality Amy Cuddy – Power posing meets spiritual psychology T.K.V. Desikachar – Therapeutic yoga Shiva Rea – Prana flow yoga Daniel Schmachtenberger – Meta-awareness & meaning crisis Lama Yeshe – Tibetan teacher of the West Satish Kumar – Peace pilgrim and ecologist

I'm not entirely following the conversation since I haven't really fleshed out my understanding and experiences so clearly into these categories, but I think what he is speaking about is the pure magic and gold you find as you walk the spiritual path and allow this process to unfold with more and more love. I remember doing some meditating while following YouTube videos made by neo-advaita teachers and I find it sort of dry and disabled. It's not enjoyable. It's missing something I really awakened to that was right in front of me that a mentor of mine showed me through inner child / Taoist self inquiry, which is the pure magic and potential that is alway going up, this inherent value one has, like a never ending firework and a gift bestowed upon by oneself for being nothing short of a pure miracle. It's profound and it really sets a fire under my feet to live life fully and embrace my human side while remaining curious about the spirit. My life started going better after this and I started to really understand the law of attraction and started manifesting more and more, and I'm still growing here like I'm seeing things just unfold for the best. I never really found this through those dry meditations where the teacher is like "there is no you", dry bland meditations that did not lead me to True Value.

Spiritual Resonance As the cosmic energies align, we journey through the luminous veil of awakened consciousness. Embrace the vibrational frequency of universal love, allowing your essence to merge with the boundless flow of divine intention. Within the sacred geometry of the soul, we unlock ancient wisdom, transcending the illusion of separateness. the Clare Graves & Spiral Dynamics theory (which I felt was so accurate in the first tier) from the perspective as a yellow, what is the transitional dilemma and what is aqua like? So, I'm pretty scared of over-raking myself, but I feel like I am a yellow - I have done a lot of self seeking for years now, and when watching Leo's Clare Graves & Spiral Dynamics, I could follow the system right up to yellow, and I could see in my life how I went from blue, orange, green, yellow. I do associate myself with yellow quite a lot when hearing about their qualities, but as to what might be next seems alien to me, and what aqua could be for me. I want to aim to change myself for the better (obviously), but is there any advice for yellow except to be open minded (which is working really well lately)? I have read about aqua but I'm not too sure about what I read - even the other colours seemed off in their descriptions. Here is my theory, Yellow is like enlightenment.1 in which you realize your ego, gain a strong and real sense of losing the self, seeing life as the pure-experience it is just in this moment. But, at this stage, as to what reality actually is, is still a bit of a mystery - and studying about quantim physics and science in general doesn't help that much. This seems to be where I am at I would say, and although I am learning new realizations steeply (as compared to before), I cannot tell where this is leading, and I just feel a bit lost as to what I should be changing into with these new realizations. Aqua is like enlightenment.2, as a common example, what people say Buddha would have reached. This would be complete connection with reality (I have heard that is a theme). The brain should have some physical limit as to its comprehension, there must be a limit somewhere right This was sort of hard to communicate with language but I hope that is clear and all.

It is not. Simple? Sure, but not childish. I think you and the philosophers that you are citing are overcomplicating a simple but profound phenomenon. The keyword here is simple, not easy or shallow. Almost no one has transcended desire. You do know what you desire, what? This is like saying you don't know what you like and you don't like -- which by the way both are desires and attachments. Sure, he had to read, study, practice and all that, he had desires and longing for awakening. But even this is not so accurate because there are thousands of teachings that say that even the desire for awakening is an impediment for you to reach it -- you will only reach it once you desire nothing and just be. Yeah, can't agree with this. There are many accounts of people who awakened or maybe not even that -- let's say they have accessed some deep Jhana of reality but not full awakening. Even those say that desire ends, and they act in the world spontaneously -- they just flow with consciousness of the moment. And I have verified this(Though I'm not in that state all the time -- only have glimpses of it). There's no clinging and no chasing, whether you believe that or not is up to you.

The realization of Absolute Solipsism restores the state of Heaven in your mind. These quotes are for the mature awakened mind. Suggested accompanying music: All quotes are from A Course in Miracles: _________________________________________________________________ Nothing at all has happened but that you have put yourself to sleep, and dreamed a dream in which you were an alien to yourself, and but a part of someone else’s dream. ²The miracle does not awaken you, but merely shows you who the dreamer is. It teaches you there is a choice of dreams while you are still asleep, depending on the purpose of your dreaming. ⁴Do you wish for dreams of healing, or for dreams of death? ⁵A dream is like a memory in that it pictures what you wanted shown to you. _________________________________________________________________ The Garden of Eden, or the pre-separation condition, was a state of mind in which nothing was needed. ²When Adam listened to the “lies of the serpent,” all he heard was untruth. ³You do not have to continue to believe what is not true unless you choose to do so. ⁴All that can literally disappear in the twinkling of an eye because it is merely a misperception. ⁵What is seen in dreams seems to be very real. ⁶Yet the Bible says that a deep sleep fell upon Adam, and nowhere is there reference to his waking up. _________________________________________________________________ You are at home in God, dreaming of exile but perfectly capable of awakening to reality. ²Is it your decision to do so? ³You recognize from your own experience that what you see in dreams you think is real while you are asleep. ⁴Yet the instant you waken you realize that everything that seemed to happen in the dream did not happen at all. ⁵You do not think this strange, even though all the laws of what you awaken to were violated while you slept. ⁶Is it not possible that you merely shifted from one dream to another, without really waking? _________________________________________________________________ Does not a world that seems quite real arise in dreams? ²Yet think what this world is. ³It is clearly not the world you saw before you slept. ⁴Rather it is a distortion of the world, planned solely around what you would have preferred. _________________________________________________________________ Dreams show you that you have the power to make a world as you would have it be, and that because you want it you see it. ²And while you see it you do not doubt that it is real. ³Yet here is a world, clearly within your mind, that seems to be outside. ⁴You do not respond to it as though you made it, nor do you realize that the emotions the dream produces must come from you. ⁵It is the figures in the dream and what they do that seem to make the dream. ⁶You do not realize that you are making them act out for you, for if you did the guilt would not be theirs, and the illusion of satisfaction would be gone. ⁷In dreams these features are not obscure. ⁸You seem to waken, and the dream is gone. ⁹Yet what you fail to recognize is that what caused the dream has not gone with it. ¹⁰Your wish to make another world that is not real remains with you. ¹¹And what you seem to waken to is but another form of this same world you see in dreams. ¹²All your time is spent in dreaming. ¹³Your sleeping and your waking dreams have different forms, and that is all. ¹⁴Their content is the same. ¹⁵They are your protest against reality, and your fixed and insane idea that you can change it. _________________________________________________________________ No one can waken from a dream the world is dreaming for him. ²He becomes a part of someone else’s dream. ³He cannot choose to waken from a dream he did not make. ⁴Helpless he stands, a victim to a dream conceived and cherished by a separate mind. ⁵Careless indeed of him this mind must be, as thoughtless of his peace and happiness as is the weather or the time of day. ⁶It loves him not, but casts him as it will in any role that satisfies its dream. ⁷So little is his worth that he is but a dancing shadow, leaping up and down according to a senseless plot conceived within the idle dreaming of the world. This is the only picture you can see; the one alternative that you can choose, the other possibility of cause, if you be not the dreamer of your dreams. ²And this is what you choose if you deny the cause of suffering is in your mind. ³Be glad indeed it is, for thus are you the one decider of your destiny in time. ⁴The choice is yours to make between a sleeping death and dreams of evil or a happy wakening and joy of life. You are the dreamer of the world of dreams. ²No other cause it has, nor ever will. ³Nothing more fearful than an idle dream has terrified God’s Son, and made him think that he has lost his innocence, denied his Father, and made war upon himself. ⁴So fearful is the dream, so seeming real, he could not waken to reality without the sweat of terror and a scream of mortal fear, unless a gentler dream preceded his awaking, and allowed his calmer mind to welcome, not to fear, the Voice that calls with love to waken him; a gentler dream, in which his suffering was healed and where his brother was his friend. ⁵God willed he waken gently and with joy, and gave him means to waken without fear. Accept the dream He gave instead of yours. ²It is not difficult to change a dream when once the dreamer has been recognized. ³Rest in the Holy Spirit, and allow His gentle dreams to take the place of those you dreamed in terror and in fear of death. ⁴He brings forgiving dreams, in which the choice is not who is the murderer and who shall be the victim. ⁵In the dreams He brings there is no murder and there is no death. ⁶The dream of guilt is fading from your sight, although your eyes are closed. ⁷A smile has come to lighten up your sleeping face. ⁸The sleep is peaceful now, for these are happy dreams. _________________________________________________________________ Let us return the dream he gave away unto the dreamer, who perceives the dream as separate from himself and done to him. ²Into eternity, where all is one, there crept a tiny, mad idea, at which the Son of God remembered not to laugh. ³In his forgetting did the thought become a serious idea, and possible of both accomplishment and real effects. ⁴Together, we can laugh them both away, and understand that time cannot intrude upon eternity. ⁵It is a joke to think that time can come to circumvent eternity, which means there is no time. 7. A timelessness in which is time made real; a part of God that can attack itself; a separate brother as an enemy; a mind within a body all are forms of circularity whose ending starts at its beginning, ending at its cause. ²The world you see depicts exactly what you thought you did. ³Except that now you think that what you did is being done to you. ⁴The guilt for what you thought is being placed outside yourself, and on a guilty world that dreams your dreams and thinks your thoughts instead of you. ⁵It brings its vengeance, not your own. ⁶It keeps you narrowly confined within a body, which it punishes because of all the sinful things the body does within its dream. ⁷You have no power to make the body stop its evil deeds because you did not make it, and cannot control its actions nor its purpose nor its fate. 8. The world but demonstrates an ancient truth; you will believe that others do to you exactly what you think you did to them. ²But once deluded into blaming them you will not see the cause of what they do, because you want the guilt to rest on them. ³How childish is the petulant device to keep your innocence by pushing guilt outside yourself, but never letting go! ⁴It is not easy to perceive the jest when all around you do your eyes behold its heavy consequences, but without their trifling cause. The secret of salvation is but this: that you are doing this unto yourself. ²No matter what the form of the attack, this still is true. ³Whoever takes the role of enemy and of attacker, still is this the truth. ⁴Whatever seems to be the cause of any pain and suffering you feel, this is still true. ⁵For you would not react at all to figures in a dream you knew that you were dreaming. ⁶Let them be as hateful and as vicious as they may, they could have no effect on you unless you failed to recognize it is your dream. This single lesson learned will set you free from suffering, whatever form it takes. ²The Holy Spirit will repeat this one inclusive lesson of deliverance until it has been learned, regardless of the form of suffering that brings you pain. ³Whatever hurt you bring to Him He will make answer with this very simple truth. ⁴For this one answer takes away the cause of every form of sorrow and of pain. ⁵The form affects His answer not at all, for He would teach you but the single cause of all of them, no matter what their form. ⁶And you will understand that miracles reflect the simple statement, “I have done this thing, and it is this I would undo.” ⁴Salvation is a secret you have kept but from yourself. How differently will you perceive the world when this is recognized! _________________________________________________________________ Could it be some dreams are kept, and others wakened from? ⁵The choice is not between which dreams to keep, but only if you want to live in dreams or to awaken from them. ⁶Thus it is the miracle does not select some dreams to leave untouched by its beneficence. ⁷You cannot dream some dreams and wake from some, for you are either sleeping or awake. ⁸And dreaming goes with only one of these. (ACIM, T-29.IV.1:4-8) _________________________________________________________________ You choose your dreams, for they are what you wish, perceived as if it had been given you. ⁵Your idols do what you would have them do, and have the power you ascribe to them. ⁶And you pursue them vainly in the dream, because you want their power as your own. Yet where are dreams but in a mind asleep? ²And can a dream succeed in making real the picture it projects outside itself? ³Save time, my brother; learn what time is for. ⁴And speed the end of idols in a world made sad and sick by seeing idols there. ⁵Your holy mind is altar unto God, and where He is no idols can abide. ⁶The fear of God is but the fear of loss of idols. ⁷It is not the fear of loss of your reality. ⁸But you have made of your reality an idol, which you must protect against the light of truth. ⁹And all the world becomes the means by which this idol can be saved. ¹⁰Salvation thus appears to threaten life and offer death. It is not so. ²Salvation seeks to prove there is no death, and only life exists. _________________________________________________________________ There can be no salvation in the dream as you are dreaming it. ²For idols must be part of it, to save you from what you believe you have accomplished, and have done to make you sinful and put out the light within you. ³Little child, the light is there. ⁴You do but dream, and idols are the toys you dream you play with. ⁵Who has need of toys but children? ⁶They pretend they rule the world, and give their toys the power to move about, and talk and think and feel and speak for them. ⁷Yet everything their toys appear to do is in the minds of those who play with them. ⁸But they are eager to forget that they made up the dream in which their toys are real, nor recognize their wishes are their own. Nightmares are childish dreams. ²The toys have turned against the child who thought he made them real. ³Yet can a dream attack? ⁴Or can a toy grow large and dangerous and fierce and wild? ⁵This does the child believe, because he fears his thoughts and gives them to the toys instead. ⁶And their reality becomes his own, because they seem to save him from his thoughts. ⁷Yet do they keep his thoughts alive and real, but seen outside himself, where they can turn against him for his treachery to them. ⁸He thinks he needs them that he may escape his thoughts, because he thinks the thoughts are real. ⁹And so he makes of anything a toy, to make his world remain outside himself, and play that he is but a part of it. There is a time when childhood should be passed and gone forever. ²Seek not to retain the toys of children. ³Put them all away, for you have need of them no more. _________________________________________________________________ Forgiving dreams have little need to last. ²They are not made to separate the mind from what it thinks. ³They do not seek to prove the dream is being dreamed by someone else. ⁴And in these dreams a melody is heard that everyone remembers, though he has not heard it since before all time began. ⁵Forgiveness, once complete, brings timelessness so close the song of Heaven can be heard, not with the ears, but with the holiness that never left the altar that abides forever deep within the Son of God. ⁶And when he hears this song again, he knows he never heard it not. ⁷And where is time, when dreams of judgment have been put away? _________________________________________________________________ The happy dreams the Holy Spirit brings are different from the dreaming of the world, where one can merely dream he is awake. ²The dreams forgiveness lets the mind perceive do not induce another form of sleep, so that the dreamer dreams another dream. ³His happy dreams are heralds of the dawn of truth upon the mind. ⁴They lead from sleep to gentle waking, so that dreams are gone. ⁵And thus they cure for all eternity.

@Nilsi What an elaborate way of saying: "I want to chase my own tail forever while being attached and in bondage" lol. This is what Leo was saying that most western philosophers are bullshiters. They don't know what transcendence is -- what Truth is. So they end up pedestalizing desire and bondage to appearance. Just by the fact that Yogis, monks, and lamas exist should ring some bells in your head that exist a possibility that desire is not the be all end all path and that Nirvana is true. Your view here could be true from a very advanced and realized perspective. Like the concept of Mahayana Buddhism, where one is awakened and becomes a Bodhisattva but doesn't just stay in bliss(being), he acts in the world so that other beings may as well reach liberation, all this knowing that reality is an allucination and he is talking to himself and helping himself. But the Bodhisattva attitude is a very different one from desire. The acts of a Bodhisattva its just a bonus, he is not attached to his acts -- he is not desiring. He does what he does as service to others, he does because he is selfless. And if he ends up dying and being tortured in the midst of his journey, he is equally in bliss and happy. There's no difference in anything to him. Your whole essay could be true if you reach the tenth stage in the ten ox herding pictures, where you return to society in a Leela state -- forever orgarsming, whether you are doing something, alive or dead, or just being is irrelevant. But then this wouldn't be desire, this is transcendence of everything while still existing as something. This is VERY VERY FAR for what 99% of humans are experiencing. So I would say your view here is very dangerous to most people.

The sheer amount of people that say Jesus saved them should be put into consideration on wether or not the spirit actually exists. I have seen many people say things about Jesus saving them from new age or witchcraft. But none of them explain what happens or say anything intelligent about their experiences. And all the experiences involve other people and money. They are all people who went way super far into new age and were reiki healing and doing psychic stuff and then somehow Jesus comes, but how do you know its Jesus? Like the woman said she was meditating with a buddha statue and then she felt something in front her that was giving her infinite unconditional love, somehow shes not losing it and she automatically assumes its Jesus for no reason. If its your first time encountering Jesus how do you know the qualia is that of Jesus? Maybe its a demon, maybe its Buddha, maybe its some other diety. And if you were to receive infinite unconditional love from a being you wouldn't be able to just sit there, you would be rolling around screaming. When I awaken it felt like the same thing with no person there but it felt like a being was telling me something to unlock karma. I wouldnt automatically say it was Jesus and it gave no idea to me that it was Jesus. The woman gave no evidence in her interview about meeting Jesus, that the being gave any indication that it was Jesus. She just said it was Jesus. I could make a video about my awakening and say Jesus saved me in the exact same way,even when I was given no indication it was Jesus, I could just say it was Jesus for no reason, but that would make me a liar. Leo or anyone else that awaken could say it was Jesus who awakened them for no reason. Maybe all Christians are being awakened by Buddha and they are just calling it Jesus. even tho it never actually says it is? Maybe all their reiki healing is paying off and something happens, and they fuck it up by randomly making up that it was Jesus and not their own energy. They dont ask these questions to themselves and it makes me not totally believe them. These are basic questions. Like you take time to learn working with body energy to make special things happen, and then something special happens ,and you just ignore everything you just did and stop? If you never do new age stuff and then get into it, and that makes you experience Jesus, why would you stop doing it and assume it was evil? Whats Jesus saving you from looking behind your eyeballs? How do they know the new age stuff didnt make Jesus come to them? Here's their logical thought process I never saw Jesus I didnt believe, I was doing drugs, I saw Jesus on drugs, he is real I believe, The drugs are evil. Where did Jesus come from, the evil?

The Great Answer We were born as kings in Love, gods praised with affection and tenderness. But soon came the first rejection from our father, the first disappointment from our mother, the first mockery at school. We kept growing, and with each passing year, the insults multiplied—humiliations, betrayals, abandonment, and rejection. Maybe we were lucky: smart, attractive, popular... But even so, we couldn’t stop people from laughing behind our backs. We couldn’t stop our father from being an alcoholic. With time, life turned gray. We searched for help. We went to a psychologist and, at first, we liked him. But then we realized he, too, was confused. So we tried another, and then another. We filled an album with psychiatrists, psychologists, coaches, shamans, therapists, priests, counselors, psychics, and gurus. But nothing fulfilled us. Some of us call this darkness depression. Others anxiety. Others addiction. But no one really seems to know what this darkness is, how it works, or where it comes from. And then, by some strange chance, you arrive at a modest clinic in San Miguel de Allende. There, for the first time, you hear The Great Answer. An answer that—without exaggeration—is worth more than the two hundred thousand pesos your parents paid each month at university. “Why?” you ask. “Why, after dolphins, shamans, light therapy, mystical music, and ancestral medicine, has nothing worked?” And then a bold man—some call him a saint, others a madman—shouts the most powerful truth you’ll ever hear: "BECAUSE OF RESENTMENT!" You're resentful. No one ever taught you how this game of life really works. When you were born, you expected flowers and gifts, praise and celebration. And the first time they made fun of your braces or glasses at school, instead of thanking them and smiling, you insulted them back. Or you spoke badly of them. When someone hit you in fifth grade, you screamed for help, called the police, and when they arrested the boy, instead of hoping he’d become a better person, you laughed inside and wished he’d be abused in jail. Do you see the pattern? Every time someone hurt you, you hurt back. And so, anxiety, depression, and darkness kept growing—until you reached high school… and fell into addiction. But in that clinic, by pure chance, you heard that madman say: "God, when I get angry, help me be kind. Because my salvation depends on it." And your eyes were opened. You left the clinic and lived clean until the day you died. Because you truly understood. And from that day on, you awakened. Now you return with peace to a world still lost in darkness. You are a witness to the Answer. To communicate it is not easy—you must become its living example. But if you do, you may receive what that madman promised: Salvation. Or put another way: A happy and useful life.