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@Leo Gura of course, I don’t actually know anything, these are all just assumptions and ideas and concepts, LOC as a whole is a concept, I’m more than aware of that, they could be wrong, and very wrong. Although you do agree there’s of course depths to awakening, and some teachers are more deeply awakened than others. im sorry to hear your experience with Ramaji wasn’t as good as you hoped, nobody is perfect, what LOC did he put you at btw out of interest, and did you receive RASA? Like you said nobody knows anything.

You do not know the degree of awakening of any human beings. Just keep that in mind. That is what is true for you. Anything else are beliefs you have picked up from hearsay or your own speculations. You have no idea how awakened Ekhart Tolle is, or Ramaji is, or anyone. And even the notion that you could know is highly suspect. Assigning numbers to teachers is a dangerous game. It's extremely important that you admit to yourself that you don't really know these things. Otherwise you fall into a delusion of thinking you know something which you actually do not know. If Ramaji's mind is corrupt, then his scale could be corrupt and you have no way of knowing that. You cannot just assume that his scale is accurate. To assume such a thing would violate the whole thrust of our work here. FYI, Ramaji's numerical rating of me was immediately incorrect. He rated me too highly and wasn't aware he did so. You cannot trust anyone in this work. No one! Not Ramaji, not Buddha, not Christ, not me.

My Kundalini is not awakened. But I have experienced Dark Night of the Soul. I did not feel I exist. Life was meaningless and empty. I had severe headaches. Fear, depression, anxiety was severe. Glad you are better now. In Daniel Ingram's map Dark Night of the Soul is followed by Equanimity phase. Can you conform you are in Equanimity now? https://mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-iv-insight/30-the-progress-of-insight/11-equanimity/

Great response @Byun Sean Just to add to the above snippet, I think it is important to realize the above in other people too. Just like how you did stupid shit before you awakened, other people are doing stupid shit before they awaken too! To judge them is to judge your former self. This only brings pain. That's why it is so important to accept and forgive your former self, as it instills the capacity to accept and forgive others. When you learn to fully accept and forgive, you increase your capacity to love. Instead of judgement or ridicule, you feel compassion and love for those that are hurting and henceforth acting out doing stupid shit. Such capacity brings forth real inner growth and encourages benevolence unto the world.

thank you you are now awakened

Is everyone else awakened at the time that I get awakened/enlightened? Every friend I tell about LSD wants to try it... lol even those I thought would never want to try it... Also thanks for the warm welcome.

depend, if you do it mindfully. I read many tantra exercice about self pleasure. someone awakened could still put his life to the service of giving sex or be a master at sex. but surely this is a drug. but guess what, everything we put our hands on, is a potential chemical release ( energy depletion ). so surely if you cease an activity that depletes you ( like if you fap 5 times a day ) of course you'll feel like shit when you do, and feel good when you don't. if you see yourself as a phone, with battery everyday. it depend aswell how many time you abused porn:fapping. you can seriously live a healthy life while fapping on porn; But it depend the porn, depend the practice you do, depend how you do it, why you do it, and HOW many times you do it, and how your body react to overdoing it/ not doing it. I would try period without fapping for days ( just to effectively, cease the ritual pattern and become aware of it, if there is ) I think the shame from fapping, coming from religious belief

Could evil be considered coming from the conditioning of acquired Conscience from the Collective ego as opposed to inner truth from Awakened Conscience?

Why so triggered. Non realised awakening : this guy is believing in duality & belief Awakened : sure that's me boi Non believing = belief No mind = belief sensation created by the mind. Living the non dual life = delusion There is only mind. You can't transcend god. Cause god is what you are

@Preety_India I honestly couldn’t agree more, my teachers say life begins when you are fully awakened and reach 1000. to me living life wouldn’t be using prana as my main energy as I’ll want to be out in the world building businesses, playing sports and most importantly having lots of fun. after all the reason we’re here is to be happy, I don’t see the need for all this denial to achieve certain states, maybe it works for Yogis who meditate all day in their caves but that isn’t my personal path! I just honestly don’t see it as viable for those of us who are active in the world personally.

Please quote exactly Alan Watts or list the video title so we can hear is exact words This calls to mind two recent threads _______________________________________ TOPIC Please help me understand Alan Watts later years and death ... My understanding is that Alan Watts became an alcoholic (along with his wife), and became quite depressed on his later years, dying of heart ... ___________________________________ I can no longer find this recent thread. Either it was deleted or is hidden if I am not mistaken, Anyway my comment there was the effect was that Alan Watts was a great speaker and eloquent writer but he did not practice the spiritual disciplines he spoke of enough to escape dying at 58, stressed out and attached to alcohol and cigarettes. So we have to look at what he said as coming from a man who only practiced some of what he preached. He called himself a "philosophical entertainer", I would add also a social critic. He is one of the great orators of the 20th century in my opinion, carved out his own niche and was gifted with a beautiful voice. He did not dedicate to being a monk for at least several years to have the first hand experience to attribute being enlightened as per Zen and other traditions he spoke of and then to call it something only certain people are born with or ordained by some force to have However other thread is this other thread accounts for people who came, in part from outside of traditional methods ____________________________________________ This is my thread and it also includes similar accounts on video of claimed enlightenment experiences of Eckhart Tolle Adyashanti Mooji: Rupert Spira Sadhguru Some of these are men who claim to have awakened of become enlightened spontaneously not even having studied spirituality or practiced it beforehand So how can we know if they were actually enlightened or not? We cannot know, nor can we know if enlightenment is more than a feeling, behavior and proclamation. What if a person has a sudden overwhelming feeling of oneness? Are they enlightened? Some of these famous speakers are perceived by huge numbers of people to have been enlightened yet some did not put in a monk-like dedication to practice. Yet some monks have been dedicated to the practice and spiritual disciplines since having been children and many of them might not be interesting to listen to or be considered to be enlightened. It is wiser to not seek an answer to this question. Continue to vibrate on your higher frequency. Know one knows what may come to you mystical experiences do not only come to the enlightened but some of them are only interesting moments not things to cling to What counts is persistence and compassion for the self and others That is greater than mystical experiences

Source ♥️ How the Hell I've attracted been attracted by the Awakened people. Blows my mind. Maybe God's plan. OK this convinced me. Drop mask, stop playing role of refugee. Thanks Goodness I "somehow" know What God plan that is unfolding right now IS. Thanks @Leo Gura for actualizing it. Thanks @Nahm. Thanks and Love you All. Maybe it is really time be a Father. Thanks for saying God because it feels like God=Love=Truth. Literally feels like God. Also @Nahm can you feel when kid returns home fully? Don't Wish to brag but can literally feel every full Awakening in my Heart. So awesome makes me cry.

On this forum we haven't decided how to marry the insights we've had into the nature of reality with "real" life. So even if we awakened and we understand the extraordinary power of emotion, we still go along our everyday life and interactions to people with our old patterning. The patterning of one who is naturally open to emotion is going to look very different and unevolved to the patterning of one who is used to always defaulting to logic. We each have different challenges, we could help each other see through those challenges if we could see the mutual connection we have and realize that we are here for each other, in an opposite mirroring kind of effect. The more we focus on what we don't want, the more we get. We don't want bugs, so we mist the entire environment with DDT and we end up with worse problems than bugs. Discover then focus on what it is that you DO want. You want a deeper connection to exist on this forum beyond a connection of logic, of who is right or wrong or who understands reality better. You want something that goes deeper than that, something that transcends duality, something that includes and embraces emotion instead of shirking from it or slapping it away as unevolved nonsense. Who or where else on the internet could great potential for connection exist but within a community of people who is so awake? I have a butterfly chrysalis on my porch right now, but it has been a really long time and it hasn't hatched. Should I pull out the bug spray?

@dimitri The Wholistic Insight: All thought, is “one relativity”, “one duality”, one “category” we can call, “Thinking”, or “The Veil Of Thought”, or, “The Veil Of Duality”. The thought that is this, “The Wholistic Insight”, is, “the last thought”...the one that reveals the nature of all thought... “The Last Stop”. “...and I hope that we can break it down, so it’s not so black & white...cause one day, you’ll find yourself nailing Good to a tree, and then saying..forgive me! Forgive Me!” Break the dualities of thought (meanings contingent on opposites) down, collapse them, rather than thinking one end of the stick is correct / actual, and the other not. Breaking down dualities is most effective, because you’re going to realize there are some things that are taken to be dualities (believed to be dualistic), but when scrutinized, are not. You’ll come to the place, over and over, where you must choose between your direct experience, and a thought about something. Follow the white rabbit of direct experience, as the “answer” is unfathomably hidden in plain sight. Change the perspective / connotation, of “right” & “wrong”. Adopt the mentality, for such an exercise, of genuinely desiring to be, “wrong”. Make “finding what I am wrong about”, uncovering these, the goal. I say this because, “the one who is right” - is not the one who is aware of “the one who is right”, in this way, being right creates a most-close-to-home duality, which enables the perpetuation of belief in all other indirect (just a thought) dualities. Be extra careful not to allow the use of any word to be a “write off”. It is often said, “”it’s magic”, “it’s imagination”, “it’s being”, “it’s me”, etc. Try to take note, that there is a full circle involved. The use of these words at the beginning of the circle is a write off, noted by an inability to readily explain the arrival at such a word usage. Don’t confuse that with an inability to explain what the word points to, and also consider one can go full circle, and yet still end up stuck again at the beginning. So there is a reference, but an inability to explain the arrival. What such a word points to can not be explained. But the arrival to the full circle can always be explained by one who is aware they themself are the “full circle”. That distinction alone can save you decades, when paired with always taking the pointing straight to your direct experience. Notice simple egoic write off’s like “buddy”, “my friend”. Notice when “awakening” or enlightenment” are used as write off’s, like “you’re get it when you awaken”. Notice this is a deflection, in which someone is literally using you, as their own write off. Get past the duality of thought, and you can feel these write offs I’m pointing to, yourself. See through all “your” sneakiness, and you see through All sneakiness. You must collapse the dualities, rather than “just see it when you awaken”, because while that is accurate, because duality hasn’t been collapsed, because that work hasn’t been done, deconditioned, “seen” - it’ll just come right back, and in the meantime, this is the very perpetuation of the delusion. Then you’re right back in the beginning of the circle, yet worse off, cause now there is a thicker stronger defense, of “the one who is awakened”. That then makes one’s own dualities nearly impossible to see, past the deflection & projection. One often then creates “material”, and attaches to it ever-so-sneakily, referring you to “the material”, which of course is an attempt to be “right”, which is how this whole carousel spins in the first place. We want to get off it, not spin it faster. “One Experience Or Many” The one asking is (A), “one experience” is (B), “many” is (C). If it’s one...it can’t be many? Does that make you the one, the many, or a third party? Does that make the one you are asking a fourth party? If it’s many...it can’t be one? What’s your direct experience? Are there deeper dualities at play, in... you (A), and “your”direct experience (B)...and also (via your projection) the one you are asking (C)...? ”Is reality...” Given you are the one asking (A), this is already a duality, an assumption that what is being asked about, “reality”, is (B), and also, the one you are asking, is (C). ”...a multiplayer game or single?” Do the lettering exercise to this. (understanding is not a definition on a page, it’s you, or as a concession, “within you”) If it’s multiplayer...it can’t be single? If it’s single player...It can’t be multi? What’s your direct experience? ”I sit in my room” You are A. If you sit in room ‘B’, is that your room? A possesses B? If you sit in room ‘C’, where is ‘my room’, room ‘B’, in direct experience? Does room B still exist? Does it exist as a thought? Did “room B” ever exist as other than the thought - “room B” (“my room”)? If “I sit in my room”, the triality is...you are A, “ I “ is B, “my room” is C. Scrutinize until you find exactly, precisely, the actual literal separation between A & B. ”I can see only what is inside of it and the nature from the window.” You are A. “ I “ is (B), can see only “what is inside of it” (C), and “the nature from the window” (D). What is the literal separation between A, B, and C? (This “stuff”, this “answer” will not be found in a room, or these words, but in your thinking. To awaken, for the duration, you’ve got to notice this stuff. So don’t write it off with “didn’t get it right now”. Look at it, read it, contemplate it, for five minutes each day. One day, BOOM, it clicks, and you’re in a sort of state of disbelief, that you somehow never saw it before. There is a “flip”, and you’ll be saying “holy crap it’s so obvious! How’d I miss it!. This is waking up from the matrix of thinking & self seeming to be the self of thought) ”Is it the only experience of Now?” The one asking (A)...Is “it” (B) the only ”experience of Now” (C), the one spoken to, asked, is (D). What is the literal separation between A, B, C, & D - other than the way you think about it? ”Suppose my grandma is 300kn away” The one asking (A)...Suppose “my grandma” (B) is “300kn away” (C) and the implied one (the one who you’re suggesting do the supposing) is (D). You A, and she’s B or C? You A and she’s B/C? You’re A but not D? Where’s that line, that actual separation? Notice how it starts to fall apart upon scrutiny. Notice any feelings that feel “bad”, and cut this shit of duality collapsing, and let that feeling “up”, let it give the message. The feeling is the real, the “goal”, if you will. The collapsing of dualities serves the ultimate answer in feeling. So careful not to ignore or disregard feelings as they arise in the collapsing. Feeling arising is the point. Think of the collapsing as a practice, like self inquiry, the point is the feeling, shattering the dualities - the thinking. Liberation is not a thought. “The other side of that wall”, is a thought. Train the analytical mind A, while simultaneously using It B to detach from the dualities & beliefs (veils)...from...”It” A. (The actuality is not A and B, the actuality, is you, there’s no A & B. That, A & B, is only the implication of the thoughts) The “point” is to be done with the duality of thinking, so you begin to notice the underlying feeling. “Enlightenment is only the beginning”. Studying physics & qm’s is helpful because after awhile it dawns on you that the explanations break down to fields and fields & you is a duality. Abraham Hicks is helpful, because the collapsed perspective is the only one she is expressing from. Thought dualities suppress feeling, the root of feeling is sensation, the actuality of sensation is Love / Infinite Being. A Dream Board is for getting your wanting out onto the board. Your wanting is of feeling, not thinking. So wanting, draws out feeling. Nobody ever says “I wish I could overthink more”, what is actually wanted, is to love more. This “wants onto the board”, this “out of your head, and into the room”, exacerbates thought dualities, which try to maintain the suppression of feeling. There is a breakthrough, of the most intimate personal nature, in which you, feeling, breakthrough the facade, the matrix of, thinking. And just like that, you are Real. You are Existence. (Minus the “are”, as that’s linguistically necessary in this attempt to wake you up). The Last Stop Music can reach into you, into the Self, and grab ahold and wake up the soul, bypassing the separate self of thinking. Feel into the actuality of this as you listen. Notice the intensity of the madness of seriousness right out of the gate, the beginning of the coming whirlwind, the ominous, unrelenting baseline. Notice the madness reaching an almost total absolute - and then the sweet relief of the “breaking” of it, at 6:44. Then notice the intensity carry’s through, but now opened, liberated, with peace now. Then notice, precisely at 7:36, the grand coalesce, the unification. Then at 8:10, just look at his face, read it. Feel that”. Then relish in the resolve you feel in you...you indeed do “get it”. (“Gotten” in feeling, not thinking) War is not necessary for peace, neither in the world nor in our minds. “Fools are we, if hate’s the gate to peace”. We are the creators of evil. We “reign in tears, so righteous, so righteous...go ahead, believe that we are the chosen ones, so righteous, so righteous.” ”Shut up the big lie...the black & white lie”. Good, and Evil. Self, & Other. Duality, in the mind of underestimating, ever-powerful, creators. This is what is transcended., and that real-I-zation, is, The Last Stop. “I hope that we can break it down, so it’s not so black & white” A “fire” which “grew from the east”, but of course, east is simply, ”not west” - meaningless duality. And so we war, to peace, as fools. Righteous, fools. Free yourself of this. Then another. Let go of the separate self, duality, judgement, meditation is the way. And lift your brother, love is the way. Some inspiration, maybe....like, “why do this? Why do “the work”?” Because we are actually - undoing the “work”. Because - Actual Magic. The Real “Fantasy” Is actual reality. When we are kids, we believed in Santa. We’d make a list, we’d send it to him, and like magic - what we wanted would actually show up. But then, we believed we “grew up”, and we put away such silly beliefs. But of course, that was actually proper training, if you will. Make a dream board (the list for Santa - the universe - You). Believe, (in yourself) - and that, will actually show up. Every parent “knows” they’re “Santa”. Not every parent actually realizes they are literally the Santa that is reality, as well, the child who can want, dream, believe, and receive. All possible, because, Love. Because, Infinite Being. You. You’re the real Santa.

I am aware that spirituality and suffering have a strong connection (because ego is connected to suffering) and that there is nothing wrong with that, that it can be a strong element in personal and spiritual growth. But I'm wondering if that's the only way, if purification does in essence equate to suffering. Leo said in one of his vids that when you sit to meditate and feel the resistance and suffering of the ego wanting to not concentrate and be conscious, that that's literally the devil leaving your body. What if that's not necessarily true? As in you can love your ego to death or maybe let go so deeply that you're just blissful while dissolving the ego and not having to go through much suffering? Thanks for all the wonderful and thoughtful replies, I do agree that I need to contemplate this for myself more to really get a clear picture, but I just wanna hear from your experiences as many here have already had awakened through different paths

If you have working on putting a career, or you are going to have a kid...etc. I seriously don't see the point in trying to awaken. I do see the point in just becoming more conscious, since a lot of your neurotic and selfish behaviour gets away as you get more conscious. But what about being really awake ? Because you can be really awake. It's not a very difficult thing. The difficulty thing is maintaining that state since your ego has a total plan ahead of life to keep working on. For example I am a 24 years old guy, I am working on getting a dev job in the industry (in the future being an entrepreneur also excites me), and also trying to actualize to finally fix my social habilitaties, etc (I just want to have some sex before enlightenment to be honest lol) But this weekend I got really awake. Not a full enlighment because if it would have been that I wouldn't be writing this. I'll be enjoying non duality, but a serious fucking shocking beautiful mindfuck, since yesterday I've been soooo shocked about how all my life has been a story. I got so much work in front of me in the conceptual world, but my heart , for what it has seen, what it wants it just to let go of everything and stay in silence just admiring how blind I've been. And of course live now from that position, from a position far from being driving in the front seat, but rather in the back seat (I hope this metaphor gets understood) But I won't, this state of so much awareness I am probably will be faded because I am going to let my internal monolog gets increased and attach to it since I gotta do a bunch of material stuff so my ego can develop itself. So I am not sad, what it happened this weekend will probably accelerate the cure of my neurosis and anxieties, but to be honest, when you have touched the sweetest thing, it feels like a treason to go back to material world. To summarize, I don't see enlightenment or a high level state of consciousness regular to be difficult to achieve, but because people really are attached (and want to) to its goals and material lives, you are just going to go back to ego. At least this is my experience and now I understand more why so little people are awakened 24/7. You have to say good bye to any ego desires you wanted and that seems...wow, radical. (Even though you have saw ego is a concept) I guess you have to see it more a more times to actually one day finally let go without any doubt

hehehe... I know. The dream is not so bad, the ego doesn't like it... but I am not affected by anything that happens in it. I feel like in the middle of the two world, not completely awakened and not completely asleep. Let's see what happens next.

I found the best way to do that is by starting in the bedroom, where even tomboyish girls want to feel girly. In the bedroom you can literally guide her to tap into pure femininity. And then maybe from there it will spill over a bit into normal life. But still, don't expect to change her too much. To be able to guide her properly you first need a deep personal understanding of what femininity is. Which means you need to first guide yourself to connect with your feminine side. Psychedelics are very helpful here. Try to have an orgasm as a woman using your mind. Then you might understand what femininity is. Don't forget, if everything is one, femininity is a fundamental part of your being. All femininity was created by your mind. If you are a man, it is part of your shadow, an aspect of reality you have disowned so you could get it from "other". You have not fully awakened until you have reintegrated it.

Great perspectives! What is the frame of reference? I ask rhetorically. In Fourth Way literature, it is said a fully Conscious or awakened person is actually incapable of violence. When the emotional center is purified.

When you are Enlightened, whatever you do is masterful. Live as if you were to die tomorrow, learn as if you were to live forever. Bruce Lee didn't master the art of movement and martial arts because he did a lot of physical practice, he's mind was awakened and martial arts was his "craft" his "focus" and an awakened mind masters things flawlessly. Choose your craft, choose your mastery

Hello there fellow seekers of the Absolute. Sorry for the click-bait guys, but there is no shortcut to absolute truth . Instead of giving you false perceptions I will be giving a summary of my journey to absolute truth, not for approval, but to help making you more aware of the false reality you are living in due to lower consciousness. Along the way I will hopefully be triggering your subconscious soul-memory. So DO NOT dismiss or judge this story, for the Source/God has given each and everyone of us life to seek the absolute truth and when found to live and expand this greater understanding onto the seekers. Of course this knowledge cannot be understood by the believer through words or concepts, (it can only be communicated and understood by the knowers, because only they will find the deeper understanding/meaning behind the words or concepts) let alone through a thread on a forum. That's why you have to seek yourself and if you truly, from the depths of your existence, SEEK for absolute truth and intensely want it, that's when you will arrive at your (next) truth (keep in mind truth can change, not the absolute, but rather your truth). That is how the Light will eventually sprout inside of you by experience and sensation, it is not something you can link together like connecting the dots. (Seek and you shall find). So If you wish to trigger this absolute truth unto yourself I advise you not to fast forward scroll through this thread, but rather to read everything with intend. I also tend to share some more personal things to help give you an understanding about the individual (me). My personal self Up until the 19th year of my life, It wasn't really great, I had a hard chilhood and had to leave the house with no contact when I was 16. I started facing the world alone without having any Idea where I was headed or where I would stay, standing with my back against the wall trying to survive day to day. Also I did what I wanted to do because I was living my own life, when I reached rock bottom at 19 I started smoking weed (Funny since I always told myself that I wouldn't ). That is when I truly started to know my worldy self, also my personal horizon on everything expanded greatly. This was an uplift to my emotions and my life overall. I came from a spiritual family with a spiritual mother and aunt that had a bond that even twins can't connect like. Also, they were so far ahead of me spiritually, my worldy self couldn't even comprehend the deeper understanding behind their doings/sayings, and just thought of them as my slightly strange but o so loving and giving family (Oh how I was the strange one in the end). My aunt was like a mother to me, that taught me things my actual mother didn't or couldn't, but she passed away a couple of years ago due to lung cancer, this was a fallback for me with lots of emotions up until my Awakening. The start of the journey This journey began in approximately 2017 when my muslim friend Adam who I met in elementary school came to me with tears in his eyes (we're both 25 now and stayed friends) and said that he had a vivid dream about us and everyone standing at judgement day. He saw me getting taken into Hell while he was going to Heaven (probably because he still lived at home with dinner being served every day and living according to his religion). He also cried in the dream because there was nothing he could do to help me. Keep in mind my friend grew up in a muslim household and everything other than that what he believes in is complete false, simply because Islam is 'the truth'. I don't even judge him now because we've all hold false perceptions of reality at first, I didn't even believe in the Source/God and was a total Atheist, who used logic and science for truth. He practically begged me to learn about Islam because he believed it was a sign from 'Allah'. However, back then I didn't know much about the details of this religion, but he showed me some things in this book and compared it to science, which seemed pretty convincing and made me think, but I still didn't believe there was a God. So there is a God ? This was until I started scientifically looking for mistakes in the evolution theory and I found out how complicated our DNA actually is. This can't just come from nothing. But the biggest switch was when I learned about the formula that came into existence when the Big Bang happened called 1.618, better known as the Golden Ratio or the Spiral of life. I thought if I take apart my phone and throw it into the cosmos we could wait a million years, but it would never be a complete phone in the end. Or I could smash my keyboard for a bazillion years and in the end I wouldn't all of a sudden get a quantum code designed to create new universes or something, so basically you could say that I found out life doesn't just happen to be. This was a definite eye opener that there was indeed an intelligent designer behind our existence. So I began to inquire into Islam, because if this was the truth I wanted it! But if it wasn't then I wanted to save my friend from this false perception! At first they show you all these 'miracles' of the Q'uran that are so convincing, because you are still thinking in concepts and words to comprehend this so called 'truth'. Soon I found out how this cult actually worked and how these so called 'scholars' of Islam are changing words in the translations of the Q'uran/Hadiths in the benefit of Islam. Then I found out (as they (muslims) all say) you can only really understand this book if you read it in the original Arabic language, but my friend didn't even know how to read Arabic. I looked for someone who could help me with translations and it turned out to be even worse than I thought (not going into further details because this truth doesn't even matter). This couldn't be the word of God, this couldn't be Absolute truth, I refused to accept this tyranny, never the less Adam asked me to come to the musk one time just for the experience, so I went. There I found their Imam totally working on the emotions of these people, on the fears and desires (otherworldy desires), He told us to fear Allah! He said to be scared of Allah, how Allah would punish you if you didn't live according to the Q'uran or the Prophet, this went on for about 20 minutes. Before I decided to come with Adam to the musk I found a giant scientific mistake in their scripture. I decided to confront him with it after the gathering ended, to see what his reaction would be. After I showed the imam the error in their scriptures, they were all looking flabbergasted as if they had never heard about this before. After 45 minutes of the Imam browsing through their scriptures, he came to the conclusion that this wasn't a mistake,. It was just me who was an idiot basically and didn't understand their scriptures. That's when I was sure.. These were NOT the scriptures of the Divine. Of course Adam also refused to see this as a mistake, but I knew that it was a done deal for me, even though he still tried to make me see his truth. Emptiness So there I was, knowing evolution wasn't the answer and religions weren't the answer. I was aware that I knew exactly nothing of our existence, the things I was so sure of most likely weren't true as well. I deeply asked myself these questions over and over again, why are we here ? Were we just born to die ? What happens after 'death'? After a month of being pointblank and still seeking for Absolute truth, I came across a book called The Universal One by Walter Russel (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/TheUniversalOne1926WalterRussell.pdf) If you haven't awakened yet, or even if you have, I advise you to read this book even if it takes you 2 days to understand 1 page. This book is full of true knowledge about our universe and will benefit YOU, the reader, greatly. Of course you don't have to believe me! Just open the book and look for yourself. With some of this knowledge inside my head and actually starting over with everything I thought was truth I had some sort of a different view of the world. I still wanted Absolute truth, but I knew that I knew nothing. SPIRITUAL AWAKENING! My girlfriend was having a small party with some friends, in the end (about 5 hours later) only 2 friends of mine stayed. My girlfriend was sleeping and we smoked some blunts while talking about divinity and such. We put on some chill music, started filling balloons with Nitrous Oxide and began inhaling them (It's a thing here in the Netherlands). This wasn't the first time, so it wasn't a big deal or anything. A couple of rounds later my friend put on ASAP Rocky - L$D, as I inhaled my filled balloon again, I started to flow away further and further. I focused on my breathing and thought of nothing (unintentionally), I felt I went further away from my individual self yet I was still there in the Now. Then IT happened. It was as if my humanity got taken off layer by layer, The Ego, my Desires, My Fears, my Emotions. For once I was able to completely let go of the past and was fully in the present, It really felt like I was dying, as I was thinking that I was dying It was as if the universe downloaded data inside my head, because all of a sudden I felt and experienced (NOT HEAR) someone giving me a feeling that it's okay to let go and that reincarnation was a fact, so I would come back, Then finally all my attachments in the world were gone and I was aware that all that was left over was consciousness. THEN I REALIZED all I am IS consciousness. After that, I felt a LOVE which was so BIG and SO POWERFUL, I've never felt anything like this before in my life. This love could only be from the Source/God (what I knew the moment I felt it), and it kept on going, After this great sensation of love I was given this sense of UNITY with everyone and everything that's in this universe. I quickly became aware that I am you, you are me, I am the trees, the trees are me, we are ALL ONE. We are not in nature, we ARE nature, we are not in the universe, we ARE the universe. Then I was given the knowledge that RELIGION WAS NOT THE ANSWER INDEED and that NOTHING TRULY MATTERS EXCEPT CONSCIOUSNESS! I felt this deeply intense feeling of happiness and bliss, like I've never felt before. Soon after I came back, I stood up shocked/surprised and said "GUYS NOTHING MATTERS IN THE WORLD, ONLY CONSCIOUSNESS and leveling that truly matters" and they were looking at me all weird, I still see their faces haha . My perception of reality got changed to Absolute Truth for good! The day after, I wanted to find out what happened that caused this great but weird experience, that's when I found out it happened because the brain always needs and gets oxygen every second of the day. The Nitrous Oxide causes 'Cerebral hypoxia', this occurs when not enough oxygen can get to the brain, that gave me a Near Death Experience. So, my mind thought it was actually dying, that's when enough Dymethyltryptamine was released to cause my Spiritual Awakening. Even the day after this experience I was still feeling this insane love and empathy towards other people, also this feeling of unity just kept hanging by and the thought that all I am is consciousness. I felt I couldn't talk to anyone about this, because they would think I was crazy, but I knew there was one person who would listen without prejudice for sure, that was my mother. I called her and told her; "Mom there's something really weird that happened to me", she replied with "What happened !?", thinking something bad happened. That's when I started explaining my experience to her, when I was halfway she just stopped me and said "Really honey ? Congratulations, I'm so intensely proud of you!" SHE KNEW! SHE KNEW about Absolute Truth all along, she knew this would happen one day, and as she told me "Congratulations", all of a sudden a memory came back to me. When I was 12/13, she told me that when I was 3 years old she closed my 3rd eye, because I was bothered by entities (positive though), but I couldn't sleep because of it. Then I remembered she also said it would open when I would be 24 years old............. This awakening happened 2 months prior to my 25th year old birthday, believe it or not. I started crying because I was happy, for the first time in my life I cried because I was happy and because of everything that was changing around me. All of a sudden I didn't just care about myself, but I started to care about all beings in the world, even animals and even strangers, My whole world got filled with light and I started to feel this bliss and happiness throughout the whole day, even a week later still. Even up until now, moments of happiness and bliss come and go. I know now what my task is in this world, to become more aware live in constant awareness of Absolute truth and to help others planting seeds for their awakening. To the reader Please try to understand that the key to peace on earth is inner peace (self-realization). Be conscious and conscious about consciousness. Awaken your true self (your spiritual self) in order to obtain enlightenment. You may stop trying to fill the whole with earthly desires, because you are the one you've been searching for all along. Meaning, this eternal sense of bliss and happiness cannot be found when you reach outward, but rather reach inward. Don't look external, look internal. While I'm talking about knowledge, that is beyond this phenomenal world, please don't try to understand absolute truth through worldy/earthly concepts and words. Give up all these concepts and inquire into the nature of your being (the true self). Ask yourself the right questions: how did we all happen to be? And if you continue in the realm of intellect (trying to understand the divine through these concepts and words) you will become entangled and lost in more and more concepts. We must all give love in order to receive love, Hell is on earth and it's a state of mind that's why the world is so desperately in need of love. We must all enter into the kingdom of the one infinite source which is heaven and you enter that kingdom once you have become enlightened by the divine itself, I say this once more, the Absolute truth must stumble upon you, you cannot stumble upon it. I've added a diagram for the believers to give a deeper understanding of the surfaces of consciousness. I'm giving you all love and peace into your journeys, if anyone has any questions i'd be happy to answer them

A mental breakdown can only happen to a self that believes in the thoughts it experiences. If the thoughts and the mind are seen as what they are, a mental breakdown is not possible for your true self, only for the illusion that the true self experiences. So even if it happens, it's the illusion that experiences it, not you. An awakened being sees that so clearly that suffering becomes literally impossible, even if the illusion that it incarnates has a mental breakdown.

From Leo's retreat notes, he asked several questions that can be used to determine someone's "level of enlightenment" or something to that extent. I'll give you my answers/conclusions and I would like you to give me yours. ◦ What is God? Reality is God, Everything is God, Nothing is God, and I am God. Are you God? I am God, I am also myself, as well as nothing and not myself. I am Self I guess. How does God create? No clue, God is infinite, if I knew how God created I would be using that power, but that is my limited Ego mind perspective. If I had to guess I would say God creates by thinking. I create my own opinions by thinking them, I create my own disagreements by identifying with certain perspectives. Why should the way God creates be any different? God probably thinks "There shall be rocks" and makes rocks. We have God's infinite power in our dreams as ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE INSIDE OF YOUR MIND. You can commit mass murder with your thoughts without even breathing the word gun, or owning one. ◦ Why does anything exist at all? My guess, God is bored and loves (it? him? her? them? I seriously don't know) Self. ◦ Why is reality the way that it is? It just is, I have no clue. It could be any other way but it turned out just like this. And that is enough for me. (But a deeper answer would be fine by me). I also feel like there can be people who are "less awakened" that have a higher degree of understanding and insight into the truth than others who are "More awakened". I have hazy memories from my childhood where I felt more in control and like I just understood certain things from a very deep ingrained perspective. Probably leftover from when I was not in a human form, just consciousness. I couldn't tell you what they are, just that I had them and they left an impression on me. Eternity is not long, it is "over" in a nanosecond. When there is nothing, there is no passage of time.

@Scholar Nicely put. Thank you. I choose the language of love and compassion Also; poetry. I often look at ego as a child playing on the playground, among all other kids. Sure they can get grumpy and even mean, but they're just innocent kids. They're learning. It would be ridiculous to call children immature and irresponsible, wouldn't it? All they need is a patient, loving and wise caretaker, to watch over them and guide them in the right direction. That is the role of awakened, heart-centered consciousness.

I would be careful with cause and effect. There are beings that have awakened to Being and Oneness through getting hit with a Zen stick. It wasn’t the stick itself and it’s not the philosophy itself. One cannot transcend reason through reason. Just as one cannot leave France by exploring Paris.