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That's a good question. I imagine my talks will be in the vein of Actualized.org videos. With some new helpful in-person group exercises which would be focused on raising general consciousness & self awareness. This would be useful for all people across the board, basically delving you into consciousness work. I don't think we'd directly work on life purpose, but consciousness work will help with all your goals, from career to relationships to spirituality. We would probably be exploring topics like emotional mastery, fear, judgment, confidence, self-esteem, self-deception, spirituality, meditation techniques, body awareness, nonduality, shadow work, motivation, getting unstuck, etc.

You cannot invalidate Truth. That's the trick! Lol Nothing the materialist can do will undermined nonduality. In fact, the entire universe could explode tomorrow and nonduality would still hold. That's the value of nonduality. It's FOREVER! If it could be undermined by some silly materialist's scientific discovery it wouldn't be worth talking about. You cannot apply relativistic standards of falsification to the Absolute! You can discover the Absolute for yourself. But you cannot ever falsify it. Because it is true, absolutely.

More nonduality elitists flocking there feathers. Yes I get it, in your “world” cancer doesn’t exist, it’s all labels and illusions. People starving to death, it’s all labels and illusions and distortions of reality. Labels don’t mean anything. We can all blabber like infants cause it doesn’t matter. If you’re just going to regurgitate non duality theory just to explain everything as lazily and sloppily as you are, please don’t contribute. I’m not asking lazily for someone to contemplate for me. If a child on the street here’s the term PTSD, there’s nothing wrong with that child asking “hey does PTSD mean? Does it mean the same thing as depression?” It does help to have someone at least give you some sort of description of what it is that’s being spoken.

However you describe "Emotional Mastery", it is *within* everything. It is within "enlightenment". Could "Emotional Mastery" lead to this awakening? Sure, it could be one of many inputs that contributes to the awakening. It could also be a distraction to the awakening. In general, I've found that relaxing the personality allows for a mind in which the awakening process can flourish. I've found activities such as meditation, yoga and listening to nonduality teachers help to relax my personality. In contrast, attachments/identification to ideas, worries, analyzing, conceptualizing etc. stimulate my personality and is a distraction to the awakening process. The sneaky part here is that "spiritual concepts" can seem so "good", so "healthy" and it's easy to believe in them - which is a distraction. To me, "Emotional Mastery" has a control feature to it that I would consider a trap. Who is doing the "Mastering"? Well, probably a fragment of the self. I suppose it could lead to progress for self improvement or early stages of awakening. Yet, at intermediate and advanced stages, I would consider it more of a hindrance. One reaches a stage in which it becomes about self dissolution, not self mastery.

@kieranperez I feel exactly the same way. I still have some remnants of Orange in me. I still struggle to be open minded about unscientific things, and find it hard to get out of a competitive mentality. Overall though, Ive been having some decent progress. For me, the main thing Ive been wanting to tackle is my vehemency with materialism, I need to let go of it, and I will, slowly but surely. When it comes to making friends, I think that as long as youre open minded and youre able to communicate to them that you are open to the ideas that come along with spirituality, nonduality, and so on, they will be willing to hang out with you, share, and raise your vibration along with them. I, for instance, probably 80% Green 20% Orange, have two close people that are at least 100% Green, if not 50% Yellow and 50% Green.

Sounds like my situation. As for me, quite many shifts have happened in a short amount of time. When I thought I was learning from nonduality, I was not. And now I've gathered so much information from just two goddamn books. It feels so obvious how things should be in my experience and still I'm somewhere in the intermediate space. I don't care much about that ego's life and that makes me challenge almost every aspect there is to care about. Life seems to have been nonsensical service for some illusory self and its fleeting needs, but now it seems nonsensical whatsoever. There is not so much to do in life and similar kind of things continue day after day. I feel like I'm not so inspired of that but somehow consciousness is what it is, and everything satisfies it because it IS everything. But I can't see myself as consciousness get to that. It just seems so vain, in a neutral kind of way. Maybe I've stumbled on my intellect this time.

This is a really good example of how models suck at representing reality. Seems to be a double edged sword, based on the context, the individual and however its ripple effects dance around in the universe. Let's not paint schizophrenia as if it is a good disorder for everyone - I am sure it can be embraced by certain individuals - but the overall effect on people seems to be of pain on people. Statistically higher suicide rates, high rates of smoking, etc. That said, I believe there are just shades of schizophrenia like there are shades of everything else - everything is blurry anyway. Three of my siblings have had schizophrenia and I've always intuited that there was a dream-like quality to the world. Perhaps a mild form of schizophrenia(ish) jumpstarted my inquiry into nonduality. I believe there is a connection. Some excellent systems thinking and deep insights about conciousness could potentially be used to tackle this issue (aka we need turquoise people, according to your model).

I was so concentrating on the benefits of no self/nonduality, that I hadn't really considered what the major downsides could be. Is it possible for my family to think I've snapped and gone fully mental, and having me committed for help. When really I'm just now nonduel and no longer fit into the box if what is considered normality. My family has dealt with schizophrenia, when I beloved childhood friend ended up shooting himself when the schizophrenia got too severe for him. So it's not outside the realm of possibility. I could be viewed as 'lost it' and get committed. And once in the system, it's hard to get out, unless you can get back to acting like you're within the box of what's considered normality. Why am I trying to do this again? Hahaha.

For me, when experience stops being projected on top of “each moment” that is what this “nonduality” points too.

There is value in talking about it so as to point out all the traps, explain the techniques, clear up egoic confusion, and inspire/motivate people into action. But philosophizing, speculating, or debating about nonduality is counter-productive.

I feel ya. To me it’s worth talking about duality, self, thought as process/movement, as thought/self and thoughts-feelings/emotions and how they are related to form certain experiences. But to talk about enlightenment/nonduality does serve the self/ego and is to work within the narrrow structure/pattern of thought/self/duality.

It seems that my non-dual experience was more like a glimpse into the beginning of nonduality then, and that's why it's hard to understand, since I've never directly experienced the way you're describing. The distinction between Self, other and environment was much more difficult to see, but I still retained individuality. Speaking to other felt as speaking to other even if physically the boundaries were not as apparent. Note: Maybe the experience I had was really meant to highlight the illusion of associating with ego and body, and instead to associate with awareness itself. This is what stuck out most to me, and the fading of borders was more of a preview.

I am Muslim like You and version of Islam of our parents are not what Islam of our prophet Muhammad but the Islam of lustful, greedy, power hungry, super-egoic Monarchs the way Catholics and Protestants were in History. Read Karen Armstrong a former catholic nun but very tolerant and loving person re-telling of the story of true struggles of our prophet who was for decades trying to spread hippie message of oneness, love and nonduality to the aggressive Arabian tribes but circumstances forced him to fight back, This will teach you essence of Islam and relief this deep ingrained part of your ego that is stained with religion that blocks your advance in life. Also, Loneliness is not real, its just your ego exaggerates the transformation period and is currently fighting you and does not wanting to let go. I certainly have suffered through this but understood that it was a lie. I now enjoy being alone because I get shit done and I feel constant state of flow. I still can hang out with people, but depends on people type. Most people I know like family members are like scheming courtiers who are masters are energy draining and subtle statements and questions and that are like knifes cutting right through my psyche reviving the underdeveloped beast and extreme phobias and self-doubts and self-consciousness nature in me that I am trying to get rid of. I honestly don't know you, but I believe if you could find the right people to hang out with, you have achieved what most people couldn't. If you want to hang out with people then develop the skill of acute observation without judgement or moralization and reading the true hidden meaning of what others say and what their body language conveys. You better accept being alone and practice loving yourself with all your heart and extend that love to others, this will heal your ego and ease letting go of need to be in control and surrounded with unconscious people who will generally do much damage to you in much subtler ways.

Many gods and all is god within nonduality dont conflict. They only appear to too you.

There is a much more fundamental problem here: how does anything work? Like seriously. Like what is your explanation for why you don't fall through the floor of your room? Think about it. What is an explanatory framework at all? And how much does it really explain? Nonduality reveals that all the workings of the universe are spontaneously self-manifesting beyond explanation. Or, in other words: the universe is fundamentally, irreducibly mystical, or mysterious. At rock bottom everything is consciousness and consciousness interacts with the only thing there is: it self!

Interesting way to see it. Given the use of psychedelics in many cultures it seems that nonduality is everywhere just being expressed in different ways, but viewing a nondual perspective from a dual perspective is like looking at one sided glass from the blind side. And so modern society can tend to screw up many interpretations. Given that hermetic philosophy was also around in Greece it would make sense for the Greek Gods to be personification for your usual people to relate to.

I have been self inquiring for a while and until now I've realized that the Body refers to a bunch of sensations and the sound and the sight of the body which give it the known form. I am not a Body, I sense and percieve the Body. Also i don't see a difference between the body and not body. Same, just this form has sensations, nothing more. Then I contemplated about Am I a Thought??? And I can't know that, except i can experience what is a Thought. I couldn't even describe it but i could find a few qualities of it and observed it as it is. Then I asked where are thoughts? A thought said in the mind! So what the hell is this mind? Unlike thoughts which i could fairly observe them and recognize them, I didnt find anything called the mind. I found out that is it just and idea, a concept. And what is one of the qualities of the thought? It has Content. The content has ideas/concepts. So the mind itself is a thought. Or is it? I finally realized that i dont need to define the things I'm inquiring about because I'm not gonna write a book or teach about it or something.. i just need to observe it and experience it as it is. So i thought defining doesnt do any good in this work. A dictionary can do a much better job. About the ego, i don't think ego exists either. Where is it? What is it? It's just an idea. The symbole "I" as an subjective quality is just a reference to the one who experiences it. But is that the ego? Whats the difference between me and the ego? Then nonduality comes in..false and the True one is the same??? You might say it IS me. But isnt there a Self and a self? A True One and the false one? If the ego is the mind so it is an idea i guess. But why the hell i act like i am someone inside my brain? Because everyone acts like that in the conceptual society. Everyone talks thinks (they "think"?) as if they are bodies/minds. This brain that controls the body, which is also not me, is programmed this way to act. Actually i find self inquiring very enjoyable and very confusing and frustrating. What do you think about it? Also i found out that any answer to a question like "what am I" cannot answer the question, it just delays the question.

He's actually been in several different talks with people like Tolle and such talking Kundalini, nonduality, no self, etc. Seems legit... which is crazy to me because it's fucking Jim Carrey lol More like appearing psychotic

Thank you so much for this episode, Leo. It resonates with and reactivates the knowing from the fresh 5-MEO experience that happened this past weekend. When a human takes a powerful entheogen, there's no control of what the experience of the trip will be. It's like I was repeatedly fucking myself, giving birth to myself, and killing myself, and exploding to a timeless moment of nothingness. Imagine if all omnipotent GOD takes an entheogen, that would be the most infinite holy fuck of all time and space, with experience that's unimaginable and ineffable, the feelings created can be the most soul crushingly beautiful and insane mind shatteringly fucking brutal. The first trip was more challenging and scary, because going into it with fear, the fear will bleed into the experience and that "perfectly" becomes the lesson of that trip. Self-forgiveness and acceptance was the main theme of that first experience, it also serves as a purging, clearing, and opening for future experience. There's no right or wrong way of navigating this reality, only the conditioned ego mind comes in, put values on any experience, and judge it as good or bad. That's a very powerful realization. Even though it was a fucking scaring first experience, it's all worth it because of the contrasting beautiful, love, peace, and knowledge on the other end. One cannot happen without the other, the both ends of the same stick, no matter how you try to cut one end, there's always 2 ends of 1 thing. If I listen to the bullshit of the reconstructed ego, I would not have done a second session the next morning. The feeling or knowing I got from the first experience told me I have more work to do, and I plunge myself into a second ceremony the next day. The second ceremony was even more intense, coming into it with the openness and rawness of the first one. YOU CANNOT DO SURRENDERING! Don't try to remember to surrender or give up, because "YOU" CAN NEVER DO IT! If you think you "surrender", you have not "surrender". Surrender and death happens simultaneously, and that's when you're home... home with nothingness, peaces beyond words, and acceptance of all thing, including the small self and the ego that the ego has practicing and trying so hard to surrender. No one can express oneness and nonduality, no one. There's no sense, perception, or tool a human being have to touch it. It's only when the human construct is not around then THAT IS, just IS. When coming down from peak, massive download of wisdom happened. I continue to experience reactivation and the understanding are still coming 2 days later... There's a lot of uncontrollable crying and intense laughing, it's both fucking hilarious and beautiful. All this BS words I've just shared, cannot be understood by the ego mind. I was on the other side, so I know I've tried. I've been there before the veil drops, so I know how strong, cunning, and aggressive the ego is, so arrogantly think I could figure this out on my own. Yeah, by the way, you can't figure this out, but you can't help it anyways, so just keep doing what you do for the time being, until you're ready to truly do the work and die. You cannot be there and experience God, the process has to annihilate you, then there is. There magnitude of God's hallucination or imagination will make you go insane. The human civilization can begin and end for billions and billions of years, and yet it's no time for God. It's scary when you imagine this human drama of pleasure and suffering can keep repeating for not millions of cycle, but billions and billions of cycle, and yet it's no time and nothing for God. I have to apologize for sharing all these BS words, because it "impossible" to put them into words, just like you try to explain the concept of nothing or infinity, both can never be explained by "something" that is also "finite". All these are just residue experience of the real thing in words. If I can only share one thing here in this reality or going into that reality, is TRUST and LOVE, and just let the process take over you, you HAVE NOT FUCKING CONTROL anyways... just trust and love, remind the ego self, trust and love. The ego cannot be gone in this realm of human interaction. You don't have to or need to make it pleasant for yourself or anyone, BUT, if you so inclined to, put in a virus or trojan horse into the ego, and infect everyone with Trust and Love. It would be like the come down phase of the 5-MEO, when you realize that you like to remind yourself and each other, it's all a game, everything before, now, and forever, is just God's ultimate trip. Love and Trust to you all, brothers and sisters, and you, that sneaky bastard who hides behind all these mask. LOL!

People these days seem to take very seriously the idea of the ego, the idea of consciousness, the idea of presence, the idea of nonduality, the idea of enlightenment, the idea that we are EVERYTHING and NOTHING at the same time. But really these are all just concepts. Has anyone else come to this conclusion? Like, 'spirituality' is just a word which doesn't mean anything. We might as well call it...i don't know, "salad" or "frog"... I sure as hell never cared about all this shit when I was a kid, and it would have struck me as bizarre and pretentious at the time, so why am I so focused on it at this point in my life? I like to think for myself, and throughout all my life I have never experienced myself as 'nothing' or 'everything' .... rather as "SOMETHING"... This is what I am - something. Those who experience themselves as 'everything' are narcissistic and solipsistic, and those who experience themselves as 'nothing' are nihilistic. Ever since I started thinking about how to get rid of my ego, I've just built it up over the years. But in reality there is no such thing as the ego. I think the whole idea of the ego is a result of overthinking. There never was any need to have this concept in my life. Like when Eckhart Tolle describes someone as egotistical for reacting angrily to a situation, it's just a concept of what he happens to believe is egotistical. Again, as with 'spirituality' it's just a word which doesn't mean anything. And as for presence, or being 'in the now', while this can be useful, it is not the be-all and end-all either - because regression and fantasy are both essential facets of being human. Regression (reliving the past) can help to heal trauma, for example, and fantasising is congruent with visualising a better future. Sorry for the rant, but I've just been thinking... And like I say, I like to think for myself...and although I have described myself in the past as 'spiritual', I would actually be embarrassed to say it in front of most people in real life because I wouldn't be being true to myself.

Well said. This is the rationale of awakened teachers that use this approach. I've found that relaxing my personality via yoga, exercise, meditation, journaling etc. allows for a better space for the dissolution of the personality and heightened awareness. I think the key is: when the personality is relaxed, are you working toward reinforcing it, or transcending it? I like how Lisa Cairns explains it. . . after her nondual awakenings became abiding, she tried to teach people to awaken in one big shot. She found that students became confused, rebellious, depressed and suffered. About 2 years ago, her strategy evolved. She now teaches about 50% personal healing/improvement and 50% nonduality. She says this is much more effective in helping people to wake up.

Nonduality and enlightenment are just fun to talk about...so why not be here?

@Mondsee There are tons of awakened women. Many teach small retreats and have youtube stations. For example, check out the science and nonduality list - lots of women. There was also an actualized thread on awakened women. It was enormous - I think well over 100 women.

@StardewValley Not disturbed, just misunderstanding. Someone realized nonduality, that they are All, God, and of course, they tell people about this realization. In this realization, someone realized they were not born, and will never die - so they “realized and escaped the mental masturbatory cycle of life & death.” They were never being born & dying, and they simply realized it. You are not stuck, you simply misunderstood. ?

Can’t talk about nonduality but duality can be disguised. Right dude?