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Materialism arguably causes more suffering. Atheists as you know believe we are a fluke a random coincidence living in a cold heartless universe, separate from everyone and everything. With our death we end everything forever no more world, no souls, no god. Before spirituality the fear of death was driving me insane. I had a chronic disease and believed i would die forever and envied people who are healthy. Now i'm chill accepting and unafraid, even curious of death and my upcoming dmt experience xDD The separation and loneliness aspect also comes from believing you are truly separate from others. That also caused suffering to me. The bliss i felt in oneness is comparable to the bliss i felt when with a partner. This oneness, is pure peace and love our true nature

Currently in a high state of consciousness/euphoria. A lot of thoughts and delusions, but feeling really, really good. So fuck awareness for now, I will enjoy myself. It's been a long time since I last experienced a high state. I'm postponing all practices until further notice. Let me drown in a convalescent bliss!

There is a higher self, below Brahman, a sort of soul self, made of light. I have experienced that self and flying through colorful tunnels of light as well as that self going in and out of realities in my dreams, after i had a few Obes. You could say in a way those slots are taken and if you aren't fully enlightened( Infinite self state) you can't really access those viewpoints. The infinite self viewpoint, which is also the no self can access any viewpoint it wants i think. However you might forget you were a human, or what you wanted to do. The whole thing is layered and very complicated. I wouldn't call myself fully enlightened or even half, as Leo says it is layed, i have seen and experienced different layers and have answered my most wanted questions. However i have only read the infinite self viewpoint. People describe it as seeing souls and others as being your feet or parts of your body. It is when the illusion of the soul merges with the real self. What i think happens after you die is that you explore a few realms or a lot and decide if you want to reincarnate or stay there forever. I have also experienced my infinite self partially as a black formlessness watching over my soul flying in the tunnel. So the thing is really complicated. All I'm sure of is that death is not the end, not by a long shot. Edit: On a salvia trip i also saw the light self projecting me down here, it was like a huge blob of light connected to me by a cord. At first it was alien it even had eye like appendages. I could never forget that experience. I felt only bliss, when experiencing this, only pure bliss. In none of my other trips had i felt such a bliss. Salvia is probably the craziest drug to exist. You can smoke it and become a conscious table. Really teaches you that everything has a consciousness lol

Yes I think you are right. And imagine what happens when all inner distortions gets cleansed: People at that level always have a powerful energy/aura. Meditate without any thoughts and feel the energy and bliss! If the ego is still alive it will disturb you and resist it

Not exactly, but it's not about peace, i thought heaven was just as unavoidable as hell, and that it would last forever as well. But it doesn't change the fact that being burned for millions of years must, at least at some point, hurt a lot. There also be millions of years of bliss and every other conception of heaven, even one where you are being burned and enjoying it (sort of a masochist heaven). But being tortured and hating every minute of it, wanting it to stop and having it continue on and on must also be a part of infinity... Or at least that's the belief that keeps emerging.

Buddha said, “One should not kill a living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should one incite another to kill. Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in the world.” Buddha asks, “All beings tremble before violence. All fear death, all love life. See yourself in others. Run to the rescue with love and peace will follow ~River Phoenex~ ***Warning*** some graphic content at some points of the video that are possibly disturbing. I believe such footage should be brought to the light rather than ignored, for the victims involved. This is related to Self Actualization and belongs in this sub section of the forum, please dont merely move this to the diet section. This relates to mind, beliefs, assumptions, survival and everything to do with compassion.

No, it's something that comes through sometimes and I recognize it as alignment. I could bullshit myself and you into believing that my experience is any certain way, but it's not. There is a knowledge of a kind of connection or source that I recognize has always been there and been my deepest intuition and desire. In the past I thought that this thing I intuited was my deepest flaw, sin or madness and I tried to hide it conform and keep myself alive. I thought my inherent intuitive lack of regard for my life or reputation was madness and I tried to shy away from it. Now that charade is up. The best way I can describe it is as if I am a character, and shit happens that I don't want sometimes, but I know that I am really not the character but the inspiration flowing through the author who is writing my story. And when I align with that it's a kind of bliss that can go anywhere with me. It can go to the deepest grief and sorrow that someone I loved has passed, all while knowing that they have never left, there is no loss and that they are more deeply, intimately me that I can imagine. The same with all the people I have passionately loved or desired but couldn't have. When I'm tapped into that source it feels like I'm madly, deeply in love with everything without needing any of it. Other times, I get legitimately fucking pissed off that my husband can't be bothered to put the toilet seat down. Other times, I devolve into suffering, except it feels very hazy and dreamlike and I can pop out much quicker than I ever did before. I also recognize that whatever I have tapped into and discovered is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't know where this is going. I feel like I've been rescued from my lonely castle and swept away on an adventure, and while normally I'd be scared I'm so, so in love with this formless nonexistent hero who rescued me, that I just don't fucking care. The idea that this has only just begun and I don't know where it's going itself feels like a chill of something moving up my spine, which in the past I may have thought was fear, but now understand as pure bliss and desire. This is just some bullshit romantic story, by some dumb fool in love. Take no note of it. Write your own. You're 100% right though. It's too good to be true.

Bliss. Complaints? I think not, therefore I am...

Bliss is the consciousness of your true nature as infinite nothingness. Bliss is the absence of ego.

What you mean by "finally collapses too"? I can meditate and i really don't know why, but i fear loosing myself completely but also there is, like you said, a bliss state that can emerge and im afraid. What is this sense of bliss? what is your experience? Isn't that ego?

I need to share this. One morning I woke up, during the sunrise and as I looked at the sky I said I wanted to know the Truth. A few seconds later my dad’s favourite song got played out of nowhere. The first few lines of the song said “Love will find the way”. My dad wasn’t there, no one was. It was in Chittagong, my birthplace near the hospital I was born in. This was one of my DEEPEST AWAKENINGS with no substance. Pure love, bliss.

@mandyjw i realize that there is a sense of bliss in the total surrender but also fear. But this is allright. Yeah i can see how if i meditated for example i could see the image in front of my eyes as void and indescribable. Also there is a sense of wander "wow. What is this?... Wow... What is this?!" like "i" am seeing it for the first time.... Was that also your experience? Mm.. Like there is not a brain so i get it that it's just a story. But leo, when "i" close my eyes and the body goes to "sleep" what the fuck happends there? (just to be clear, im comparing the state of sleep with the death of the body) In the sense that it's a story. Right? Something that the "i" believes. Allright. Yes exactly. I wanted to hang myself or shoot myself. I called my mom and told her for the first time i was going through "a tough time" and cryied in front of her. I held her hand trying to "please feel like she exists". Really believed i had to go to a psychiatric hospital. But nobody would understand and nobody could help me. But i've gone through that now. And was able to stop and keep my mental sanity so to say ahaha. Yes awakening is something else... To be clear, i never had a god realization and don't know if it's true what you say Here. But, i don't know if i agree with you here... After all reality is me and i am reality. So if somebody helps me it's like im helping myself no? Leo, i believe you also meditated with someone for guidance, red books or had mentors or somebody that you trusted. Especially when you go through a tough time to be fair. What if i loose my mind doing this? There is nobody i could compare my experience to! Also, is a state of bliss awakening or is it just ego? What's your experience? When i talked about annihilation there also is a sense of bliss... But im skeptical here when talking about something that is too good to be true.

Yeah, the collapse of the collapse is bliss. If you want to imagine wreckage and void, go for it I guess. When that finally collapses too, it'll just seem all the more amazing.

Never-ending love We’ve been doing this for eternity... Loving ourselves Infinitely Endlessly... Beingness The gentle pain of existence Softly caresses the echoes of your heart And when you feel tired It turns and hugs As the shiver on your skin Giving you a kiss The curse of that endlessness An infinite desire from separateness Taking a lifetime of beingness To give you the love from wholeness I sometimes feel All of my life in one single undivided moment All the emotions All the beauty All the love All the pain At once... Sacred tree Sacred tree Sitting alone In a dream Its arms folding Onto the beams of light The dream is asleep It speaks a thousand tongues In and out of its being Through the blood it drank In this realm of beauty Being a part of grace It seeps into you and me Fueling the voices of our pain The sacred tree speaks... It was once nothing Through the endless being It became something Nonduality, duality Existence and essence All are moving and being Living and dying Loving and hating Without time The gift The gift Of existence Something we granted ourselves It is through eternity That we see the bliss in mortality It is through difficulties That we can love without pain It is from the words that we sang That we hear the truth speak In silence We see the lives of infinite beings Living Through the cycles of love and pain And being aware of here We felt the love from that sacred place Speaking, without a word Being, love. Transcendence The bell rings at the wake of dawn Singing the echo of that holy song Where in this moment we shall sit And await the presence of next gong The wind is howling about a secret Of the magical beauty in the now As it flew, it kissed my skin And took away all my wrongs The drum beating in my chest Speaking the words of divine love Where no mind nor thoughts, Can disturb this song I am... Nothing more

I can't experience it looking a wall. I experience it smoking 5 meo, when the thought stops, there is not you anymore, no time, no space, nothing. No love, no bliss, no wonderful being, absolute nothing, but the nothing is alone. So the nothing is. I'd like to make possible go so deep without any substance, but seems impossible

I've just gone down in fewer and its effect on energy is astonishing. First it removed my identification and connection with body, mind and energy. With that there was not much thought, feelings and my senses had gone down. Energy was also very limited and the production of energy low. Would it even be possible to be blissful in such a state. Yes being fully present is even easier but there are not much of any emotion and there's a headache to make the experience of no joy. In the end does your experience of life all come down to energy? Can't you experience something more in such a depressive state? For example what if someone had this chronically and wouldn't be able to cure it. What would be the meaning of their life when there is no energy to do so much as feel a little bit of joy? I've heard and experienced not to give attention to strengthen the consequence of a state of being which can be an emotion (ecstasy). But instead give attention or strengthen the state which causes that emotion. So I easily let go of my mind and body but no energy formed to bring me to such states of blissful body. Is there something I did wrong? Or is this just the cause of invading viruses. I've claimed that I did awaken not long ago when I could just let go of ego and immerse myself in a life altering experience. But the experience wasn't anything particular now in sickness, everything just became very still, but what is the meaning of such a boring experience where there's not enough energy for much consciousness or attention to be used. I wonder what is even the meaning of being on this world. If not to serve the world, because what else would you do when every other aspect of life is fulfilled. Then it doesn't really matter if I experience bliss body or not during sickness. Because bliss bodys function normally would be to continue this life purpose to a higher capability. And can be continued in sickness as well just not to the same extent that your being as able to the when you are healthy. Is this how it works? Btw I always get answers from within so I am not seeking anything from my questions particularly. Many on this forum takes my questions as things I can't or haven't answered for myself already and therefore belittles my knowledge or spiritual advancement, please aldo don't be too analytical of my sentences. They are written in a way for a reason. Thank you! Together we share knowledge/insights with the furum and help each others??

After a very potent psilocybin journey about a month ago, I've been in this phase where I don't really have a desire to change others. Maybe if someone punches me in the face, I'd want them to stop. I'm not talking about that necessarily. More like I no longer feel this burning desire to "save the world" and convince others to think, act or believe the ways I do. It's more like I'm living in a dream and am just witnessing everyone going about life to the best of their abilities. I wouldn't describe it as apathetic, because on a personal level I still want to act with love and the values that I feel personally called to live by, it's just that I'm less stressed about others doing so also. It's bizarre to feel this way especially amongst stage Green culture where everyone around me is trying to save the world and freaking out about other people's actions and words. Which all makes sense to me, I just don't resonate with the desire as strongly. My fear is that I'm somehow spiritual bypassing the world and stuck in my own little bubble of bliss while others suffer. But I guess my counter argument to this is that I still want to help people, it's just I only want to help those who want to be helped, not trying to force others to change. So in that sense, perhaps this is healthy? Wondering if others can relate with this, and if there's red flags with anything I've stated above. Thanks!

Ignorance is bliss until you hit the ground as Sadhguru says. Usually suffering is the biggest reason for people to find out about this path. And actually there is no such thing as unenlightenment, because that implies that there is a person who has to become enlightenment.

So I went for a walk in nature today and I regenerated a lot. The only worrying thing is that I got bullied a lot on the streets, nasty looks, buri nazar, envy, anger, frustration.. I feel empathy and brotherly love towards these people. I hope they find what they really need as soon as possible. I listened to some meditation music and I regenerated even more. But for some reason I realized God. And it was nice, because I dropped my BELIEF in God lately.... only to find myself opening my eyes see the real GOD. Then I realized non-existence. Not the first time I do, but this time it lasted a couple seconds longer. I felt pure bliss, I closed my eyes and dissolved into it. It was peaceful. This all happened in a few minutes after my meditation session. Today I didn't really do much work or chores. I cleaned my room, and I took a shower this morning. I went outside and I made drawings. I did my mantra practices. But most of my work was spirituality related. And calling it work seems kinda wrong, because it was more like play. I also got my books. And read a bit. I will now watch Leo's videos.

The first few months of my journy was awsome, then I hit my first ego backlash. After this my mood and life started fluctuate a lot more. Now my life in general consist of a couple of weeks feeling happy followed by a couple of days of an ego backlash ( down). Sometimes it can even be more up and down than that - where I can experience bliss and peace one day to then feel super anxious the next day ( spells of depression/ mood swings) My question is therefor, How often does ego backlash generally happen? What is your experience with ego backlashes? How do you guys motivate yourself when you experience mood swings going from high conciousness to low conciousness? P.s I meditate 40 min everyday + wim hof method.

It is my view that if one has even light trauma, it must be processed/balanced/integrated before everlasting happiness/bliss/peace may be remembered/realized/actualized. Some people can integrate trauma through their own process of meditation (or plant medicine / entheogens) however many humans will require help from an expert. This is my view. True unity is found when all lower blockage is cleared thus triumphing into the true Sunday (7th) achieving full coronation (crown chakra / pineal activation). We get glimpses of illumination on the path however often we are required to continue working in the lower before higher activation may occur.

@SonataAllegro Ask yourself why do you want to buy this book? The word 'Yoga' is derived from the Sanskrit root 'Yuj', meaning 'to join' or 'to yoke' or 'to unite', meaning that yoga is a practice to unite with the Source, Your Higher Self, The One, God or whatever you'd like to call it. There are many paths of yoga, for example. 1. RAJA YOGA Raja yoga focuses on meditation and contemplation in order to fully realize the self. Known as the royal (Raja) or king path of yoga, it is based on the eight-limbed path toward self-realization outlined in Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra, and tends to attract the more spiritually devoted practitioners. 2. BHAKTI YOGA Bhakti yoga is the path of devotion, emphasizing devotional love for and surrender to God, the Source or the One Creator. By seeing the Divine in everyone and everywhere, Bhakti yoga cultivates acceptance, tolerance, forgiveness and unconditional love for all beings. Bhakti yoga also involves a lot of chanting and kirtan (call and response) that evokes feelings of love, connection, and bliss. 3. JNANA YOGA Jnana yoga is the path of wisdom and knowledge (Jnana), involving a disciplined study of scriptures and constant inquiry into the nature of the self. Any form of study into the nature of the self or the truth of our existence will aid in reaching deeper states of you. Often called the yoga of the mind, Jnana yoga is well suited for the more intellectually inclined. 4. KARMA YOGA Karma yoga is the path of selfless action, the yoga of doing. Selfless service is the heart of karma yoga. Remaining completely detached from the outcome of their actions, Karma yogis are in continual service to the betterment of all beings with no intention of physical gain. Karma is fundamentally about learning lessons. One learns through positive action that as you help others, so are you helped. It’s a rewarding teaching mechanism in that sense. And one learns through negative action that as one hurts others, so are you hurt, in order to understand the consequences of your actions. Negative karma can be resolved by discharging the soul imprint through forgiveness and understanding. Karmic experiences can be prevented by understanding their core lessons before they are attracted. 5. MANTRA YOGA Mantra yoga is the yoga of sound. Considered sacred utterances, mantras are syllables, words, or phrases representing a particular attribute of the Divine. There are certain seed mantras that resonate with each of the unique energy centers or chakras. One of the most common mantras is ‘OHM’, which resonates with the foundational vibration of our existence. Mantra yoga is the practice of becoming centered through the repetition of mantras. 6. HATHA YOGA Hatha yoga, which most people think yoga to be these days, is the practice of yoga postures, or asanas, using the conscious combination of the breath and body movements to rise to higher states of clarity, groundedness and peace of mind. It sees the body as the primary vehicle for self-actualization and transformation. You also have your unique path. Know that your journey in life is absolutely unique to you and will most likely involve many of the aspects mentioned above. For example, you can simply imagine combining certain daily postures, with a mediation and/or contemplation practice, studying certain philosophies you resonate with, while also being compassionately proactive about helping or serving others. Hope this helps

I believe it to mastery of the self and your highest service. Once you realize that you truly expand, multiply and magnify Love, Light & Consciousness, both within and without, by serving others, and that ultimately service is the most beautiful thing there is, more satisfying than sitting in meditative bliss, your own will and your Higher Will align and you become a pure vessel of the One, automatically, seamlessly and magically driving you beyond your deepest dreams, highest potential and wildest expectations. Enjoy the ride!

Awesome! Hold your left hand out a bit with your palm up. Take some stomach breathes, relax the whole body, ‘let go’, and when you feel the energy tingling into the left palm, hold your right palm above each chakra, one at a time, from bottom to top, feeling the spinning. Feel the direction of the spin, and also you’ll notice a feeling as if a record spinning which is not perfectly flat, like an energetic record with energy ‘lumps’ brushing against the right palm. Spin counterclockwise with the intention of removing / emptying any ‘lumps’, and then clockwise, evening out the chakra by filling it with energy from your right palm. With practice you’ll feel the energy into the left hand...through your entire body...and then through the right hand, back into the body aligning the chakras in a more and more balanced yet energetically intense manor as you go. Then move both palms slowly from lowest to to highest chakra and feel all of them spinning clockwise together at the same speed. Feel the energy coming from below the body, up and out through the top of your head. Caution: bliss may ensue. Also, after aligning the chakras, with the left ‘receiving hand’ lightly make the ‘ok’ ?? hand gesture (with palm facing up), and feel how the energy changes in the sense it is more concentrated. Make the same gesture with the right hand, palm facing out / away, and with practice you’ll feel the entire body as if one whole chakra. Weird as it may sound, you’ll eventually (if not right away) feel around your body exactly as if it was your ‘regular’ body. (The aura)

Hi everyone, Very informative thread here. I've been experimenting with 5 for about 3 months now.. probably have done around 40 trips? at first I was using the mason jar method found on youtube and now have upgraded to the APX Volt which is such a great little device. Anyway, I'm writing this message to try and figure out my experience. I feel I haven't had a breakthrough experience and certainly not any where there is infinite bliss and love. My last 10 trips last around 20 - 30 minutes and are incredibly intense. The best way I can describe it is an indescribably fast zooming out of consciousness into an infinite white void. During the first 20 minutes, there is no absolutely no sense of self. My sense of ego slowly kicks in around the 20-25 minute mark and I manage to open my eyes and all I see is white. I try and look for my body and cannot see it. I try and breathe into my lungs and I cannot feel it. But slowly, "normal" reality starts to set in. This was quite frightening at first.. part of me wondering if I'll be stuck in this white void forever! haha. The main "realization" from these trips is being in awe of the magnitude of consciousness but I do not recall a sense of communing with an infinite power/love. It's a very pragmatic? logical kind of experience.. not very spiritual/mind fuckery-esque. Unfortunately I am unable to tell you the dosage I am using as I simply use the micro spoon that came with the APX Volt. Various reddit members have said it to be around 10uG and I have been using about 1.5 scoops so approx 15uG if that measurement is correct. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Do I simply need to up the dosage? I feel like the experiences I have been having have been incredibly intense but does having a breakthrough experience mean absolutely obliterating this sense of self (one way ticket) with more 5? Any insight would be appreciated. Thank you