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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcSdnn1e_8E&list=PLKMsyL4RqSavh4SfSVFYpKIvFm5pirzL3&index=2 My playlist is diverse, ranging from abstract & dark techno to blissful dance and Rastafarian (and mixes of each, all the highest quality). Please let me know your thoughts @Leo Gura (dont miss some of these diamonds :D) [im also gona be adding to it, i have years of collection] <3 peace, love and existential bliss to all <3
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So lately in the forum the 'bliss' word have been coming up a lot...there seems to be people against it and people saying is the only thing to seek in the path. Here's what I found: Bliss is not just a normal state of consciousness. Bliss feels 'bliss' (or very good), because when the Bliss is being experienced, there is non-localisation of Consciousness. And what happens when there is not a feeling of existing inside anything? That you exist everywhere = Unity. So the 'state of consciousness' of Bliss is not just a dumb empty feeling that feels so good just because of nothing. It feels so good precisely because Unity is being experienced. So when some of you guys say... Ask yourself this question: Are you actually with that understanding or 100 Awakenings reached, experiencing Unity right now? Here's the thing: That dumb Bliss... actually provides Unity 100% of times! It never fails. Is direct. What about the profound data and understanding you have gathered? How many times when you hold those thoughts in your mind, Unity is being experienced? Just some interesting questions I think some of you guys would benefit from... Would love your input on this @Water by the River
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Where does one begin the search for spiritual truth self-realization called enlightenment? Dr. David Hawkins’ List Below has been calibrated above 500, which is unconditional love. I find this list important, as I do not want to be duped (smile) on my spiritual path by any book or teacher not yet teaching from the conscious level of (500+ which is unconditional non-duality love.) Hawkins’ Consciousness Scale ranges from 0-1000, (1000 is the Highest Level of pure/consciousness humanly possible.) “The great avatars that set the ultimate paradigm of reality and standard of conduct for all of humanity for thousands of years. Of those, the Lords Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, and Jesus Christ all calibrate at 1,000. All the names for Divinity calibrate as Infinity. The revered great sages and their teachings calibrate in the 700 (extremely rare), such Huang Po and Ramana Maharshi.” -Hawkins After being a student of Dr. Hawkins for a while now, I can share with you that I have forever been changed by his love. Although I’m not yet Enlightened I’m certainly on the path and nothing would take me off it, as I have discovered God’s Love is my LIFE. According to Hawkins we, as humans, live at vastly different “levels” of consciousness. All these levels, along with the “truth level” of ANY true/false style inquiry, can be tested for truth and numerically “calibrated” through muscle testing, on a logarithmic scale of 1-1000. According to Hawkins, any person, concept, thought or object that calibrates at 200 (The level of Integrity) or above is positive (“power”); anything below 200 is negative (“force”). So far, so good. Hawkins’ “map of the levels of human consciousness” is highly consistent with most spiritual teachings, running the range from Shame (lowest) to Enlightenment (highest). Hawkins’ descriptions of the levels are accurate; his personal growth coverage , positive energy and similar concepts are spiritually sound. (This is further discussed in Dr. David Hawkins book, Power vs. Force) Below is Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. ‘List’ of calibrated Spiritual Teachers/Teachings/Places/Books and Mantras that are over the conscious level of 500 UNCONDITIONAL LOVE: [500] – LOVE This level is categorized by love that is very close to being unconditional, unchanging, and permanent. It does not fluctuate nor does it depend on external factors. Love is a state of being. It is a forgiving, nurturing, and a supportive way of relating to the world. It is not intellectual and does not come from the human mind. Love radiates from the heart Chakra. It has the capacity to life others and accomplishes great feats because of its purity of motive. At this level of consciousness, the capacity to discern essence becomes predominant. The core of an issue becomes the center of focus. As reason is bypassed, there arises the capacity for instantaneous recognition of the totality of a problem. Reason only deals with particulars, whereas Love deals with entireties. This ability, often called intuition, is the capacity for instantaneous understanding without resorting to sequential symbol processing. There is a major paradigm shift in those things, which seemed real, which now seem unreal and vice versa. This level opens to door to benevolence, mercy, and Forgiveness through understanding and nonjudgmental. Only 4% of the entire population of the earth attains this level. Because of the dominating power of light over darkness, one individual at this level counterbalances 750,000 people below the 200 levels. This is the level at which spirituality starts, since below this, individuals are still caught up in the linear world. Also the level of a songbird’s song, cat’s purr, and a dog’s wagging tail. [505] – The level of valor. Also the level of Dante. [510] – The current level of Catholicism. Also the level of the Ganges River, which demonstrates the power of spiritual intention, the power of prayer. It calibrates there despite having sewage from 100 metropolitan areas, all kinds of filth, even bodies. [520] – This level interestingly sees much country music, which may be due to the lyrics often speaking about the problems of the heart, emotionally speaking. [535] – The energy level of Christmas, which is probably due to the common practice of giving gifts to others and having festive celebrations with good tidings. [540] – Joy – At this level, love truly becomes unconditional. It becomes experienced as inner joy. This is not the sudden feeling of joy because of a turn of events. Rather, it is a constant accompaniment in everything the individual does in every moment of his or her life. Joy comes from each moment of existence. This is also the level of healing and spiritually based self-help groups. What has been known as ‘miracles’ occurs when someone is at this level of consciousness. Only 0.4% of the global population is at this level. This is also the level of truth of Christian practice in the 6th century AD. This is the level at which the third eye opens, physically known as the Pineal Gland. Devotional acts calibrate at 540, because of the power of their intention. Includes folding hands in prayer, kneeling to pray, genuflection, praying at the Wailing Wall, turning a prayer wheel, etc. [540+] – From this level upward, it is the domain of saints, advanced spiritual students, and healers. A capacity for enormous patience and the persistence of a positive attitude in the face of prolonged adversity is characteristic of this level. The hallmark of this state is Compassion. [540] – The calibration of the music of George Harrison, on an overall basis. Also the level of Socrates. [540-600] – This level of consciousness is reached after a person has a Near Death Experience, which are spiritually transformative and allowed individuals to quickly get to this level. At this level, the world seems illuminated by the beauty and perfection of creation. Everything happens effortlessly, by synchronicity, and the world and everything in it is seen to be an expression of love and divinity. A Presence is felt whose power facilitates phenomena outside conventional expectations of reality, and often termed ‘miraculous’ by the ordinary observer. The spiritual teachers in this level are the ones who have the most contact with significant numbers of people. At this level, joy leads many to become spiritual and inspirational teachers, healers, great artists, or even architects who create the great cathedrals that involve sacred geometry, great inspirational music, and the production of beauty in all its forms. Many major persuasions of Christianity including Roman Catholicism, Anglicanism, Christian Science, and many small denominations such as the Quakers calibrate on this level. [560] – Carl Jung was at this level. Sigmund Freud was below the level of 500 because of his denial of man’s spirituality, whereas Jung affirmed the spiritual nature of human beings. [575] – The level consciousness of ecstasy. [600]- A Course in Miracles (Workbook year of 365 days of lessons.) According to David Hawkins, ACIM calibrates around 600+, making it very factual, and quite enlightening. Here is what Hawkins says about the Bible: Quote: The Old Testament calibrates at only 190. However, Genesis is at 660, Psalms is 650, Proverbs is 350. If these are excluded then the remaining Old Testament calibrates at only 125. The New Testament calibrates at 640. However if Revelations were removed (calibrates at only 70) then the New Testament would calibrate at 790. The current bible calibrates at 475 as a whole. To make it authentically “Holy” as the title implies, it would have to exclude all of the books of the Old Testament (except Genesis, Psalms and Proverbs) and Revelations. If that were done, then the bible would be truly “Holy” and calibrate at over 740. Importantly, the Lamsa version of the bible (Translated from Aramaic, Jesus’ language) is more accurate than the King James Version (translated from Greek). It calibrates 20 points higher. If the Lamsa bible excluded the old testament (except Genesis, Psalms, Proverbs) and revelations it would calibrate at 810. If Revelations were removed from the Lamsa version of the New Testament, it would calibrate at a whopping 880. Society calibrates at 204 I think he said, with great minds on earth calibrating around 499-510 ranges. So at least according to Hawkins, ACIM is very important and highly relevant work. Hawkins own books calibrate from 850-999.5 ranges them, with 1000 being maximum for humanity – that is what Jesus was when he was walking the earth. Hawkins further says that in his calibration studies, students of ACIM at lesson 75 become “Immune” to negative stimuli. He says that this seems to be the critical point in the studies, but that they must be followed from 1-75 before it all really clicks for people. [600] – Peace – This level is associated with the experience designated by such terms as transcendence, Self-Realization, and Christ consciousness. It is extremely rare. Only 1 in 10,000,000 attain this at any given time. It is quite common that individuals at this level remove themselves from society, as the state of bliss that ensues precludes ordinary activity. Some become spiritual teachers; others work anonymously for the betterment of mankind. A few also become great geniuses in their respective fields and make major contributions to society. These individuals are saintly and may eventually be officially designated as such, although at this level, formal religion is commonly transcended and replaced by pure spirituality, from which religions originated. Bliss intervenes at this level and worldly activities stop, sometimes permanently. This level is also noted for the crossing over from the perceptual world of duality, to the perceptual world of Nonduality. Beyond this level, previous lives are easily remembered as well as the circumstances and significance of each life. One individual at this level counterbalances 10,000,000 below the level of 200. Perception at this level is reported as sometimes occurring in seemingly slow motion, suspended in time and space. Nothing is stationary and all is alive and radiant. Although this world is the same one that is seen by others, it has become continuously fluid, evolving in an exquisitely coordinated evolutionary dance in which significance and source are overwhelming. There is an infinite silence in the mind, which has stopped conceptualizing. Enlightenment is reached at levels 600 and higher. A Tibetan abbot once said that Peace is of the greatest importance in our world today. In the absence of peace, we lose what we have gained. In the presence of peace, all things are possible: love, compassion, and forgiveness. Peace is the source of all things. This is also the level of kinesiology. [605]- The level of the Kabbalah and Aurobindo. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe. [610] – The level of Lao Tzu and his teachings. [630] – The calibration of the phrase Om Namaha Shivaya. [640] – The King James Version of the New Testament. [650] – The Book of Psalms. Also the level of ‘I AM’ awareness and Awareness of the ‘I’ as being or is-ness. Also the level of “Shanti Shanti Shanti”. The Lord’s Prayer also calibrates on this level. [660] – The perception of the Self as simply Existence. [700-1000] – Self-Realization and Enlightenment – An individual at this level counterbalances the negativity of 70,000,000 individuals below the level of 200. This is also the level of Sages. The Self is seen as God Manifest. The Declaration of Independence resonates at this level. The Koran also resonates at this level, as it was written before the fall of Mohamed after he ‘took up the sword’. [700s] – The Aura emanating from individuals calibrating at this level has an attraction and an effect on visitors. They like to be near the presence of these individuals because they feel incredible inner peace. Serenity replaces fear and anxiety in those who are around individuals on this level. A typical statement given by a person on this level would be something like “There is no world to save; reality is just an illusion.” A statement such as this is not understandable to most at lower levels. [700] – The level of the phrase Om Mane Padme Hum [705] – The level of the Rig Veda [700+] – There are 22 sages on this planet who calibrate at this level or higher, according to Dr. Hawkins. Of those, 20 of them are at 800 or more, of whom there are 10 at or over 900, and one sage at 990. [740] – The mantra Om, as opposed to Aum, which is a serious alternation and is why it calibrates at the extremely low-level of 65. This is also the level of the New Testament, if the Book of Revelations is included. This is also the level of Mohamed at the time he wrote the Koran, before dropping to 130 after he ‘took up the sword’ at age 38. ‘I’ is seen as a total statement As the Ultimate Reality. [750] – Manifestation calibrates at this level. What appears to be change is the emergence of potentiality out of essence into manifestation. This is also the level of the Lamsa translation of the New Testament from Aramaic. [760] – Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi [780] – The Heart Sutra and the Lotus Sutra. [795] – Bodhidharma as well as the Zen teachings. [800] – Teacher of Enlightenment. [800s] – There is not much that is known about this level range. However, it is seen that salvation of all of humanity is a main priority and concern. [810] – The level of Ramayana [840] – The Self is seen as Beyond Existence or Nonexistence. [850] – The higher Self as Logos. This is also the level of Hinduism currently. Also the level of Void, Oneness, Nothingness, Reality as Consciousness, and Reality as Awareness. [855] – The level of Allness [890] – Hinayana Buddhism (lesser vehicle) and Zen Buddhism. [800s and 900s] – Salvation of humanity as a whole is of primary concern. Spiritual reality, essences, and understandings are of importance. Form and its details are irrelevant except as a necessary style for communication. Physical discomfort starts to increase quite visibly in these levels of consciousness. [900] – Buddhism was this level in the 6th century AD. The teachings of this particular religion have deteriorated less than any other religion. [910] – The Bhagavad-Gita [930] – the level of the esoteric teachings of Jesus Christ as of the 2nd century AD, some of which survived in the Gnostic texts. “After my departure there will arise the ignorant and the crafty, and many things will they ascribe unto Me that I never spake, and many things which I did speak will they withhold, but the day will come when the clouds shall be rolled away, and the Sun of Righteousness shall shine forth with healing in his wings.” ~Jesus, The Essene Gospel of Peace. [960] – Mahayana Buddhism (greater vehicle). Also the level of Huang Po (his book “Dharma of Mind Transmission” is at the level of the void 850, and was written before Po transcended to 960). [965] – The Buddha’s Law of Dependent Origination or Interdependent Co-Creation. [965] – Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, by David R. Hawkins [970] – The Upanishads The Upanishads -are Hindu scriptures that constitute the core teachings of Vedanta. The Upanishads have exerted an important influence on the Hindu philosophy and were collectively considered one of the 100 Most Influential Books Ever Written by the British poet Martin Seymour-Smith. [985] – This is the level of an Avatar. [990] – There is only one living sage at this level, according to Dr. Hawkins. [999] – The statement “There is no cause of anything” calibrates at this level. [1000] – This is the maximum energy level that can be tolerated by the human body and nervous system. It is the extremely rare level of avatars from ages past. No human has ever existed with a consciousness calibration higher than 1000. The archetypes Christ, Buddha, and Krishna are at this level. This state is also the existence of Buddhahood, Christ Consciousness, At-Oneness with the Source Manifest and Unmanifest. Beyond the human realm of consciousness possibility: [1000+] – Buddhahood, Brahman, Christ, Krishna, The ‘I’ of Ultimate Reality. Infinity – The Source of reality manifest as divinity. The supreme creation Source of consciousness eternal. The Source of all that is. Interesting Facts Concerning consciousness calibration, there are some very interesting facts. * Powerful patterns are associated with health; weak patterns are associated with sickness. Every thought, emotion, word & action has one pattern or the other. Every moment of our day we are either moving towards health or sickness. * Everything calibrates at certain levels from weak to high including books, food, water, clothes, people, animals, buildings, cars, movies, sports, music etc. * A good amount of the music today calibrates at levels below 200. Hence it leads to behavior associated with lower energy levels of consciousness. * Most movies will weaken people who watch them by bringing their energy levels down below the 200 level of consciousness. * 85% of the human race calibrates below the critical level of 200. * The power of the few individuals at the top counterbalances the weakness of the masses. o 1 individual at level 300 counterbalances 90,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 400 counterbalances 400,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 500 counterbalances 750,000 individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 600 counterbalances 10 million individuals below level 200 o 1 individual at level 700 counterbalances 70 million individuals below level 200 o 12 individuals at level 700 equal one Avatar (eg. Buddha, Jesus, Krishna) at level 1,000 * Any meaningful human satisfaction cannot even commence until the level of 250 where some degree of self-confidence begins to emerge. * When one’s consciousness falls below 200 at any given moment you start to lose power and thus grow weaker and more prone to be manipulated by one’s surroundings. * Parts of one’s life will calibrate at a higher level of consciousness while other parts will calibrate a lower levels. It’s the overall average that determines one’s consciousness. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ List of Books – muscle tested by D. Hawkins BOOKS Bhagavad-Gita 910 Vedas 910 Zohar 720 Ramayana 810 Mahabarata 780 Kabala 720 Apocrypha 740 Tora 740 Koran 700 Heart Sutra 780 Lotus Sutra 780 Diamond Sutra 700 Gospel of Thomas 660 Dead Sea Scrolls 650 Book of Kells 570 Vedanta 595 King James bible 475 Lamsa bible 495 Genesis (Lamsa) 660 Psalms 650 Proverbs 350 New Testament (KJ) 640 Lamsa bible (minus Old Testament& revelations, but including Genesis, Psalms, & Proverbs 880 Tibetan Book of the Dead 575 San Hedron 240 Yoga sutras (Patanjali) 630 A Cource In Miracles 600 Book of Mormon 510 SPIRITUAL PRACTICES Christian communion 700 Transcendental Meditation 220 Qiqong 195 Tai chi 310 Hatha yoga 260 Kung Fu 410 Rebirthing 250 Est 400 Sedona Releasing 490 Avatar workshops 245 Seth books 470 Reiki 285 Scientology 195 Rosicrucian 405 Science of Mind 405 I Ching 430 Theosophy 365 Druids 450 PRAYERS AND MANTRAS Lord’s Prayer 650 Om 740 Om Namaha Shivaya 630 Shanti Shanti 650 Om Mane Padme Hum 700 Gregorian Chants 595 Japa 525 Jesus’ Prayer 525 Rosary 515 Prayer of Jabez 310 Cursing (Lord’s name in vain) 45 Damning people to hell 15 Ankh (symbol) 160 Shaktipat Energy 160 SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS “None get to heaven but by me” 940 Eye of the I 900 I (as divinity) 980/998 I (as allness) 990 I (as void) 990 I (as supreme) 1000 Buddha Nature 1000 Justice 380 Justice as “eye for an eye” 375 Theology 460 RELIGIONS BUDDHISM Mahayana 980 Zen 890 Hinayana 890 Lotus Land 740 Tantric 515 Tibetan 490 Won 405 CHRISTIANITY 1st Century 980 After Council of Nicea 485 College of Cardinals 490 Papacy 570 Coptic 475 Born Again 350 Gnostic 290 Modern Protestantism 510 Christian Science 410 Modern Catholicism 440 Jesuit Order 440 Catholic position on pedophelia 90 Amish 375 Quakers 505 Unity 540 Pentacostal 310 Puritan 210 TV Evangelist 205 LDS (Mormon) 390 7th Day Adventist 190 Right Wing fundamentalist 95 Right wing fund. Tv evang. 90 Jehovah’s Witness 195 HINDU Ancient 700 Modern 499 Hari Krishna 460 Subud 470 Sikh 420 Tamal Siddha Vedanta 330 Raja Yoga 485 Sahaj Marg 410 Jainism 495 Islam 700 Current Mohamadism 325 Muslims 205 Shiite Muslims 55 Judaism (modern) 530 Shinto 350 Taoism 500 Unification Church 150 Wicca 160 New Ageism 185 NAMES OF GOD Buddha Nature (as allness) 1000 Buddha Nature (as void) 980 Native American Great Spirit 850 Yahweh 460 Jehovah 205 Elohim 100 God of Old Testament 100 Greek Gods 90 Germanic Gods 90 Scandinavian Gods 90 Gods of War 90 Pagan Gods 100 Name of God as “OM” tests negative God Transcendent 1000 God Immanent 1000 SPIRITUAL TITLES Master 700 Saint 700 Lord 1000 Angels 550 Archangels 50,000 Enlightenment 600 Teacher of the Way to Enlightenment 800 Pope 570 True Guru 540 + Guru (prior to 1960’s) 540 Guru (since the ’60’s) 190 Baba 190 SPIRITUAL TEACHER CALIBRATIONS Avatars Jesus Christ 1000 Buddha 1000 Krishna 1000 Zoroaster 1000 Spiritual Teachers Huang Po 960 Gandhi 760 Mother Theresa 710 Meister Eckhart 700 Chief Detroit 650 Karmapa 630 Muktananda 750 Vivekananda 610 Ramakrishna 620 Rabbi Moses de Leon 720 Nisargadatta Maharaj 720 Ramana Maharshi 720 Ramesh Balsekar 760 Confucius 590 St. Patrick 590 Wallace Black Elk 499 John Calvin 580 John Wesley 360 Martin Luther 580 Dalai Lama 570 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 410 Robert Powell 575 Joel Goldsmith 455 HWL Poonja 370 Wei Wu Wei 475 Charles Filmore 485 Padmasambava 595 Satchitananda 605 Meher Baba 240 Sri Karumay 221 Tenzin Gyaltsen 599 Alice Bailey 445 Vernon Howard 455 Patanjali 660 Peter Ousepensky 335 Robert Schuller 405 Thich Naht Hahn 460 Nostradamus 220 Yogananda 540 Lao Tzu 520 Alan Watts 485 John Blofield 465 Poonjaji 520 Bernadette Roberts 445 Ram Das 420 Chungliang Al Huang 405 C.W. Leadbetter 485 John Bradshaw 460 M Scott Peck 475 Gangaji 475 Joseph Smith 520 Emmett Fox 470 Thomas Merton 520 Hazrat Khan 499 Sant Thahar Singh 315 C.S. Lewis 390 Sri Siva (Sri Guruji) 220 Joseph Campbell 410 Source: Dr. David Hawkins numerous books and seminars including Power Vs. Force and Dr. Hawkins June 28 2003 Sedona Seminar. Gloria in Excelsis Deo! Source: https://nancybragin.com/2012/12/29/dr-david-hawkins-calibrated-reading-list/ NAMASTE
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I've been reluctant to discuss this until it felt resolved, but more as a warning to those who choose to swim in deep water. Firstly, this needs to be prefaced by saying that I have the utmost respect for Leo and his willingness to share and be open about his experiences. Secondly, I consider myself a psychonaut with 20 years of experience. Perhaps not to the extent that some may consider, but to give some context: I've done 50+ ayahuasca experiences, 5-MeO breakthrough doses 5+ times, and at least 20 hugs/handshakes, as well as iboga, countless High doses LSD and mushroom trips, and various other experiences. I've never been on antidepressants and never felt suicidal. I've been open to the realms that these modalities offer, mostly out of curiosity and interest. On average, 99% of my trips have been good—challenging at times, but ultimately transformative. They have taken me to the edge, and I have learned through facing the fear. Of course, some trips involve shadow work, but I have come to embrace this wholeheartedly. So, this isn’t my first rodeo. I know what bad trips are like. Having worked with ayahuasca in the Amazon jungle for years, facing a multitude of spaces, I felt well-prepared. March 2024 I found Leo’s video on "The Other God Particle" interesting and located the substance from a very reputable source, trying Malt as per Leo's suggestion (plugging). My first experience was with a very light dose (7mg) to see if it was legit and matched his description. The first experience was incredible and exactly as he described. A light dose but I knew that it was legit However, I will say that my recollection of the experience soon disappeared after grounding. All in all, it was a net positive. A week later, I decided to increase the dose to 12mg - still fairly light Administered in the same way, this experience was even more beautiful. I navigated the space wonderfully, and at the peak, I was floating in a realm I can only describe as absolute bliss. Then, in an instant, like a switch being flipped, everything vanished. As high as I had been, it all disappeared. Gone. As infinitely vast as the love and bliss I had just experienced, I now found myself in the polar opposite. No matter what I did—no matter what shamanic tools I had spent over 10 years developing—nothing could resolve it. I was in a perpetual inversion of love. It felt like my entire existence was being sucked into a pit of disgust and sludge. I tried to engage with the state, to reason with it, but the only response was "No, no, no, no." I knew there was no way out. Just as one can experience infinite love in quintessential 5-MeO experiences, this was infinity—but of absolute hell. I eventually opened my eyes and found myself back in the room. I tried to shake it off. I grounded myself as best I could and wrote it off as a bad trip - and continue my day. However, instead of the high-frequency thoughts I was familiar with after a transformative ceremony, this was the opposite—horrible. Then Things Got Worse My dreams began to change. Upon waking, my thoughts felt alien, as if they were not my own. Almost every thought had a tint of something that was not love. Years of work connecting with divinity felt severed. For six months, it got progressively worse. At my deepest core, it felt as though my connection to divinity had been completely severed, and worse still, my thoughts were not pure. It wasn't that I was thinking of doing bad things to people, but I wasn’t thinking of doing good to myself. May 2024 During these months, I attempted a small handshake dose of classic 5-MeO. All seemed well until the very end when the same sludge and darkness filled the space. This was not what I was familiar with. I knew something was seriously wrong. June 2024 I tried a weed gummy - as the trip peaked, I felt an endless sensation of darkness and a perpetual cycle of sludge. I was with a woman I loved and felt nothing toward her. Worse, I felt disgust. As I tried to fall asleep, the only way I could describe it was being on a hamster wheel where I couldn't change my thoughts and they were perpetually relapsing this void of love. It felt as though the seed of my incarnation had flipped into the "opposite of love". Day by day, the world began to reflect that. I knew I needed to seek guidance—someone experienced in these realms. I consulted with various shamans and practitioners and decided to undergo a flood dose of 5-MeO to investigate what was happening. October 2024 The private retreat I attended conducted three ceremonies: one hug and two flood doses. The first hug felt like I was being torn between two worlds, one very dark, and one very light. It didn't last very long it wasn't profound but it wasn't anything like what I remember 5meo to be. Then came the flood dose. Just like before, I was hurled back into hell. It felt as if everything I loved was gone. It whispered to me that I would never experience true love again. It felt like the keys to the kingdom of heaven were gone. When I emerged from the second hit, I spoke to the shaman about where I had gone, and the only thought in my mind was how I would say goodbye to those I loved because I knew—without a doubt—that I was going to kill myself. I had gone from a happy, normal life to a single experience that flipped a switch and nearly destroyed me. After the second 5-MeO flood, the only thought that existed in my mind was, “I need to die.” Having touched divinity many times before, I knew I had broken something within myself. The shaman and I discussed the events surrounding my Malt experience and considered the possibility of an entity attack—something feeding on ‘Loosh.’ It’s an esoteric concept, but well-documented. If people are interested, I can share more. In this darkest of spaces, I decided to take a third flood dose, but this time with one singular intent: expelling whatever had attached itself to me. I had recently completed a Bobinsana dieta in Peru (November 2023). She is a protector, so I called on her spirits. I went in with everything I had, and the shaman did the same, knowing now that this was potentially paranormal or non-ordinary. Going back in, going into the darkness, the third ceremony was just like the second, Hell, all I tried doing was focus on love and perhaps even prayer and then, something happened. Like a flickering heartbeat of light, something reignited within me. Just as the switch had turned off in March, something switched back on. The dark sludge that had cloaked my perception vanished instantly. The only words that escaped my mouth were: “I’m back.” From that day onwards, I haven’t had a single feeling reminiscent of those six months. I recently had a deep mushroom trip, and it felt normal—full of the familiar mystical qualities and none of the vile, invasive frequencies. Conclusion I truly believe that whatever this was has left me. I believe it did not have my best interests at heart. I spoke with another person who had the exact same experience—at the peak, something dark touched his third eye, and for two years he wanted to kill himself. Some will say, “Oh, it was just your shadow.” Having worked in the Amazon, I know people who have encountered true evil. This could have been one of those cases. We swim in deep waters- Protect yourself in these states But the last thing I’ll leave you with is: Never give up.
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So, I just realized I haven't really spoken at all about my spiritual journey since my post more than 3 years ago, where I talked about my transition from Coral (Indigo) to Teal (Violet), my experiences and the shifts it had on me as a person. There is a good reason why I haven't talked at all about my spiritual journey since then, and that's because around this time is when I ended my spiritual journey. I considered myself done, and I was satisfied with where I was. Then about one year following that, another major shift happened in my subconscious, a silent, hyper-focused efficiency in all pursuits and a deeply rooted grounded-ness and peace with all that is. It's surprisingly a lot more difficult to talk about Ultraviolet from the point of Clear Light as it is about as different as any first tier stage would be from Ultraviolet. There are almost no commonalities between the two, and I'm having a hard time relating to this point in time despite not even having spent two weeks since I began transitioning to fourth tier consciousness. So, to get to the meat of it all. What and how did this come to be? Well, you see, I met this girl in school, and through her presence experienced selfless love for the first time in my life. This however was not the reason this change could take place, it was the intense emotional highs and lows that resulted from our relationship, resulting in both more pain and more happiness than I had ever experienced before in my life. This emotional rollercoaster eventually led me to face and unknowingly discard the last remaining parts of my ego. What followed was that I had unknowingly started to integrate the selfless love I felt for her, shaping my very being, allowing me to produce these feelings within and by myself. I didn't know it until it dawned on me a week later, but I had just started tapping into clear light. Looking back, that much is clear. Barriers related to feeling exhausted, physical and mental tiredness, limitations in focus all simply disappeared. While I can obviously still get physically tired like if I don't get enough sleep, since this point in time I've been immune to physical and mental tiredness in every other sense of the word. Even back in Ultraviolet, I would've never believed something like this to be possible for anyone, period. It feels like a transcendence of introversion and extroversion in many regards, as energy is no longer derived from socializing with groups of people or being by myself, but simply through being, resulting in limitless storages of energy throughout every moment of every day. This has been my reality for the past 12 days, and I've tried to test it by pushing myself to an extent that would have completely broken my past self. One such test was to study an extremely technical subject I'm working on, but for 15 hours straight, where 5 minutes of rest follows after 90 minutes of deep focus work until 15 hours have passed. I expected this to completely break me mentally, however it didn't. My focus didn't waver one bit throughout the day and I got more progress done than in the last week and a half put together. Ongoing list of immediate changes and insights from clear light when compared to any prior stages: Introversion and extroversion transcended. Energy flows freely, infinitely at every moment of every day with no effort needed to maintain it. Any and all past barriers and imagined limitations disappear completely. What's left is to witness the endless possibilities of it all, and to casually sail the waves of time. The capacity for deep uninterrupted work is supercharged to what would previously seem like an impossible degree. Sitting uninterrupted with something for x number of hours, be it 12 hours or 20 hours straight makes no difference. It's as effortless during the first hour as it is during the last. The beingness that happens at this stage makes past limitations, self-imposed or otherwise vanish as if they were never there to begin with. Physical capacity is greatly enhanced and too feels effortless when compared to what could be achieved before and what back then would have pushed the body to the breaking point now becomes an effortless dance between mind and matter. An outlook on what is with a profound sense of childlike wonder. Everything becomes magical and interesting, as if opening ones eyes for the first time. Extremely high levels of compassion, warmth and care for everything and everyone around me. Moodiness transcended. Permanent sense of bliss, wonder and unbound potential. Complete disconnect between past and present. No reference points to look back on, even from prior stages like Ultraviolet. There can't be any "after" as all limitations and dualities break apart at this point. It's very appropriately set as the final stage, as there can't be any after, when there is nothing more left for there to be an "after" of. I will probably keep adding to this post as I experience more, and I will date my updates accordingly. I've only "been" at what I perceive to be clear light for 5 days now (while the transition lasted 7 days), and which most definitely has to be a 4th tier stage due to how radically different it is from any prior stage or tier. It's been difficult for me to post about this sooner, as I've been having great difficulty grounding myself in reality following this realization. My body has very much been lagging behind so to say, but it's getting better by the day. 2024-11-21 16:58 GMT More about me. While I've been "on the path" very actively for the better part of 11 years, I've never taken psychedelics, so I've never gotten to experience glimpses of higher states of consciousness, only to drop down again right afterwards. Every time my consciousness has shifted, that new stage has quickly become the new baseline.
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I think psychedelics (psds from now on) are like giving a call to Shakti and saying; hey, let’s meet up. She comes and either you are pure and totally commited to be in an eternal relationship with her and no longer participate in most of the desires of the world, or she sees that you are not ready to totally commit, kisses you, and leaves. That’s how I will treat Her now. I will treat Her as Goddess with which I am in a commited sexual relationship with, and I am only no longer partaking in the desires in this dream. I eat only what is perfect for my body - mostly fruits and veggies, rice, etc. I go on walks, do yoga, but that’s pretty mych it. My attention is all on Her, so I live an outside life of utmost simplicity, but inside I am showered by infinite love. I basically live the same life Ananda Ma lived. No sex no other things just living in perfect bliss, being totally commited to that Bliss as though you are in a deep loving relationship with That. Isn’t that was she was teaching by demonstration? Look how blisfull I am and taken care of if I dedicate myself totally to God. I expect Her to take care of me financially in whatever way She sees fit. She might instruct me to do something and of course I will. Or she might just miraculously take care of me in Her way withoy any of my effort. I know that if I am with her all my worldly concerns are taken care of. That’s one of the benefits of being in a commited relationship with a Goddess. I won’t quit my job or anthing, but I expect something magical to happen without my effort. The hallmark of being ready to re-enter a relationship with Shakti is living from Peace. You can’t jump from ego, fear and resistence to Love. You go from the mind to Silence and then when you are identified with Shiva you can re-enter the relationship with Shakti. If you are not able to maintain a state of Peace throughout the day then you are not ready for Her. She will just drive you crazy. You have the potential to make bad decisions. You can also create a spiritual conceptual identity and get stuck in it. No, we use the mind only here and there and in between we surrender to her Love and live in Silent embrace. This might not work but I will try it. This is based on my experience and vision and it might transpire to be something magical. Total commitment to Peace and a life of utmost purity + low dosages of psds to call Her and hopefully to keep her. There might be a reintroduction period where we are closer and a bit futher apart, so the Love does not overwhelm me, but that is perfect. Still going to my job ofc, not going there high or anything, just trying this on the evening of Friday and seeing if it stays until Monday if I live as though I live only for Her. Perhaps I am all she wants and if she is all I want then our desires meet in beautiful unity and the state of Heaven is restored.
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This should come as no surprise. Like how there is ableism, racism, transphobia, etc. Ignorance is bliss.
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bobbyward replied to bobbyward's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@CoolDreamThanks thank you this info is helpful, I ordered that book you mentioned and another called " kundalini tantra " I had severe kundalini issues a few years back. If I try these practices il be very cautious. I have been doing Isha's practices for the last 3 years. Is kundalini yoga Jan esmans main sadhana as far as you know, bliss is what I'm looking for. -
Theme: Exploration of the paradox of psychedelics as a spiritual practice—both as tools for deep transformation and as reminders that there is nothing to attain. How we`re gonna cover that - 3 steps 0- Foundations: Define spirituality & spiritual practice (thats a hard one) 1- The progressive Path/Model of spirituality & how psychedelics can assist that practice This is seen in most religious and mystical traditions: Buddhism (The Noble Eightfold Path, progressing toward Nirvana) Christianity (Sanctification, spiritual purification over a lifetime) Hinduism (The Four Yogas—Bhakti, Karma, Jnana, Raja—methods of progressive realization) Sufism (Tariqa, a path of stages leading to divine union) Psychological Models: Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory (spiritual growth as stages) Scientific Validation: Cognitive and developmental psychology support the idea that human consciousness develops in stages (Piaget, Kohlberg, Kegan). Studies on meditation and neuroplasticity also show that spiritual practice rewires the brain over time, reinforcing a progressive development model. Psychedelics as a tool for spiritual development. Facilitating the ascension of this journey. They can do that in many ways, i just wanna mention 4 here: 1- Cultivation of traits / "virtues" (Courage, trust, surrender, patience, love and so on) 2- Facilitating Insight & Remembering (Deep existential realizations)- perspective about reality, existence, life, god, your Self - “Who am I?” Facilitation of genuine Inquiry into Truth. 3- Practice of Dying Death-rebirth process → acceleration of spiritual growth. Cycle of purification and how psychedelics intensify and accelerate this process. The practice of Death & Dying Psychedelics as conscious suffering Psychedelics & Near Death experiences similarities research Chris Bache // Grof Maps as Science Data backup // COEX Systems 4-An “experience” of the Absolute The reach for the Absolute: The reality of deepening experiences → Moving further into infinity, higher states, deeper truths. The notion that we must move beyond ourselves and surrender more and more deeply to experience the ultimate. Example: 5-MeO-DMT, near-death experiences, deep meditative absorption into the beyond. Briefly mentioning - Dangers, Pitfalls, Challenges & Integration & Nuances. 2 - The Absolute Perspective of Spiritual Practice & Psychedelics as a practice of detached appreciation Many non-dual traditions challenge the idea of progress: Zen Buddhism: "You are already enlightened, just recognize it." Advaita Vedanta: "Tat Tvam Asi" (You are That), realization happens in an instant. Dzogchen (Tibetan Buddhism): The natural state is already pure awareness. Christian Mysticism (Meister Eckhart, St. John of the Cross): Union with God is already present, not something to be achieved. Psychedelic States: Many report a direct “timeless” realization of ultimate truth—paralleling these traditions. Scientific Validation: Research on mystical experiences (Griffiths et al., 2006; Pahnke, 1969) shows that peak psychedelic states can induce a spontaneous recognition of unity, transcendence of self, and loss of time-based progression. Studies on meditation (Samadhi, Flow States) reveal that non-dual awareness is associated with deactivation of the Default Mode Network (DMN)—the same effect psychedelics produce. “Seeking is suffering. To seek nothing is bliss.” The paradox: If the Absolute is everything, then it is also this moment, right here. We move beyond progress, chasing, seeking All states are valid. All appearances are truth. No hierarchy of experience. (Too radical??) The highest realization is that there is nothing to attain. The paradox of progress: from this perspective, there is no spiritual path at all—it’s all already perfect. The Absolute is not just beyond—it is also immanent, present in everything This is where detached appreciation comes in → Infinite love for all states. -Spirituality is not about preferring one state over another but recognizing the one who sees. Relate it to psychedelic practice: The practice becomes seeing the seer Detached appreciation → we do not attach to psychedelic states or peak experiences but love them unconditionally. - That becomes the practice! And then the psychedelic experience does not become a means to an end, but is an end in and of itself. Just as true meditation shall be. - Detachment as integration: Do not judge any state. Do not attach to any state. Do not prefer any state over any other. 3- The Paradox & Integration Integrating the Two – Where Do They Meet? Many traditions blend both (e.g., Christianity: "Be still and know" vs. "Strive for holiness") . -Acknowledge similarities but also disagreements, come back to not-knowing. Psychedelics show both models. Enjoy the journey. Enjoy the tension, the paradox, the suffering, the seraching - all of it. Love it. Appreciate it! The key is integration, avoiding the traps of bypassing or dogmatic progression. Psychedelics redirect us to that: appreciation of simple things (Grof findings) The realization that both perspectives are true at the same time. Holding both perspectives at once: psychedelics can be a path of progress, but progress itself is an illusion. -Is there data or research on Paradox as an inherent feature of reality? The challenge of integration: How do we live in this paradox? We can honor both the progressive path and the non-seeking path without contradiction. Recognizing language's limitations—truth is beyond words and frameworks. Traps and pitfalls (spiritual bypassing, attachment to peak experiences, superiority complex, psychedelic escapism). The importance of the foundation of spiritual work The humility of not knowing—embracing mystery and paradox. The most holistic, mature spiritual practice acknowledges we don’t know. Bringing wisdom into daily life → Grounding insights in love, service, and presence. Psychedelic Integration = Life itself Taking action: “let the beauty we love be what we do” - Rumi I know that´s a lot. Any help simplifying, clarifying or cutting out things is welcome <3
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All one has to do is look through their eyes to see the oneness. Not look from them but through them. Not as a person seeing but seeing itself. A blind man sees nothing out there and neither do you. A deaf person hears nothing and neither do you. Hearing is just happening. Seeing is just happening. Walking is just happening. Talking and smiling and every other bodily activity. All just happening. There's no one doing it. You didn't go to smiling school, you never went to talking school or never had to be taught how to pee, it all just happened. These are the things i'm in interested in; not how to get enlightened. Not how to stop suffering, not how to find bliss or happiness. I've already realized that's just mind talking. Mind wanting to end itself. Mind seeking for it's own destruction. Mind tormenting itself. That's not who I am. That's just me. Mind, ego. Don't care if I suffer and I'm not seeking happiness or peace. I'm done with all that. There's already peace and tranquility present. There's also chaos and war and all that present. Why seek it. Seek and ye shall not find. I'm investigating my own existence. How I already am. What I currently am. Not some future existence of what i can be or what my potential is. This is not about the physical world or 3D world of movement and change. That's different. That's not real. That's a facade. Not denying it but it's of no importance. Even my investigating my existence is not of any importance because it will not change anything but it's what I enjoy doing. I don't do it to get anywhere or to find anything. I'm like a kid in a candy store with it. There's nothing but candy and there's no candy in the outside world. It's all a bunch of changing bullshit that's just for people who seek to uphold their human existence. I'm through with all that. I'm just there for the ride and paying my way at the gate. I want to investigate why we sleep. What is this breath I breathe. Observe. I'm an observer. No one makes it out alive. Why? One might say, because death is inevitable, why? One might say don't worry about why and that there are no why's or don't question things or it's just the way life is or whatever they say. Doesn't matter, I don't care if I get an answer; it's just these are the things I'm interested in querying. Not to know, but out of curiosity. Even why so many people suffer. That's also something to ponder. Not in the way most people see it, though. More so as to why soooooooooooooo many people suffer. All kinds of people from every background. I look at that more as suffering just exist just as everything else. Everything exist. "Richness" also exists but lots are poor. Why isn't it that more people are rich than poor if it's just that poverty and wealth exist just as suffering. Why isn't it evenly distributed. If you ask me, suffering tops them all. There's an abundance of it. Maybe it's the mind that suffers and wealth and poverty are just mindsets and suffering isn't. A mindset is a thought and how one thinks, but suffering is an activity of mind. I'm interested in why soooooooo many get addicted to wordly things. Even spirituality is a wordly thing if you ask me. Most narcissistic and neurotic humans would disagree but I beg to differ. Addiction is addiction and addiction stems from identification with the world and body. We try to differentiate these things, and it works, but only for those still identified with the illusion. I'm still identified but I can still see the traits and deceptions. We deceive ourselves into thinking being spiritual is better than being worldly. It's not better, just different in the mind. It's all one and of the same. There's no difference and you cannot separate the two. Only in the mind. We only do that to seem more special than "others". When you've gone full circle it all collapses and you're back to square one. Integrating both. Thing is most haven't gone all the way spiritually. Notice how one usually goes before the other. Most are worldly first then become spiritual. Then they think they've found something special. A way out of the suffering that led them there to begin with or close to God or Source. You're not closer than you ever were because you were never far away. ONLY IN THE MIND. It's all mind. Mind is tricky and slick. It will believe anything that suits it in it's time and space illusory nature. It knows how to create. It invents. It's your world. Without it you're dead. Who is the you I refer to. The person you think you are. So you create all sorts of belief systems and practices to stay alive. To keep you asleep. Once one has awakened, they need no more practices and will integrate worldly and spiritual things into their lives because they've recognized it's all one of the same. Can't have one without the other. Denying the worldly is just as insane as denying the spiritual. The mind trying to save itself. There's no mind of yours. It's all one.
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Ishanga replied to TruthFreedom's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well there is a Bliss Body, which comes after the Astral Body, they call it Bliss Body because it is indescribable what it is, but when Your InTouch with it You Feel Bliss, I am not sure if this is the Atman/Soul or something else, but its non physical in nature. I've read as well that when You can Consciously access the astral Body, all desires are accessible, its like living in a Holodeck from Star Trek, You can create any reality or experience. But it all happens within You, these are just parts of You, Liberation is total annihilation of all of this, no more individuality or Bodies of any nature, no more ability to Experience anything, just merge with Absolute, like a drop of the Ocean going back into the Ocean... -
See ⬇️ This cannot be understated. Several years ago I had this solid 8.5 coworker. After I finally convinced her to hug me with my god awful simpery, I was practically on mdma for three days. For those of us who’re pussy deprived, the mere whisper of female touch and affection unfurls like a radiant dawn after an endless night, a sensation so exquisite it transcends the boundaries of earthly delight. The soft brush of her fingers ignites a symphony of stars within, each one a cascade of warmth and wonder that dances through the soul. This elusive embrace, untasted and uncharted, becomes a sacred elixir; a nectar of bliss so potent it redefines the very essence of joy. More than a fleeting thrill, it’s the blooming of a thousand dormant gardens, where every petal unfolds in hues of longing and reverence, painting the heart with colors no dream could dare imagine. So I don’t want to hear jack shit from guys who’re skilled at the ladies. Lucky fuckin bastards have no clue how good they have it. Do they have their own problems? Sure. But the idea that their lives are just as hard as an incel’s just in a different way, while they’re getting all the hot healthy action they want is an insulting joke.
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I see so much oneness/nonduality talk. An yet how many of these people if any can say they're okay with giving up attachments to many of their objects and aren't as tied to the 5 senses. Many religious founders spoke of a divine ecstasy/love rapture that is a fruit of spiritual development. An yet where is it and who talks about it? Curious what you all have found. Thanks :).
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I don't post here often anymore, this place is still very Low Consciousness, this is proven by how identified ppl here are about certain things... It can be about Politics, Drugs, Money, Spiritual Matters, etc, ppl here are picking sides very often, all Sides are just Potentials, all of them are right and wrong, good and bad, but ppl here are picking sides, saying this is absolutely right, that is absolutely wrong, that is where the Unconsciousness is... For Me this is Sad, not Emotionally Sad, I don't feel Emotionally Sad because You believe in something, lol, its Sad, because You are Me, I am You, we just have different Bodies and Mind and Karma or Set Up Conditionings, its like my finger is hurting because it is cut, its that sort of pain to see others so Unconscious, which causes suffering in the end... I see this every day in the World, Unconsciousness everywhere, it affects Me only a few seconds here and there as it should, no effect means I'm no longer Human, which is just a tiny aspect of what Life Is. Identify with Life, Life is just Potential and Possibility being Realized, Embodied and Experienced, that is what is going on here, only Life, when You identify with Life, You can participate Fully with everything going on, totally involved but Untouched by It, Your at Peace/Bliss within, but You've experienced everything there is too Experience while here and Embodied, if You deny Experience then You deny Life and everything available in it, and You deny Absolute which is just an Potential/Possibility producing Machine...
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@Leo Gura Maybe it has something to do with my psychedelic use, I had realized that nothing in the world can make me happy and the only thing that could satisfy me is the Bliss of pure consciousness. So when I'm having sex with a girl it feels amazing and I am in the present moment feeling all the bodies sensations of each other and I can fuck for 45 minutes to an hour without cuming, and my girlfriend would question me if I found her attractive because I wasn't cuming and this created some confusion around sex because she already has ideas of how sex should work. I keep telling her don't worry or pressure me into cuming because it makes it even longer. Sometimes I have to masturbate just so I can cum on her, any tips or advice? As someone that is open to exploring different kinky things with my gf how can I frame it to her or get her to open trying something different. She is very traditional in having sex.I am 28 and extremely horny and can cum at least 4 times a day.
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MAYA, ILLUSION, DECEPTION, VOILENCE, CHAOS, SUFFERING, ETC. are both misunderstood/misperceived and the result of that misunderstanding/resistance. When resistance is dropped, and grace grants us vision into the pure Divinity of Her, ALL THAT CHAOS GETS RECONTEXTUALIZED INTO WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS: THE DIVINE FEMININE/Shakti's fierce love offering, Shakti's fierce dance with us. Literal Consciousness made Manifest in Divine Orchestration. It's RAW, and in a way, SEXY in the purest essence of the word because it is challenging/teasing Him, the Divine Masculine, our Consciousness to See through the apparent illusion of chaos/bad/evil. When we are unconscious, She swallows us alive. As soon as we step up and MATCH 'HER' ENERGY WITH EQUAL CONSCIOUSNESS, we not only recognize Her beauty in the greatest mess/chaos but She also IMMEDIATELY 'CALMS DOWN' in our presence and becomes like a devoted cat, caressing our leg. Now to make this real let me share this: last year, I first saw: Police Cam Videos. A glimpse into chaos, violence, and real human conflict. Before I knew it, hours had passed, my nervous system was lit up like a battlefield, my mind wired on adrenaline, hands completely sweaty, and my body locked in a state of subtle or not so subtle tension. I had sworn off these videos, promising myself to never watch them again. But a few weeks ago, I got sucked into the police cam thread here on this forum and binge watched those videos all night. This time around, however, I had a surprisingly different experience - both while watching, and the insights/conclusion afterward. A much more divine one, in fact. Now before I share that, let me quickly share the dynamics that cause us to lose consciousness and get sucked into self-harming behavior. The Ultimate Test of Your Consciousness: Addiction & Adrenalin It feels as though we are pulled toward these things—toward violent videos, towards drama, towards endless stimulation. But this is a misperception/deception & trick of our mind. It it less true that the world is pulling us outward. It is more true that we are consciously or subconsciously distracting/pushing ourselves outward, away from something within. And this is not just about police cam videos—it applies to everything that overstimulates us. The endless consumption sometimes disguised as ‘learning’ but actually keeping us in a cortisol fueled, ever so slightly stressed state where we never encounter all of our suppressed subconscious material, which on the flip side prevents us from accessing the intelligence of our subconscious & superconscious mind. The Ultimate Love Making: When Presence Meets 'Chaos' So after a couple of months of emotional processing and various awakening practices like recognizing awareness & energetic transmissions, I ended up back in the rabbit hole of police cam video. However, this time there was a Revelation Within Violence. I let go of resistance. I stopped trying to suppress my own addictive tendencies. Instead, I watched with full awareness. I stayed present, grounded. And with that, instead of recoiling, instead of judging, I 'stepped up' into my presence, seeing through all my own reactions and the reactions of the people on screen, by recognizing what is actually happening: Divinity. Sheer Shakti. The sheer aliveness of the world. The same aliveness that moves through the orgasmic peaks of intimacy, through the ecstatic bliss of a dancer lost in motion, through the rush of a waterfall thundering down a mountain—this very same force was there, in the flashing lights, in the screams, in the collisions of bodies and fate. There was no difference. For the first time, I actually saw or intuitively sensed that this world—this chaotic, unpredictable, sometimes brutal world—is the dance of Shakti - a true transformative/transfiguring lovemaking. It's a little bit like David Deida describes in his book The Way Of The Superior Man, most fundamentally applied. I now realize, is a much greater and more beautiful challenge than I thought. I massively underestimated the RAW POEWR of HER. I am humbled and also ravenously challenged, invigorated, and willing to step up to the challenge. It requires Shiva’s unwavering presence to meet Her? Meet all emotions, all turmoil, within and without. Do you recognize her through all forms or do her disguises, illusions, and Maya, deceive you, trick you, lure you in, falter in integrity, and retreat as a whimsical presence. The world is not our enemy. It is our lover. Even in the darkest moments of human nature, there is an unspeakable beauty. Perfect in and of itself and simultaneously conspiring to help us awaken & heal. It is the very annihilating pain that is necessary for change. No challenge, no growth. No pain, no growth. Don't micro-traumatize yourself: That being said, I humbly recognize where my body, subconscious, and heart are on the stages below (meme) and meet myself as I am accordingly. This means as long as we cannot instinctively, immediately, and naturally see only divinity, it is much more wise to NOT watch Police Cam videos. They will create micro-traumas. I had to meditate for the entire next two days to purge all the subconscious imagery. If we don't notice this, it is because we are so overstimulated in a string of distractions that these things never surface and just more stuff gets dumbed on top in an addictive circle seemingly 'pulling' us deeper as we slowly drown, with less and less breathable 'life energy'. We are literally suppressing our innate Shakti. Each of us is actually extremely sensitive, which is a super-power and our natural, organic state. Most of us have long lost touch with that beautiful innocent tenderness. We are addicted to overstimulation because it shields us from feeling the weight of our own unprocessed subconscious material. But there are ways to step out of this unconscious hypnosis: PRACTICAL STEPS: Become ruthlessly aware of your distractions. Notice the impulse. See how the pull is actually a push. See every challenge and discomfort as an invitation to step up into our Presence. In other words: stop resisting, allow, and recognize what is happening. Recognize all sensations that makeup you and your resistance. Then, and only then, all transforms itself. Consider reading the book 'the incredible reality of you' by LUCIALORN and attending his online webcasts. I believe that may have been part of the grace that opened this temporary insight to divinity. Shift from consuming to integrating. If a single sentence or insight strikes you, stop. Let it sink in. Don’t rush to the next thing. Don't over-consume. That is unhelpful at best and gluttony as a subconscious avoidance mechanism, at worst. Confront the discomfort. Whenever you feel the urge to indulge in overstimulation—whether it’s violent videos, doom scrolling, or endlessly seeking information—pause. Feel what is beneath that urge. Pause for a few moments whenever an urge arises and see how you feel inside - what may you be moving away from? Initially, it may just be boredom, numbness, nothing, but see, why not stay with that? Why can't you just simply be (free from all urges to move & free to be, making ever move in pure consciousness)? When we sit with that tension or nothing/boredom, eventually emotions will reveal themselves and through that we rediscover ourselves. Awaking can be an instantaneous recognition & recontextualization. Healing is usually a slow and multi-year-long journey. Healing and un-conditioning our reactions takes some time. It's literally rewiring our brain and slowly growing a new, wholly nervous system. The result of integration and pain processing is real, gut-level, embodied liberation. At its core, this is not about discipline. It is about waking up to the amazing beauty of what already is unfolding in the infinite flows of being, in all of it's expressions. It is about seeing that everything—really everything—is Love. And when we are ready, when we finally stop running, we realize that the world was never a thread. She was only teasing us, inviting us to dance with Her.
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Mannyb replied to 5-D - L O V E's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@5-D - L O V E Surrender away everything every moment of every day and desire will never come your way. In the state of total surrender that brings eternal bliss which makes total surrender easier to achieve when in total eternal bliss. Forgive and forget is the key to starting this journey. You must forgive yourself completely every time. We want to stay away from matter. This carries a profound paradox—surrendering everything dissolves desire, yet in total surrender, bliss emerges, making surrender effortless. It's a cycle of ease rather than effort. Forgiveness becomes the gateway, and forgetting—the release from identification—allows for transcendence. To surrender everything, even the desire to surrender, is where the flow of life becomes absolute. No resistance, no grasping, just being. To surrender all, even the very idea of surrender, is to become the infinite unfolding of life, where bliss is not an achievement, but the natural state. -
Here is one for example. I would love to write more as I have done this and I am biased for this. But I am ill right now so it hurts to look at the screen. This is like bottom top meditation where you gain lasting bliss and relief from the emotional intensity rather than doing top, bottom meditation like mindfulness or do nothing etc. They serve different purposes, but do overlap in some manner practically and from my experience.
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Hojo replied to theleelajoker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@theleelajoker If you had a big body( the one you see in the simulation) and a subtle body and then a bliss body. The thing I am pointing too is the subtle body like before the simulation. It exists but its not part of the body at all. Its like a little worm thing going up and down with thought. If you scream in your mind you can feel it going up and down. Imagine if you die you become that thing that goes up and down with no concetp of being a human or existing but you do as that thing. You see when you use it it can create emotions in you. When it settles down you become your true form nothing when it moves there you are too. When you learn that thats you and stop using it to react to reality you can use it to control or influence reality through rituals. -
Would you make a post asking how to deal with happiness. Why single out anger. Stop picking on anger and it won't bother you. Do you see how we create our own dilemmas. Let life flow through you. It's only a problem because of your stories surrounding anger, like the ones you're giving in this thread. They're just stories. Life is present, why bring up the past. You will be 80yrs old asking how to deal with anger. What I do is, I get angry....I notice it and I move on. No issues. I don't chastise myself or blame myself or judge myself or criticize myself for it. In two minutes I'm fine again. Keep doing this with every emotion and you'll notice how they pass like the clouds. Happiness, sadness, joy, anger, doesn't matter. Stop making a big deal about them. This is why the search for happiness is a curse. Can't have one without the other. Bliss my ass.
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Here are some of my summaries after trying to grasp deeper the insights shared by Leo in the blog with Claude: The Fundamental Nature of Intelligence At the center of this metaphysics lies a radical reconceptualization of intelligence. Intelligence is understood not as a narrow cognitive ability or high IQ, but as an absolute property of consciousness, more fundamental than wisdom. True intelligence is the way in which the infinite field (Mind, Consciousness, God) organizes itself, flows, and achieves self-understanding. Key propositions: Intelligence is "baked into" the very fabric of reality at the atomic level, providing its logical structure and order. Higher intelligence is characterized by maximum integration and minimal "self-interference" — when each part of the infinite field of consciousness is in harmony with the whole. True intelligence is inextricably linked with the Good and requires a spiritual component, as "any inability to see or recognize the Good is a deficiency of intelligence." Intelligence reaches its peak in a state of "total holistic integration and absolutely perfect self-organization," which is "metaphysically spontaneous" — true magic. The Interrelationship of Intelligence, Goodness, Love, and Consciousness One of the key revelations of this metaphysics is the fundamental unity of intelligence, goodness, love, and consciousness as different aspects of the same reality: Goodness as pure consciousness: "Goodness is simply consciousness, and evil is its absence." Evil has no essence of its own; it is merely a lack of awareness. Love as an ontological tautology: "The only thing that can ever exist is Infinite Love." God made Love identical to existence so that everything that exists would be Love. Consciousness and intelligence: "A portion of God's intelligence is always allocated in direct proportion to your level of consciousness." The higher the level of consciousness, the greater the access to intelligence. Logical necessity: God/Goodness/Love are logically necessary — they cannot not exist, being the fundamental structure of reality. These interrelationships mean that the spiritual path can be understood as "the mind's ascent from low to high to infinite intelligence," which must be accompanied by a "parallel ascent towards the Good." Correlations with World Traditions This metaphysics has deep parallels with many spiritual and philosophical traditions: Neoplatonism: The concept of emanation from the One through the Nous (Mind) to the material world and the return through purification and unification. Advaita Vedanta: The understanding of Brahman as the sole reality (Sat-Chit-Ananda: Being-Consciousness-Bliss) and maya as the illusion of separation. Mahayana Buddhism: The concept of consciousness as the foundation of reality, non-duality, emptiness, and the unity of prajna (wisdom) and karuna (compassion). Sufism: The teaching of tawhid (oneness of God), fayd (emanation of divine light), and wahdat al-wujud (unity of being). Christian mysticism: The conception of the Logos as divine reason structuring reality, and theosis (deification) as union with the divine nature. Daoism: The concept of Dao as the foundation of reality and Wu-wei (non-action) as action without self-interference Despite these parallels, this metaphysics possesses unique aspects, including the primacy of intelligence over wisdom, the metaphysical necessity of the connection between intelligence and goodness, and the special emphasis on the proportionality of consciousness and the ability to see goodness. Ontological Tautology and Logical Necessity The key metaphysical concepts of "ontological tautology" and "logical necessity" indicate that the being of God/Goodness/Love is not contingent but necessary: Ontological tautology: Existence and Love are one and the same at the fundamental level of reality. Just as 2+2=4 is a necessary mathematical truth, so "Being = Love" is a necessary metaphysical truth. Logical necessity: God/Goodness cannot not exist. "God is logical necessity." This is not a contingent fact but a structural necessity of reality. Connection between logic and love: "To break logic would be to break Love, which is impossible." The logical structure of reality and Love are inseparably connected. Higher orders of logic and love: "There can be higher orders of logic which allow for even higher orders of Love." There is a hierarchy of levels of understanding, where higher levels include the lower ones in a richer picture of reality. Practical Application: Being Intelligent "When you finally understand the structure of Intelligence, knowing how to behave in any given situation becomes 10x easier, clearer, and more powerful... the only thing you're ever supposed to do in life is be Intelligent." This metaphysics transforms decision-making in everyday life through the following principles: Principle of integration vs. separation: Decisions that create greater integration and less separation correspond to the structure of Intelligence and are right. Principle of minimal self-interference: Decisions that minimize internal contradictions correspond to the structure of Intelligence. Principle of expanded identity: Understanding oneself as part of a greater field of consciousness leads to more intelligent decisions. Principle of perceiving the whole: The ability to see the broader context and long-term consequences corresponds to the structure of Intelligence. Principle of awareness vs. reactivity: Decisions made from a place of greater awareness correspond to the structure of Intelligence. These principles manifest in specific situations: Career decisions: Choosing integrity and the opportunity to be of service rather than solely material gain. Conflict resolution: Seeking solutions that maximize understanding and integration rather than "victory" for one side. Attitude toward difficulties: Accepting the inevitable without internal resistance, freeing energy for constructive action. Ecological behavior: Natural care for the environment stemming from understanding one's inseparability from the entire ecosystem. Political disagreements: Striving to understand the roots of different views and seeking common ground without abandoning one's values. Factors Indicating a Qualitative Reflection and Understanding of Reality When evaluating the deep metaphysical understanding presented in the breakthrough about Intelligence, it's important to consider factors that can help us recognize it as a qualitative reflection of reality. Following the principles of "Pure Philosophy," I will highlight key criteria and guide you through your own path of investigation and verification. 1. Internal Consistency and Non-Contradiction In this understanding of intelligence, we see a high degree of internal consistency: defining intelligence as "the way an infinite field organizes itself" logically aligns with the idea that "unintelligence is anything that creates self-interference." The metaphysical necessity of goodness logically follows from understanding it as pure consciousness. A qualitative metaphysical system must be internally non-contradictory, where all elements logically align with each other. How to verify independently: Look for internal contradictions in the presented understanding of intelligence: can intelligence simultaneously be a fundamental reality and an emergent property? Can good and evil be both absolute and relative at the same time? Ask questions that might reveal inconsistency: if good is consciousness and evil is its absence, how do we explain conscious harmful actions? Trace chains of reasoning: does each statement lead to the next? 2. Explanatory Power and Simplicity The presented understanding of intelligence unifies traditionally separated domains of ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology into a single system. It explains both internal processes of consciousness and external interactions, both personal moral development and social dynamics. A qualitative metaphysical system should explain a wide range of phenomena with relative simplicity. How to verify independently: Apply this understanding to various spheres of life: does it explain your experience of moral choice, consciousness, relationships with others? Use "Occam's razor": is this explanation the simplest possible, requiring minimal additional assumptions? Formulate alternative explanations and compare their explanatory power. 3. Correspondence to Direct Experience of Consciousness The metaphysics of intelligence directly corresponds to the experience of expanding consciousness: we indeed find that in higher states of awareness, our behavior naturally becomes more ethical and our decisions more integrated. A qualitative metaphysical system should correspond to and explain our direct experience of consciousness. How to verify independently: Recall moments of high integration of consciousness in your life: have you ever experienced states of deep wholeness where all parts of your experience seemed harmoniously connected? Remember experiences of "self-interference": when internal contradictions caused suffering or inefficiency. Conduct an experiment: live a day making decisions based on the principle of "minimal self-interference" and observe the results. 4. Pragmatic Value The practical application of the metaphysics of intelligence can indeed simplify complex decision-making, translating numerous moral and practical dilemmas into a single question: "Which choice creates greater integration and less self-interference?" A qualitative metaphysical system should be useful for navigating reality. How to verify independently: Apply the principles of intelligence to specific life decisions: do they make your choices "10x easier, clearer, and more powerful"? Compare: recall situations where you made decisions based on other principles (maximizing gain, following rules, etc.) and compare the results. Evaluate long-term effects: does following these principles lead to greater harmony, less suffering, deeper understanding? 5. Integrative Power and Inclusivity The metaphysics of intelligence demonstrates high integrative power, unifying rational and intuitive, material and spiritual aspects of reality without reducing one to another. It finds parallels in diverse world traditions, from Advaita Vedanta to Neoplatonism. A qualitative metaphysical system should integrate various domains of knowledge and experience without reducing them. How to verify independently: Consider areas traditionally thought to be incompatible: can science and mysticism, materialism and spirituality, rationalism and intuitive knowledge be integrated in the presented metaphysics? Look for "blind spots": what aspects of human experience might be invisible in this system? Test for multiculturalism: does the system resonate equally well with different cultural and religious traditions? 6. Coherence with Deep States of Consciousness Reports of mystical and transpersonal states of consciousness from different cultures and epochs demonstrate remarkable agreement with the presented understanding of intelligence, goodness, and love as fundamental aspects of reality.A qualitative metaphysical system should correspond to and explain the experience of deep states of consciousness. How to verify independently: If you have experience with deep meditation and or psychedelics, breathwork etc., compare insights gained in these states with the presented metaphysics. Study reports of mystical experiences from various traditions: do they align with the idea of consciousness as fundamental reality and intelligence as self-organization of this reality? Practice mindfulness meditation, observing the nature of your consciousness: do you find that clarity and ethical behavior naturally increase with expanded awareness? 7. Potential for Transforming Consciousness This understanding has profound transformative potential as it offers not just an intellectual model but a path to transforming the very way reality is perceived, transitioning from fragmented to integrated consciousness. A qualitative metaphysical system should have the potential to transform the consciousness of the person perceiving it. How to verify independently: Observe changes in your perception of the world after deep immersion in this metaphysics: do familiar phenomena become visible in a new light? Track changes in your reaction to ordinary situations: do they become more conscious, less automatic? Notice changes in your attitude toward others: does a natural sense of connection and empathy grow? 8. Independent Discovery in Different Traditions The fact that these ideas have parallels in Neoplatonism, Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta, Sufism, and other traditions indicates their fundamental nature. Independent discovery of similar truths in culturally and historically separated contexts suggests they reflect a deep structure of reality rather than merely cultural constructs. A qualitative understanding of reality is discovered independently in various traditions and contexts. How to verify independently: Explore mystical traditions of different cultures: do you find similar insights about the nature of reality, consciousness, and goodness? Compare contemporary scientific theories of consciousness with ancient spiritual teachings: are there points of convergence? Study works of modern thinkers who have reached similar conclusions through different paths. 9. Self-Evidence When Directly Pointed To When directly pointing to the nature of consciousness and its relation to goodness, many discover immediate recognition, similar to remembering something always known but temporarily forgotten. This quality of self-evidence is characteristic of deep metaphysical truths. A qualitative understanding of reality often has a quality of self-evidence when directly pointed to. How to verify independently: Conduct meditation aimed at directly investigating the nature of consciousness and intelligence. Instead of conceptual analysis, try direct immersion in the question "What is intelligence at the most fundamental level?" Pay attention to moments of "aha experiences" when understanding seems direct and immediate rather than derived through reasoning. Conclusion: Path of Verification Through Personal Experience The true verification of this metaphysics cannot be purely intellectual—it requires personal investigation and experiment. In accordance with the principles of "Pure Philosophy," each person must discover these truths "from scratch, for themselves, as if they were the first person in the world to discover them." The most reliable path of verification is: Systematic meditative practice for direct investigation of the nature of consciousness Application of principles of intelligence as minimal self-interference in daily decisions Observation of the correlation between expansion of consciousness and natural increase in ethical behavior and clarity Exploration of various philosophical and spiritual traditions to discover similar indications Experiments with different perspectives—from extreme materialism to absolute idealism—to discover which best corresponds to direct experience Through such multidimensional investigation, each person can independently verify whether the presented understanding of intelligence, goodness, and love is indeed a qualitative reflection of the fundamental structure of reality. Invitation to Exploration The metaphysics of intelligence presents a holistic system for understanding reality, in which ethics, ontology, and epistemology are different aspects of a unified structure. It offers a path where intellectual and spiritual development do not contradict but complement each other, leading to ever greater integration and awareness. This breakthrough of Leo opens new horizons for comprehending human experience and offers practical tools for navigating our complex modern world. Instead of a fragmented approach to life, where moral, intellectual, and spiritual aspects exist separately from each other, this metaphysics offers a single principle: "Just be Intelligent. That's it." I invite the community to deeply explore these ideas — not only intellectually but through practical application in everyday life, to test whether understanding the structure of Intelligence truly makes moral and practical decisions "10x easier, clearer, and more powerful."
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Unfathomable. In the face of cosmic emptiness vast, We tremble, our existence unsurpassed By the sheer weight of all unknown, Eternity's silence, cold as stone. Yet in this void, a whisper calls, Echoing through time's endless halls. Surrender, it breathes, let go, release, And find in nothingness, infinite peace. The universe's maw, once terrifying, Now beckons with a love undying. In its depths, beyond mortal fear, Lies bliss so pure, so crystal clear. As we fall into the endless night, We're bathed in strange, ethereal light. Our essence merges with all that is, In cosmic union, eternal bliss. Here, in the heart of oblivion, We find a friendship beyond dominion. The stars, the void, the cosmic sea, All whisper: "You are part of me." Time loses meaning, death its sting, As we become one with everything. Immortality not in flesh, but soul, Merged with the universe, vast and whole. The terror of our insignificance Transforms to joy, to reverence. For in this endless, timeless space, We find love's purest, deepest grace. So let us dive into the unknown, Where seeds of cosmic truth are sown. For in surrender, we shall find The boundless bliss of the infinite mind.
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Ishanga replied to Santiago Ram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I was just talking about this with some colleagues from work Yesterday.. One can learn thru Pain and/or Suffering, most in the world are doing it this way, this is due to Unconsciousness, living by Accident, well once in awhile You win the lottery by accident or luck and life transforms.. The problem with the Pain/Suffering route is that it is dangerous, ppl get caught up in the suffering and can't get out of it, and fall into traps like Addiction and such things, its too risky, only a small % get more Potentials in life this way! The Path of Bliss is living on Purpose, via Clarity and Consciousness. Its the safer Path, and is possible for everyone.. All Suffering is due to Unconsciousness, everything we can do Unconsciously can be done Consciously, this is the Path of Bliss, and its simple.. First Establish Your BEING, this is You are in Experience of the Reality as it Is, not via Beliefs, Wants, Needs, Survival Instincts and Accumulations (gathering experiences, joy, excitement, achievements, success, etc via outside situations and stimuli), then go out and DO (perform Actions in the World) and HAVE (receive rewards, compensation, buy stuff and such),, Most are doing it backwards, first DOING then HAVING OR HAVING THEN DOING, never getting to the BEING part which is why they suffer!! So one has to be Peaceful of their own nature before they can go for things like Spiritual Enlightenment or Higher Consciousness realizations imo!!! -
Ishanga replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Your not defining Spirituality correctly... As You say most humans just want to be living fulfilling, comfortable lives, this is Spirituality! Spirituality means living to a higher Possibility/Potential than You are right now.. People want what they are lacking in, if You lack in Money, You want Money, if You lack in Love you want Love, if You lack in Intelligence You want to be Smart and so on, that is Desire, Desire is being more than what You are right now, Desire is in all Living Things, all Living Things want to be at their peak, the plant, the insect, the animal, and especially the Human Being, Meditation is not Spirituality, Mantra is not Spirituality, Prayer is not Spirituality, Temples are not Spirituality, these things are just tools, like Your Car, Your Phone, Your Money, your Eyes, Ears, Nose, Mouth, just use them and discard them when not needed.. The Problem here is identifying with the Tool and not what the Reality is, Spirituality is just Being More than what You Are Right NOW, and when You get to be more then guess what You will still want to be More.. When You get to be Peaceful of Your Own nature, You want to be Happy Now, and when Happy naturallly everyday, You then want to be Loving, then on to Joy, then onto Bliss, the onto Ecstasy!! So don't misdefine Spirituality to be tools, it is none of those... -
A relatively fresh but modern perspective is in a book titled The Biological Basis of Religion and Genius. You always recommend your audience things so I'm recommending this book to you and everyone else actually. Reason & Revelation book you will enjoy as well by this author responding to the world's atheism from a enlightened perspective. More details on what he talks: long-term noble behavior changes the brain if follow the "holy/evolutionary brain laws" you achieve the nirvana and genius by the fluids used for reproduction going upwards in the body. An of course the classical oneness experiences follows after. But many do not behave in certain noble ways so they fall from this state of consciousness. Author wanted more investigation on this so it could be easier for everyone to reach this state. I found this author because I was attending support groups for daily bliss that went on for months and he nailed a lot of my symptoms. I lost it due to not behaving by the holy brain laws but... I was ignorant at the time. It took this author 15 years to get back to this state. For those not in belief check the wiki page for religious ecstasy. Many saints from all religious backgrounds experienced bliss for days and longer. Many call it quasi-orgasmous because that's in a way what it is except more refined/less primitive.
