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LfcCharlie4 replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Here's an honest critique @Leo Gura Before I want to say thank you for the many awesome teachings you provide, especially on PD and Politics I found them the most useful, and for this forum which is another great thing you have developed, so for all the ways you helped I'd like to say thanks, and this isn't to shit on you but is based on my own opinions, members of the forum I talk to regularly and then some people outside this forum who know of you and watch you. These are based on your spiritual teachings. 1) You teach based on insights it seems- Been said already, so won't go into much detail, the embodiment of your trips leaves much to be desired, and that is the main 'issue' I have with psyches, you've clearly had incredible insights, but It doesn't come across that you live these in your day to day life at all, and I just want to point out these amazing insights from Psyches are great, but it's the 'permanent' changes that really have improved my life 1000 fold, from my minimal Psyche experience they were great and gave some insights, but nothing compares to the immovable silence I feel now. 2) Risk of promoting Psychedelics to those under <25 - I'm not demonizing psyches, of course they can be awesome, but the way you talk about them, you make out as if everyone who's 'pursuing' enlightenment needs them, which is far from the case, you're probably one of the only, if not the only, teacher pushing them and promoting them so heavily, these are still drugs. I saw someone on here saying how they had to go to rehab due to psychedelic abuse and was really struggling in life, you have to remember a lot of people that come on here are going to be going through emotional/ mental issues, so immediately recommending someone to use psychedelics is risky. I personally know someone who ended up in a mental hospital on 2 separate occasions after an Acid trip, as after he couldn't stop seeing his Dad, who has passed away, so for people doing them please be careful, especially if you're under 25 as our brains aren't fully developed. Also, many people on here are not ready for the level of responsibility that comes with using those sorts of drug, while you can be responsible Leo it doesn't mean the kids and teenagers and young adults who follow you can, and many will simply copy you due to the position they are in, I was so close to doing just that, but am beyond glad I pursued a different path which for me has worked amazingly. Again, not shitting on Psyches but everyone here makes out they're the only/ best thing on this path, which simply isn't the case. For some maybe but not all, think about all the great masters and recent masters, how many used Psyches? Food for thought. If they work for you, great I'm glad 3) Concepts Concepts Concepts - I would love to know how many people you've directly awakened Leo, I suspect it's not very many, as your videos on spiritual topics tend to be hours upon hours of concepts, and yes I understand the need for theoretical foundations and understandings, especially for beginners. But, there becomes a time when all concepts must be burned, even the concept of enlightenment. Theoretical knowledge is nothing compared to actually living this teaching and surrendering yourself to the now truly. Words are merely pointers, and Silence is the highest teaching of all, Ramana only 'invented' self-inquiry for those who weren't ready for silent transmissions. Your mind will NEVER understand the absolute, it cannot, as anything is spoken about the absolute is 100% false, you cannot utter a word about it that is true. Sometimes, it feels as if you use your videos as a way to get your social needs met, I understand it's easy to do, but have you potentially neglected your human needs due to this work, you mention you don't work out anymore also, remember we are Human (cue a non-dual backlash here), and these are important things to take care of in our lives, if anything true self-realization makes you more human and more yourself than ever before. And, like I said, concepts and words are great to help, but the true teaching is merely silence and if you're still trying to understand it with your mind, you'll be chasing your tail forever, I know as I was doing just that for almost 2 years and if anything I only got further and further away. 4) Teaching without being truly awakened/ self-realized- This one I feel for you on Leo. You positioned yourself as a teacher so early in your journey, then let's be real you were as confused as everyone else, the burden of having 100's if not 1000's of people waiting for your every word on this topic must be very draining, when you yourself were only at the start of your journey back in 2016 I think it was. This can create a huge issue for you and your followers. Even now, it's hard to say you're truly self-realized, if you think I'm being critical, watch/ read some of the great recent masters such as Ramana/ Nisgardatta or for more western feels Rupert Spira/ Francis Lucille/ Adyashanti who are all clearly fully self-realized. I am biased to my own teachers who are also amazing, but I won't mention as I feel that would be slightly biased lol. There are clear differences in the teachings, clear as day, which is why I say there are much better teachers out there for this work in my opinion. But, Leo your perseverance and determination in this work are admirable! 5) If you don't agree with Leo good luck lasting on this forum- A couple people you've gradually wormed out of here, I understand it's your school and you can promote what you believe in but it seems slightly unfair to ban people who were helping people on here, but it's your forum so I guess that is fair. I think I'll stop there. Like I said I have a lot to thank you for Leo, especially those Spiral Dynamics and Conscious Politics series, among many other great videos you have done. But, like anyone you aren't perfect and I certainly am not either, neither are my teachers etc etc. But, if I'm honest I feel there are quite simply 'better' (frowned upon word in this community) 'spiritual teachers' (In reality there's nothing to teach because THIS IS IT) out there who will help awaken people, let's say more efficiently. Maybe, that's not the best term but I hope people get what I mean, if someone was to ask me for teacher recommendations regarding Awakening I know who I'd send them to, but if they were to ask for Personal Development, Politics foundations or even Life Purpose advice Actualized.org would certainly be a recommendation. I hope this doesn't result in a ban or whatever and I hope we can still have some great discussions on here Leo, I know you disagree with a lot of things I've said too, and I still look forward to the Capitalism vs Socialism video when it comes out Have an awesome day everyone. -
Nak Khid replied to Nak Khid's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
you kidding me? Leo has numerous videos defining enlightenment including the ones I posted and also one called "How To Become Enlightened - The Exact Step By Step Process Revealed!" and a pinned thread called Leo's Practical Guide To Enlightenment Let's not get bogged down in definitions. Was Osho a highly awakened person and can a highly awaken person maintain that they are not God and a second question, would a highly awakened person parade around multiple Rolls Royces or similar materilaistic displays? -
Yes, if your truely love him wouldn't you love him even if he is awakened? Let go of control and surrender to love. Or just tell him how you feel, just love, just be. Things might change once he is fully awakened. You can also awaken yourself and then you will understand what to do and why everything is the way it is. Love only gets deeper and stronger after awakening. You might also want to look into Tantra Yoga.
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Nak Khid replied to Nak Khid's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What is the difference in using the term "fully awakened" and "enlightened" ? Many would say that is synonymous. And isn't evil one of the lowest ego states? Awakened mind or devilry ? -
Dumuzzi replied to Nak Khid's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I try not to use the word "enlightened" because it is highly misleading. For sure, he had a fully awakened Kundalini and he showed all the signs of someone who was at that level, with the crucial distinction that he became evil. He became obsessed with money and fame and used the gifts of the Goddess (Shaktipat) to enrich himself and create a cult of personality around him. Ultimately, this got back to him in the form of Karma and led to his downfall. It is important to note, that just because a person is awakened, does not mean he is good. Just as there are benevolent gods and malevolent ones, awakened humans can also be of all sorts and some turn evil, despite their obvious power. I thought, that the fictional depiction of the Sith Lords and the Dark Side of the Force in Star Wars was an excellent illustration of this principle, when I first saw it. -
Consept replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I would say the criticisms from @electroBeamare fair but also at the sane time not necessarily Leo's fault. I've always thought the idea of enlightenment as presented on the forum is potentially unhealthy and almost anti-enlightnement, as it sets it up as a goal and is taken very seriously, this leads to comments like 'I'm going to get enlightened and then work on a career', as if it's the same as getting a college degree. It's only here where I've heard it discussed in such terms, most good nondual teachers have a fun, I can't believe people take this serious outlook, which is very counter to Leo's. Personally I believe Leo is just not awakened at least not to their extent, I think he's had profound experiences but to me he doesn't embody it in the same way, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, he's still on his journey. If you want nondual teachings there's a ton of teachers who completely embody it, one of my favourites is Paul Hedderman, who often says the subject of non duality doesn't interest him at all, which might sound ridiculous to us but if you were really awakened why would it interest you? I Having said that I think the value of actualized.org is that it breaks down complex and not really talked about topics in a relatively easy way to understand and I can't express how valuable that is, things like the SD series were honestly amazing. The problem is when people take Leo as a guru and not a Gura lol. In that they hang on every word and start making life decisions based on what he says. To be fair he has always said do your own research and have your own sources. The teachings here (and anywhere) are tools and that's it, use them but don't add dogma or any kind of sacredness to them, don't assume Leo is right and work from there, do your own thing. -
erik8lrl replied to ir8221cu's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ego. Not awakened deep enough. -
Lol, you already answered your own question. Just love. Isn't the intimacy that you seek just deep love? You are having an ego backlash. When you are fully awakened, you have the choice to do anything you want. Yes, in high states of consciousness you experience infinite love so completely that there is no need for sexual unification, but you eventually come back to live in the separate self while you are alive, then it becomes a choice to do anything. So it is not true that after awakening he won't feel intimacy anymore. You can love intimately even in higher consciousness. People even use it as a path to awakening. Feel your love for each other, and know that love is all there is.
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LfcCharlie4 replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@How to be wise Yeah they're deep but if your just after Non-Duality teachings I hate to break it to you there's much better teachers out there. I'm not debating Leo's teachings go very deep, but just take a look around here, how many people are actually awakened lol, see a lot of trip reports but not many permanent enlightenment/ awakening/ full self-realization reports. Not shitting on the forum, I think it's a great area for discussion, but Leo simply isn't the only non-duality teacher who goes deep, and there's many better than him imo. I mean the person in your DP is probably a much better place to start. Think of the great masters like Ramana and Nisgardatta and in more modern terms Rupert, Francis Lucille and Ramaji and potentially tens if not hundreds more are better at this. Again, I'm not shitting on Leo, he's incredibly young and has positioned himself as a teacher probably too early before he was even remotely awake, and there's thousands of young people with no clue about this getting incredibly confused, it's a hard situation for him, incredibly hard. But, I don't think it's as simple as 'you don't get these teachings,' plenty of teahcers go just as deep, and have had much more time to truly embody their awakenings and aren't teaching from insight alone. I also strongly disagree with his main recommendation being Psychedelics especially when talking to a very young audience, yes they can give incredible insights but to deny the risks is very naive. Again, I have great respect for Leo and his teachings, certain videos have helped me a lot, but he's far from perfect especially as a 'Spiritual Teacher.' -
roar replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This: 2) The guru is somewhat awakened but still full of egoic impurities, not having finished his development and mastery. Not: 4) The guru is genuinely helping his students but his students take it personally, have an ego-backlash, and project a lot of their own shit on the guru. In this case the guru is totally fine, but the student is just not capable of handling the teachings. The student is in over his head and lashes out at the guru. Actualized.org is in dire need of a serious zen bitch slap. Most of you guys are still kids in this day and age. But the forum is a great resource for studying millennial cult behavior. -
Leo Gura replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It all depends. There are many possibilities: 1) The guru is just an abusive asshole and a fake. 2) The guru is somewhat awakened but still full of egoic impurities, not having finished his development and mastery. 3) The guru genuinely believes he's helping his students. Maybe he is helping, maybe not. This can vary. 4) The guru is genuinely helping his students but his students take it personally, have an ego-backlash, and project a lot of their own shit on the guru. In this case the guru is totally fine, but the student is just not capable of handling the teachings. The student is in over his head and lashes out at the guru. 5) The accusations are exaggerated or entirely false. The student may misunderstand what the guru was doing. 6) There may simply be a misalignment between the guru's style and the student's style. Which could easily be solved by finding a different guru without disparaging the old guru. All the above can happen. Rarely are things black and white. Rarely is a guru a total fake. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I like aspects of Actualized.org, but agree his devout followers basically agree with every word he says. Leo is an awesome PD teacher, his SD and Politics series were great to say the least. Is he a great spiritual teacher? I’m not too sure on that one yet, it’s early in his journey but right now I could suggest much “more helpful” teachers in terms of spiritual growth than Leo. I feel for Leo though, he’s had to teach from day 1 of his journey near enough, and let’s be real he was teaching without actually being awakened, which comes with a huge set of problems. If Actualized.org is your only source or has been your only source of spirituality, I feel really sorry for you, that’s all I’ll say. Again, amazing for PD and conceptual things, that’s Leo’s strong point. This isn’t meant to be me slagging off Leo, I enjoy a lot of his videos and what he’s created is awesome, but from speaking with several people on here, a couple in the Spiritual community etc, and my own direct experience, and even just looking at the “results” you see on here it’s very clear that there’s much, much more effective Spiritual teachings out there. But as I said it’s still really early doors for Actualized.org in terms of spiritual teachings, so it would be unfair to judge overall I feel -
Howdy doo everybody, For those of you that didn't know, about two weeks ago I paid $250 and signed up for one of Fred Davis's 60 minute online Clarity sessions which took place today at 12:00. It started off with him giving me a little background story on himself and his Awakening realization. He talked about how he meditated in jail and how he's been awakened for about 11 years now. He also mentioned how he used a teacher to get full clarity and realization. He mentioned how he was oscillating/going back and forth for a long time until he found a good teacher to help him get clear. After that I gave him about a 6 to 7 minute story on my Awakening realization. He walked me through his typical Clarity session protocol that you can find online and in his book "Awaken NOW"... Although I had heard most of his material already, ..it felt much more real and clear speaking with him about it in person. He quickly identified that it sounded like I had been oscillating back and forth between the false self and Oneness.. which he said he had an issue with early on in his Awakening as well. My biggest sense of clarity however came from when he helped me realize that the false self never woke up and was never real, it was always just Oneness identifying as the human body and tricking itself. It was really interesting because most of the stuff... I was already aware of but it just hadn't sunk in completely.. Apparently that's why it's called a realization and why he calls it the Fredness Clarity session....❤
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@The Awakened Viking the nuts are below ?
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Hahaha! Guess again. You are not going to escape social survival that easily. You already live in a commune. It's called society. It is messy and dirty precisely because that's what social survival looks like. Survival is a dirty business and not even awakened people are above it, assuming they care to survive. Any social arrangement is gonna get complicated very quickly. You have to be willing to play that game. If not, go live in a cabin in the woods, or just an apartment. The closest thing to utopia will be a cabin in the woods, far away from people. Assuming you are conscious enough to handle that.
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This seems so only from a non-awakened state. The content of belief is false, but belief as phenomenon is a part of the unity, it is a manifestation of god.
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LfcCharlie4 replied to jim123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He's talking from an absolute persective as the Self does not judge and allows all, as the Self is literally everything therefore, accepts everything. However, if you open your heart and deepen your love you will not be able to harm others, or will at least minimize this harm. You will become more emotional than ever, for example I teared up at a movie in the UK based on 0 Hour Contracts and how employers are exploiting workers and ruining families and people's lives, you begin to see the injustices in the world more. When you love that deeply, you will merely want to serve and help people, not go out and kill. However, this is a deep facet of awakening, and most may not even talk about love. Charles Manson was considered enlightened by many (Very early stages of no self etc) and look how he acted... Early stage awakened beings can still wreak havoc, however, those who have attained truly deep awakenings are HIGHLY unlikely to act in such ways due to the depth of love they have awakened to, and when you realize EVERYTHING is the Self as are you, you are merely harming yourself, who wants to do that? -
Dumuzzi replied to Matt8800's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Matt8800 Great advice, thanks. I have also been working on building up my own personal power. Not quite sure what to do with it yet. I thought that maybe I should go out and help people, offer healings, energy transmissions, act as a go-between for people and connect them to deities, that sort of thing. Then I realised, this was to the detriment of my own personal development and it put a strain on the relationship between myself and higher beings. What I am starting to realise is that you can't really help others, the best you can do is show them how to help themselves. It is interesting that you should mention Gandhi. I grew up partly in India, but I also lived in the UK for a while. I always felt inspired by him. Apparently, his considerable powers of persuasion and concentration had a lot to do with him being a Sannyasin. He was transmuting his sexual energies to feed his Kundalini and allow him to serve a higher purpose. I am also at that stage, where all of my sexual energies are diverted and transmuted to feed my Kundalini, which awakened about 7 years ago, when it rose all the way to the top. I can now raise my Kundalini any time and keep it in the crown, which i use to interact with higher beings (my preference being ancient Mesopotamian, Buddhist and Hindu deities). I have also used this in the past for healing purposes or to draw a protective shield of fire around people who were harassed by lesser entities. I wonder what role Kundalini plays in your own practice, is there a particular way you utilise the serpent power to achieve your goals? -
A scientific minded person can say: "But the reason that self-love is the core answer to one's problems, that all converge to it, it just because this is the number 1 need for us to survive (if we are alone we might be eaten) and we are programmed to it. The reason that love is what you see after you awakened, it just that you are experienced our brain default status. Therefore, there is nothing "awakening-ly" here, because this is just how our brain is programmed during evolution. Therefore if we give love to the system, people can evolve much faster to higher consciousness stages because we fullfiled it most basic need". I dont like this reductionist attitude, but it can be the whole answer even if we dont like it. What do you think?
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@TRUTHWITHCAPITALT Yes I'm not debating that, however I must admit I do feel that while they give incredible insights many struggle to embody and integrate on their own, many may not even be ready for that level of insight, so one must tread carefully. Personally, I believe working with a teacher 1-1 combined with a transmission is the most effective, as not only are you getting facetime with an awakened being but you get YOUR questions answered about YOUR process, we are all unique and everyone has their own awakening process so that alone can be ridiculously helpful. I am not as experienced with psychedelics so who knows, all I know is in 9 months I feel like a different person altogether and know more about my personality than I ever did before as well.
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if you can spend the money, the Life Purpose Course could give you a direction on where to go next. Without a strong drive in life, you will be like a ship without a captain. Most people on the planet exist in that way jumping from one slave job to another if it offers a slight hint of improvement yet they always end up in the same shithole. Find out what is your calling. Find out why you are here and what is your mission on this planet. How can you help with the suffering of humans, animals and the planet that is being fucked by unconsciousness? This earth needs more awakened people so try to become one, find your direction in life and than give it all you got until you get there. As I said, Leo's Life Purpose Course is a brilliant tool to show you the way. More like a compass than a map. It will show you the direction but you will have to find your way. At least that's what it did for me. And many many other people. Good luck! Regarding your love, long-distance relationship can be a thing for the short term but it will not work for long. You have to consider the pros and cons.Unless you or she are willing to change countries, it will probably not last. But that's just my opinion and I know many who succeeded would contradict. Good luck buddy! You can make a difference just don't settle for anything less than your best.
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Kalki Avatar replied to TDW1995's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@TDW1995 I don't mean doing meditation along with self Inquiry. I mean, to only focus on meditation until you stay in its state the whole day for the complete week. That the time you set apart for meditating and doing the mundane become one. You will be meditating while doing everything. After this happens, then self Inquiry and contemplation is more understandable since the knower will already know it self. By then you will have awakened deeper. But to then add focus by contemplation makes the seer to see itself and awaken even deeper. This is what I mean. Book that teached me true "Meditation: The First and Last Freedom" Osho. If you have not read those 3 books i recommend you check them out for guidance and clarity of obstacles when enquiring. They are like keys to opening the doors that you have not seen. -
SoonHei replied to SoonHei's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is the mortal dream and all the nonsense going on will keep us dreaming longer and longer. The foolishness that´s going on, the fighting, the anger, and all the nonsense going on with every day, keep us bound to this mortal dream. • In other words, when you're sleeping, you're dreaming, and dreams seem real to you, then you awaken. So it is with this world. You're dreaming the mortal dream. You think it's real. You get involved in it, and you're caught up in it, and it gets worse and worse. You just have to realize it's a dream and wake up. And what happens when you wake up? You do not find yourself in a place called heaven, in a strange land. You'll be as you are. When you awaken, you will function as you do now. Except you'll know you're playing a part. That's the only difference.The only difference between you and an awakened person is that you figure the part you're playing is real. And to an awakened person it's a play, a show, a dream. Does an awakened person take a part in the dream? He plays the part that was given to him or her. But he is always happy, always peaceful. For it's all an act on the stage. He's playing a part. So why get angry, why get upset? As you get angry and upset, you know it's a part you are playing, it's a part that you choose. To be an angry person, an upset person, as long as you know the part that you're playing is not real, it's okay to be upset, it doesn't matter. For again you know it's only a part you're playing. But when you think it's real, then you get pulled back into the mire, and you have to start all over again. In other words if you want to become free and liberated in this life, you don't have anything to do with the part, the play, the movie. It’s all good indeed. But when you get caught up in it, then you have to play the part again and again and again. It is called karma and reincarnation. As long as you feel the world is real, people are real, things are real, you have to keep playing your part over and over again. But when you get to the point where you give up, and just focus on reality. You focus on reality when you realize it's all a dream. Then you become free and liberated. So freedom and liberation, it's not something foreign. It’s not far away from you. It’s right where you are, and where you see life. That's all awakening is. So you observe the life. How do you see your life right now? If what you can say about yourself, you feel bad, you feel limited, slighted, upset, then you have to turn around by realizing that you have chosen this world of play. You have chosen this world. It’s your play, and accept it. But do not react to it. It's reaction that causes the problem. We´ll keep on dreaming until we let go. Stop fighting. Become non-attached, then we´ll awaken and be free. Robert Adams, T245: Consciousness Is The Silence -
SoonHei replied to SoonHei's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Someone has asked me to speak about the dream state versus the waking state. So I'll mumble a few words about those things: First of all, to a Jnani, to a Sage, there's no dream state and there's no waking state. None of those exists for the Sage. But for the ajnani there appears to be a dream state and a waking state. And the remarks that are made is this: "The waking state appears to be long. It appears to go on forever. But the dream state ends." And as a matter of fact, you have about eight, nine dreams a night. You usually only remember the last one. So how can I say that the waking state is a dream state also? Well, let's look at it this way. In what you call the dream state, you were born, you go to school, you get older, time passes, you get married, you have a job, you grow older, you're eighty-five years old and you start declining. This is the dream that you're having. Now, if I came into your dream state and I told you, "You're dreaming. You're not really eighty-five years old and you were never born and none of this has ever happened." You would throw rocks at me. And you'd say, "What are you talking about? A century has nearly gone by. I remember when I was a little boy or a little girl and now I'm an old lady or an old man and I've got cancer. And you're telling me, this is a dream?" You wouldn't believe me. I tell you, do not concern yourself with your cancer or your state of eighty-five years old. Do not concern yourself with what's going on in your life. Rather, look within yourself for reality. Find reality and everything will take care of itself. Again you'll throw rocks at me. You don't want to hear anything like this. You say, "I've gone through all kinds of experiences in my life. And you're trying to tell me it's a dream? You can't fool me, this is not a dream, this is real!" Look I could even pinch you and you'll say, "Ow!" But then I say, "Remember, this is a dream pinch! It's all a dream." But you still won’t believe me. Then when I leave, you awaken. You awaken to this dream state. This state, what you call the waking state. And the dream is all gone, it's all finished, like it never existed. And you laugh. You were never born in the dream, you never went to school in the dream. You never got married in the dream. You never became eighty-five years old in the dream. You never had cancer in the dream. You've awakened to this state! Yet you say, "This state is longer." It's longer because you're having the dream, that's all! Remember when I was in your dream, when you were eighty-five years old? To you it was a long dream. You went through many experiences. You went through eighty-five years of experiences and they all seemed very valid to you. Yet it happened in a split second. It happened in a split second, all the years, the experi-ences, the cancer. It happened in a split second and you awake, you awaken to this state. This state is the same thing. This is also a dream state. Not any different than the dream state that you dream at night. Same thing! It's only another dream. And you will only understand this when you awaken! A person is no longer in the dream state, no longer in the waking state, they're in a state of sahaja samadhi between the waking and dream state. There is really no state for a person like that. But to the ajnani, he believes that a Sage is in the waking state like they are. How do you get out of this, the dream business? How do you transcend those both states? Simply by going beyond them, you go beyond the dream state by realizing that when you react to conditions, to person, place or thing, you are perpetuating the dream. You can tell where you are by the way you react to life. If you believe that your body's getting older, that you're a person, that you have problems, you react to life's conditionings, then you're caught up in the dream, just like any dream at night. All kinds of conditions befall you and you believe it's real and you react to them. As long as you react to them you will never get out of it. You feel angry, you feel fear, you believe something is wrong some place. Then you can never get out of the dream. In other words, you'll go from one dream to the next. This is called reincarnation. It's one dream after the other dream. It never ends. You take on body after body after body, always dreaming, always reacting, always believing something is wrong, something is right, something is good, something is bad. And again, as long as you believe this, you'll never get out of it. So the way to get out of it completely is to realize that there is an observer who observes both states. The observer observes both states, the dream state and the so called, waking state. Now remember this is for the ajnani. For the Sage nothing like this exists. For the ajnani, you have to think to yourself, "Who is the observer? Who created this?" in other words, "Who made all this up? Who created the so called dream state and the waking state?" And if you think real carefully, it's our old friend Ishvara, the god of karma. Ishvara has been playing with his leela again. You tell Ishvara to stop playing with his leela and he won't listen. He's feeling these states. Ishvara, for some of you who don't know who he is, he's a personal god that you have created out of your mind. When you believe that you are a body, then you created god in your own image, and we call this god, Ishvara, the god of karma. It is he who dictates all these things, what's going to happen, what karma you're going through, how many lives you're going to live. Now, here's the secret, if you get rid of Ishvara, it'll be finished. You'll be free!You've got to kill Ishvara. Ishvara has to be removed, totally and completely then you'll be totally and completely free! How do you kill Ishvara? By laughing in his face "Who are you? Where do you come from? You can't frighten me any longer. I no longer accept you. You're part of my mind, my imagination. You're part of my false imagination! You do not exist!"Now, I bet some of you here are afraid to do something like this because you think you are insulting god. What kind of god are you insulting? A god that you made up your-self! You created this god. Where else would he come from? Is there a god up in the sky looking down at you throwing lightening bolts, saying, "You're a good boy, you're a bad girl! I'm going to punish you. I'm going to reward you." Do you know some of you really believe this? Yes, while I'm talking to you, some of you really accept this. And you're afraid to get rid of this God. But can't you see this very god is keeping you in bondage! It's this very god that makes you take on new bodies, makes you believe that you're a person, with problems. It is this very god that makes you worry about your body or about your finances, concern yourself with the world situation. And this god laughs while you cry! You're concerned about this. You're concerned about that. You're concerned about everything. Only when the god is removed will you become free It's up to you to remove this god. You've got to do it, nobody can do it but you. This is not blasphemy. Blasphemy is when you're believ-ing that the Self that can hurt you. When you believe in problems, when you believe some-thing is wrong, that's blasphemy!But it is virtually impossible for anything to be wrong for this whole universe the whole world is consciousness. The whole universe is consciousness. It has absolutely noth-ing to do with gods or goddesses, or karma or reincarnation or dreams. These things are part of human thinking. When you realize you're no longer human, they disappear. You must become inhuman. It is up to you to do this.You have to ask yourself the right questions. Many of you are afraid to question yourself. You're afraid that god is watching you and you'll be punished. Yet, some of you actually believe this. But I say to you from direct experience, there's no god at all any-where in the universe that can punish you or wants to punish you or has tried to punish you. If there's a god that exists, he's too busy screwing up the world to think of you! (laughter) What big egos some of us have, we think god is looking at us, judging us. We're so important, we're being judged, by an anthropomorphic God some place up in the sky. We're so important, aren't we? That this mighty god is punishing us personally for being bad little boys and girls. Get rid of all this, once and for all! Remove it from your mind! Empty your mind totally of this kind of thinking.There is only pure awareness, absolute reality and that is you right now! Right this moment! Don't think about it, just be it! Do not attempt to analyze what I'm saying or try to figure it out in any way, just be it! What I'm talking about you can only be. You can't think about it. When you begin to think about it, the truth about the matter disappears. Then you get caught in the body, in a thinking body. Yet, there's no time or space for any thoughts to exist. For time and space themselves do not exist. So where can you think? There's no place for you to think. For the thoughts have to move. And there is no room for thoughts. But what I'm telling you is that you're absolutely free right now. Absolutely liberated right this minute. You are. You are the entire universe right now. You who was never born, can never die. You are the one, right now! This very moment! Feel it! There is nothing else. How wonderful it is to be totally free. Free of praying to gods for your salvation. Free of thinking of a body that needs care or you have lack or limitation some place in your life. Be free of this kind of thinking. I know some of you are saying, "Well, it's okay for him to say that. But the doctor told me I got cancer. I got AIDS. And I have no funds in the bank. My wife or husband left me." Who are you talking about? You're not talking about the real Self, that you are! You're talking about somebody who doesn't exist! You're speaking of a dream person! That's here today and gone tomorrow! You're not speaking of the Self. Wake up! Try to understand what I'm saying to you. You are the god! You are the Brahman. You are the Self. Stop thinking of yourself as a mortal being, once and for all. Stop it! Cut it out! Behave yourself! Wake Up! Know who you are. Change your mind. Lift it up from this nonsensical thinking, and allow the mind to think in the heart. The heart will open up as a rose does with its calyx to the sun. And you will begin to laugh in joy and ecstasy, that you are the one. The one that is beyond time and space The one that is beyond reality, beyond causation. You are that one. Awaken to it, now. Wake up! Don't just sit there like a lump of manure, wake up! Who do you think you are? You are the god, remember this always. The only god that exists! There is no other god but you. Robert Adams, T235: Get Out Of The Dream Business -
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Everything you just said, was said within Oneness. And now everything I'm going to say will happen within Oneness...within YOU...because YOU are it...there is not TWO its only YOU!!❤ There is only Oneness... Nothing happens outside of Oneness.. You are the very Oneness in which you are trying to create a duality out of... you can pull out A ying yang symbol pretzels, popcorn, candy this or that light, dark, polar opposites, anything you desire and it's STILL all happening within Oneness...within THIS.... Even if you tried to create Duality which YOU are...it would still just be happening within Oneness. Absolute Infinity doesn't stand up in the court of enlightenment. There are no purple dragons, flying unicorns and pink fairies floating around somewhere.... that's an illusion in your mind, a figment of your imagination just like Duality. There NEVER was ten thousand waves in the ocean it was only the ocean the whole time...you were just bamboozled.. Back to the drawing board youngster as you get older you will be more stuck in your Illusions so you might as well snap out of the Matrix NOW... You're an intelligent guy but don't get smart with me my deep samadhi experience will stomp your absolute Infinity into the ground every time... A samadhi beats an orgasm every time unknown but it was actually me.... I am the spiral wizard of wizardry...get it.. The yin-yang symbol is meant for the dream. Non-duality is meant for the awakened. If you want to stumble around in the dream go ahead I'm just here waking people up.. I love you as well this is out of love but you need to wake up BUD ❤