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Rupert Spira talks about this all the time, but it really can't be overemphasized: in being aware of being aware, it is important to relax the attention. Normally, our attention is always moving outward toward externals including thoughts and feelings. Well, one of the major keys in being aware of being aware is allowing that attention to rest rather than moving outward towards objects. Allow your attention to sink inwards and rest within itself. When your attention is fully at rest, it becomes quite easy to be aware of being aware. I should also mention, don't expect the peace or bliss of your true nature to be experienced immediately. It takes time to emerge. Because of this, people tend to get discouraged and mistakenly believe that they aren't being aware of being aware properly. In reality, they are probably doing it correctly but are simply losing patience with the process before the bliss has been given a chance to reveal itself. The peace emerges gradually over time. Patience is required here. I wish you all luck in being aware of being aware. Though, if you can allow your attention to relax, you won't need any luck at all. Peace, and much love to you all.

Take from the Hindu concept of "Lila", that creation (all creation) is a divine play of the Supreme. "The world is a mere spontaneous creation of Brahman. It is a Lila, or playful sport, of Brahman. It is created out of Bliss, by Bliss and for Bliss. Lila indicates a spontaneous sportive,playful activity of Brahman, which is distinguished from a self-conscious volitional effort. The concept of Lila signifies freedom of creation, distinguished from creating from necessity. A playful, aimless display which precipitates pain ,as well as joy, but in its bliss transcends them both.

Going by the Buddhist framework: Piti is another name for kundalini energy. Caused by concentration and mindfulness, it is a feeling of pleasant exhilaration, and it is the proximate cause of bliss/sukkha/happiness. Kundalini awakening is another name for The Arising and Passing Away (caused by penetrating the object of meditation and separating it into its components, which are separated into their components, and so on down to pure impermanence-information-flux), the experience and layer of mind that is the home of the second Jhana.

As Rupert Spira has said, it's actually easier than breathing. It's so obvious and in our face that we overlook it. I don't want to be preachy but I'll just share two instructions that may help you: 1. Relax the attention. 2. Notice the fact that you are experiencing anything at all. If you follow these two steps, and wait patiently for the bliss to emerge, you won't be disappointed.

@Nahm On a subjective level: I am talking about the perceiver that is trapped in this Body/life. Ego is the thing that distorts reality, making things up, drawing conclusion, having beliefs, judging, filtering reality in a way that's useful for survival, avoiding pain, and seeking pleasure. Those awakenings are not there NOW, but occur once in a while before they dissapear. Right now reality is thinner than compared to other days, but not even close to a full or even partial awakening. Right Now, I'm trying a little bit to get somewhere I am not. Which I know is futile, but trying not to try is harder than trying ^^ I try to accomplish an end to suffering and starting 60 years of bliss. I'm trying to avoid the suffering of daily life (and the mind). I don't know if that is going to lead me somewhere, but that's just where I am at right now. What can I do? I'm lost and trapped into this spiritual vicious circle.

So this has been on my mind for several months now. Why do we avoid suffering? After a bit of thinking it's clear to me that pleasure and pain are just feelings we give meaning to. Same with bliss and suffering. Even after seeing this, why it is that I still want to avoid suffering and attract bliss most of the time. I don't resist my mental suffering anymore, i try my best to not get attached to any pleasure or bliss. But I still fear my death (maybe that'll be the case until an actual ego death). I fear feeling large amounts of pain. What is this? Can't I be cautious without feeling fear. But if i dont fear pain, what will be my reason to be cautious? I know hating pain and suffering is for us to survive, however, how does one go beyond survival? Maybe asking to go beyond survival is asking to eradicate the fear of death. I just noticed that when I ask to go beyond survival, I am hoping to survive after i go beyond it. Lol. What to do?

Would you call that the bliss of ignorance? Surely some devotion to curiosity is necessary for enlightenment?

I tend to think everybody has ambition - acctually something more basic than that, the ambition producing facility in you, just like we have emotions, body parts, toughts e.c.t. "Lack of intrinsic motivation" or i don't care is more like a clogged up pipe or a closed chakra, if it is directed it is bound to find it's expression and he shows intelligence to attempt to solve this problem by the same mechanism. He has enough ambition to find the problem for his lack of ambition - so therefore I mean he absolutely has amibiton. He is in the beginning of the journey where you are crossing multiple laps. It is after all exponential-like growth in self-dev. From 30 minutes of visualiation to intense years of action towards big projects. The actual problem of the clogged pipe - and this is just the case with most of us - it is clogged by our dietary choices, mindset, lack of exercise, media, instant pleasures e.c.t., so that muse never finds expression, but the mechanism is there and it's in fact working to some degree. You described it pretty well in your - getting in touch with your higher self video. That is literally a starter for directed desire, where ambition shows. I am very suprised that you are not saying the following things: Visioning is the cure for lack of ambition; Self-development is the cure for lack of ambition; Meditation and spirituality is the cure for lack of ambition; Taking yourself less seriously, detaching from outcome, mastery, hero's journey, more emotionally motivating concepts are the solution for this problem; Stopping dabbling, taking decisions e.c.t. are cures for lack of ambition; Sure we are dealing with a complex problem here, however, there are steps to infuse that instrinsic motivation which is synonymous with ambition; I guess you have forgotten about the value you keep providing. And people HAVE IT just like they have arms and legs, just like some people have never in their life experienced bliss, because they havent awakened these faculties. But it is there, even if its malfunctioning in a form of regret, dissatisfaction e.c.t., that is a projection of unused ambition units, which is what this post is about.

I have to disagree, there IS cure for lack of ambition. And there are MULTIPLE. 1) Enabling your well being so you feel better during the day (reduces the need of instant gradification needs); 2) Directing your desires and efforts to a larger project, for life purpose, hobby, responsibility e.c.t., larger vision than you basically; 3) purnattva based spirituality; Ambition shows when you feel like you are wasting your life, when you feel you could have been doing something more productive and you are doing something boring - 9to5, too many instant gratification e.c.t; Acctually @Godhead has ambition. Why? Because this post exists. He is somewhat troubled by this and is in fact looking for something different. I would suggest that @Godhead would try to decide something to do (as Leo's life purpose course suggests) and do something, develop a taste for intensity, activity, problem solving, creativity and explore the rewards, process, feeling or bliss of that and appreciate the pletau's and struggles and the bittersweetness of the process of directed action by directed desire. There seems to be a problem that limits intrinsic motivation, but it is there as a working mechanism in everybody; What I mean in short is - hobbying, career, relationships e.c.t. - journaling, finding out what long term activities fits your skillset e,c,t, and put effort into that, at least try for a year; I don't think things like boredom is the same as lack of ambition - lack of ambition is more like a form of self-denial where you don't think you are good enough to even try and enjoy something in a really shady and sneaky way. That's my two cents, suggesting LP course here.

What will happen if someone went mediating for a whole month without moving a muscle, no drinking water, no eating, no urinating? Wil he be even able to do it? Will he die in his bliss or will his needs be satisfied through meditation? I once saw a bbc video for a kid who was essentially mediating 24/7 for days and days, but maybe he is a genetic freak.

@meow_meow I think I've experienced similar things like this during meditations. I do them daily since ~ 4 months now, and I did the strong determination sitting technique (30 minutes a day) for some time. I had physical sensations that were almost painful, not located, just painful in my mind. And such a strong urge to stop meditating, or to distract myself. I had thoughts upcoming like "this meditation is already really deep, so you can stop now", "you've been meditating so long now, its ok if you end it early today", "you're doing it wrong, it shouldn't feel bad / painful in some way". These sensations were pretty intense and unpleasent, Idk if I would call them torture, but they defenitly were on a good way. It was difficult to just watch these sensations just like the other ones (itches, which are unpleasant at first but I get uset to them very fast, or muscle pain during the sittings). But a few times i managed to do so, and 1 time I think I overcame them during the sitting. They somehow stopped and I felt like meditating at the next step, felt a bit of peacefullness and bliss, but not that intense. If you can endure these sensations one day, I recommend you to try just accept them. Do not resist them. It's hard, but once you've done so successfully, the sensations change in a way. Like they are still there, but they are somehow... different. And better. Idk how to describe, but not resisting to them will help you, but I'm sure you already know that. Good luck!

I would say they are distinct techniques; both bring you to the same destination ultimately. The two methods that have worked for me are: (1) Being aware of being aware, and (2) Allowing everything to be as it is. Being aware of being aware may be the easiest to do, if you can recognize the experience of being aware (some people struggle with it--I certainly did for a long time). The alternative is to allow everything to be as it is, also known as 'surrender'. It may just be my imagination, but I seem to experience more bliss when I am aware of being aware, whereas allowing everything to be as it is is felt more as peace. But no, I wouldn't say there is anything 'better' than letting everything be as it is. All these different methods bring you to the peace of your true nature. Just go with whatever you feel drawn to.

About the inner journey and meditation part don't worry, if you keep nourishing it consistently it will make you pick and drop many mindsets and not very long for a tangible place for truth, bliss and joy will be here for you. Even if the rest of the endevours fail, in my experience, this does not fail if you just keep meditating and growing. This is more rewarding than any other endevour also. It is almost like to be sought by design, it is so good. And so much more accesible too for you, won't even have to go anywhere or do anything to feel it.

@Gesundheit It's been interesting. I was spiritual at a young age, and into adulthood. Then, as a trained scientist, I refused any idea that wasn't empirically grounded. I took the red pill, and preferred stark materialism to illusory bliss. Now, I find myself a spiritual scientist. It makes me laugh. I insist on integrity, but that same integrity requires me to open my mind, even to the point of moving beyond it. I accept the reality of my direct experience, which I can only call spiritual. I still care deeply about truth, but I realize that spiritual truth is the only truth that is unassailable. Ultimately, truth and wisdom converge into the same singularity. If you have experienced truth directly, you know what I am talking about. The mind has no choice but to challenge it, because it is biologically and environmentally conditioned to do so. It is a stunning realization when you directly understand that you are not your mind. Suddenly, you see that the holy grail of freedom, peace, and love was inside of you the whole time. Consciousness becomes more than an abstract concept. It is this volcano of living lava that used to be dormant, but is erupting inside of you. It takes courage and focused intent to burn away the karma, but it is infinitely better than being trapped in the hell of your conditioned mind.

Unlike psych's which are pretty much instantaneous, persistent abidance over time is what yields lasting results. Also understand that unless sufficient time has been given to a meditative practice that stabilizes attention, formless abidance will be difficult. The mind or attention is so used to contacting/attaching to form(thoughts,objects,perceptions,sensations etc.,) that without some previous practice that stabilizes attention,the abidance will be difficult.Maybe only a few seconds at first. But with persistence, the duration increases until one day,it's done. Attention will no longer go out to meet or attach to form. Peace, bliss, love, happiness etc,emerge as abidance stabilizes. The advice is to inquire,then just sit and be. There's nothing else to do. Just be. That's it.

@Guru Fat Bastard Okay. But how do I move from this understanding to a meaningful shift in my experience. I've had experiences of perception shifts that resulted from awareness centering on sensations in the head, until I let go to a point where the entire frame or lens of reality shifted. The insight into formless etc has only ever led to a meaningful change in my experience on LSD, but i want to have that same shift without psychs now. What exactly do I do with this understanding to facilitate actual change in my life. I want the peace, bliss, love, happiness etc that is supposed to come from this recognition.

The highest purpose is discovering what is true beyond superficial appearances. 'Feeling good' could be a motivator, since the masters describe all sorts of bliss, but in the short term, there is the destruction of comfort zones, chaotic confusion and the loss of all familiar identity. Certain movements (New Age, Western religion) are there for people who want to merge some aspects of spirituality whilst keeping the ego alive and well.

It feels like i'm getting closer to a meditation technique that will allow me to breakthrough and lead to a shift in perspective. On the LSD i would always have the experience of the tension in my head releasing, and the tension would localize to the head, and then it would release and the sense of me would shift to a sort of unified field, rather than localized to the head. The technique i've been working on is as follows: I become aware of the sense of me using a few different points... asking who am I, asking who do the thoughts refer to, basically any thought that gets attention pointed back to the sense of me or sense of existence. Then once i am aware of this felt sense... I become aware of the fact that I am aware of the sense of me. I am basically just becoming aware of the sense of me, then I becoming aware of that sense of awareness... and this will just continue until I get in touch with the true self and i get the perspective shift. I'm pretty confident in the technique, but I still have to find a way to keep the chain of being aware of awareness going. I find i get distracted easily and lose touch. The end point of this technique will lead to getting in touch with the feeling awareness that is behind experience. Eventually that sense of just being aware of awareness will be the default, and that shift is what leads to the loss of the conventional sense of self. This is consistent with the teachings of Mooji and Rupert Spira, so i'm pretty sure if I just fine tune this teaching it will lead me to the true SELF. Not sure how to fast track this process so I can open the crown chakra and get the bliss body, and get in touch with emotions again. But it does seem like i'm on the right track.

This is what gets one un-stuck. Seriously. There are about a million things you could do, but if what you are is "stuck," maybe try this: By Kenneth Folk " Forget about the tips and tricks. Forget about the centerpoint. Forget about the 3 characteristics. Forget about whether you think you are concentrated or not. Forget about what you think you know about meditation. Every time you discover the "problem" with your meditation, note your reaction to that thought. Note the thought itself. Note once per second, aloud, for the duration of your sitting. Note catastrophizing, dramatizing, histrionics, self-pity, evaluation thoughts, impatience, despair, self-loathing, joy, triumph, scenario spinning, longing, desire for deliverance, irritation, doubt, bliss, absorption, distraction, fear, anger, rage, disgust, euphoria, hope, contentment, anticipation, softness, hardness, coolness, warmth, pulsing, burning, itching, throbbing, stinging, tingling, hearing, seeing, tasting, smelling, pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, petulance, futility, dullness, fatigue; what have I left out? Of course you would like some kind of a shortcut or a tip. There is no such thing. There is only the mastery of this simple technique. By the time you master this technique, you will be an arahat. If you distract yourself from this technique by trying to tweak the recipe, the warrantee is void. "

Longchen Rabjam Excerpts from Song of the Enchanting Wildwoods Now that I’ve seen the plague of conceptual thinking, I’m off to live in the unborn peace of the wildwoods. The busy cities are bonfires of desire. Every being in existence is threatened by affliction and totally bound by terrifying chains of duality. Since beings prefer to believe that the Buddhas have taught that they should do only what they like, and nothing else, when I teach the real dharma way, everyone reviles me like an enemy. Seeing all this, since I aim to accomplish the benefit of beings, I can’t stay, I won’t stay. I’m going to the wildwoods. If you aren’t also wealthy, everyone just reviles and ignores you. Those practicing the dharma path are as rare as a supernova. Even if you spend this life in introspection, it passes so quickly, without pausing, day or night. Having seen that laziness always gets the better of my virtue and that this mind won’t settle, even a little, I’m off to the wildwoods right now. Even savoring my desires, I never feel content. This mind is addicted to desire. I’m done following the desire highway. Oh dear heart, we can do it; let’s abandon these desires and get to the wildwoods. I’m going to the wildwoods where you, dear mind, will realize lasting happiness. Oh mind, dismiss these preoccupations that are of no help to yourself, and no help to others. Whatever I conceive of is impermanent and meaningless. All the dharma collections, the sage has taught, come down to giving up desires, and settling evenly in the peaceful truth, nothing else. Oh mind, consider your mortality and be intent to go to the wildwoods. Intellectually understanding phenomena’s nature, and leaving them as mere objects of mindfulness, is no help. The wilds naturally entail few distractions and obligations, and are free from the suffering of anxiety and adversity. So today, be happy; go to the peaceful wildwoods, which far surpass the joys of the cities. Among the wish-fulfilling trees, the trees sway, dancing back and forth, back and forth; and the tips of their branches bow, as if lovingly welcoming guests, saying, "We’re glad you’ve come." In the woods, the mind is tame as it conforms to the true dharma, and one can find the bliss of inner peace; in short, the charms of the wildwoods are endless. You will sustain yourself with the bare necessities, such as water, kindling, and fruit; and have the space to apply yourself, day and night, to what is wholesome. There, inspired by the turning of the leaves, you realize with certainty that beauty, health, and various abilities all gradually change, that they lack solidity, what is called the diminishing of one’s assets. There, inspired by the falling of the leaves, you realize with certainty, that friends, strangers, and even your own body, are such that they separate, even if they are together now, for the moment, what is called the reality of loss. What is called the exhaustion of what is amassed. What is called the arrival of the Lord of Death. What is called what is born is bound to die. Reflections of the moonlight in water, what is called empty of true existence. Cultivate concern with needs of beings. Don’t dwell on the past, or fantasize about the future. Don’t engineer this natural, ongoing presence. Don’t direct the mind or draw it within. Just let it settle, without distraction, resting without grasping, or conceptually structuring this clarity that is vivid, quiet, lucid, illuminating. There is nothing you need to contemplate. Cultivate your appreciation of impermanence and death. Conditioned things have no attainable essence, and are rife with problems. Let everything be within the equality of the spiritual dimension of space. Don’t affirm or reject anything. You needn’t think about anything other than the needs of beings. The Lord of Death is drawing ever nearer, and I have no power to send him back, so quickly, quickly, I’m off to meditate in the wildwoods. A real practitioner will have nothing to fear of death. It won’t be long before everyone, everything, and I will be gone; this is certain to come to pass. Fearlessly discover great joy in the face of death. The cause of their joy is exactly life in the wilds. This message, spoken for your benefit, came straight from the heart. Mind, take it, and head to the wildwoods.

WHY all this? why creation? why this dream? why o why? it is all unified. whole. it is one and only. it is oh so lonely. it is awfully quite. still. like the sleep at night, two cannot be, two cannot come, only one, only union can pass thru, only union IS IT. only wholeness is it. God is one. being one and only, and everything/all-things. it is complete and whole. so full of joy and bliss. so total beyond the concept of lack, so overflowing with abundance and glowing with love. it breaks out of that unknown union of the deep-sleep and into this creation of duality. but duality leads to a dance. a dance with itself. a step to the right must be mirrored with a step to the left. a step up leads to a step down. the key to this dance is to dance on and on. into more and more elegant patterns and creations. there are steps which circle and steps that spirals. circles are created and repeated. they rise and fall. swing forward and back. but spirals flow. they simply just go and go. spirals flow because they are balanced. all creation in opposite and harmony, all balanced. eternally dancing and creating it goes on. with the dance of duality reaching towards the one. in creation then, two can share and enjoy which the one alone could not say neither hello or bye. the lover and the loved, united as one, making a little one and this goes on and on why creation? because love as below, so above

Materialism arguably causes more suffering. Atheists as you know believe we are a fluke a random coincidence living in a cold heartless universe, separate from everyone and everything. With our death we end everything forever no more world, no souls, no god. Before spirituality the fear of death was driving me insane. I had a chronic disease and believed i would die forever and envied people who are healthy. Now i'm chill accepting and unafraid, even curious of death and my upcoming dmt experience xDD The separation and loneliness aspect also comes from believing you are truly separate from others. That also caused suffering to me. The bliss i felt in oneness is comparable to the bliss i felt when with a partner. This oneness, is pure peace and love our true nature

Currently in a high state of consciousness/euphoria. A lot of thoughts and delusions, but feeling really, really good. So fuck awareness for now, I will enjoy myself. It's been a long time since I last experienced a high state. I'm postponing all practices until further notice. Let me drown in a convalescent bliss!

There is a higher self, below Brahman, a sort of soul self, made of light. I have experienced that self and flying through colorful tunnels of light as well as that self going in and out of realities in my dreams, after i had a few Obes. You could say in a way those slots are taken and if you aren't fully enlightened( Infinite self state) you can't really access those viewpoints. The infinite self viewpoint, which is also the no self can access any viewpoint it wants i think. However you might forget you were a human, or what you wanted to do. The whole thing is layered and very complicated. I wouldn't call myself fully enlightened or even half, as Leo says it is layed, i have seen and experienced different layers and have answered my most wanted questions. However i have only read the infinite self viewpoint. People describe it as seeing souls and others as being your feet or parts of your body. It is when the illusion of the soul merges with the real self. What i think happens after you die is that you explore a few realms or a lot and decide if you want to reincarnate or stay there forever. I have also experienced my infinite self partially as a black formlessness watching over my soul flying in the tunnel. So the thing is really complicated. All I'm sure of is that death is not the end, not by a long shot. Edit: On a salvia trip i also saw the light self projecting me down here, it was like a huge blob of light connected to me by a cord. At first it was alien it even had eye like appendages. I could never forget that experience. I felt only bliss, when experiencing this, only pure bliss. In none of my other trips had i felt such a bliss. Salvia is probably the craziest drug to exist. You can smoke it and become a conscious table. Really teaches you that everything has a consciousness lol

Yes I think you are right. And imagine what happens when all inner distortions gets cleansed: People at that level always have a powerful energy/aura. Meditate without any thoughts and feel the energy and bliss! If the ego is still alive it will disturb you and resist it